* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] WELL, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. UH, IT IS [Street Committee on April 10, 2025.] NOW SIX O'CLOCK, UH, IT'S NOW SIX O'CLOCK. SO WE'LL GET STARTED WITH THE, UH, QUARTERLY STREET COMMITTEE MEETING. UH, MS. BELINDA, WOULD YOU GIVE US A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? KYLE WADE? I'M HERE. SHELBY THOMAS. PRESENT. MS. ROSS LEVINSTEIN. PRESENT. RANDY JONES. MONICA TREAT. ALRIGHT, SO WE DO, WE DO HAVE THREE. SO WE DO HAVE A, A FORUM TO CONTINUE ON, UH, IN YOUR PACKET THERE, YOU HAVE THE MEETING, THE, UH, MINUTES FROM THE MEETING BACK ON THE 13TH OF FEBRUARY. UH, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING WE NEED TO CORRECT OR ANYTHING, ANYBODY SEE ANYTHING ON THOSE MOVE WE APPROVE? WE GOT A VOTE TO APPROVE SECOND. AND WE GOT A SECOND. SO WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE ON THAT PLEASE. KYLE WADE? YES. SHELBY THOMAS? YES. ROSS LEVINSTEIN? YES. RANDY JONES. MONICA TREE. ALRIGHT, SO THOSE MINUTES WILL BE APPROVED AND PUT IN THE FILES. UH, ALSO BEFORE YOU, WE HAVE THE BUDGET, UM, THE BUDGET THAT I HAVE IN MY PACKAGE FOR JANUARY. I DO THINK WE HAD FEBRUARY'S FINANCIALS, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE MARCH. IT LOOKS LIKE WE DIDN'T GET THE FEBRUARY FINANCIALS IN YOUR PACKET, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S THE ONE Y'ALL REVIEWED LAST TIME. WE DON'T, WE JUST DON'T HAVE MARKERS FINANCIAL AVAILABLE YET. OKAY. YEAH. THESE ARE, I BELIEVE THESE ARE THE ONES WE LOOKED AT. YEAH, THEY'RE RIGHT. UH, THE LAST TIME. OKAY. EVERYBODY'S GETTING USED TO THIS QUARTERLY THING, SO YES. YES. WE'LL GET IT FIGURED OUT. YEAH. ANY, ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD ABOUT THAT, BRIAN, THAT YOU KNOW OF? I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING. OKAY. OF COURSE, I DON'T HAVE ANY ITEMS FOR CONCERN WITH THE BUDGET EITHER. OKAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT, . OKAY. WE'LL MOVE RIGHT ALONG TO OUR PUBLIC WORKS UPDATES. MR. MR. LAWN, DO YOU WANNA START US OUT WITH THAT? PUBLIC WORKS UPDATE SHOULD BE THE SUPERINTENDENT'S REPORT THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET FROM PUBLIC WORKS. IT'S JUST, UH, LIKE WHAT'S GONE PUBLIC, GONE PUBLIC WORKS PAST MONTH. I'LL LOOK AT THAT. IF YOU GOT ANY QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW AND I'LL TRY TO ANSWER THEM. WELL, I IMAGINE YOU COULD ADD IT THIS INTO IT AND PROBABLY ABOUT THREE MORE PAGES, RIGHT, . RIGHT. WE'LL, WELL SPEAKING OF THAT, WE APPRECIATE YOUR WORK. WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF THE CITY VEHICLES OUT AND KNOW THAT Y'ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING TIRELESSLY AND GETTING THINGS UP TO DATE, SO WE DO APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ON THE, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOVING. RIGHT YOU GUYS MAKE SURE YOU, YOU PULL YOUR MICS TOWARDS YOU. OTHERWISE IT'S LIKE ROSS, TURN IT OFF. ALL THESE, ALL THESE NICE NEW TECHNOLOGICAL UPDATES THAT ARE GREAT. UH, OKAY. ON OUR STREET UPDATES. ALRIGHT. UH, YOU WANT ME TO START? YOU CAN START. ALRIGHT. UM, WE OPENED BIDS FOR THE OVERLAY PROGRAM, UH, MARCH 4TH. LOOKS LIKE, UH, WELL, CRANFORD CONSTRUCTION WAS THE LOW BIDDER. WE HAD FOUR BIDDERS. UM, WE GOT REALLY GOOD NUMBERS, ACTUALLY A FEW DOLLARS, A TON LESS THAN LAST YEAR'S BID. UH, EVERYBODY THAT BID IT, UH, THEY KIND OF GAVE KUDOS ON. WE, WE TRIED TO KEEP IT TIGHT, YOU KNOW, WITHIN, WITHIN ONE AREA NOT BOUNCING AROUND SO MUCH TO TRY TO HELP THE NUMBERS TO MAKE OUR DOLLAR GO A LITTLE FURTHER BECAUSE THIS STUFF'S JUST GETTING, IT'S GETTING AWFULLY COSTLY. SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE WERE SUCCESSFUL AND, AND THEN THAT THE NUMBERS WERE ACTUALLY A LITTLE LESS EXPENSIVE. MOST EVERYBODY'S SEEING 'EM DID QUITE A BIT MORE EXPENSES BY, BY KEEPING IT TIGHT. UM, WE WERE ABLE TO ADD A FEW, FEW ROADS 'CAUSE THE NUMBERS CAME IN, UH, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN WHAT WE EXPECTED. UM, WE, WE'VE AWARDED THE CONTRACTOR TO CRANFORD CONSTRUCTION. UH, WE GAVE 'EM A NOTICE TO PROCEED AS OF MARCH 24TH. UM, THEY HAVE TO BE COMPLETED BY NOVEMBER 18TH. THEY HAD 240 DAYS IN YOUR CONTRACT. [00:05:01] Y'ALL HAVE ALSO GOT A LIST OF THE, THE ROADS THAT WE PLAN ON OVERLAYING THIS YEAR. IN YOUR PACKET, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING I'VE JUST SAID, I'D BE GLAD TO TRY TO CLARIFY IT. YOU SAID NOVEMBER 18TH WAS THE TARGET COMPLETION. THE, THE NOVEMBER 18TH IS THEIR COMPLETION DATE. OKAY. THE DATE STARTED MARCH 24TH IS GONNA BE STARTED THEIR TIME OF 240 DAYS. OKAY. WE GIVE THEM AS MUCH TIME AS WE CAN. UH, THE MORE TIME YOU GIVE 'EM, THE BETTER PRICE THEY GIVE. IF THEY CAN KIND OF WORK IT INTO THEIR SCHEDULE AND USE US AS FILL IN WORK. UH, AND, AND MY, MY PRIMARY CONCERN IS USUALLY TO GET 'EM OUT OF HERE BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS START. RIGHT. AND, AND USUALLY WE'VE GOT WARM ENOUGH WEATHER TO PAVE UP TO AROUND THAT TIME TOO. THAT MAKES SENSE. IS IS OBVIOUSLY WEATHER AND ALL THAT'S A FACTOR, BUT IT WAS IT GENERALLY SPEAKING IN THE YEARS PAST, YOU PRETTY WELL GET MOST OF THE PROJECTS COMPLETELY. YOU KNOW, THEY JUST ABOUT ALWAYS PULL IT OFF. GOOD. YOU KNOW, EVERY, THERE'S BEEN A, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD A YEAR WHERE THEY DIDN'T FINISH. GOOD. THAT'S GOOD NEWS. I DON'T RECALL. OKAY. THAT LOOKS GOOD. OKAY. WE WILL MOVE ALONG TO THE, UH, UNDER OLD BUSINESS. DO YOU WANT TO COVER YOUR STRAIGHT UPDATES UNDER STRAIGHT OR? YEAH, IT'S, IT'S GOT A, A BULLET HERE FOR SALES TAX. OH, YOU SURE? OKAY. NEVERMIND. OKAY. ME . NO PROBLEM. ALRIGHT, NO PROBLEM. WELL, SPEAKING OF WHICH, GO RIGHT A HEADLINE AND GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE SALES TAX PROJECT. SPEAKING OF WHICH, OKAY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JACKSONVILLE CAO ROAD, UH, PHASE ONE. IT'S GOING REAL GOOD. UH, BUT THEY TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE SPRING BREAK, I WOULD SAY, AND, UH, WORKED THE DRIVEWAYS OF THE SCHOOL AND DUG THAT OUT AND IMPACTED IT AND REDID IT FOR GRAVEL WHILE, WHILE SCHOOL STILL IN SESSION. UH, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON, UH, GRADING THE MULTI-USE PATH AND PUTTING GRAVEL ON TOP OF IT AND GETTING IT READY. UH, THERE'S SEVERAL SPOTS WHERE IT DIDN'T PASS ROLL TEST AND DIDN'T PASS COMPRESSION, SO THEY HAVEN'T GOT THE GRAVEL IN THOSE SPOTS YET. UH, THEY ARE WORKING ON A BUNCH OF JUNCTION BOXES AND POURING THE WALLS AND THE FLOORS TO THOSE. THAT'S ABOUT IT FOR PHASE ONE. PHASE TWO IS, UH, CARVER'S COMPLETING THE, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL REQUIRED STUDIES. SO WE HAD A PUBLIC, UH, INVOLVEMENT MEETING, WHICH WENT REAL WELL AT THE METHODIST CHURCH THERE IN GRAVEL RIDGE. HAD LOTS OF QUESTIONS. NUMBER ONE IS WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO WITH THE HOUSES THAT ARE THERE? AND, UH, THEY'RE UNDER DEMOLITION RIGHT NOW. WE GOT RID OF ONE TODAY, SO THAT, THAT'S GOING GOOD. UH, THE SECOND MOST WAS THE TIMING OF THE PROJECT, WHICH IS GONNA BE 450 DAYS WHEN WE LET THE CONTRACT, WHICH WILL BE ABOUT LATE AUGUST, SEPTEMBER TIMEFRAME. OKAY. UH, RANDY JONES, WHO'S NOT HERE TONIGHT ALSO SAID THAT FIRST ELECTRIC HAS COMPLETED THEIR PLANS AND FORWARDED THOSE TO, UH, GARVER. SO MOVING RIGHT ALONG WITH ALL THE UTILITY RELOCATES. OKAY. I ACTUALLY, UH, I HAD NOT BEEN OUT THAT WAY IN A WHILE AND DROVE PURPOSELY THAT WAY THIS EVENING BEFORE THE MEETING. AND, UH, LOOK, LOOKS, LOOKS GOOD. IT'S COMING ALONG THE ROAD. YEP. YEP. SO, UH, YOU KNOW, CROSS OUR FINGERS. IT LOOKS LIKE THAT THAT, UH, ANTICIPATED END DATE WILL BE A BE A REALITY ON THAT. GO . WHICH ONES IS SHE NEXT TO? KYLE? YES, SHE'S NEXT TO KYLE NEXT. WE'LL MAKE NOTE THAT MONICA TREE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER AND, AND, UH, MEMBER OF THE STREET COMMITTEE HAS JOINED THE MEETING NOW. THANK YOU. APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE. THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THE SALES TAX PROJECT UPDATES? OKAY. OKAY. RIGHT BACK TO BRIAN. UH, GOT IN YOUR PACKET THERE, THE KIND OF UPDATED, UH, POLICY, UH, OR PROPOSED UPDATE POLICY FOR THE, UH, SPEED CUSHIONING AND TRAFFIC CALMING POLICY. SO YOU WANNA WALK US THROUGH SOME OF THAT? BRIAN? WELL, YOU, YOU'VE ALL GOT, UH, A COPY OF THE SUGGESTED CHANGES IN FRONT OF YOU. UM, YOU KNOW, FIRST OFF, UM, YOU KNOW, AFTER MONITORING SOME OF THESE ROADS, SEEING ONES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE ELIGIBLE, WE KIND OF THINK THAT WE SHOULD MAYBE MOVE MI REMOVE MINOR [00:10:01] ARTERIALS FROM BEING ELIGIBLE FOR SPEED CUSHIONS. MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, THESE ROADS ARE DESIGNED AND, AND INTENDED TO HELP MOVE TRAFFIC AND PUSHING 'EM OFF OF THOSE ROADS JUST TENDS TO MOVE IT TO A MORE RESIDENTIAL FEELING ROAD. MM-HMM . UM, OF COURSE A MINOR, MINOR ARTERIAL ROADS. JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OR, UM, YOU KNOW, JACKSONVILLE CADO IS A MINOR ARTERIAL JACKSONVILLE CUTOFFS OF MINOR ARTERIAL. KELLOGG ACRES IS A MINOR ARTERIAL. BROCKTON KELL AVENUE. UM, MARYLAND'S MINOR ARTERIAL SO IS TRAMMELL AND COUNTRY CLUB. WE'VE, WE'VE ALSO GOT, UH, FINLEY, WHICH, YOU KNOW, HE'S A ROADWAY ENGINEER REVIEWING THIS MINOR OR MASTER STREET PLAN IN ITS ENTIRETY. THAT'LL BE SOMETHING THAT'LL COME. MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, IF, IF HE HAS SUGGESTED EDITS, YOU KNOW, IT'LL COME TO THIS COMMITTEE TO KIND OF, UM, HELP LOOK AT AT WHAT HIS EDITS ARE AND DECIDE IF IT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO MOVE TO. 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, B ROCKETS AND ROADS, A MINOR ARTERIAL, MAYBE IT SHOULD BE A, AN ARTERIAL, UM MM-HMM . BUT BROCKTON'S ALSO CONNECTED BY OAKDALE TO KELLOGG ROAD, WHICH IS A MINOR ARTERIAL MM-HMM . SO MAYBE OAKDALE SHOULD BE A MINOR ARTERIAL MM-HMM . AS WELL. JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST ONE WAY OF LOOKING AT IT. AND, AND THOSE ROADS, I THINK IT WOULD BE BEST TO NOT HAVE SPEED CUSHIONS ON THEM. RIGHT. UM, BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S, THAT'S THE THOUGHT PROCESS, UM, ON REMOVING THE MINOR ARTERIALS FROM BEING ELIGIBLE. OF COURSE THE NEXT LINE, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S JUST KIND OF CLARIFYING THAT THE MINOR ARTERIAL, UM, WOULDN'T BE ELIGIBLE AGAIN. UM, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT EDIT IS, UH, RAISING OR LOWERING THE CAR COUNT TO 3000 CARS A DAY. UM, THAT, THAT MIGHT MAKE A ROAD SUCH AS OAK BROOK NOT ELIGIBLE RIGHT NOW, OAK BROOKS CLASSIFIED AS A COLLECTOR. SO IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE MAY, MAY NOT WANT 'EM ON THAT, ON THAT ROAD. RIGHT. 'CAUSE IT IS A THROUGH FAIR. AND IF YOU, AGAIN, IF, IF YOU START DETERRING 'EM TO SOME OF THE ONES THAT FEEL MORE OF A, A LOCAL RESIDENTIAL ROAD, WE JUST KIND OF MOVE THE PROBLEM. YEAH. CORRECT. RIGHT. I AGREE. THAT'S THE THOUGHT PROCESS BY, YOU KNOW, BEHIND IT. UM, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER EDITS ARE, ARE DOWN HERE AND HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO SIGN THE PETITION AND, AND THEN INCREASING THE DISTANCE OF, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE REQUIRED TO SIGN A PETITION. AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST TRYING TO GET A LITTLE MORE BUY-IN TO WHERE WE, WE DON'T END UP WITH ANOTHER SITUATION LIKE WE HAD ON PATRICIA LYNN, YOU KNOW, JUST REACH A LITTLE FURTHER. AND SO IN THIS ONE IT WOULD TAKE MORE PEOPLE, IT WOULD TAKE, IT WOULD TAKE MORE PEOPLE. THAT'S WHAT I WAS READING. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE INCREASING THE SPAN. YEAH. YOU KNOW, SO YOU WOULD HAVE MORE PEOPLE THAT WAY AND IT WOULD TAKE A LARGER PERCENTAGE. YEAH. YOU KNOW, WE'D BE MOVING FROM 60 TO 70% AND THAT'S THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THAT. AND, AND LIKE I SAID, THESE ARE ALL SUGGESTIONS. WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING FOR INPUT AND CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM AS WELL. UM, AND, AND THEN THE, THE BOTTOM ONE IS JUST TO ALLOW US TO PLACE 'EM IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO A PARK. RIGHT. UM, AND, AND THOSE ROADS SOMETIMES IN FRONT OF A PARK MAY NOT WARRANT SPEED CUSHIONS, UM, UNDER THIS OTHER CRITERIA IF IT RIGHT THERE BY THE PARK, YOU'VE OBVIOUSLY GOT YOU OVER AND PLAYING AND, AND YOU WANT TO, YOU WANT TO KEEP IT SLOW RIGHT THERE. SO THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 'CAUSE I, I MEAN, BEEN OUT HAD LATE PLAYING PICKLE BALL, SOMETIMES PEOPLE WILL TURN THAT, THEY'LL HIT THAT CORNER AND AND GO BUST IT DOWN THE ROAD. SO YES, THEY WILL. AND IT'S YOU I THOUGHT OF THAT WHEN I OUT THERE PLAYING. I'M LIKE, YOU SLOW DOWN. IT MAY NOT HAPPEN OFTEN ENOUGH TO MEET THE THRESHOLD, BUT BY A PARK, YOU REALLY DON'T WANT IT HAPPENING AT ALL. RIGHT. RIGHT. I AGREE. YEAH. YEAH. I, I KNOW WHEN I READ OVER THE, READ OVER THIS IN OUR, IN OUR, UH, ELECTRONIC PACKET SURGERY OR I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT EDIT WISE THAT JUMPED OUT AT ME AS NOT BEING, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING OF A MORE POSITIVE THING WITH SOME OF THE REACTIONS AND SOME OF THE COMMENTS WE RECEIVED BACK SINCE WE, UH, YOU KNOW, INSTALLED THE POLICY. UH, THE ONE QUESTION THAT I, THAT I DID HAVE, AND IT JUST BECAUSE I THINK IT COME UP AND IT, IT MAY HAVE BEEN ON THE EXAMPLE YOU WERE GIVEN, BUT WHEN IT TALKS ABOUT THE 70% OF HOUSEHOLDS OF THE AREA WE ARE WE DIFFERENTIATING BETWEEN OWNERSHIP OR [00:15:01] JUST INHABITANTS OF THE HOMES ON THAT ROAD? IT'S, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THE PERSON THAT LIVES IN THE HOME. OKAY. YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE IT COULD BE A RENT HOUSE OR RIGHT. YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THAT'S HARD FOR US TO, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY PUT A PEN ON. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO ASSUME SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WE CAN LOOK UP THE COUNTY RECORDS AND MAKE OUR BEST ATTEMPT TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RIGHT PERSON SIGNED IT. BUT, UH, MUCH BEYOND THAT, I THINK INCREASING THE THRESHOLD OF WEED, SOME OF THAT OUT, IT, IT SHOULD, I THINK IN THE, IN THE INSTANCE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. RIGHT, RIGHT. WE HAD, IT'S ALL ABOUT JUST TRYING TO GET A LITTLE HEAVIER BUY-IN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ON IT. SO YEAH. IF WE PUT 'EM THERE, THEY, THEY STAY AND THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE ARE HAPPY WITH IT. YEAH. RIGHT. SO AT THIS POINT, BRIAN, WAS THIS JUST STILL JUST FOR OUR DISCUSSION OR ARE YOU WANTING US TO, IF YOU FEEL YOU NEED TO READ IT AND THINK ON IT AND, AND, AND MAKE A DECISION, YOU KNOW, NEXT, UH, QUARTERLY MEETING, THEN YOU KNOW, THAT'S DEFINITELY I'M AT Y'ALL'S DISCRETION. OR IF, IF YOU'RE READY TO, TO TAKE A VOTE ON IT AND SEND IT TO COUNCIL, THEN UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE READY AS WELL. IT'S JUST MM-HMM . WHAT'S, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE PLEASURE, WHAT'S, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS? I GUESS I HAVE ONE QUESTION. UH, WHAT'S THE PRIMARY FACTOR BETWEEN LIKE THE MINOR AND THE PRINCIPAL ARTERIALS? I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT IS THAT THRESHOLD? IS IT CAUGHT VOLUME? I THINK IT'S A LOT OF IT'S BASED ON VOLUME. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF CITIES THAT ARE, UM, BEEN DEVELOPED UNDER A, A LONG RANGE PLAN. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES THEY BASE IT ON WHETHER THEY HAVE DRIVEWAYS, INTER ENTERING ROADWAYS OR NOT. YOU KNOW, IDEALLY I THINK A MINOR ARTERIAL, YOU REALLY WOULDN'T HAVE DRIVEWAYS HITTING THEM. BUT, BUT THE WAY OUR CITY'S BEEN BUILT AND, AND PLANNED OVER THE YEARS, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF ROADS I THINK THAT FUNCTION AS MINOR ARTERIALS THAT DON'T NECESSARILY CHECK ALL THE BOXES. AND, AND IF FINLEY WERE HERE, HE COULD, HE COULD PROBABLY EXPLAIN IT MUCH BETTER THAN I'M TRYING TO EXPLAIN IT, BUT BRIAN, CAN I SURE, SURE. PLEASE. MORE INFORMATION'S BETTER. MM-HMM . SO FIRST OF ALL, FINLEY'S GOT A CHILD WITH FLU, WHICH IS WHY HE'S NOT HERE. ALSO, IT REALLY VARIES FROM TOWN TO TOWN. UM, STREET CLASSIFICATION. SO, YOU KNOW, SHERWOODS LOOK DIFFERENT THAN LIKE A CONWAY LOOK AND SO FORTH. THE OTHER ISSUE IN TERMS OF SHERWOOD IS BECAUSE WE DEVELOPED WITHOUT MUCH IN THE WAY OF PLANNING. SO LIKE, REALLY MINOR ONTARIO'S SHOULD NOT HAVE DRIVEWAYS, UH, COLLECTORS REALLY, YOU KNOW, SHOULD LOOK MORE LIKE GAP CREEK, BUT THAT'S NOT HOW SHERWOOD WAS, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPED MM-HMM . SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO WORK WITHIN CERTAIN PARAMETERS. IT'S GOT ROCKTON ROAD AS A MINOR OR ARTERIAL. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THAT WOULD BE AN ARTERIAL, YOU KNOW, THAT SEEMS SO, THERE'S CLEARLY A LOT OF UPDATING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THAT WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT MARYLAND THAT MARYLAND GOT CLASSIFIED AS A MINOR ARTERIAL AND THAT WAS A PART TO GET THE GRANT THAT WAS FREE ME. SO I DON'T WANNA LONG BEFORE ME, LONG, LONG BEFORE ME. SO I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. SO I DON'T NEED ANYBODY PUTTING SOMETHING ON SOCIAL MEDIA ABOUT THAT. BUT, UH, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE FACT THAT WE'RE GONNA CLASSIFY A MARYLAND IS A MINOR ARTERIAL, AND IT, IT GOES FROM BROCKINGTON TO, UM, 1 0 7, THEN HOW DO YOU NOT CLASSIFY OAKBROOK THAT GOES 1 0 7 TO TE KEEL, WHICH ARE BOTH OFFICIALLY STATE HIGHWAYS AS NOT BEING A MINOR ARTERIAL, RIGHT? MM-HMM . SEE WHAT I MEAN? THERE'S JUST SOME THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT FINLEY WAS ON VACATION AND NOW HE'S GOT A SICK CHILD, SO WE HADN'T HAD CHANCE TO SIT DOWN AND, BUT AT SOME POINT WE REALLY NEED TO KIND OF LOOK AT A SERIOUS, UM, UPDATING OF OUR MM-HMM . OF THE STREET CLASSIFICATIONS, IF THAT HELPS. I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT. AND, UH, IN THE STATE AND, AND SENDING IT ON TO THE COUNCIL TO, TO PICK OVER AND LOOK AT. I MEAN, I THINK THESE ARE GOOD CHANGES, STUFF WE TALKED ABOUT ON THE COUNCIL. RIGHT. INCORPORATING THEM IN. I THINK THESE ARE GOOD CHANGES. YEAH. I CONCUR WITH THAT STATEMENT AS WELL. SO, SO TAKE THAT AS, IS THAT A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THAT MOTION? MOTION? YEAH. OKAY. MS. BELINDA, WOULD YOU GIVE US A ROLL CALL ON THAT PLEASE? HI [00:20:01] WADE. YES. SHELBY THOMAS? YES. ROSS LEVENSTEIN? YES. NAME JONES MONICA TREE. YES. OKAY. WE WILL GET THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR COUNCIL THEN AND ON ALL THAT. OKAY. ANY NEW BUSINESS WE NEED TO DISCUSS? CAN I BRING SOMETHING UP? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. SO AS A NEW PERSON TO THIS, OBVIOUSLY I'M VERY GREEN, SO, UM, I'VE HAD SOME CONCERNS IN MY SUBDIVISION IN MILLERS GLEN. UM, WE'VE GOT SOME LIKE ROAD EROSION THERE THAT MANY PEOPLE HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME ABOUT. SO, UM, I GUESS HOW DO I MOVE FORWARD WITH LIKE TAKING THOSE CONCERNS AND LIKE US TRYING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THEM? I KNOW THAT LIKE THERE'S STILL ONE PORTION THAT'S GONNA BE, UM, OH, I GUESS CLEARED AND SOLD. SO I KNOW THAT THERE'S STILL PLANS TO CONTINUE TO BUILD IN MILLER'S GLEN AS A RESIDENT AND THE RESIDENT'S CONCERNS THAT I'VE HEARD. I UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM. I MEAN, BEING A BUILDER'S WIFE, YOU KNOW, BY THE TIME THAT THEY CLEAR IT AND THEN THEY SELL ALL THE LOTS AND HOMES GET BUILT, WE'RE LOOKING AT LIKE A THREE OR FOUR YEAR PROCESS. SO, UM, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A HOLDOUT BECAUSE THERE IS GONNA BE FUTURE CONSTRUCTION, BUT LIKE ON ONE OF THE MAIN ROADS IN THERE, THERE ARE SOME, SOME PRETTY BIG DIVOTS AND UM, HOW CAN I HELP THEM ADDRESS THAT? WELL, YOU KNOW, RIGHT, RIGHT NOW THERE, THERE'S A RECONSTRUCTION PLAN DRAFTED, YOU KNOW, READY TO BE PRETTY MUCH BID OUT AND NEED LITTLE EDITS NOW AT THIS POINT IN TIME. BUT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET A LITTLE FURTHER ALONG WITH THE, UH, CONSTRUCTION BEFORE WE REBUILD IT. UM, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT IT TO FAIL AGAIN. UM, YOU KNOW, HOW WE KNOW WHEN THAT TIME IS. UH, I GUESS I PROBABLY NEED TO PUSH STEVE DEER A LITTLE, LITTLE HARDER. HE'S, HE'S GETTING REALLY CLOSE. HE DOESN'T HAVE A, A WHOLE LOT OF PHASES LEFT, BUT YOU MAY NOT BE TOO FAR OFF IN THE TWO, MAYBE THREE YEAR MARK, UM, BEFORE HE DOES IT. BUT WE'RE JUST NOW HITTING THE TIME OF YEAR TOO, WHERE WE START DOING PATCHING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 'CAUSE YOU DON'T DO THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WINTER, YOU KNOW, WITH IT. BUT IT WOULD BE FOOLISH FOR US TO SPEND A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY TO FIX IT ALL UP ON IT. THE CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES ARE WHAT ARE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S ALREADY FAILED. IT'S NOT GONNA GET MUCH WORSE THAN FAILED. WELL, WE'LL KEEP IT PASSIBLE. YEAH. WE, WE DON'T WANT IT LIKE TURN AROUND AND HAVE TO REDO IT TO THEN TURN AROUND AND HAVE TO REDO IT. 'CAUSE THAT'S REALLY NOT BEING A GOOD STEWARD OF THE TAXPAYER DOLLAR. SO REALLY WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE DO IS, YOU KNOW, YOU TRY TO PUT IN SOME STOCK GAPS. OF COURSE IN THE WINTERTIME, THAT'S WHEN ALL THE POTHOLES START APPEARING TOWARDS THE END OF THE WINTER WHEN IT STARTS TO WARM UP, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE HIS ICE GETS AND THINGS. THAT'S WHERE YOU START SEEING THE POTHOLES. AND THEN BRIAN AND HIS CREW, YOU KNOW, IN THE SUMMER MONTHS, LATE SPRING, SUMMER, THAT'S WHEN THEY GO AROUND AND THEY DO A LOT OF THE PATCHING AND SO FORTH. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE ASPHALT AND THE HOT MIX AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, YOU WANNA MAKE SURE IT STAYS IN THAT IT'S NOT GONNA, SO I GUESS LIKE A, A HAPPY MEDIUM IS LIKE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE COMPLETELY REDONE UNTIL CONSTRUCTION'S COMPLETE, BUT CORRECT. TO BE FAIR TO THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE NOW, LIKE THERE WILL BE LIKE, I GUESS SOME, WE CAN ADDRESS THE POTHOLES AND SOME OF LIKE, THE BIG MAJOR CONCERNS ABOUT ALL WE CAN DO WITH IT RIGHT NOW IS WHERE THE ASPHALT LEAVES PUT IT BACK. THERE'S, THERE'S NOTHING TO GET A HOLD OF. YOU KNOW, IF YOU START DIGGING, YOU'RE GONNA OPEN UP A CAN OF WORMS THAT YOU CAN'T, YOU, YOU'VE JUST GOTTA REBUILD IT ONCE YOU START DIGGING. UM, BUT WE, WE WILL PUT IN TEMPORARY MEASURES AND STILL THAT UNTIL THAT TIME AND IT'S JUST, YOU'RE AT THE TIME OF YEAR WHEN IT'S, WHEN IT'S REALLY BAD. OKAY. AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS LIKE THAT, JUST SEND BRIAN AN EMAIL, SEND THEM OUR WAY. AND, AND I'LL ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE ENGINEER THAT I HAD DRAFT THE RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT FOR IT, I'M GONNA, I'LL GET HIM TO DRIVE IT WITH ME AND WE'LL KIND OF STUDY. HE, HE TOOK A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION OF WHERE IT HAD FAILED, UM, WHEN WE DREW THE ORIGINAL PLAN. AND, AND I'D LIKE TO KINDA LOOK AT IT FROM A STANDPOINT NOW AS TO HAS IT GROWN OR THE, ARE THE ORIGINAL SPOTS JUST GETTING WORSE? YOU KNOW, IF, IF IT HASN'T GROWN, IF IT'S NOT STILL RUNNING ON US, YOU KNOW, IT, IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE TO, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO FUND IT TO MOVE INTO RECONSTRUCTING PART OF IT, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT BEFORE THE CONSTRUCTION TOTALLY STOPS. BUT IF IT'S STILL, IF IT'S STILL TRAVELING, [00:25:01] YOU COULD GO IN THERE AND RECONSTRUCT AND FIX THE SPOTS THAT YOU SEE AND YOU KNOW, ARE BAD. AND THEN A YEAR DOWN THE ROAD, EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN'S FAILED AND YOU GOTTA BRING THEM BACK IN AND YOU GOTTA UNDO A LARGE PART OF WHAT YOU DID TO FIX THAT. OKAY. UM, BUT, BUT I'LL, I'LL LET HIM, I'LL GET HIM TO TAKE A SECOND LOOK AND GIVE US A LITTLE ADVICE ON IT AS WELL. OKAY. BUT WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA FIX IT. WE'RE AWARE OF IT. LET HIM KNOW THAT. UM, IT'S JUST, UH, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO RUN FROM IT. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT A ONE ONCE AND DONE THING. MM-HMM . OKAY. THANK YOU. I KNOW THE, THE MAYOR TALKED ABOUT IT BEING THE TIME OF YEAR. I JUST ROUGHLY COUNTED, LOOKS LIKE ABOUT 15 ASPHALT REPAIRS Y'ALL DID IN THE PAST 30 DAYS OR SO. MM-HMM . ANYWAY, SO IT'S, AND OF COURSE ALL OF THOSE ARE IN PREPARATION FOR THE OVERLAY PROGRAM. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, THAT'S, IT USUALLY TAKES US TWO OR THREE MONTHS IN THE SUMMER JUST TO TRY TO GET MM-HMM . WHAT'S, WHAT'S FIXING TO BE PAVED, REPAIRED AND INTO CONDITION TO WHERE YOU CAN PAVE IT AND, AND IT LAST. OKAY. THANK YOU. SURE. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? UH, I HAVE ONE THING. UH, IF POSSIBLE, UH, SINCE WE'VE MOVED TO THE QUARTERLY MEETINGS, OUR NEXT MEETING NORMALLY WOULD BE IN JU WELL IT WILL BE IN JULY, BUT IT WOULD BE ON, UH, JULY THE 10TH. UH, I AM UNABLE, UH, I'VE GOT TRAVEL THAT I HAVE TO TAKE THAT PARTICULAR WEEK. WOULD THERE BE ANY ISSUE WITH THE COUNCIL, WITH US MOVING THAT BACK ONE WEEK TO THE 17TH? IS THAT MOVE IT, WOULD THAT BE MOVING OR MOVE IT FORWARD? FORWARD RATHER? YEAH, FORWARD TO THE 17TH. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. AS LONG AS YOU GET A WARRANT. I WON'T, I'LL BE OUTTA TOWN THAT WEEK, BUT AS LONG AS YOU GOT A FORM, WE'RE FINE. DON'T OKAY. YEAH, YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY. YEAH, I'M GOOD. OKAY. JULY 17TH. JULY 17TH. IS THAT OKAY? UH, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT OR NOT, OR JUST IT PROBABLY WASN'T HER. OKAY. JUST A OKAY. WE CAN DO THAT. UH, SHELBY YOU WANNA MAKE THAT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION? YEAH. MOTION TO WE MOVE THE JULY MEETING TO THE 17TH. SECOND. I'VE GOT SECOND. MS. BELINDA, WOULD YOU GIVE US A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? KYLE WADE? YES. SHELBY THOMAS? YES. ROSS LEVINSTEIN? YES. WENDY JONES. MONICA TREE? YES. ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL MOVE THAT ONE AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THE WEBSITE AND, AND THE MEETING LIST GETS UPDATED ON FOR THAT MONTH TO THE 17TH. ALRIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE? A MOTION TO ADJOURN THEN? SO MOVED. SO MOVED. WE DO. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.