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I KNOW. I KNOW. I FIGURED YOU'D FIX IT FOR US ALL. IT IS 6:00. IF I COULD PLEASE HAVE EVERYONE TAKE THEIR SEATS SO THAT WE MAY GET STARTED. ALL RIGHT. IT IS APRIL 28TH, 2025. IT IS 6 P.M.

[Call To Order]

IT'S TIME FOR OUR APRIL CITY COUNCIL MEETING. IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE PASTOR KEITH BRICKLE. HE IS WITH THE SYLVAN HILLS FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH AND HE WILL LEAD US IN PRAYER. LET US PRAY. OUR FATHER, WE COME TONIGHT WITH THANKFUL HEARTS. THANKFUL FOR THE GOVERNMENT THAT YOU GIVE US, TO GIVE US AN ORDERLY SOCIETY TO LIVE IN. AND LORD, THAT INDEED IS A BLESSING.

WE THANK YOU FOR IT. LORD, WE ALSO COME WITH HEAVY HEARTS TONIGHT, AND WE WANT TO LIFT UP THE FAMILY OF DYLAN EBERLE AND JUST PRAY THAT YOU WOULD BE WITH THEM. LORD, THIS HAS BEEN A LOSS TO OUR COMMUNITY, BUT ESPECIALLY IT'S BEEN A LOSS TO THIS FAMILY. AND SO WE LIFT THEM UP AND PRAY THAT YOUR COMFORT WOULD BE THEM WITH THEM, AND YOUR STRENGTH WOULD BE WITH THEM. NOW, LORD, TONIGHT WE ARE THANKFUL FOR THE THOSE WHO SERVE THIS CITY. LORD, FOR EACH OF THESE COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR OUR MAYOR. WE JUST THANK YOU FOR THEM AND THEIR DEDICATION TO THIS CITY, AND WE PRAY THAT YOU WILL BE WITH THEM, ESPECIALLY THIS EVENING. LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY AND THE HARD WORK THAT THEY DO TO GIVE US A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE. LORD, CERTAINLY WE THANK YOU FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS, OUR FIREFIGHTERS, AS THEY LITERALLY PUT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE FOR OUR SAFETY AND FOR OUR PROTECTION. LORD, I THANK YOU FOR THOSE WHO ARE HERE TONIGHT TO GIVE INFORMATION TO SPEAK. AND LORD, WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD BE WITH EACH ONE AS AS THEY SPEAK TONIGHT AS INFORMATION IS GIVEN. BUT LORD, ESPECIALLY WE JUST LIFT UP THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR AND PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GUIDE THEM AS THEY MAKE DECISIONS THIS EVENING. IT'S THE NAME OF JESUS. WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF YOU GUYS WILL PLEASE PULL YOUR MICS CLOSER TOWARDS YOU, SO THAT TONIGHT YOUR VOICES COULD BE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR. ROLL CALL PLEASE. BROOKS. HERE.

WILLIAMS. HERE. BRODERICK. HERE. THOMAS. PRESENT. WADE. MCCULLOUGH. HERE. TOWNSEND.

HERE. TREAT. HERE. I WILL ASK AT THIS TIME IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE OUR TENNIS PRO, GARY JONES.

[4. Proclamation of May as National Tennis Month]

IF YOU ALL COULD KIND OF PLEASE COME UP TO THE FRONT.

YOU KNOW THAT OUTFITS EVERYTHING. I'M SORRY. WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION. WHEREAS THE USDA, ORIGINALLY KNOWN AS UNITED STATES NATIONAL LAWN TENNIS ASSOCIATION, HAS DECLARED THE MONTH OF MAY AS NATIONAL TENNIS MONTH. AND WHEREAS, IN COLLABORATION WITH THE USDA, THE CITY OF TRUTH WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE SPORT OF TENNIS AND ITS BENEFITS TO HELP PLAYERS AND NON ALIKE. FIND COURTS OF OPPORTUNITIES IN THEIR COMMUNITIES. AND NOW, THEREFORE, I, MARY JO, COUNCIL, MAYOR OF SHERWOOD, ARKANSAS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 2025 AS NATIONAL TENNIS MONTH AND ENCOURAGE THE CITIZENS TO GO OUT AND ENJOY THE SPORT OF TENNIS DURING THE MONTH OF MAY. I TAMMY TUCKER I'M THE PRESIDENT OF USTA ARKANSAS. GARY JONES IS ONE OF OUR TENNIS PROS AND ALSO OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS. AND DEANNA GARRETSON IS OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. AND ALONG

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WITH OUR OTHER PLAYERS FROM AROUND THE TOWN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, FOR LETTING US AND RECOGNIZING MAY AS NATIONAL TENNIS MONTH. TENNIS IS ACTUALLY BEEN STUDIED AND IT'S THE HEALTHIEST SPORT TO PLAY, AND IT'S A SPORT OF A LIFETIME. I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE ANYBODY, IF YOU HAVEN'T EVER HAD A CHANCE TO GO OUT AND PLAY. GET OUT AND PLAY SOME TENNIS. AND I WAS AT SHERWOOD THE OTHER NIGHT AND I HAD BEEN THERE YET. IT'S A GREAT TENNIS FACILITY. GET OUT AND PLAY SOME TENNIS. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY.

WE HAVE SOME TENNIS COOKIES WE'RE GOING TO GIVE TO THE CITY COUNCIL. AND THEY HAVE A FEW MORE OVER HERE. ALSO, I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT I'VE BEEN GONE FOR LIKE 25 YEARS, BUT I ACTUALLY AM FROM SHERWOOD. I LEARNED TO PLAY TENNIS AT THE REC CENTER UNDER RON DURAN, AND I WENT TO SYLVAN HILLS, SO I'M GLAD TO BE BACK. IT'S AWESOME. YES. YEAH. GARY? GARY. HI, GARY.

TELL EM I TAUGHT YOU EVERYTHING YOU KNEW. GARY AND I PLAYED ON THE HIGH SCHOOL TENNIS TEAM TOGETHER. YES. WE DID. YEAH. SHE AND MARINA PLAYED BAREFOOT. I DID. SHE DIDN'T LIKE SHOES.

COUNTRY GIRL. YEAH. THAT WAY THEY. CAN YOU PASS THEM AROUND? OKAY. I WILL PASS THEM DOWN. I'M GOING TO TAKE ONE AND KEEP. I'LL PUT ONE ON. OKAY. WELL, I THINK IT'LL BE STALE BY THE TIME IT'S DONE. WELL THAT'S TRUE. IS THAT. I GOT ON HIS PLATE. WE GAVE HIM ONE. ONE. DID YOU GET ONE FOR MARY JACKSON? OH, NO. I DON'T GET ONE. ARE THERE ENOUGH FOR THE. THAT'S YOURS. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. STEVE. JUST ONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OH. HERE. PASS IT BACK. I MEAN, MONICA CAN'T EAT ONE. NO. YES. ALL RIGHT. STEVE, YOU'RE GETTING A LOT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OH, WE THOUGHT YOU WE DIDN'T HAVE. WE WERE GETTING BACK TO KYLE. ALRIGHT, WE NEED TO REFOCUS. NO.

[5. Approval of the minutes of the regular called meeting on March 24, 2025, as transcribed.]

ALRIGHT. NEXT UP, WE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR CALLED MEETING ON MARCH 24TH, 2025 AS TRANSCRIBED. SO MOVED. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCIL MEMBER BROOKS AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BRODERICK. ROLL CALL. PLEASE TREAT. I'M SORRY, I WAS GAPPING HERE. YES, I, I. WADE BRODERICK, I TOWNSEND, I. MCCULLOUGH. ABSTAIN. BROOKS. I.

[6. March 2025 Financials]

WILLIAMS. I. THOMAS. I. YOU RECEIVED THE MARCH 2025 FINANCIALS. ANY QUESTIONS? ACTUALLY, I DO HAVE ONE. I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THERE, COLLEEN, AND I WAS GOING TO CALL YOU, AND I DID NOT GET A CHANCE TODAY. I'M SORRY, I APOLOGIZE. I DID NOT SEE ANY AMP FINANCIALS IN THERE. SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO SEND OUT AMP FINANCIALS. BUT BECAUSE AMP WAS A COMMISSION, THEY'RE GETTING SENT EVERY MONTH TO ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS TO BE INCLUDED. BUT WE'RE YOU KNOW OKAY BECAUSE I HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY IN QUITE A WHILE. SO I THINK I JUST SENT SOME OUT FOR MARCH SO I DIDN'T GET ANY. OKAY. WELL, I'LL FORWARD YOU THE EMAIL. THANK YOU. SURE. YOU ALL WERE

[Addtional Item ]

EMAILED TODAY AND IN FRONT OF YOU. YOU ALL HAVE A RESOLUTION THAT WAS NOT ON THE AGENDA. IN ORDER FOR IT TO GO ON THE AGENDA, I WOULD NEED A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE CONSIDERED. MOTION. SUSPEND THE RULES. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCCULLOUGH AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOWNSEND. ROLL CALL, PLEASE TO SUSPEND THE RULES. TREAT I, WADE BRODERICK, I TOWNSEND I MCCULLOUGH I BROOKS I WILLIAMS I THOMAS I. WOULD YOU A RESOLUTION EXPRESSING THE WILLINGNESS OF THE CITY OF SHERWOOD ARKANSAS TO UTILIZE FEDERAL AID TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES PROGRAM OR RECREATIONAL TRAILS PROGRAM FUNDS. AND IF I COULD HAVE FINLEY COME UP AT THIS TIME. SO THE REASON THAT THIS IS BEING

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EXPEDITED IS BECAUSE OF THE DEADLINE THAT IS QUICKLY APPROACHING. THIS IS FOR THE HINSON. WHAT WOULD BE BIKE PED TRAIL? WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS? YES, I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY ON THE ON THE OLD BIKE PED MASTER PLAN IS THE WOODRUFF TRAIL. OH, REALLY? I THINK SO.

YEAH. I DISCOVERED THAT A FEW HOURS AGO WHEN I WAS GATHERING MY APPENDICES FOR THE GRANT SO WE CAN CALL THE HINSON TRAIL. BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW IF YOU SEE DOCUMENTATION, I'LL PROBABLY CALL IT THE WOODRUFF TRAIL. JUST SO IT'S CONSISTENT WITH WITH PRIOR LANGUAGE. THE THERE'S A STATE OF OR THE ARDOT IS ONCE A YEAR DOES A CALL FOR PROJECTS FOR THE TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES PROGRAM AND THE RECREATIONAL TRAILS PROGRAM. THE MAXIMUM AWARD IS $500,000, WHICH IS ABOUT THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF MONEY TO DESIGN AN IMPROVEMENT TO THE EXISTING TRAIL SYSTEM.

SEVERAL CULVERTS. THEY'RE GOING TO BE RELATIVELY EXPENSIVE TO WIDEN THIS. ESSENTIALLY, THIS SECTION OF TRAIL WILL BECOME, IF WIDENED. THAT'S THE THAT'S THE PERFECT ROUTE FOR THE CENTRAL ARKANSAS REGIONAL GREENWAY LEADING FROM THE NORTH TO, YOU KNOW, TO JACKSONVILLE, TO THE SOUTH TO LITTLE ROCK. BUT IT NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED AND WIDENED TO 12 TO 14FT WIDE IN ORDER FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. SO THIS IS A GREAT LOCATION FOR IT. IT'S EASY BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY AN EXISTING TRAIL THERE, BUT SOME OF THE ENGINEERING IS A LITTLE BIT TRICKY. SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPLY FOR THE ENGINEERING OF THAT IMPROVEMENT FOR THE EXISTING TRAIL. AND JUST TO I'LL LET LET YOU ALL KNOW, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE CERTAINLY OF GETTING THIS GRANT TAP GRANTS ARE VERY COMPETITIVE. IF WE DO NOT GET THIS THERE'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY IN JUNE AS. YEAH, I DON'T KNOW I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT ORDER. BUT CERTAINLY THERE WILL BE ANOTHER CALL FOR PROJECTS THAT METRO PANEL WILL RELEASE SOMETIME THIS SUMMER. BUT THIS IS A PROJECT THAT CERTAINLY WAS IDENTIFIED.

THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL GEM IN OUR CITY, BUT IT HAS FALLEN INTO. BAD DISREPAIR. I KNOW WE'VE GOT TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO REALLY LIKE TO FREQUENT IT AND BUT IT NEEDS TO BE DONE RIGHT SO THAT IT WILL BE LASTING AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE A SPECIAL PLACE IN OUR CITY. YES. THANK YOU.

MAYOR, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. YOU SAID 14FT WIDE FOR THAT TRAIL. THAT'S THE RECOMMENDED WIDTH FOR THE CENTRAL ARKANSAS REGIONAL GREENWAY. AND MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO COMMIT TO THAT. OKAY. AS SOMEONE WHO WALKS THAT TRAIL, A GREAT DEAL WITH MISS BROOKS BECAUSE IT RUNS BESIDE THE CREEK. YES, THERE'S IN SEVERAL PLACES. THERE'S NOT 14FT OF WIDTH WITHOUT DEMOLISHING THE CREEK. AND THAT'S NOT THE INTENT, I KNOW. CORRECT. THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME SECTIONS WHERE THERE MIGHT BE EITHER RETAINING WALL OR PERHAPS EVEN BOARDWALK, WHERE THE TRAIL WOULD KIND OF CANTILEVER OVER THE CREEK. THERE'S A SECTION OF THE CENTRAL ARKANSAS REGIONAL GREENWAY THAT DOES THAT. I THINK IT'S ROGERS ISH, I CAN'T REMEMBER, I'VE RIDDEN IT, IT CAN BE DONE. BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THIS IS PROBABLY THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE TO GET THROUGH THIS SECTION OF SHERWOOD. BUT THERE ARE SOME ENGINEERING CHALLENGES THAT I THINK COULD BE OVERCOME. AND AS IS THE ON THOSE KIND OF TRAILS, IS IT NORMALLY CONCRETE OR ASPHALT? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S MOSTLY ASPHALT WHICH IS BUCKLING UNDER THE WATER. RIGHT. WELL, GENERALLY A RECREATIONAL TRAIL LIKE THAT LIKE THIS IS ASPHALT. ALTHOUGH IF THERE ARE SECTIONS WHERE IT WOULD REPEATEDLY FLOOD, THEN THE RECOMMENDATION PROBABLY OF THE DESIGNERS WOULD BE TO MAKE IT CONCRETE. SO IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE ELEVATION. THERE ARE SECTIONS, SOME SECTIONS COULD BE HIGH ENOUGH THAT THEY COULD BE CONCRETE. I MEAN ASPHALT, BUT CERTAINLY CONCRETE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IN SOME SECTIONS AS WELL. AND PART OF DOING THIS AND DOING THIS THROUGH ENGINEERING AND SO FORTH IS BECAUSE IN PLACES IT'S TOO CLOSE TO THE CREEK WHERE IT'S CONSTANTLY BEING UNDERMINED AND SO FORTH. SO THAT THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE NEED PROPER ENGINEERING DONE. AND FOR THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT DON'T, THAT DON'T WALK THE TRAIL OR EVEN RESIDENTS, IT'S A GEM. I MEAN, IT'S 2.4 MILES, BUT IF YOU DO THE WHOLE THING AND IT'S A GREAT LITTLE LEISURELY WALK OR YOU CAN RUN IT OR BIKE IT. I JUST FINISHED WALKING IT.

IT'S GOOD FOR YOU. WHAT WOULD THE CITY'S FINANCIAL COMMITMENT BE FOR THIS 100,125. SO THE MAXIMUM AWARD IS 500,000, OF COURSE. SO IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH IS AWARDED AND HOW MUCH THE CITY COMMITS TO. SO ANYTHING OVER 625 I'M SORRY, ANYTHING OVER 500,000. THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO MATCH EVERY ADDITIONAL DOLLAR SO THAT THE PERFECT AMOUNT FOR AN AWARD IS $500,000

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AWARD, WHICH WOULD LEAVE THE CITY WITH $125,000. BUT ESSENTIALLY THE MINIMUM MATCH IS 20%. THE MAXIMUM AWARD IS 500,000. SO $0.20 ON A ON A DOLLAR IS A PRETTY GOOD PRETTY GOOD DEAL HUNDRED AND $25,000. AND IF AWARDED, WE WOULD CERTAINLY HAVE TO THEN COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL TO, TO ASK FOR THE MONEY AND THE MONEY AND SO FORTH. SO THIS IS JUST TO APPLY, RIGHT? I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION. I KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO ANYWHERE TO ALL THIS STUFF THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. BUT I DID WAS APPROACHED AT THE SENIOR CITIZEN HEALTH FAIR THE OTHER DAY BY A SENIOR WHO ASKED ME ABOUT THIS VERY TRAIL, AND HE WAS HE RIDES IT A LOT AND HE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT RAILING. HAVE YOU LOOKED AT RAILING ON ANY PART OF THIS TRAIL? I ACTUALLY HAVE SOME RAILING IN THE COST ESTIMATE. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY. I DON I DON'T HAVE A DETAILED DESIGN, SO I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE RAILING WOULD NEED TO BE. BUT PRESUMABLY LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, IN THE SECTIONS THAT WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING THAT MAYBE WOULD NEED TO BE BOARDWALKS, SO THERE WOULD BE A DROP OFF, ANYTHING LIKE THAT WOULD NEED. OKAY. THANK YOU. PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL MOVE FOR ADOPTION. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BROOKS AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. ROLL CALL. PLEASE TREAT. I, WADE BRODERICK, I TOWNSEND, I MCCULLOUGH, I BROOKS I WILLIAMS I THOMAS I THE MOTION PASSES SEVEN YES ONE ABSENT. ALL RIGHT

[7. Committees/Commissions]

NEXT UP WE HAVE A STREET COMMITTEE. AND THIS WAS BEING BEING SPONSORED BY OUR COUNCIL MEMBER RAY. BUT I CAN CERTAINLY SPEAK TO IT AS CAN BRIAN. SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 2460 REGARDING THE SPEED CUSHION TRAFFIC CALMING POLICY FOR THE CITY OF SHERWOOD, ARKANSAS, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. FIRST READING. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL SAW THE STREET COMMITTEE MEETING WHERE WE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, TALKED ABOUT THIS, BUT CERTAINLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IF IT'S A MINOR ARTERIAL, IT CANNOT BE INCLUDED ON IT. IF WE ALSO EXPANDED. THE JURISDICTIONS IN WHICH TO GET SIGNATURES SO THAT IT'S YOU HAVE A WIDER AREA FOR MORE PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO GIVE INPUT THAT IT COULD POTENTIALLY AFFECT ON A MORE DAILY BASIS, AND WE INCREASED THE PERCENTAGE OF SIGNATURES NEEDED. YES, MA'AM. ON THE SIXTH BULLET, WAS IT INTENTIONALLY TO KEEP MINOR ARTERIAL BECAUSE MINOR ARTERIAL WAS REDACTED THROUGHOUT THE THING, EXCEPT ON THAT SIXTH BULLET, THAT LAST SENTENCE MINOR NEEDS NEEDS TO BE I'VE GOT THAT MARKED OKAY. IT NEEDS REDACTED ALSO AS WELL. THANK YOU. YOU'RE RIGHT. ON THE SIXTH BULLET. YEAH, I GOT A CALL FROM A RESIDENT. AND HER. HER CONCERN WAS ABOUT IT BEING IT NEEDS TO BE THE PROPERTY OWNER, NOT JUST THE PERSON WHO RESIDES THERE. AND I THINK THAT SHE. SHE LET ME KNOW THAT SHE TALKED TO COUNCIL MEMBER WADE, AND I THINK HE WAS GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH HER ON THAT. BUT I THINK THAT COUNCIL MEMBER HARMON, I THINK THAT THAT WAS A KEY POINT THAT HE MADE BEFORE. AND I CAN SEE THE POINT. I MEAN, IF YOU'RE THE PROPERTY OWNER, YOU SHOULD HAVE THE DECISION MAKING SINCE THAT'S YOUR ASSET, NOT A TRANSIENT PERSON WHO'S, YOU KNOW, PASSING THROUGH, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, THE THOUGHT PROCESS THAT, THAT I HAD MAYOR HAD, YOU KNOW, WHEN THIS WAS DEVELOPED IS, IS YOU NEEDED THE INPUT FROM THE PERSON THAT ACTUALLY LIVED THERE. YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PROBABLY THE ONES THAT HAVE THE KIDS THAT PLAY IN THE YARD. THEY THEY'RE THE ONES THAT PROBABLY WALK THE ROAD. YOU KNOW, IN A LOT OF CASES, YOU MIGHT HAVE A PROPERTY OWNER THAT LIVES IN FLORIDA AND CALIFORNIA, MAYBE. REALLY, YOU KNOW, THEY THEY COULD REALLY CARE LESS, BUT THEY MIGHT. THE PERSON THAT THAT ACTUALLY LIVES THERE IS THE ONE THAT THAT I FEEL SHOULD HAVE THE INPUT. BUT OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SHE INDICATED THAT KYLE WAS GOING TO WORK ON THAT SOME MORE. AND SO HOPEFULLY THEY WERE GOING TO TALK SOME MORE, I THINK IS WHAT SHE WHAT SHE INDICATED TO ME. WE DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING FROM COUNCIL MEMBER WADE IN TERMS OF ASKING FOR ANY ALTERATIONS OR CHANGES. WAS SHE JUST CALLED ME OVER THE WEEKEND.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHEN SHE CALLED HIM, BUT AND ALSO IT'S SOMETIMES IT CAN

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BE DIFFICULT FOR US TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, EXACTLY WHO THE TOP PROPERTY OWNER, THE ONE THAT SHOULD BE ON THE DEED. RIGHT. WELL, IT COULD BE AN LLC, BUT, YOU KNOW, AND IN ONE INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE PROPERTY OWNER SIGN FOR THEIR DAUGHTER. AND THEN THERE WAS SOME BACK AND FORTH. MAYBE THE DAUGHTER DIDN'T WANT THE MOTHER TO SIGN IT. AND I DON'T KNOW, I JUST I REALLY MY PERSONAL OPINION IS, IS I THINK THE PERSON THAT LIVES THERE SHOULD HAVE THE INPUT. BUT THE TO THERE DOES NEED TO BE CLARIFICATION ON WHO THE RESIDENT IS. DOES THAT MEAN THAT PERSON'S NAME HAS TO BE ON THE LEASE? OR CAN A GIRLFRIEND OR BOYFRIEND WHO JUST KIND OF, I MEAN, CAN THEY DO IT? WHAT IS THE RESIDUE? I DON'T KNOW THAT WE GET THAT DEEP INTO IT. YOU KNOW, WE'VE WE'VE GOT A PETITION THAT WE GIVE THE, YOU KNOW, THE PERSON THAT'S MADE THE REQUEST TO CIRCULATE AND, AND ABOUT THE BEST WE CAN DO IS, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT TO PUT THEIR PHONE NUMBER AND INFORMATION, EMAIL ADDRESS ON THERE. YOU KNOW, WE CAN KIND OF RUN THE TRAPS FROM THAT ANGLE. AND WE CAN LOOK AT WHO'S ON THE DEED. MOST OF THE TIME IT'S GOING TO BE THE PROPERTY OWNER. BUT SOMETIMES WE JUST HAVE TO TAKE THEIR WORD FOR THAT. IT'S I CAN SEE THAT BEING A STICKY POINT. I MEAN, PINEWOOD WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE. YOU KNOW, IF THEY SAY, WELL, SO-AND-SO DOESN'T LIVE THERE OR THAT'S A NEW, A NEW, YOU KNOW, OR THAT'S A, THAT'S A SISTER THAT'S ONLY BEEN THERE FOR TWO MONTHS. AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE HOME OWNERS, THAT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM, I THINK. WELL, THE SITUATION ON PINEWOOD WAS THE HOMEOWNER'S DAUGHTER LIVED IN THE HOUSE AND THE HOMEOWNER'S DAUGHTER CALLED THE MOTHER. AND THE MOTHER SAID, YES AND SIGNED. THAT'S THAT'S WHERE THAT GOT TO. IT WASN'T LIKE A BIG. BUT WE HAVE INCREASED THE STANDARDS SUBSTANTIALLY. AND WE HAVE YET TO HAVE ANOTHER PROPERTY QUALIFY FOR IT. BUT AT THE VERY LEAST WE NEED TO DEFINE WHAT IS A RESIDENT, YOU KNOW, CAN IT BE A BOYFRIEND GIRLFRIEND. CAN IT BE A SIBLING? CAN IT BE A COLLEGE STUDENT? I WOULD SAY IT WOULD NEED TO BE THE PERSON ON THE LEASE IF THERE'S A WAY OF VERIFYING THAT. BUT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I JUST I'M NOT SURE THAT FROM A. I'M NOT SURE THAT THE PERSON CIRCULATING THE PETITION CAN GET THAT DEEP INTO IT. I THINK WE'RE SOMEWHAT GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE PEOPLE'S WORD FOR IT THAT THEY THAT THEY ARE THE LEGAL TENANT OF THE HOUSE. WHEN I LOOK AT IT, YOU KNOW, OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, I GUESS WE WOULD HAVE TO TRY TO GO BACK, MAKE CONTACT WITH EVERYBODY, DOUBLE CHECK IT. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WORK DURING THE DAYS. IT'S JUST GOING TO BE HARD. WELL, THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, I MEAN, I WOULD SAY THE RESIDENT WOULD BE THE PERSON LIVING IN THE PROPERTY. AND BECAUSE IF I'M A IF I OWN A RENTAL HOUSE, I'M NOT A RESIDENT, I JUST OWN THE PROPERTY. I'M NOT A I'M NOT THE RESIDENT. I JUST OWN THE PROPERTY. I'M A HOME OWNER. I WOULD SAY THE PERSON LIVING IN IT THAT'S ON A LEASE, OR IF I'VE GIVEN MY DAUGHTER OR MY KID PERMISSION TO LIVE THERE, THAT'S THEIR RESIDENCE. I THINK THEY SHOULD BE THE PERSON THAT HAS.

RIGHT. I JUST THINK WHATEVER WE DECIDE, WE JUST NEED TO HAVE IT WRITTEN AS A WRITTEN POLICY.

WHATEVER IT IS, WE DECIDE BECAUSE WE NEED TO BACK IT UP AND DON'T HAVE A SITUATION LIKE PENNWOOD. EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE EXPANDED OUR NUMBER, WE NEED TO HAVE IT WRITTEN THAT WE ALL DECIDE AND AGREE ON WHATEVER THAT AGREEMENT THAT WE DECIDE ON TONIGHT. SO WE DON'T HAVE A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE TO COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, DOES IT? DOES IT NEED TO BE? I MEAN, SINCE THE SPONSORS NOT EVEN HERE AND HE HE JUST. YEAH. OKAY. WHAT WAS YOUR FEELING? SHELBY? I KNOW YOU WERE. MR. COUNCIL MEMBER. THOMAS, WHAT WAS YOUR FEELING? YOU WERE THERE AT THE MEETING? I READ THE MINUTES. WHAT WAS YOUR FEELING? WELL, I MEAN, THE BIG THING WAS JUST EXPANDING THE TERRITORY WITH THE SIGNATURES THAT WERE ALLOWED. WE REALLY DIDN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT THE WHOLE THE RESIDENTS OR THE OWNER. WE DIDN'T REALLY GET INTO THAT. BUT AS WE SIT HERE AND DISCUSS IT AS A COUNCIL, WE PROBABLY DO NEED TO DEFINE IT AS A RESIDENCE AS THE PERSON LIVING IN THE PROPERTY OR SOMETHING. AND THAT WOULD TAKE CARE OF IT, BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, WE DID HAVE THE ISSUE ON PINEWOOD AND IT GOT INTO WHO OWNED THE PROPERTY, WHO WAS LIVING IN THE PROPERTY. I SAID, SIGN IT. I DIDN'T SAY SIGN IT. I THINK JUST DEFINING IT BY SAYING THE RESIDENT IS THE PERSON LIVING THERE SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT. I MEAN, WE GOT A WHAT'S A LEGAL ADVICE ON THAT? AND I WOULD ADD, WE CANNOT MAKE IT SO ONEROUS. I MEAN, WE'VE GOT HARD WORKING CITY EMPLOYEES. WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE IT ONEROUS, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE THAT DEFINITION AND MAKE A DECISION AND JUST SAY, STICK WITH IT IF IT'S GOING TO BE RESIDENT, IF IT'S GOING TO BE WHATEVER WE DECIDE AND MAKE THAT DECISION AND THEN STICK WITH THAT DECISION, I THINK IT HAS TO BE RESIDENT. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE RESIDENT, IF IT'S RESIDENT, THEN IT'S RESIDENT. IF YOU'RE THE RESIDENT OF THE PROPERTY, THEN YOU'RE THE RESIDENT. YOU'RE THE OWNER. IT'S TYPICALLY WHOEVER LIVES THERE, RIGHT? A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO BE LLCS. THEY'RE GOING TO BE HARD TO EVEN DETERMINE WHO THE ACTUAL OWNER IS. BUT I THINK IT HAS TO BE

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RESIDENT, YOU KNOW, IF IT MAKES YOU REST ANY EASIER. I THINK INCREASING THE DISTANCE AND INCREASING THE PERCENTAGE THAT'S GOING TO HELP. AND, YOU KNOW, TO BE HONEST, WE'VE WE'VE KNOCKED MOST OF THEM OUT AT THIS POINT. I MEAN, THEY'RE STILL COMING IN REQUESTS, BUT WE'RE NOT SEEING A LOT OF THEM THAT ACTUALLY MEET THE CRITERIA AT THIS POINT. I THINK, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S SLOWED DOWN. SO THE OPPORTUNITY FOR GETTING IT WRONG IS DEFINITELY GOING TO BE LESS.

YEAH. WE HAVE NOT HAD ONE. WE'VE NOT HAD ONE QUALIFY IN SINCE LAST YEAR. WE'VE NOT HAD ANY QUALIFY THIS YEAR. WE'VE HAD I THINK FOUR REQUESTS THIS YEAR SO FAR. NONE OF THEM QUALIFIED. YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE IDENTIFIED MOST OF THE PROBLEM AREAS AT THIS POINT. I MEAN THERE'LL BE OTHERS POP UP. BUT BUT WE DID INCREASE THE BUY IN SO THAT THAT'S GOT TO HELP. YEAH. OKAY.

WE CAN KEEP THAT AT ONE READING AND MOVE ON OKAY. WASTEWATER COMMITTEE. A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE 2025 WASTEWATER FUND BUDGET, APPROVING PURCHASES AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. COME ON IN. YES.

WE ONE OF THE FIRST SHOSHONE PUMP STATION PUT A GENERATOR FOR 60,000, WHICH WE DIDN'T PUT IN THE BUDGET AT THE LAST YEAR. WHEN WE DID THE BUDGET, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED BECAUSE IN THAT AREA WE HAVE A POWER ISSUE WITH ENERGY THAT ALWAYS LOSING POWER. AND THAT PUMP STATION IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE LAKE. AND SO TO BE ABLE TO HAVE CONSISTENT POWER FOR THAT PUMP STATION, WE DECIDED, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO PUT A PUMP STATION, YOU KNOW, A GENERATOR FOR THAT PUMP STATION. AND WE GOT WE'RE GOING TO GET ONE THROUGH SOURCEWELL. AND WE ALSO WE'RE GOING TO GET A SEWER CAMERA, WHICH WE PUT IN THE BUDGET. BUT THE PROBLEM IS WE ONLY ONLY ONLY BUDGET 70,000. AND WHEN WE DO THE SPECS AND PUT OUT THE BID, WE CAN GET ONE FOR 70,000. BUT WE WEREN'T HAPPY WITH WHAT WAS GOING TO GET. SO. SO IT WASN'T THE QUALITY THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. BECAUSE IF WE NEED, IF WE GET ONE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO USE IT FOR YEARS TO COME. AND I HAVE A FEELING IF WE GET THE CHEAPER ONE, WE WOULD ACTUALLY END UP IN PROBABLY WITHIN FIVE YEARS BUYING ANOTHER ONE. SO WE ARE GOING TO GET ONE FOR 124,000 IS WHAT WE GOT FOR THROUGH SOURCEWELL, AND IT ACTUALLY MEETS OUR NEEDS AND THEN SOME. AND SO BUT THE PROBLEM IS IN OUR IN MY CAPITAL, I HAVE A SHORTFALL OF 115,000. SO I'M ASKING FOR 115,000 FROM THE RESERVE TO MAKE UP THAT DEFICIENT. AND YOU'LL STILL HAVE HOW MUCH IN RESERVES. EVEN AFTER THAT. WE STILL HAVE OVER 3 MILLION IN RESERVES. OKAY. SO YOU STILL HAVE A HEFTY AMOUNT IN RESERVES THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION IS IN COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS AND COUNCIL MEMBER TOWNSEND'S WARD. IT'S AN UNUSUAL CASE WHERE YOU HAVE HOMES THAT ARE BELOW THAT PUMP STATION, AND YOU ALSO HAVE A LAKE BELOW IT. AND SO IF IT CAN'T PUMP, IT CAN BACK UP INTO PEOPLE'S HOMES. SO IT'S THAT IS A RARE CASE. THE ONLY ONE THAT WE KNOW OF. BUT YES, IT CERTAINLY THIS HAS BEEN A SITUATION THAT WE HAVE KNOWN ABOUT FOR QUITE SOME TIME. SO AND ALSO IF WE HAVE A GENERATOR, IT WOULD ACTUALLY CUT DOWN THE MAN HOURS LIKE FOR ON CALL. BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WHEN IT DOES GO OUT WE HAVE TO HAVE A PUMP ON SITE TO BE ABLE TO KEEP IT GOING. BUT IF A GENERATOR, IF IT LOSES POWER GENERATOR KICKS ON THE PUMP STATION, I WILL SAY YOU'RE AWFULLY FRUGAL. SO I WOULD SAY LET'S PASS THIS RESOLUTION FOR THESE. IS THAT A IS THAT A MOTION? THAT'S A MOTION OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS TO PASS A RESOLUTION. AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BRODERICK. ROLL CALL. PLEASE TREAT. YES. WADE BRODERICK I TOWNSEND I MCCULLOUGH I BROOKS I WILLIAMS I THOMAS ABSTAIN THE MOTION PASSES SIX YES ONE ABSENT AND ONE ABSTAIN OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ITEM EIGHT AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 2140 REGARDING THE

[8. An ordinance amending ordinance 2140 regarding the adoption of new policies and procedures for the Department of Humane Animal Services, and for other purposes (READ 2X at Feb. meeting as amended) (Council Members Townsend, Treat and McCullough)]

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ADOPTION OF NEW POLICIES AND PROCEDURES FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF HUMANE ANIMAL SERVICES AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES, AS AMENDED. THIS IS THE THIRD READING. ALL RIGHT. WE DO HAVE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS. I WOULD ASK THAT SINCE THERE ARE SO MANY, THAT IF YOU DO NOT LIVE IN THE CITY OF SHERWOOD, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU. ALLOW THOSE THAT ARE RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK ON IT, BECAUSE WE HAVE 1918 PEOPLE SAID 18 SIGNED UP. MAYOR, WILL YOU TELL US HOW MANY ARE NON SHERWOOD RESIDENTS? I JUST GLANCED DOWN AND SAW A COUPLE. SO. MOONSTONE? YES.

OKAY, LET ME LOOK OVER. THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT SURE WHAT THIS ONE. IS THAT I HAVE HERE WE SPEAK. YES. LEFT SIDE. MEETING SOON. YES. YES. SCOTT'S NOT MET UP. YES OF COURSE. YES. YEP. WE JUST HAVE ONE. CLARIFICATION IF I CAN. YES. I CAN'T READ THIS LAST NAME. IT'S KEITH AND BEGINS WITH THE W. THAT'S KEITH WEBER, JACKSONVILLE. THAT'S JACKSONVILLE OKAY OKAY. BUT HE SAID SIR IT SAYS NOT SPEAKING. CORRECT OKAY OKAY. IS THE IS DO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT TO ALLOW THEN THAT WOULD BE 16. OR DO YOU WANT TO ALLOW THE 17. IF THE NON SHERWOOD RESIDENT WE JUST NEED TO KNOW HOW TO PROCEED. WELL I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE THING. I HAD SOMEONE EMAIL ME TODAY AND I HAD ASKED CHARLOTTE AND STEVE TO PASS THE EMAIL ALONG BECAUSE SHE TRIED TO EMAIL EVERYBODY. SHE SAID SOME OF THEM GOT KICKED BACK, BUT SO I DIDN'T WANT TO PASS IT ALONG BECAUSE SHE SAID SHE COULDN'T. SHE DIDN'T WANT TO COME TONIGHT BECAUSE SHE THOUGHT BEING A NON SHERWOOD RESIDENT, SHE WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK. SO OKAY, FOR CLARITY, THE PERSON THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING HERE IS A GUEST SPEAKER OF MINE. SO WE CAN JUST MARK THAT OFF THE LIST AND I CAN CALL THEM UP. PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. THERE YOU GO. THERE YOU GO. PERFECT. THE ONE FROM SCOTT.

SO JUST DISREGARD. JUST MARK THAT OFF. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO THE SPONSORS OF THE ORDINANCE. COUNCIL MEMBER TREE FLOOR IS YOURS. WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE SPEAKERS TO BE ABLE TO COME UP FIRST AND THEN US SPEAK ON IT AFTER THEM. IS THAT A GOOD WORKFLOW? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ALL OR YOUR THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'VE ASKED INVITED TO COME UP THERE? YOU'D LIKE THE GUESTS TO SPEAK FIRST? YES. ALL RIGHT. THIS LIST OR YES, THAT LIST.

PUBLIC COMMENT LIST FIRST. ALL RIGHT. LET ME GET SITUATED. AARON VICKERS. IF YOU HAPPEN TO SIGN UP, IF YOU PLEASE COME ON UP. IF YOU THOUGH SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AND YOU KNOW, YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, IF YOU COULD MAKE YOUR WAY OVER TO THE WALL SO THAT WE CAN QUICKLY TRANSITION WHEN YOU COME UP TO SPEAK, LET ME JUST REMIND EVERYBODY, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. YOU WILL GET THREE MINUTES AND THAT WILL BE KEPT BY OUR CITY ATTORNEY. WE ASK FROM THE AUDIENCE, PLEASE, NO CLAPPING, NO CHEERING, NO BOOING. PLEASE KEEP YOUR RESPONSE. LET'S BE RESPECTFUL TO EVERYONE, NO MATTER WHAT THEIR POSITIONS ARE. I KNOW THAT THIS IS AN EMOTIONAL ISSUE. YES, MA'AM. GO AHEAD. TIME BEGIN. READY? YES. HI, I'M AARON VICKERS. I LIVE ON RIDGEWOOD OVER JUST OFF HATCHER ROAD. SO I PASSED AROUND PAMPHLETS FOR EVERYBODY. IT'S ACTUALLY A STORY THAT WAS DONE NOT IN THIS LOCATION, BUT IT'S A DOG THAT I RESCUED MYSELF. YEAH, WE'LL START THERE. I WANTED TO SHOW WHAT SHERWOOD IS MISSING OUT ON BY NOT ALLOWING PITBULLS TO BE IN THE CITY. THE FIRST ONE IS FREEDOM. NOT ONLY FREEDOM TO OWN LOYAL ANIMALS, BUT ALSO THE FREEDOM TO FEEL ALIVE AGAIN. YOU'LL UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS THERE AT THE END. ONCE I FINISH SECOND IS A REDUCTION IN EUTHANIZATION RATES AND POTENTIALLY A REDUCTION OF VETERAN SUICIDES THAT WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY AS A WHOLE. THIRD

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IS THE INCREASE IN MENTAL HEALTH AND THE FUNDING TO MANY OF THE STRUGGLING ANIMAL RESCUES THAT WE HAVE IN THIS CITY. SO THE STORY ITSELF IS ABOUT A DOG NAMED DOTTIE. SHE WAS ABANDONED AND SCARED TWO AND A HALF YEAR OLD. PITY. WHEN I TOOK HER HOME, SHE HATED MEN, SHE HATED KIDS.

SHE HATED OTHER ANIMALS. NOBODY COULD GET NEAR HER BUT ME. I DON'T HAVE PROFESSIONAL TRAINING. IT ONLY TOOK ME TWO WEEKS. THIS ANIMAL LOVED EVERY SINGLE CHILD THAT CAME INTO MY HOUSE. EVERY MAN THAT CAME IN MY HOUSE. NOT THAT WAY. JUST LETTING YOU KNOW. NOT THAT WAY, I PROMISE. AND ANY OTHER DOG THAT WAS IN MY HOUSE, MY, MY TRUE DOG, MY BOXER, I THINK ACTUALLY BROUGHT THAT OUT OF HER. AND TWO WEEKS IS ALL IT TOOK. SHE WAS ADOPTED BY A THREE TIME IRAQI WAR VETERAN. HE WAS IN THE MILITARY. HE WAS SECURITY FORCES. HE WOULD SLEEP ON A COT IN FRONT OF HIS FRONT DOOR. FOR SEVEN YEARS. HE WENT THROUGH MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS, SEVEN YEARS OF PTSD AND NOT BEING ABLE TO SLEEP IN THE SAME BED AS HIS WIFE. WITHIN THE FIRST MONTH OF DOTTIE GOING INTO HIS HOME, SHE REALIZED THE ISSUES THAT HE WAS HAVING. AND ONE MONTH IT TOOK AND HE SLEPT IN THE BED FOR THE FIRST TIME IN FIVE YEARS WITH HIS FIANCEE. THAT STORY ALONE WAS PUT ON PETCO, THAT THEY GIVE 700 AND SOME THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR IN FOUNDATION FUNDS, THAT RESCUE ONE $25,000 OFF HIS STORY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. DARLA EWING. YES, MA'AM. I'M DARLA EWING, AND I LIVE AT 8008 NORTH CLAREMONT. I HOPE I CAN DO THIS OUT CRYING. I APOLOGIZE IF I DO. A YEAR AGO THIS PAST JANUARY. MY HUSBAND GOT VERY PHYSICALLY, EMOTIONALLY ABUSIVE TO ME. HE SLAMMED HIM DOWN AND CRACKED TWO OF MY RIBS. WELL, LUCKILY WE DIDN'T LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS AND WE HAVE A PIT BULL. AND WHEN HE FOUND OUT THAT SHE WOULD ATTACK HIM EVERY TIME THAT HE CAME NEAR ME, HE WOULD MAKE HE WOULD LOCK HER OUTSIDE OR IN THE BEDROOM TO KEEP US APART SO SHE COULD. SO HE COULDN'T GET NEAR ME. HE WOULD LOCK HER UP. SO FINALLY, WHEN SHE LEARNED THAT WHEN HE WAS GOING TO HIT ME IN HIS ATTITUDE WHEN HE CAME HOME, SHE WOULD GET IN MY LAP IN THE RECLINER AND LAY WITH ME UNTIL I WENT TO BED SO HE WOULDN'T BEAT ME ANYMORE.

SINCE THEN, I MOVED OUT AND I'D LIKE TO MOVE IN THE CITY LIMITS, BUT I CAN'T BRING HER WITH. I MEAN, I LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS, BUT I CAN'T BRING HER WITH ME AND I'M SCARED TO DEATH HE'S GOING TO FIND ME, AND I JUST WANT HER WITH ME BECAUSE SHE CAN PROTECT ME. BUT SHE'S A PIT BULL AND SHE'S BANNED. I'M SORRY, Y'ALL. THANK YOU. ROBERT TAYLOR. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS ROBERT TAYLOR. I'M AGAINST THE ORDINANCE. I'VE. I'VE SPOKEN BEFORE. MY EX-WIFE SHOWED Y'ALLS PICTURES OF OUR SON. NEXT MONTH WOULD BE FIVE YEARS SINCE HE'S BEEN KILLED BY TWO PITBULLS IN FAULKNER COUNTY. LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IT'S ON YOUR HANDS. IT'S Y'ALL'S RESPONSIBILITY TO VOTE THIS IN OR AGAINST IT. JUST THINK OF YOUR KIDS AND YOUR GRANDKIDS AT SCHOOL DURING RECESS. NONE OF THESE SCHOOLS HAVE FENCED IN PLAYGROUNDS. IF A PITBULL GETS LOOSE AND ATTACKS A KID, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? IT'S ON YOUR HANDS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. CAROLYN CULPEPPER. CAROL IS GOING TO BE. I GUESS SHE'S. A LITTLE SAFER, DO I WAIT? YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. OKAY. AARON. EVANS, I'M SORRY. I'M DOING THE BEST I CAN. I'M AARON EVANS. I LIVE AT TWO EIGHT, TWO FIVE MOONSHINE COVE, AND I'M HERE TO DISAGREE WITH THE BSL ONE. I WANT TO INITIALLY SAY MY HEART GOES OUT TO ANYBODY WHO'S BEEN HARMED BY ANY DOG OR ANY ANIMAL OR ANY PERSON, JUST LIKE HUMANS, DOGS ARE A PRODUCT OF THEIR ENVIRONMENT. A KID WHO IS BEATEN, ABUSED, NEGLECTED, STARVED, ETC. IS NOT GOING TO GROW UP AND BE LIKE MOST OF US HAVE BEEN. SAME THING WITH THE DOG. THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IN ARKANSAS THAT I HAVE SEEN, I'M A BY THE WAY, I'VE ONLY LIVED IN THE STATE ABOUT SIX YEARS. I'M A MILITARY VETERAN, I'VE LIVED IN

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A LOT OF PLACES, AND I HAVE TO SAY, THIS IS THE WORST STATE I'VE LIVED IN AS FAR AS ANIMAL CRUELTY LAWS. IT IS SICKENING. AND THE PROBLEM IS NOT GOOD OWNERS. IT IS NOT RESPONSIBLE BREEDERS. IT IS NOT GOOD DOGS. IT IS PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT THERE ABUSING THESE ANIMALS, OVERBREEDING THEM AND DOG FIGHTING. BSL IS NOT PREVENTING ANY OF THAT. ALL BSL IS DOING IS STOPPING PEOPLE FROM LIVING IN PLACES LIKE JACKSONVILLE AND SHERWOOD AND OTHER PLACES WHO WANT TO LIVE HERE, BECAUSE PEOPLE COME HERE WITH THESE DOGS AND NOW THEY CAN'T LIVE HERE. SO YOU'RE TURNING THOSE PEOPLE AWAY. I CAN GET INTO ALL OF THE ANIMAL NEGLECT CASES, AND THEY'RE NOT LIMITED TO PITBULLS. THEY'RE ANY DOG. ANY DOG CAN BE AGGRESSIVE. I HAVE A NIECE WHO WAS ATTACKED BY A GOLDEN RETRIEVER WHO HAD TO ACTUALLY HAVE PLASTIC SURGERY TO FIX HER FACE AND REATTACH HER EAR. ANY DOG CAN DO THAT. BSL IS NOT GOING TO STOP THIS. WE NEED TO ENFORCE THE LAWS THAT WE HAVE. WE NEED TO HAVE STRICTER LAWS, AND WE NEED TO EMPOWER OUR WONDERFUL POLICE DEPARTMENT TO GO OUT THERE AND DO THOSE THINGS. DAISY'S LAW THAT WAS JUST SIGNED IS A GOOD START, BUT WE NEED TO DO MORE. WE NEED TO DO MORE FOR THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE NEED TO DO MORE FOR THE ANIMALS IN OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. HILLARY HICKS. HI, I'M HILLARY HICKS, I LIVE AT THE CORNER OF KOHLER AND CLAREMONT, AND I WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT WAS JUST SPOKEN. THE PROBLEM IS NOT GOOD PEOPLE WHO TAKE CARE OF DOGS THAT MIGHT NEED HELP. AND THE PROBLEM IS NOT DOGS THAT HAVE BEEN ABUSED.

THE PROBLEM IS PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO DISOBEY ANY BREED SPECIFIC LEGISLATION THAT YOU PASS. IN ANY CASE, AND IN PASSING RULES THAT ARE ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS, IN MY OPINION, YOU ARE LIMITING THE RIGHTS OF OTHER CITIZENS WHO WOULD NOT BE A PART OF THIS PROBLEM TO LIVE THEIR HAPPIEST AND FULLEST LIFE WITH THE DOGS OF THEIR CHOICE. WHAT WAS SAID AT THE BEGINNING DURING THE PRAYER WAS THAT THIS IS A GOOD GOVERNMENT. WE NEED TO THANK THE LORD FOR WHAT WE HAVE AS A GOVERNMENT, AND IT SHOULD BE A SMALL GOVERNMENT, AND IT SHOULD BE A GOVERNMENT THAT PROTECTS PEOPLE AND ENFORCES RULES THAT SHOULD BE IN PLACE. AND ALSO TO REITERATE WHAT THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER SAID, ENFORCED MORE EFFECTIVELY AND MORE PROACTIVELY. AND THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SUPPORT OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SUPPORT OF OUR SHELTERS AND NOT GOING TO BE FACILITATED IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM BY LIMITING THE TYPE AND TO EXPOUND A BIT THE NUMBER OF PETS AND DOGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE. I'M NOT SURE IF NOW IS A GOOD TIME TO TALK ABOUT THE OTHER TWO POINTS THAT I HAVE ISSUE WITH, AND THAT WOULD BE THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS. SO BRIEFLY, THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS IS ALSO ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS. THERE IS NO REASON THAT FOUR IS A REASONABLE NUMBER TO EITHER HAVE OR NOT HAVE. PEOPLE CAN BE UNKIND TO ANIMALS IF THEY HAVE THREE ANIMALS, OR IF THEY HAVE SEVEN ANIMALS. ONE ANIMAL CAN BE ABUSED JUST AS EFFECTIVELY AS NINE ANIMALS. AND THERE ARE THOSE OF US THAT HAVE PLENTY OF SPACE AND PLENTY OF ROOM IN OUR HOUSES AND IN OUR YARDS AND IN OUR HEARTS. WHO WOULD HAVE MORE ANIMALS? AND HAVING BEEN A VERY EXCELLENT SUPPORTER OF THE SHERWOOD SHELTER, I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT AS LONG AS I TAKE CARE OF MY ANIMALS, I CAN HAVE AS MANY AS I WANT. HOW WE SHOULD MANAGE THIS IS BY UTILIZING WHAT MY REPRESENTATIVE SAID IS TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBORS. IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOUR NEIGHBOR'S DOGS, THEN GO SPEAK WITH THEM. IF IT DOES NOT GET RESOLVED, THEN THAT IS WHEN YOU COME TO THE COMMITTEE OR TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SAY, WE HAVE A PROBLEM, WE HAVE 30S YOU HAVE NOISE ORDINANCES ALREADY IN PLACE. WE HAVE ANIMAL ABUSE RULES THAT NEED TO BE MORE EFFECTIVELY APPLIED, AND WE CAN UTILIZE THOSE WITHOUT HAVING TO INVOLVE OR WITHOUT HAVING TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OR THE TYPES OF ANIMALS THAT OUR CITIZENS CAN HAVE. I'LL TALK ABOUT EXOTICS NEXT TIME. KRISTA ANDERSON. HELLO, I'M KRISTA ANDERSON, I LIVE AT 9797 CLIFFSIDE DRIVE IN SHERWOOD, AND ONE OF MY REPRESENTATIVES IS NOT HERE TONIGHT. UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE ALL HEARD FACT AFTER FACT AND EMOTION AFTER EMOTION FROM BOTH SIDES OVER THIS ISSUE. BUT THE TRUTH IS, THE BAN HAS NOT KEPT PITBULLS OUT. IT HAS KEPT RESPONSIBLE CITIZENS FROM

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LEGALLY ADOPTING THE KIND OF DOG THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE. PEOPLE WHO RUN DOG FIGHTING RINGS, BREEDING MEALS AND THOSE WHO ABUSE ANIMALS WILL DO SO, WHETHER IT'S LEGAL OR ILLEGAL, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE, LAW ABIDING CITIZENS. MISS JOHNSON'S SON THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, HE WAS KILLED BY A PACK OF WILD, HUNGRY DOGS AND THAT SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED. BUT THE OWNER WAS NOT A GOOD CITIZEN. HE HAD NUMEROUS LEGAL ISSUES, NUMEROUS ISSUES WITH THE LAW TO DIRECTLY QUOTE HER FROM THE RECENT NEWS INTERVIEW. THE OWNERS DON'T TAKE PROPER MEASUREMENTS TO KEEP THE DOGS IN THEIR YARD, SO THE BREED IS NOT THE ISSUE, BUT PEOPLE ARE THE ISSUE. WE DON'T CONDONE BAD OWNERSHIP. WE DON'T THINK PEOPLE CAN JUST DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE. BUT WE BUT WELL-MEANING, RESPONSIBLE, LAW ABIDING CITIZENS WILL CARE FOR THEIR ANIMALS AND ACCEPT THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEM, NO MATTER THE BREED OR TYPE OF PET, RESPONSIBLE CITIZENS WILL TAKE THE PROPER MEASURES TO ENSURE THEIR DOG IS SAFE AND SAFE TO OUR COMMUNITY. WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON COMMUNITY, AND I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT THE MAJORITY OF SHERWOOD ARE GOOD PEOPLE WHO CAN BE TRUSTED. BUT BY BANNING A BREED THAT YOUR CITIZENS CLEARLY WANT, THE MESSAGE YOU'RE SPEAKING VERY LOUDLY IS THAT YOU DON'T TRUST THE VERY PEOPLE WHO TRUSTED YOU TO BE THEIR VOICE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, JAMES ANDERSON. JAMES ANDERSON, ALSO AT 9797 CLIFFSIDE DRIVE. I HANG OUT WITH HER. SO IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS, THE QUESTION HAS BEEN ASKED, WHAT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS AND THE CITY GETS SUED? MY QUESTION IS, HOW IS THIS ANY DIFFERENT FROM BIKE LANES? WE HAVE BIKE LANES ALL THROUGH THIS WONDERFUL CITY, AND THE BIKE LANES WORK BECAUSE WE HAVE RESPONSIBLE INDIVIDUALS WHO OPERATE A CAR IN A RESPECTFUL MANNER. I MEAN, WE CAN ASK OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT THE CITY. WE STRUGGLE WITH FOUR WAY STOPS AND ROUNDABOUTS, BUT IT REQUIRES SOMEONE RESPECTFUL. DRIVING A CAR. YOU HAVE A VEHICLE THAT CAN TAKE SOMEONE'S LIFE. HOW IS THIS ANY DIFFERENT THAN PET OWNERSHIP? RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERS ARE GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING. THEY'RE GOING TO MICROCHIP. THEY'RE GOING TO PUT FENCES UP. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE RESPECT FOR THEMSELVES, THEIR ANIMALS AND THEIR NEIGHBORS. SO I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO CONSIDER THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. LAURA PFEIFFER. LAURA PIFER, 3016 NEW KINGSTON COURT. SO I'M SPEAKING OF SOMETHING THAT HAS JUST CAME OUT RECENTLY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL ARE AWARE, BUT IN THE UNITED KINGDOM, XL BULLIES AND PITBULLS ARE COMPLETELY BANNED. THEY HAVE BEEN BANNED SINCE FEBRUARY 2024. SO. AND WITH THEM BEING BANNED IS YOU CAN HAVE A DOG, THEY CAN HAVE A PITBULL STILL, BUT IT HAS TO HAVE ALL THESE PERMITS, EVERYTHING LIKE CHIPPING, NEUTERING, EVERYTHING HAS TO BE DONE TO HAVE THIS BREED OF DOG. SO AND THE REASON THEY DID THIS IS BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO MAKE EVERYBODY SAFER. THEY WANTED IT TO BE SAFE THERE. BUT IT'S BEEN A YEAR AND EVERYTHING'S COMING OUT NOW, AND IT WAS JUST RELEASED IN APRIL THIS MONTH, THAT SINCE THAT TIME, GUESS WHAT? IT DIDN'T WORK. AND ONE REGION DOG BITES WENT UP 9% IN THREE MONTHS AND ANOTHER REGION 30%. SO WHAT DOES THAT TELL US? ONCE AGAIN, THAT BREED SPECIFIC LEGISLATION DOES NOT WORK. THEY REMOVED AN ENTIRE BREED OF DOGS, AN ENTIRE BREED, BASICALLY, BECAUSE IF TO OWN A PITBULL THERE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT MUZZLED IN PUBLIC. IT HAS TO BE LEASHED EVERYTHING AND THEY WILL SEIZE YOUR DOG. THEY HAVE EUTHANIZED OVER 800 DOGS THIS PAST YEAR, WHICH IS DOUBLE THE AMOUNT THEY EUTHANIZED THE YEAR BEFORE. SO ONCE AGAIN, THIS JUST KIND OF SPEAKS TO THE FACT THAT IT DOESN'T WORK. IT GOES BACK TO DOG OWNERSHIP, BECAUSE WHENEVER YOU BAN ONE BREED, IT'S JUST GOING TO GO TO A DIFFERENT BREED OF DOGS. THAT'S ALL IT'S GOING TO DO. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING. THE DOG BITES WILL STILL HAPPEN. AND UNFORTUNATELY IN THE UK, THEY'RE IN A BIG MESS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT'S REALLY GONE UP. DURING THE LAST MEETING, A FEW COUNCILMEN SHARED VERY PERSONAL STORIES ABOUT PITBULL BITES THAT HAVE OCCURRED, SO I ACTUALLY WANTED TO LOOK INTO SOME OF THEM BECAUSE THEY WERE PRETTY SPECIFIC CASES. SO THERE WAS ONE SPECIFIC CASE THAT HAPPENED IN CABOT, AND SO I WENT AHEAD AND REACHED OUT TO CABOT TO GET THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT AND TALK TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO GET ALL THE RECORDS PULLED. SO IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, I WASN'T ABLE TO FIND THAT SPECIFIC CASE. BUT WHAT I DID FIND WAS IN THAT

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CITY WHERE PITBULLS ARE ALLOWED, THEY ONLY HAD 28 DOG BITES AND THEY ONLY LISTED TWO AS PETS.

NOW, THERE WERE A LOT OF DOGS THAT WEREN'T LISTED AT ALL, BUT SOME OF THE DOGS THAT WERE LISTED WERE RECEIVERS, YORKIES, SHIH TZUS, LABS, AND PUGS. SO THIS IS A CITY THAT DOESN'T HAVE BSL AND DOESN'T REALLY LOOK LIKE THEY HAVE A PITBULL DOG BITE PROBLEM THERE. SO PLEASE REMEMBER AS YOU VOTE TONIGHT, NOT YOUR PERSONAL OPINION, YOU ARE VOTING FOR THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED YOU INTO THIS OFFICE, SO PLEASE LISTEN TO THEM. THANK YOU. MARIA ZAFFINO I HOPE I PRONOUNCED THAT CORRECTLY. HI. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS MARIA ZAFFINO. I LIVE AT ONE 111 NORTH DEVON AVENUE IN SHERWOOD AND I CAN APPRECIATE ALL THE STORIES. BELIEVE ME, I'VE BEEN THROUGH A LOT. A LOT OF STORIES, A LOT OF HEARTACHE WITH DOGS AND LIFE IN GENERAL AND EVERYTHING ELSE REAL QUICK. I DON'T THINK IT HAS ANYTHING A WHOLE LOT TO DO WITH THE DOG OWNERSHIP. MY SON WAS ATTACKED AT THE AGE OF 11 BY A PITBULL, BY A VERY GOOD FRIENDS, WHICH ARE GOOD PEOPLE. WE'VE KNOWN THEM. WE LIVED IN SHERWOOD FOR 34 YEARS NOW. THEY WERE GOOD PEOPLE. THEY WERE GOOD DOG OWNERS. MY SON KNEW THIS DOG. HE'S BEEN AROUND THE DOG EVERY JUST ABOUT EVERY DAY. THEY WENT OUT TO FEED HIM ONE MORNING, AND THE DOG JUST TURNED AROUND AND MAULED AND GRABBED HIM BY THE CALF, ALMOST TORE HIS CALF OFF, OR DID TEAR HIS CALF OFF. JUST ALMOST GOT TO THE NERVE. I JUST ANYTHING I DO IN MY LIFE WHEN IT COMES TO KIDS, MY NEIGHBORS, SOCIETY IN GENERAL, RESPECT FOR JUST BEING A DECENT PERSON AND RESPECTING OTHER NEIGHBORS. I DO RESEARCH ANYTHING I DO. UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S NOT THE I DON'T THINK IT'S THERE'S TRAINING, THERE'S A GOOD DOG OWNER, THERE'S BAD DOG OWNERS. THE UNFORTUNATE THING IS THAT PIT BULLS HAVE HAD A TRANSITION OF THEY THEY IT'S NOT THE BREEDING. IT'S LIKE A TRANSITIONAL THING. THEY, THEY, THEY JUST DEVELOPED THAT WAY BECAUSE OF ALL THE ABUSE. THE BAD DOG OWNERS. OKAY. THERE ARE A LOT OF BAD DOG OWNERS OF COURSE, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT DOG IS GOING TO DO. THAT'S MY PROBLEM. I WOULD NEVER OWN A PIT BULL. ME PERSONALLY, BECAUSE OF THE STATISTICS OF THAT TYPE OF DOG AND THE BREEDING AND THE UNFORTUNATE ABUSE OF THOSE DOGS.

SO I'VE ALWAYS SAID, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT A GOOD DOG OR A BAD DOG IS GOING TO DO. SO I JUST KIND OF TEND THAT WAS A HORRIFIC EXPERIENCE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I THOUGHT, WELL, HE'S SAFE AT THAT HOUSE. HE'S KNOWN THE DOG, SO THAT JUST TELLS YOU AT ANY MOMENT YOU COULD BE THE BEST DOG OWNER. THAT DOG IS NOT GOING TO TURN AROUND AND TELL YOU I'M GETTING READY TO BITE YOU OR MAUL YOU OR YOUR KID APART. I MEAN, I'M VERY SYMPATHETIC TO ALL THE STORIES AND THE PEOPLE HAVING THE RIGHT TO OWN THE DOGS THEY WANT, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO MAKE REALLY INTELLIGENT DECISIONS. MA'AM, YOU HAVE 30S. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. BUDDY FISHER. BUDDY FISHER, 8949 MEADOW GARDEN CIRCLE IN SHERWOOD. LIVED HERE TEN YEARS. HALLELUJAH. I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS THING'S BEEN BEAT AROUND THE BUSH FOR ALMOST, I DON'T KNOW, IS IT GOING ON TWO YEARS? I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT'S BEEN GOING ON, BUT CERTAINLY IF THIS ISN'T A MATTER OF COMMON SENSE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. GUYS. AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, EXCUSE ME. SO I WANT TO BRING UP TWO ISSUES. WE KNOW IT'S A WE KNOW IT'S A OWNER ISSUE, NOT A DOG ISSUE. I'VE OWNED THREE LABS, AS SOMEONE PREVIOUSLY STATED. AND IF YOU WANT TO GET A GOOD GUARD DOG, GET YOU A LAB BECAUSE IT WILL PROTECT YOUR FAMILY LIKE NO OTHER DOG AROUND YOU. COME THROUGH MY DOOR. THAT DOG WILL TAKE YOU OUT. OKAY, SO YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S PROVEN THAT YOU CAN TRAIN AND MAKE ANY DOG, YOU KNOW, VIOLENT OR DOCILE. OKAY, HERE'S THE TWO THINGS THAT I WANT TO BRING UP REAL QUICK IF I CAN. OKAY. WE HAVE A SHELTER. AND I THINK THIS IS THE BRUNT OF WHAT PART OF THE MAIN ISSUE IS WE HAVE A SHELTER THAT IS SUPPOSEDLY A NON-KILL SHELTER. SO NOW I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY BREEDS THERE ARE THERE THAT FALL UNDER THIS CATEGORY. BUT LET'S SAY A DOG COMES IN TODAY. THEY BRING IT IN AND IT'S NOT GOING TO GET KILLED. BUT BECAUSE NO ONE CAN ADOPT THIS DOG, BECAUSE

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IT'S UNDER THIS BREED, WE'RE GOING TO FEED AND HOUSE AND MAINTAIN THIS DOG FOR EVER, BECAUSE NO ONE CAN ADOPT IT. AND THAT'S A GOOD USE OF OUR TAX DOLLARS. SURE WOULD. WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK? I DON'T THINK SO. AND LET ME LET YOU ON THE LAST THING. AND I'M GOING TO BE DONE REAL FAST. OKAY. AND AGAIN THIS THIS IS THE REAL ISSUE. FOLLOW ME. TOMORROW I'M GOING TO LET YOU IN ON A REAL BIG SECRET. I CAN TAKE YOU ALL OVER SHERWOOD AND SHOW YOU PIT BULLS AND BOXERS AND BULLDOGS AND DOGS THAT FALL UNDER THIS CATEGORY EVERYWHERE. SO IF YOU THINK THIS ORDINANCE IS STOPPING PEOPLE FROM OWNING THESE DOGS, PLEASE DON'T FALL FOR THAT AND DON'T COME UNDER THE GUILT TRIP THAT SOME ARE TRYING TO PLACE UPON YOU. WE WOULD ALL EMPATHIZE WITH ANYBODY WHO'S BEEN HARMED BY ANY ANIMAL AT ANY TIME. OKAY, THE ONLY TIME I EVER GOT BIT BY A DOG IN MY LIFE WAS BY A WEENIE DOG WHEN I WAS A LITTLE KID, OKAY? RIGHT IN THE MOUTH, BY THE WAY. SO, I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING LET'S LET'S LET'S THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS IS NOT LET'S BRING RESTORE SOME COMMON SENSE. THIS IS NOT STOPPING THIS PROBLEM. YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. GOD BLESS YOU, COURTNEY MIXON. MY NAME IS COURTNEY MIXON. I DON'T WANT TO GIVE MY ADDRESS BECAUSE OF SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE. AND PHOTOGRAPHY PHOTOGRAPHING PEOPLE. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS. ASK A HUNDRED DIFFERENT AMERICANS TO DEFINE A PIT BULL WHAT IT IS. HOWEVER, YOU WILL GET 100 DIFFERENT ANSWERS. OVER THE PAST TWO DECADES, THE CATEGORY HAS SWELLED TO INCLUDE MIXED BREED DOGS THAT POSSESS SUPPOSED PIT BULL CHARACTERISTICS SUCH AS BLOCKY HEADS, WHITE CHEST MARKINGS, OR BRINDLE COATS. THOSE SAME CHARACTERISTICS CAN BE FOUND IN MORE THAN 20 BREEDS OF DOGS, AND THE LATEST GENETIC RESEARCH INDICATES THAT MANY MIXED BREED ANIMALS AND DOGS IDENTIFY AS PIT BULL MIXES ACTUALLY AREN'T IN NEARLY EVERY MUNICIPALITY WHERE BSL HAS BEEN ADOPTED, IT HAS FAILED TO PREVENT SERIOUS DOG BITES, INJURIES AND HOSPITALIZATIONS. VETERINARIANS, ANIMAL BEHAVIORISTS AND PUBLIC HEALTH EXPERTS, INCLUDING THOSE AT THE CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL AND PREVENTION, ARE VIRTUALLY UNANIMOUS IN THEIR DENUNCIATION OF BSL ON THE GROUNDS THAT IT IS BOTH CRUEL AND INEFFECTIVE. IN 2013, EVEN THE WHITE HOUSE RELEASED A STATEMENT AGAINST IT. SINCE 2018, OVER 100 CITIES HAVE REPEALED INEFFECTIVE BREED SPECIFIC LEGISLATION OR BANS TARGETING PIT BULL TYPE DOGS WITH MORE EFFECTIVE, BREED NEUTRAL POLICIES BASED ON MODERN PRACTICES FOR PREVENTING AND REDUCING SERIOUS DOG BITE INJURIES AND INCIDENTS. BSL IS REPLACED WITH BEHAVIOR, BEHAVIOR BASED, BREED NEUTRAL REGULATIONS THAT ARE MORE EFFECTIVE BECAUSE THEY ADDRESS ALL POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS DOGS, ALL IRRESPONSIBLE OWNERS, AND ALL UNSAFE DOG RELATED SITUATIONS, REGARDLESS OF A DOG'S APPEARANCE OR BREED. CABOT, ARKANSAS.

DEWITT, ARKANSAS. PRESCOTT, ARKANSAS. MAUMELLE, ARKANSAS AND DARDANELLE, ARKANSAS HAVE ALL ENDED. BREED SPECIFIC LEGISLATION. EVEN THE FIRST CITY THAT ENACTED BSL, WHICH WAS DENVER, COLORADO, HAS REPEALED BSL. IN 2020, A 31 YEAR OLD BAN WAS OVERTURNED. HELEN KELLER, GARY COOPER, THEODORE ROOSEVELT, BILLIE HOLIDAY, WOODROW WILSON, JOHN JOHN BERTHONNEAU, MARC JACOBS, CHANNING TATUM ALL HAD PIT BULL TYPE DOGS. THESE ARE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT OWN THESE SO-CALLED DANGEROUS DOGS DOCTORS, LAWYERS, DOCTORS, OPTICIANS, ASSISTANTS ALL OVER THE WORLD OWN A PIT BULL TYPE DOG, NOT A CRIMINAL. YOU HAVE 30S. THESE ARE THE RESPONSIBLE OWNERS. THESE ARE THE MAJORITY. THE WAY THE LAW IS WRITTEN, IT IS INEFFECTIVE. WE NEED TO DO BETTER AND WE NEED TO END BSL AND ADOPT A MORE REASONABLE LEGISLATION. THANK YOU. MARCY WELCH. I'VE HAD SURGERY RECENTLY, SO MY FORMER STUDENT HERE IS GOING TO KIND OF BE MY ESCORT. I'M MARCY WELCH. I LIVE AT 613 EAST BEVERLY SHERWOOD, ARKANSAS. MY FAMILY HAS LIVED IN THIS TOWN. I'VE LIVED IN THIS TOWN FOR 60 PLUS YEARS. MANY YEARS AGO, MY

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DAD SET RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE. AND I WILL SAY THAT MANY THINGS HAVE CHANGED. MANY THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THAT TIME. BUT ONE THING THAT HAS NOT CHANGED HAS BEEN OUR LOVE FOR ANIMALS AND THE LOVE FOR ANIMALS. FROM IN THE PEOPLE OF SHERWOOD. AND I AM AGAINST THE BREED SPECIFIC LEGISLATION, ESPECIALLY HEARING ABOUT THE LADY WITH THE PTSD, THOSE SITUATIONS. AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, THINGS HAVE HAPPENED IN MY LIFE IN THE PAST TWO YEARS AND I NOW HAVE MYSELF HAVE PTSD, AND I DON'T HAVE A PIT BULL. I'VE GOT CATS. AT THIS TIME, I'M A PET SITTER AND I CANNOT IMAGINE MAKING IT THROUGH DAY BY DAY AND ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT WITHOUT THESE ANIMALS. AND IT BREAKS MY HEART TO HEAR OF THESE PEOPLE WHO WOULD HAVE TO GET RID OF THEIR ANIMALS BECAUSE OF LEGISLATION. AND I WILL SAY, LIKE I MENTIONED, I AM A PET SITTER. I HAVE NEVER AND I PET SAT PIT BULLS. I'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH THEM EVER. I WAS PULLED DOWN BY A GOLDEN RETRIEVER. MY KNEE HAS NEVER BEEN THE SAME. LIKE THE GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE WAS BIT BY A WEENIE DOG AND HAD TO GET. IT WASN'T RABIES SHOTS, BUT I DID HAVE TO GET TETANUS TETANUS SHOTS. SO ANYWAY, I WOULD LIKE. I HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER THIS AND THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER ALL OF THESE TESTIMONIALS THAT HAVE BEEN GIVEN. AND THINK ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE AND WHAT THEY MAY HAVE TO GIVE UP IF THEY HAVE TO GIVE UP THEIR DOGS. THANK YOU. ALYSSA. PRETTY. ALL RIGHT.

TONIGHT I DIDN'T COME WITH AN OVERLY PREPARED SPEECH OR ANYTHING LIKE I NORMALLY DO.

TONIGHT, I WANT YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE FOLKS THAT JUST STOOD UP HERE AND SPOKE. YOU HAVE TEN SHERWOOD RESIDENTS THAT WANT TO REMOVE THE BREED SPECIFIC VERBIAGE. YOU HAVE TWO THAT ARE AGAINST IT. I PERSONALLY HAVE BEEN AT EVERY MEETING SINCE 2001 40 WAS INTRODUCED. I COME EVERY SINGLE MONTH AND LISTEN TO EVERYTHING THAT'S SAID. DURING THAT TIME I HAVE DONE EXTENSIVE RESEARCH BECAUSE IN THE BEGINNING I WAS ALL FOR EXTRA INSURANCE, ALL FOR THE MICROCHIPPING AND HAVING TO HAVE CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS FOR PIT BULLS. BUT AS I'VE DONE MY RESEARCH, WHAT I'VE LEARNED IS THERE ARE SO MANY BREEDS THAT ARE JUST AS OR MORE DANGEROUS THAN PITBULLS THAT WE ALLOW EVERY SINGLE DAY IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO NO LONGER DO I FEEL LIKE PIT BULL OWNERS SHOULD HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH HOOPS IN ORDER TO OWN A DOG. THAT CAN BE LESS DANGEROUS THAN YOUR FAMILY GOLDEN RETRIEVER OR LAB OR GERMAN SHEPHERD CANE CORSO. ALL THOSE DOGS THAT WE ALLOW IN OUR CITY RIGHT NOW. I HAVE SEVERAL YEARS OF RESCUE EXPERIENCE. I HAVE WORKED WITH DOGS, EVERYTHING FROM 3 POUNDS TO 125 POUNDS, AND I HAVE NEVER ONCE HAD AN ISSUE WITH A PIT BULL THAT'S BEEN IN FOSTER CARE, SHELTER SITUATION OR ANYTHING WHERE I'VE DEALT WITH THEM. I LOOKED BACK OVER MY LIFE AND I HAVE BEEN BIT THREE TIMES. ONCE WHEN I WAS A CHILD BY A CHOW MIX. IT BELONGED TO MY AUNT UNCLE. IT WAS A DOG THAT I WAS FAMILIAR WITH, BUT AS A CHILD I MADE A MISTAKE. I REACHED OVER A TABLE TO SMASH A BUG WITH A KLEENEX BOX RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SLEEPING DOG, AND IT GOT MY ARM BROKE. THE SKIN DID NOT HAVE TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL, BUT IT WAS A SEVERE ENOUGH BITE THAT IT UPSET MY MOTHER, OF COURSE. AND THEN AS A RESCUER, I WAS BITTEN IN THE FACE BY A CHIHUAHUA. I WAS LOOKING IN THE BOX AT HER BABIES. I JUST PICKED HER UP THAT DAY, GOT BIT IN THE FACE, AND THE TIME THAT I HAD TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL. BROKEN BONES, RIPPED OFF FLESH. ONE OF OUR PERSONAL DOGS GOT IN A FIGHT WITH A LAB THAT WE WERE FOSTERING, AND IT WAS MY HUSBAND'S SOUL DOG, AND I INSTINCTIVELY TO HELP HER REACH DOWN INTO THAT FIGHT. AND SHE GOT AHOLD OF MY FINGER AND BROKE THE BONE AND TORE THE FLESH. IT WAS A FRENCHIE. IT'S NOT A PIT BULL. IT'S NOT A BIG, VICIOUS DOG. THE PIT BULLS THAT I'VE HAD EXPERIENCE WITH ARE THE MOST TIMID AND MEEK AND MILD AND LOVING DOGS THAT COME THROUGH RESCUE. AND SO I JUST WOULD ASK YOU, PLEASE, MA'AM, YOU HAVE 30S LISTEN TO THE TO THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME TO SPEAK TO YOU, BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE OPPOSED TO THE TO THE BREED HAVE HAD EVERY OPPORTUNITY, JUST LIKE WE HAVE TO COME TO THESE MEETINGS AND TO SPEAK. AND THE LOOKS OF TONIGHT, TEN VERSUS TWO, THE MAJORITY IS DEFINITELY LETTING YOU KNOW WHAT THEY WOULD PREFER. JOSH. PRETTY. I'M JOSH PRETTY. MY WIFE AND I BOTH LIVE

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AT 9880 WILLOWBROOK CIRCLE OR DRIVE. SORRY. MOST OF Y'ALL HERE KNOW ME. MOST EVERYBODY OUT HERE KNOWS WHO I AM. Y'ALL ALSO KNOW THAT I'M STUBBORN. AND YOU ALSO KNOW THAT I DON'T HOLD MY TONGUE VERY WELL. THERE'S SOMETHING SILLY I'M GOING TO TELL YOU. IT'S SILLY, AND THIS IS DUMB.

Y'ALL NEED TO LET THIS GO. IT'S A DOG THAT WE ARE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF OUR DOGS TO THE BITTER END. I JUST LOST THE DOG THAT SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT A WEEK AGO. I'M STILL BROKEN OVER IT. I FELL OFF OF A LADDER THREE YEARS AGO IN NOVEMBER, AND I STILL HAVEN'T GOT LADDERS BANNED.

THAT'S HOW SILLY THIS IS. JOSH, WE NEED TO LET IT GO. AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF YOU ON THIS JURY THAT ARE VOTING FROM THE WRONG PLACE. YOU'RE NOT VOTING FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS. Y'ALL ARE VOTING SOME OF YOU FROM HERE. AND YOU SHOULDN'T DO THAT, BECAUSE THERE'S A TON OF YOUR PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN YOUR WARDS THAT WOULD DISAGREE WITH YOUR VOTE. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. PLEASE GET RID OF IT. IT'S SILLY. LET IT GO. THANK YOU. PENNY. RAY. I'M PENNY. RAY AND I LIVE ON BOBOLINK. IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT PICTURE, THAT'D BE GREAT. AND I JUST WANT TO THANK.

THANK YOU GUYS, FOR PAYING ATTENTION TO US. AND LISTEN TO US TONIGHT. AND REALLY LOOK AROUND AND LOOK AT ALL THE PEOPLE HERE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR ALL THESE MEETINGS FOR TWO YEARS NOW, ASKING YOU TO CHANGE THIS, THIS BE THIS BRAND OF, OF NOT ALLOWING THIS SPECIFIC BREED. AND I APPRECIATE THE ONES THAT ARE SITTING OVER HERE THAT ARE ACTUALLY PAYING ATTENTION TO EVERYBODY WHO'S TALKING. I APPRECIATE THAT, AND TO YOU FOR LISTENING TO ALL OF US. YOU KNOW, SOME OF YOU RAN ON ON THAT SPECIFIC THING. YOU SAID THAT YOU WOULD ALLOW IT, THAT YOU WERE READY FOR THE CHANGE. AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL STAND BY THAT. YOU KNOW, CESAR MILLAN, WHO I WATCH A LOT. HE SAYS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T TRAIN PEOPLE, I TRAIN PEOPLE. I REHABILITATE DOGS, AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE PEOPLE, NOT THE DOGS. THE DOGS ARE. I HAVE A DAUGHTER WHO HAS A PITBULL. HAVE A GRANDDAUGHTER WHO HAS A PITBULL. MY DAUGHTER, WHEN SHE WAS SIX YEARS OLD, WAS ATTACKED BY A CHIHUAHUA OVER 200 STITCHES IN HER FACE AT SIX YEARS OLD. NOT BECAUSE SHE DID ANYTHING TO THE DOG, SHE JUST REACHED DOWN TO PET IT. SO ALL DOGS WILL BITE. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE BREED IS, BUT YOU GUYS, SOME OF YOU PEOPLE ARE VOTING BECAUSE OF WHAT YOUR BELIEFS ARE. YOU GUYS WERE VOTED IN BY THESE PEOPLE RIGHT HERE.

YOU KNOW, LISTEN TO THESE PEOPLE. THESE ARE THE ONES WHO VOTE YOU IN, AND THEY'RE ALSO THE ONES WHO WILL VOTE YOU OUT. YOU KNOW, THESE PEOPLE WANT THIS THIS BAN THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR HOW MANY YEARS NOW TO BE LIFTED. YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS HAVE SET UP NEW NEW RULES THAT ARE GREAT. GIVE THEM A CHANCE. YOU KNOW THAT THE PITS ARE ALREADY IN THE CITY. THEY'VE BEEN IN THE CITY FOR YEARS. OUR OUR SHELTERS ARE OVERRUN WITH DOGS THAT CAN'T GET ADOPTED.

LOOK AT HASH BROWN, WHO WAS THERE FOR TWO YEARS. GET ADOPTED BECAUSE HE HAD A SQUARE FACE AND HE REALLY DIDN'T EVEN LOOK LIKE A PIT. HE JUST LOOKED LIKE HE MIGHT HAVE HAD PIT IN HIM, BUT HE COULDN'T GET ADOPTED FOR TWO YEARS. SO HE SET IN A CAGE BECAUSE A FEW OF YOU WON'T CHANGE YOUR MIND, OR WON'T EVEN PAY ATTENTION TO THE PEOPLE HERE THAT ARE WANTING YOU TO LISTEN AND CHANGE. AND, YOU KNOW, GET WITH THE TIMES. YOU KNOW, THESE DOGS SHOULDN'T BE PUNISHED BECAUSE OF 1 OR 2 BITES. WE ARE WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR CITY. YOU HAVE 30S, MA'AM, NOT THE OTHER CITIES THAT ARE AROUND US, BUT OUR CITY HERE. AND THESE PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN PATIENT ENOUGH FOR TWO YEARS TO SIT HERE AND STAND HERE AND EMAIL YOU AND COME TO ALL THESE MEETINGS AND, AND GO OUT THERE AND, AND SPEND ALL THEIR TIME DOING RESEARCH BECAUSE THEY WANT THE RULES CHANGED. WE WANT YOU TO GIVE THEM A CHANCE. AND THAT'S ALL WE ASK IS THAT YOU GIVE US OUR YOUR VOTE. YES. LET THE BREED'S BE IN SHERWOOD. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S EVERYONE WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. COUNCIL MEMBER TREAT, WE'LL START WITH YOU. WE HAVE A QUICK VIDEO. THAT CAMERON'S GONNA PLAY FOR. I'VE ADOPTED FOUR PITBULLS OVER THE PAST 17 YEARS FROM THE LITTLE ROCK SHELTER. THEY ALL BECOME MY BEST FRIENDS, AND I. I LOVE THESE

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DOGS SO, SO MUCH. WHEN I SAY I WALK PITBULLS, THIS IS WHAT I MEAN. I MEAN, WE GO OUT IN THE YARD, WE SNUGGLE, WE TAKE SELFIES, A SMOOCH AND HUG ON EM, AND I CAN CONFIDENTLY SAY THAT I HAVE WALKED HUNDREDS OF STRAY SHELTER PITBULLS. OUT.

I THINK SHE'S GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO ME. YOU OKAY? NO, WE'RE NOT OKAY. DO YOU WANT ME TO MOVE ON TO CALLIE? GIVE ME A YEAH. OKAY. SO. PERSON. OH. WHAT? OH, SHE AND MISS CULPEPPER THAT YOU WANTED TO ASK? DID YOU WANT HER TO TALK FIRST AND THEN KIM? OKAY, OKAY. OKAY. SO THE NEWLY PROPOSED ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE IS INTENDED TO KEEP OUR CITIZENS, HUMANS AND ANIMALS SAFE. THE PREVIOUS ORDINANCE THAT BANS SPECIFIC BREED IS UNENFORCEABLE. DOESN'T DO ANYTHING EXCEPT SHOW PERSONAL BIAS AGAINST PITBULLS AND BULLY BREEDS. ALL OF THE DISCUSSION THAT'S HAPPENED UP TO THIS POINT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT SHERWOOD CITIZENS HAVE PITBULLS.

LET ME GET EMOTIONAL TO NOW, BASED ON WHAT I HAVE PERSONALLY OBSERVED IN MY WARD, JUST IN MY WARD, THEY'RE WALKING ON OUR STREETS. THEY'RE TAKEN TO THE DOG PARKS. THEY'RE CONFIDENT IN DOING SO BECAUSE AS THEY'VE HEARD OUR DISCUSSIONS, THEY REALIZE THE POLICE CAN'T DO ANYTHING. THE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO STOP THEM. OUR INTENTION WITH THE NEW ORDINANCE IS NOT JUST TO LIFT THE BAN ON PITBULLS. IT'S ALSO TO GIVE THE SHERWOOD ANIMAL CONTROL THE ABILITY TO IMMEDIATELY SEIZE AND IMPOUND ANY VICIOUS OR AGGRESSIVE DOG, NO MATTER THE BREED. MAKE SURE THAT THE DOG OWNER IS HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR ACTIONS OF THEIR ANIMAL. AS THE POLICE CHIEF TOLD ME EARLIER TODAY, IT'S EASIER TO DOCUMENT AND TESTIFY IN COURT WHEN THEY HAVE ACTUALLY DONE SOMETHING AT THAT MOMENT. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYONE TO CHANGE HOW THEY PERSONALLY FEEL ABOUT PITBULLS OR ANY BREED. WE ARE ASKING FOR YOU TO JUST STEP BACK FROM YOUR EMOTIONS ABOUT A SPECIFIC BREED. KEEP THE SAFETY OF OUR CITIZENS AT THE FRONT OF YOUR MIND WITH REGARDS TO ALL VICIOUS OR AGGRESSIVE DOGS AND THE OWNERS WHO HAVE THEM. THERE WAS A DOG THAT LIVED DOWN THE STREET FROM MY MOM THAT WASN'T A PITBULL. HE THREATENED MY MOM.

HE THREATENED ANY VISITOR THAT CAME TO HER HOUSE. HE CAME DOWN TO THE BACK BEHIND MY YARD, BARKED AND AGGRESSIVELY AT MY DOGS. I HAD VIDEO THAT I SHOWED ANIMAL CONTROL, CALLED THEM PROBABLY 4 OR 5 TIMES, AS DID ALL OF MY NEIGHBORS. NOTHING COULD BE DONE UNTIL THEY GOT IT PUSHED UP THE LINE. AND THIS WAS 4 OR 5 YEARS AGO. OUR JOB AS COUNCIL IS TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS WITH THE DECISIONS WE MAKE, AND WE'RE JUST ASKING TO YOU TO CAREFULLY CONSIDER THE FACTS WITHIN THIS ORDINANCE. YOU'RE NOT JUST VOTING TO LIFT A BAN ON A SPECIFIC BREED. LIKE I SAID, YOU'RE VOTING TO GIVE THE CONFIDENCE IN OUR ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS SO THEY HAVE ACTUAL AUTHORITY AND THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE AGGRESSIVE AND VICIOUS DOG ORDINANCE FOR ALL BREEDS TO HELP OUR CITIZENS IN THIS CITY. FIRST, I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR GETTING EMOTIONAL. IS STILL THAT EMOTION COMES FROM ONE OF OUR SPEAKERS THAT SPOKE AND A PERSONAL STORY OF MINE. SO IT JUST HIT HOME. ANYWAY, WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN A LOT OF FACTUAL INFORMATION OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS. FACTS REGARDING MISIDENTIFIED ANIMALS. FACTS REGARDING SPECIFIC DOGS, ATTACKS WITHIN OUR CITY, FACTS REGARDING CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS REGARDING RISK OF DEATH, REGARDING NON RESPONSIBLE OWNERSHIP OF ANIMALS. STATEMENTS OF HOW HARD IT IS THAT OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE IS TO ENFORCE. I WANT TO REITERATE TO EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM THAT I AM NOT ADVOCATING FOR ALLOWING DANGEROUS DOGS IN OUR CITY. RATHER, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD REMOVE THE BREED SPECIFIC LANGUAGE FROM OUR ORDINANCE AND FOCUS ON CREATING A COMPREHENSIVE SECTION ON VICIOUS ANIMALS THAT APPLY TO ALL SPECIES. THIS SECTION SHOULD BE THOROUGHLY PROTECT OUR CITIZENS.

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IT WILL PROMOTE RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERSHIP AND BE SOMETHING THAT OUR DEPARTMENTS CAN EFFECTIVELY ENFORCE. AS WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY STATED, THE TERM PITBULL IS NOT A SPECIFIC BREED, BUT RATHER AN UMBRELLA TERM THAT IS APPLIED TO SEVERAL BREEDS AND MIXED BREED OF DOGS THAT SHARE CERTAIN PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS. BECAUSE OF THIS, THIS LEADS TO CONFUSION AND FREQUENT MISIDENTIFICATION. BREEDS COMMONLY LABELED AS PITBULL TYPES INCLUDES THOSE THAT WE HAVE IN OUR ORDINANCE. IT DOES NOT, HOWEVER, IN OUR ORDINANCE INCLUDE BOSTON TERRIERS, BOXERS, MASTIFFS, ALL OF WHICH ALSO HAVE THOSE PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS. ALL OF THEM TEND TO BE DIFFERENT SIZE, BUT THEY ARE MUSCULAR BUILD. THEY'VE GOT BROAD SHOULDERS, A SQUARE SHAPED HEAD BECAUSE THOSE TRAITS CAN BE FOUND IN ANY MIXED BREED OF DOGS. VISUAL MISIDENTIFICATION IS COMMON EVEN AMONG OUR PROFESSIONALS. THIS MAKES BREED SPECIFIC LANGUAGE IN LOCAL ORDINANCE VERY PROBLEMATIC, AS DOGS MAY BE UNFAIRLY RESTRICTED OR REMOVED BASED SOLELY ON THEIR APPEARANCE RATHER THAN THE BEHAVIOR OR THE ACTUAL BREED LINEAGE. OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE DOES NOT INCLUDE MANY OF THE DOGS THAT WERE LISTED IN THE POLICE REPORT SUMMARY THAT I PROVIDED YOU LAST MONTH. WE DO NOT HEAR OF NEWS REPORTS OF DOG ATTACKS UNLESS IT IS OF ONE CONTROVERSIAL BREED UMBRELLA TERM PITBULL. A MORE EFFECTIVE AND EQUITABLE APPROACH TO THIS WOULD BE TO REMOVE THE BREED SPECIFIC LANGUAGE AND INSTEAD FOCUS ON A COMPREHENSIVE, VICIOUS ANIMAL PROVISIONS THAT APPLY TO EVERY ANIMAL, WHETHER IT IS A CHIHUAHUA, A DACHSHUND, A GERMAN SHEPHERD, A PIT MIX, A HUSKY, WHATEVER IT IS. THIS WAY, NO MATTER THE BREED, SHOULD ANY ANIMAL WITHIN OUR CITY LIMITS SHOW ANY TYPE OF ADVERSARY BEHAVIOR, IT CAN BE HANDLED APPROPRIATELY UNDER A VICIOUS ANIMAL ORDINANCE, AND SUCH AN APPROACH PROMOTES AGAIN, RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERSHIP, PROTECTS OUR PUBLIC SAFETY OF ALL OF OUR CITIZENS, AND ENSURES ORDINANCE THAT CAN BE FAIRLY AND CONSISTENTLY ENFORCED BY OUR POLICE AND ANIMAL CONTROL DEPARTMENTS. AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK CAROL CULPEPPER TO COME UP. SHE IS A DOG BEHAVIORAL SPECIALIST AND A TRAINING CONSULTANT TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION. AND I WAS ASKED TO COME TONIGHT, AND I WANT TO PARROT ALL THE THANKS FOR YOU GUYS AND EVERYONE. MY HEART GOES OUT TO EVERYBODY. YOU REALLY I CAN UNDERSTAND EVERYONE'S PERSPECTIVE AND WE ALL HAVE A DIFFERENT ONE. AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF PERSPECTIVES OVER DECADES OF WORKING WITH PEOPLES AND THEIR ANIMALS. PEOPLE DON'T NECESSARILY MISTREAT THE ANIMAL BECAUSE THEY'RE INTENDING, BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE KNOWLEDGE, THEY'RE NOT INFORMED, AND THEY DO THINGS THAT MAKE THE DOG DANGEROUS. AND OTHER ANIMALS. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE ARTICULATION OF THE YOU, THE WAY YOU'VE YOU'VE COME TO THIS AGGRESSION IS NOT A DOG, IS THERE ARE VERY FEW AGGRESSIVE DOGS, BUT ANY DOG WILL BEHAVE AGGRESSIVELY UNDER THE CORRECT. IT WILL THEIR DOGS, THEIR ANIMALS AND PERIOD. SO I'M NOT GOING TO SAY MUCH MORE BECAUSE IT'S SO MUCH HAS BEEN SAID. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT WOULD HELP YOU GUYS, I ENCOURAGE YOU NOT TO HANG ON TIGHT TO YOUR PERSPECTIVES BECAUSE YOU KNOW, MINE ISN'T PERFECT AND IT'S GOING TO CHANGE TOMORROW. HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY WE'RE ALL GETTING BETTER AND SEEING THINGS. TRUTH. THAT'S MY HERO. TRUTH, RIGHT? AND JUSTICE. AND WE DO NEED LAWS THAT ARE TOOLS THAT WE CAN HOLD UP JUSTICE. WE NEED THE LEGISLATURE TO ENABLE JUSTICE TO BE SERVED SHOULD A TRAGEDY OCCUR. AND YOU KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO BECAUSE I'M SORRY, HUMAN NATURE DOES HAVE EFFECT IN THIS. HUMAN NATURE IS NOT PERFECT IN EVERYONE, INCLUDING ME. GUILTY. BUT WE NEED ACCOUNTABILITY AND DOG OWNERS. ANY ANIMAL OWNER AND I ANIMALS, PERIOD. EVERY ANIMAL.

IT IS A PRIVILEGE. THEY ARE GIFTS AND IT IS A PRIVILEGE TO TAKE INTO YOUR CARE AND OBSERVE AND ENJOY. AND THEY SAVE LIVES. THEY REALLY DO. AND BUT YOU NEED TO KNOW YOUR DOG. YOU NEED TO KNOW THE DOG THAT BIT THE YOUNG BOYS TO ME IMMEDIATELY THE DOG WAS HUNGRY. I WOULD NEVER LET A CHILD BE AROUND A HUNGRY DOG, EVER. THAT'S NOT INFORMED. AND PARDON MY PASSION, BUT A DOG IS.

THEY'RE ANIMALS. THEY CANNOT REASON LIKE WE CAN. THEY DON'T HAVE THE COGNITIVE ABILITIES.

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AND WE'VE GOT TO QUIT PROJECTING OUR EXPERIENCE AND ABILITIES IF WE WANT TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION. BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO DO. AND YOU CAN TELL WHAT A PITBULL IS GOING TO DO, BUT YOU HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO READ BODY LANGUAGE. AND IF YOU DON'T, YOU SHOULDN'T OWN A DOG. CAN YOU SPEAK TO YOUR EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH A NON PIT BREED DOG THAT IS NOT THAT? HAS THAT YOU HAVE SEEN THAT IS NOT REHABILITATED? THERE HAVE ONLY BEEN TWO. AND CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? YES, SPEAK TO THAT. THAT'S OKAY. YES. YEAH I APOLOGIZE I'M IT'S MY FIRST MEETING AND I'M ASHAMED OF MYSELF. I PARTLY CAME OUT OF A SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE IF I DIDN'T TRY TO HELP BEAT WHAT? RIGHT AND TRUE. BUT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, I'VE WORKED WITH ANIMALS FOR ABOUT 35. I'VE TRAINED TIGERS, I'VE TRAINED HORSES, I'VE TRAINED. I'VE BEEN SO BLESSED WITH SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO LEARN ABOUT ANIMALS. NO ONE LOVES ANIMALS MORE THAN ME. THE ONLY TWO DOGS I EVER RECOMMENDED EUTHANIZED. ONE WAS A 12 POUND PUGGLE TORE OPEN ITS OWNERS. I WORKED WITH IT FOR A MONTH AND I COULD NOT BECAUSE IT WAS SPOILED FOR SIX YEARS. SHE DIDN'T DO IT ON PURPOSE, BUT SHE ENABLED THIS DOG TO CHOOSE AGGRESSION BECAUSE IT WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR THAT DOG TO GET WHAT IT WANTED. PERIOD. THEY THEIR INSTINCT AND SIMPLE PREFERENCE. THEY'RE VERY OPPORTUNISTIC. I LOVE THEM MORE THAN ANYONE. BUT THAT'S A DOG. THEY'RE AN ANIMAL AND IF THEY CAN GET WHAT THEY WANT, THEY WILL. AND THE BIGGER THE DOG AND THE MORE THAT ARE KEPT TOGETHER, THE MORE RESPONSIBILITY PEOPLE HAVE TO HAVE ADEQUATE ENCLOSURES. AND TO TRAIN, YOU MUST TRAIN A LARGE DOG OR SOMEONE'S GOING TO GET HURT. YOU CAN'T ALLOW IT TO BE IN ITS NATURAL STATE AND EXPECT TO LET A CHILD COME AND FEED IT. THAT'S THAT'S NOT INFORMED. ALL RIGHT.

IS THERE DID YOU HAVE ANY ANY OTHER. NO. THANK YOU SO MUCH. DID YOU HAVE. THANK YOU. YES. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK DOCTOR HOLLY TO COME JOIN US. PROBABLY MANY OF YOU KNOW HER. SHE'S BEEN OUR VET FOR OVER 20 YEARS. SHE WORKED AT NORTH HILLS ANIMAL CLINIC AND THEN KILL AVENUE. SHE IS BELOVED IN THE CITY OF SHERWOOD, AND WE'RE SO GRATEFUL TO HAVE HER HERE. DOCTOR. HOLLY.

HOLLY, AMY, HOLLY H A W L E Y AND I APOLOGIZE, I HAVE TO READ THIS BECAUSE PUBLIC SPEAKING MAKES ME WANT TO THROW UP. SO I'M NOT TRYING TO BE IMPERSONAL. I'M JUST TRYING NOT TO EMBARRASS MYSELF. AND I AM THE RENEGADE THAT LIVES IN SCOTT BECAUSE I HAVE TO MOVE TO ARKANSAS IN 2004 AND LIVED IN SHERWOOD, LIVED IN SHERWOOD AND WORKED IN SHERWOOD FOR 15 YEARS. BUT I HAVE A PIT BULL, SO I'M NOT WELCOME IN SHERWOOD. SO I LIVE IN SCOTT, WHICH IS FINE. I LOVE SCOTT, IT'S BEAUTIFUL OUT THERE, BUT THAT'S WHY I'M IN SCOTT. BUT HERE. SO MY NAME IS DOCTOR AMY HOLLY. I'VE BEEN A LOCAL VETERINARIAN FOR THE PAST 21 YEARS. AS MONICA SAID, MY FIRST 11 YEARS WERE AT NORTH HILLS ANIMAL HOSPITAL IN SHERWOOD. THEN I SPENT FIVE YEARS AT KIEL AVENUE ANIMAL CLINIC IN SHERWOOD. CURRENTLY, I'M THE OWNER OF SOMERS AVENUE ANIMAL CLINIC IN NORTH LITTLE ROCK. I ALSO DO A VACCINE CLINIC FOR ARKANSANS FOR ANIMALS, WHERE I EXAMINE AND VACCINATE HUNDREDS OF DOGS, MOST OF THEM FROM LOW INCOME FAMILIES. SO, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, I HAVE COME IN CONTACT WITH THOUSANDS OF PITBULLS AND TRULY, MY LOVE FOR THE BREED HAS ONLY GROWN OVER THE YEARS. BASED ON MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES AS A BREED. AND I CAN SPEAK TO MY OWN DOG, MARTHA, WHO IS FULL PIT BASED ON A DNA TEST. BUT IN GENERAL, AS A BREED, THEY TEND TO BE SILLY. THEY'RE GOOFY, THEY'RE PLAYFUL, THEY HAVE THE BIGGEST HEARTS, AND THEY OFTEN HAVE THE BIGGEST SMILES. LITERALLY. THEY'RE ONE OF THE FEW DOGS THAT DO SMILE DESPITE THEIR SIZE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GETS THEM IN TROUBLE IS THAT, LIKE MYSELF, THEY WERE BLESSED WITH ANXIETY BUCKET LOADS OF IT. THE VAST MAJORITY OF PIT BULL DOGS CAN BE WON OVER WITH TREATS, A SWEET VOICE, LOTS OF PRAISE. PLEASE DO NOT YELL AT THEM. THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT. THEY JUST WANT TO MAKE THEIR PEOPLE HAPPY. THEY HAVE ZERO INTEREST IN BEING INDEPENDENT OR SELF-SUFFICIENT. THEY'RE BIG BABIES AND IN MY HANDS AND I GIVE REALLY, REALLY GOOD SHOTS BECAUSE I HATE SHOTS. IF ANYBODY'S GOING TO CRY AFTER A SHOT, IT'S GOING TO BE A PIT

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BULL. THEY'RE JUST BABIES AND I LOVE THEM SO MUCH FOR IT. DON'T GET ME WRONG, THEY CAN BE FIERCELY PROTECTIVE. THE AKC CONSIDERS THEM GUARD DOGS, BUT THEIR GOAL IS TO GUARD THEIR PEOPLE, AND IF THEY CAN TELL THEIR PEOPLE ARE FINE, THEY WILL STAND DOWN IN A HEARTBEAT. THEY DO NOT WANT TO FIGHT, THEY JUST WANT TO KEEP THEIR FAMILY HAPPY AND TOGETHER. PITBULLS CURRENTLY ARE THE MOST POPULAR DOG BREED IN THE UNITED STATES. THERE'S OVER A MILLION OF THEM IN HOUSEHOLDS IN THE US. ONE OF THE STUDIES I FOUND SAID THAT THEY WERE THE SEVENTH MOST POPULAR BREED. THAT VARIES BASED ON WHO'S DOING THAT STUDY, BUT THEY'RE IN THE TOP TEN FOR THE PAST DECADE. ANOTHER SURVEY REVEALED THAT 71% OF PITBULL OWNERS CONSIDER THEIR DOGS PART OF THE FAMILY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER 29% OF PEOPLE ARE DOING. BUT I WAS. I WATCHED LAST MONTH'S MEETING, AND LAST MONTH YOU GUYS TALKED A WHOLE LOT ABOUT DNA. DOG BREEDS ARE NOT JUST A LOOK OR EVEN A DNA TEST. LESS THAN 1% OF A DOG'S GENETIC MAKEUP DETERMINES HOW IT LOOKS.

THAT IS VERY, VERY, VERY LITTLE OF THEIR GENETIC CODE. ONLY 9% OF A DOG'S BEHAVIORAL TRAITS CAN BE GENETICALLY ATTRIBUTED TO THEIR BREED. THAT'S PROVEN IN RESEARCH STUDIES, CONFIRMS THAT BREED HAS MINIMAL IMPACT ON BEHAVIOR. A STUDY IN 2022 REVEALED THAT 70% OF AMERICANS OPPOSE BREED SPECIFIC BANS. MOST IMPORTANTLY TO ME, AND THIS SHOCKED ME, 4% OF US CITIES AND TOWNS ENFORCE BREED SPECIFIC LEGISLATION IN THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES. THAT'S 800, INCLUDING SHERWOOD, 800. THERE ARE 22 STATES IN THE UNITED STATES THAT HAVE MADE IT ILLEGAL TO ENFORCE BREED SPECIFIC LEGISLATION. ONE OF THE THINGS I LOVED ABOUT SHERWOOD WHEN I LIVED HERE IS THAT WE ARE PROGRESSIVE, FRIENDLY. I LOVED THE CITY OF SHERWOOD. THERE IS NO WAY I CAN IMAGINE SHERWOOD BEING PART OF A 4% THAT IS RAPIDLY DROPPING. THERE IS NOTHING MOVING FASTER IN THE UNITED STATES THAN DROPPING BREED SPECIFIC LEGISLATION. PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE IN REPEATED STUDIES BY THE CDC AND THE AMERICAN VETERINARY MEDICAL ASSOCIATION, BREED DOES NOT HAVE ANY EFFECT ON PREDICTABILITY OF BITES. THE CDC USED TO DO THAT STUDY EVERY YEAR. THEY QUIT DOING IT 20 YEARS AGO BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T PROVE ANY RELEVANCE TO IT AT ALL. THEY QUIT DOING IT. THERE WAS A REALLY FUN STUDY I JUST FOUND IN GERMANY. THE VETERINARY SCHOOL THERE DID A HUGE RESEARCH STUDY WHERE THEY TOOK THE TOP BREED SPECIFIC LEGISLATION BREEDS AND PUT THEM THROUGH A VARIETY OF INTERACTIONS TO TEST WHEN AND IF THEY WOULD SHOW AGGRESSION. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CONTROL GROUP FOR ANY GOOD STUDY. THEIR CONTROL GROUP WAS GOLDEN RETRIEVERS BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS THEY'RE HAPPY. THEY'RE THE SWEETEST DOGS IN THE WORLD. 80 GOLDEN RETRIEVERS. THIS STUDY FOUND THAT GOLDEN RETRIEVERS WERE JUST AS LIKELY TO SHOW AGGRESSION AS BULLY BREEDS. THE CAVEAT TO THAT IS THAT NEITHER GROUP SHOWED MUCH AGGRESSION. I THINK ONE GROUP WAS 96%, ONE GROUP WAS 98%. SO IT WAS REALLY, REALLY HARD TO EVEN FORCE BULLY BREEDS OR GOLDEN RETRIEVERS TO SHOW AGGRESSION. TRULY, IN MY OPINION, PITBULLS HAVE AN IMAGE PROBLEM MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. WHEN THE NEWS HIGHLIGHTS A BITE THAT INVOLVES A PIT, THEY USE THE PICTURE OF THE FIGHTING DOG. WE'VE ALL SEEN IT. BIG MUSCLES HUNCHED LOW TO THE GROUND, CROPPED EARS, BIG OLD THICK STUDDED COLLAR. IT'S JUST NOT ACCURATE. IT DOESN'T REPRESENT THE POPULATION OF DOGS THAT ARE OWNED, BUT IT'S COMPELLING.

STIRS EMOTIONS. WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE, I RESEARCHED THE ANIMAL RIGHTS MOVEMENT, DID A WHOLE BIG RESEARCH PROJECT ABOUT THE ANIMAL RIGHTS MOVEMENT AND ANIMAL WELFARE, AND IT WAS PROVEN THAT THE SUCCESS OF PETA IN THE 1990S WAS IN LARGE PART BECAUSE THEY CHOSE BUNNY RABBITS AS THEIR SPOKESMAN WAS COMPELLING TO SEE FLUFFY, ADORABLE BUNNY RABBITS ON A BILLBOARD WITH AN EYE THAT WAS BLEEDING. IF THEY HAD CHOSEN PICTURES OF MICE OR RATS, IT'S PRETTY UNLIKELY THAT ANYONE WOULD CARE ABOUT COSMETIC TESTING ON ANIMALS OR WEARING

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FUR. IT'S BECAUSE PETA CHOSE BUNNY RABBITS. I THINK THE SAME THING HAPPENED WITH PITBULLS IN THE LAST DECADE. WE MADE THEM LOOK SCARY. SO THE PUBLIC THRIVES ON SCARY. ANYBODY WHO'S EVER KNOWN PITBULLS KNOWS THAT'S NOT THE WAY THEY ARE. I FOUND A SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS. I WOULD ASK THAT SINCE THERE ARE SO MANY, THAT IF YOU DO NOT LIVE IN THE CITY OF SHERWOOD, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU. ALLOW THOSE THAT ARE RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK ON IT, BECAUSE WE HAVE 1918 PEOPLE SAID 18 SIGNED UP. MAYOR, WILL YOU TELL US HOW MANY ARE NON SHERWOOD RESIDENTS? I JUST GLANCED DOWN AND SAW A COUPLE. SO. MOONSTONE? YES. OKAY, LET ME LOOK OVER. THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT SURE WHAT THIS ONE. IS THAT I HAVE HERE WE SPEAK. YES. LEFT SIDE. MEETING SOON. YES. YES. SCOTT'S NOT MET UP. YES OF COURSE. YES. YEP. WE JUST HAVE ONE. CLARIFICATION IF I CAN. YES. I CAN'T READ THIS LAST NAME. IT'S KEITH AND BEGINS WITH THE W. THAT'S KEITH WEBER, JACKSONVILLE. THAT'S JACKSONVILLE OKAY OKAY. BUT HE SAID SIR IT SAYS NOT SPEAKING.

CORRECT OKAY OKAY. IS THE IS DO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT TO ALLOW THEN THAT WOULD BE 16. OR DO YOU WANT TO ALLOW THE 17. IF THE NON SHERWOOD RESIDENT WE JUST NEED TO KNOW HOW TO PROCEED. WELL I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE THING. I HAD SOMEONE EMAIL ME TODAY AND I HAD ASKED CHARLOTTE AND STEVE TO PASS THE EMAIL ALONG BECAUSE SHE TRIED TO EMAIL EVERYBODY. SHE SAID SOME OF THEM GOT KICKED BACK, BUT SO I DIDN'T WANT TO PASS IT ALONG BECAUSE SHE SAID SHE COULDN'T.

SHE DIDN'T WANT TO COME TONIGHT BECAUSE SHE THOUGHT BEING A NON SHERWOOD RESIDENT, SHE WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK. SO OKAY, FOR CLARITY, THE PERSON THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING HERE IS A GUEST SPEAKER OF MINE. SO WE CAN JUST MARK THAT OFF THE LIST AND I CAN CALL THEM UP. PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. THERE YOU GO. THERE YOU GO. PERFECT. THE ONE FROM SCOTT. SO JUST DISREGARD. JUST MARK THAT OFF. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO THE SPONSORS OF THE ORDINANCE. COUNCIL MEMBER TREE FLOOR IS YOURS. WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE SPEAKERS TO BE ABLE TO COME UP FIRST AND THEN US SPEAK ON IT AFTER THEM. IS THAT A GOOD WORKFLOW? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ALL OR YOUR THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'VE ASKED INVITED TO COME UP THERE? YOU'D LIKE THE GUESTS TO SPEAK FIRST? YES. ALL RIGHT. THIS LIST OR YES, THAT LIST. PUBLIC COMMENT LIST FIRST. ALL RIGHT. LET ME GET SITUATED. AARON VICKERS. IF YOU HAPPEN TO SIGN UP, IF YOU PLEASE COME ON UP. IF YOU THOUGH SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AND YOU KNOW, YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, IF YOU COULD MAKE YOUR WAY OVER TO THE WALL SO THAT WE CAN QUICKLY TRANSITION WHEN YOU COME UP TO SPEAK, LET ME JUST REMIND EVERYBODY, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. YOU WILL GET THREE MINUTES AND THAT WILL BE KEPT BY OUR CITY ATTORNEY. WE ASK FROM THE AUDIENCE, PLEASE, NO CLAPPING, NO CHEERING, NO BOOING. PLEASE KEEP YOUR RESPONSE. LET'S BE RESPECTFUL TO EVERYONE, NO MATTER WHAT THEIR POSITIONS ARE. I KNOW THAT THIS IS AN EMOTIONAL ISSUE. YES, MA'AM. GO AHEAD. TIME BEGIN. READY? YES. HI, I'M AARON VICKERS. I LIVE ON RIDGEWOOD OVER JUST OFF HATCHER ROAD. SO I PASSED AROUND PAMPHLETS FOR EVERYBODY. IT'S ACTUALLY A STORY THAT WAS DONE NOT IN THIS LOCATION, BUT IT'S A DOG THAT I RESCUED MYSELF. YEAH, WE'LL START THERE. I WANTED TO SHOW WHAT SHERWOOD IS MISSING OUT ON BY NOT ALLOWING PITBULLS TO BE IN THE CITY. THE FIRST ONE IS FREEDOM. NOT ONLY FREEDOM TO OWN LOYAL ANIMALS, BUT ALSO THE FREEDOM TO FEEL ALIVE AGAIN. YOU'LL UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS THERE AT THE END. ONCE I FINISH SECOND IS A REDUCTION IN EUTHANIZATION RATES AND POTENTIALLY A REDUCTION OF VETERAN SUICIDES THAT WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY AS A WHOLE. THIRD IS THE INCREASE IN MENTAL HEALTH

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AND THE FUNDING TO MANY OF THE STRUGGLING ANIMAL RESCUES THAT WE HAVE IN THIS CITY. SO THE STORY ITSELF IS ABOUT A DOG NAMED DOTTIE. SHE WAS ABANDONED AND SCARED TWO AND A HALF YEAR OLD. PITY. WHEN I TOOK HER HOME, SHE HATED MEN, SHE HATED KIDS. SHE HATED OTHER ANIMALS. NOBODY COULD GET NEAR HER BUT ME. I DON'T HAVE PROFESSIONAL TRAINING. IT ONLY TOOK ME TWO WEEKS. THIS ANIMAL LOVED EVERY SINGLE CHILD THAT CAME INTO MY HOUSE. EVERY MAN THAT CAME IN MY HOUSE. NOT THAT WAY. JUST LETTING YOU KNOW. NOT THAT WAY, I PROMISE. AND ANY OTHER DOG THAT WAS IN MY HOUSE, MY, MY TRUE DOG, MY BOXER, I THINK ACTUALLY BROUGHT THAT OUT OF HER. AND TWO WEEKS IS ALL IT TOOK. SHE WAS ADOPTED BY A THREE TIME IRAQI WAR VETERAN. HE WAS IN THE MILITARY. HE WAS SECURITY FORCES. HE WOULD SLEEP ON A COT IN FRONT OF HIS FRONT DOOR. FOR SEVEN YEARS. HE WENT THROUGH MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS, SEVEN YEARS OF PTSD AND NOT BEING ABLE TO SLEEP IN THE SAME BED AS HIS WIFE. WITHIN THE FIRST MONTH OF DOTTIE GOING INTO HIS HOME, SHE REALIZED THE ISSUES THAT HE WAS HAVING. AND ONE MONTH IT TOOK AND HE SLEPT IN THE BED FOR THE FIRST TIME IN FIVE YEARS WITH HIS FIANCEE. THAT STORY ALONE WAS PUT ON PETCO, THAT THEY GIVE 700 AND SOME THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR IN FOUNDATION FUNDS, THAT RESCUE ONE $25,000 OFF HIS STORY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. DARLA EWING. YES, MA'AM. I'M DARLA EWING, AND I LIVE AT 8008 NORTH CLAREMONT. I HOPE I CAN DO THIS OUT CRYING. I APOLOGIZE IF I DO. A YEAR AGO THIS PAST JANUARY. MY HUSBAND GOT VERY PHYSICALLY, EMOTIONALLY ABUSIVE TO ME. HE SLAMMED HIM DOWN AND CRACKED TWO OF MY RIBS. WELL, LUCKILY WE DIDN'T LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS AND WE HAVE A PIT BULL. AND WHEN HE FOUND OUT THAT SHE WOULD ATTACK HIM EVERY TIME THAT HE CAME NEAR ME, HE WOULD MAKE HE WOULD LOCK HER OUTSIDE OR IN THE BEDROOM TO KEEP US APART SO SHE COULD. SO HE COULDN'T GET NEAR ME. HE WOULD LOCK HER UP. SO FINALLY, WHEN SHE LEARNED THAT WHEN HE WAS GOING TO HIT ME IN HIS ATTITUDE WHEN HE CAME HOME, SHE WOULD GET IN MY LAP IN THE RECLINER AND LAY WITH ME UNTIL I WENT TO BED SO HE WOULDN'T BEAT ME ANYMORE. SINCE THEN, I MOVED OUT AND I'D LIKE TO MOVE IN THE CITY LIMITS, BUT I CAN'T BRING HER WITH. I MEAN, I LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS, BUT I CAN'T BRING HER WITH ME AND I'M SCARED TO DEATH HE'S GOING TO FIND ME, AND I JUST WANT HER WITH ME BECAUSE SHE CAN PROTECT ME. BUT SHE'S A PIT BULL AND SHE'S BANNED. I'M SORRY, Y'ALL. THANK YOU. ROBERT TAYLOR. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS ROBERT TAYLOR. I'M AGAINST THE ORDINANCE. I'VE. I'VE SPOKEN BEFORE. MY EX-WIFE SHOWED Y'ALLS PICTURES OF OUR SON. NEXT MONTH WOULD BE FIVE YEARS SINCE HE'S BEEN KILLED BY TWO PITBULLS IN FAULKNER COUNTY. LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IT'S ON YOUR HANDS. IT'S Y'ALL'S RESPONSIBILITY TO VOTE THIS IN OR AGAINST IT. JUST THINK OF YOUR KIDS AND YOUR GRANDKIDS AT SCHOOL DURING RECESS. NONE OF THESE SCHOOLS HAVE FENCED IN PLAYGROUNDS. IF A PITBULL GETS LOOSE AND ATTACKS A KID, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? IT'S ON YOUR HANDS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. CAROLYN CULPEPPER. CAROL IS GOING TO BE. I GUESS SHE'S. A LITTLE SAFER, DO I WAIT? YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. OKAY. AARON.

EVANS, I'M SORRY. I'M DOING THE BEST I CAN. I'M AARON EVANS. I LIVE AT TWO EIGHT, TWO FIVE MOONSHINE COVE, AND I'M HERE TO DISAGREE WITH THE BSL ONE. I WANT TO INITIALLY SAY MY HEART GOES OUT TO ANYBODY WHO'S BEEN HARMED BY ANY DOG OR ANY ANIMAL OR ANY PERSON, JUST LIKE HUMANS, DOGS ARE A PRODUCT OF THEIR ENVIRONMENT. A KID WHO IS BEATEN, ABUSED, NEGLECTED, STARVED, ETC. IS NOT GOING TO GROW UP AND BE LIKE MOST OF US HAVE BEEN. SAME THING WITH THE DOG. THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IN ARKANSAS THAT I HAVE SEEN, I'M A BY THE WAY, I'VE ONLY LIVED IN THE STATE ABOUT SIX YEARS. I'M A MILITARY VETERAN, I'VE LIVED IN A LOT OF PLACES, AND I HAVE TO

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SAY, THIS IS THE WORST STATE I'VE LIVED IN AS FAR AS ANIMAL CRUELTY LAWS. IT IS SICKENING.

AND THE PROBLEM IS NOT GOOD OWNERS. IT IS NOT RESPONSIBLE BREEDERS. IT IS NOT GOOD DOGS.

IT IS PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT THERE ABUSING THESE ANIMALS, OVERBREEDING THEM AND DOG FIGHTING. BSL IS NOT PREVENTING ANY OF THAT. ALL BSL IS DOING IS STOPPING PEOPLE FROM LIVING IN PLACES LIKE JACKSONVILLE AND SHERWOOD AND OTHER PLACES WHO WANT TO LIVE HERE, BECAUSE PEOPLE COME HERE WITH THESE DOGS AND NOW THEY CAN'T LIVE HERE. SO YOU'RE TURNING THOSE PEOPLE AWAY. I CAN GET INTO ALL OF THE ANIMAL NEGLECT CASES, AND THEY'RE NOT LIMITED TO PITBULLS.

THEY'RE ANY DOG. ANY DOG CAN BE AGGRESSIVE. I HAVE A NIECE WHO WAS ATTACKED BY A GOLDEN RETRIEVER WHO HAD TO ACTUALLY HAVE PLASTIC SURGERY TO FIX HER FACE AND REATTACH HER EAR. ANY DOG CAN DO THAT. BSL IS NOT GOING TO STOP THIS. WE NEED TO ENFORCE THE LAWS THAT WE HAVE.

WE NEED TO HAVE STRICTER LAWS, AND WE NEED TO EMPOWER OUR WONDERFUL POLICE DEPARTMENT TO GO OUT THERE AND DO THOSE THINGS. DAISY'S LAW THAT WAS JUST SIGNED IS A GOOD START, BUT WE NEED TO DO MORE. WE NEED TO DO MORE FOR THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE NEED TO DO MORE FOR THE ANIMALS IN OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. HILLARY HICKS. HI, I'M HILLARY HICKS, I LIVE AT THE CORNER OF KOHLER AND CLAREMONT, AND I WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT WAS JUST SPOKEN. THE PROBLEM IS NOT GOOD PEOPLE WHO TAKE CARE OF DOGS THAT MIGHT NEED HELP. AND THE PROBLEM IS NOT DOGS THAT HAVE BEEN ABUSED. THE PROBLEM IS PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO DISOBEY ANY BREED SPECIFIC LEGISLATION THAT YOU PASS. IN ANY CASE, AND IN PASSING RULES THAT ARE ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS, IN MY OPINION, YOU ARE LIMITING THE RIGHTS OF OTHER CITIZENS WHO WOULD NOT BE A PART OF THIS PROBLEM TO LIVE THEIR HAPPIEST AND FULLEST LIFE WITH THE DOGS OF THEIR CHOICE. WHAT WAS SAID AT THE BEGINNING DURING THE PRAYER WAS THAT THIS IS A GOOD GOVERNMENT. WE NEED TO THANK THE LORD FOR WHAT WE HAVE AS A GOVERNMENT, AND IT SHOULD BE A SMALL GOVERNMENT, AND IT SHOULD BE A GOVERNMENT THAT PROTECTS PEOPLE AND ENFORCES RULES THAT SHOULD BE IN PLACE. AND ALSO TO REITERATE WHAT THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER SAID, ENFORCED MORE EFFECTIVELY AND MORE PROACTIVELY. AND THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SUPPORT OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SUPPORT OF OUR SHELTERS AND NOT GOING TO BE FACILITATED IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM BY LIMITING THE TYPE AND TO EXPOUND A BIT THE NUMBER OF PETS AND DOGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE. I'M NOT SURE IF NOW IS A GOOD TIME TO TALK ABOUT THE OTHER TWO POINTS THAT I HAVE ISSUE WITH, AND THAT WOULD BE THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS. SO BRIEFLY, THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS IS ALSO ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS. THERE IS NO REASON THAT FOUR IS A REASONABLE NUMBER TO EITHER HAVE OR NOT HAVE.

PEOPLE CAN BE UNKIND TO ANIMALS IF THEY HAVE THREE ANIMALS, OR IF THEY HAVE SEVEN ANIMALS. ONE ANIMAL CAN BE ABUSED JUST AS EFFECTIVELY AS NINE ANIMALS. AND THERE ARE THOSE OF US THAT HAVE PLENTY OF SPACE AND PLENTY OF ROOM IN OUR HOUSES AND IN OUR YARDS AND IN OUR HEARTS. WHO WOULD HAVE MORE ANIMALS? AND HAVING BEEN A VERY EXCELLENT SUPPORTER OF THE SHERWOOD SHELTER, I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT AS LONG AS I TAKE CARE OF MY ANIMALS, I CAN HAVE AS MANY AS I WANT. HOW WE SHOULD MANAGE THIS IS BY UTILIZING WHAT MY REPRESENTATIVE SAID IS TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBORS. IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOUR NEIGHBOR'S DOGS, THEN GO SPEAK WITH THEM.

IF IT DOES NOT GET RESOLVED, THEN THAT IS WHEN YOU COME TO THE COMMITTEE OR TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SAY, WE HAVE A PROBLEM, WE HAVE 30S YOU HAVE NOISE ORDINANCES ALREADY IN PLACE. WE HAVE ANIMAL ABUSE RULES THAT NEED TO BE MORE EFFECTIVELY APPLIED, AND WE CAN UTILIZE THOSE WITHOUT HAVING TO INVOLVE OR WITHOUT HAVING TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OR THE TYPES OF ANIMALS THAT OUR CITIZENS CAN HAVE. I'LL TALK ABOUT EXOTICS NEXT TIME. KRISTA ANDERSON.

HELLO, I'M KRISTA ANDERSON, I LIVE AT 9797 CLIFFSIDE DRIVE IN SHERWOOD, AND ONE OF MY REPRESENTATIVES IS NOT HERE TONIGHT. UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE ALL HEARD FACT AFTER FACT AND EMOTION AFTER EMOTION FROM BOTH SIDES OVER THIS ISSUE. BUT THE TRUTH IS, THE BAN HAS NOT KEPT PITBULLS OUT. IT HAS KEPT RESPONSIBLE CITIZENS FROM LEGALLY ADOPTING THE KIND OF DOG

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THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE. PEOPLE WHO RUN DOG FIGHTING RINGS, BREEDING MEALS AND THOSE WHO ABUSE ANIMALS WILL DO SO, WHETHER IT'S LEGAL OR ILLEGAL, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE, LAW ABIDING CITIZENS. MISS JOHNSON'S SON THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, HE WAS KILLED BY A PACK OF WILD, HUNGRY DOGS AND THAT SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED. BUT THE OWNER WAS NOT A GOOD CITIZEN. HE HAD NUMEROUS LEGAL ISSUES, NUMEROUS ISSUES WITH THE LAW TO DIRECTLY QUOTE HER FROM THE RECENT NEWS INTERVIEW. THE OWNERS DON'T TAKE PROPER MEASUREMENTS TO KEEP THE DOGS IN THEIR YARD, SO THE BREED IS NOT THE ISSUE, BUT PEOPLE ARE THE ISSUE. WE DON'T CONDONE BAD OWNERSHIP. WE DON'T THINK PEOPLE CAN JUST DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE. BUT WE BUT WELL-MEANING, RESPONSIBLE, LAW ABIDING CITIZENS WILL CARE FOR THEIR ANIMALS AND ACCEPT THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEM, NO MATTER THE BREED OR TYPE OF PET, RESPONSIBLE CITIZENS WILL TAKE THE PROPER MEASURES TO ENSURE THEIR DOG IS SAFE AND SAFE TO OUR COMMUNITY. WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON COMMUNITY, AND I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT THE MAJORITY OF SHERWOOD ARE GOOD PEOPLE WHO CAN BE TRUSTED. BUT BY BANNING A BREED THAT YOUR CITIZENS CLEARLY WANT, THE MESSAGE YOU'RE SPEAKING VERY LOUDLY IS THAT YOU DON'T TRUST THE VERY PEOPLE WHO TRUSTED YOU TO BE THEIR VOICE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, JAMES ANDERSON. JAMES ANDERSON, ALSO AT 9797 CLIFFSIDE DRIVE. I HANG OUT WITH HER. SO IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS, THE QUESTION HAS BEEN ASKED, WHAT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS AND THE CITY GETS SUED? MY QUESTION IS, HOW IS THIS ANY DIFFERENT FROM BIKE LANES? WE HAVE BIKE LANES ALL THROUGH THIS WONDERFUL CITY, AND THE BIKE LANES WORK BECAUSE WE HAVE RESPONSIBLE INDIVIDUALS WHO OPERATE A CAR IN A RESPECTFUL MANNER. I MEAN, WE CAN ASK OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT THE CITY. WE STRUGGLE WITH FOUR WAY STOPS AND ROUNDABOUTS, BUT IT REQUIRES SOMEONE RESPECTFUL. DRIVING A CAR. YOU HAVE A VEHICLE THAT CAN TAKE SOMEONE'S LIFE. HOW IS THIS ANY DIFFERENT THAN PET OWNERSHIP? RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERS ARE GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING. THEY'RE GOING TO MICROCHIP. THEY'RE GOING TO PUT FENCES UP. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE RESPECT FOR THEMSELVES, THEIR ANIMALS AND THEIR NEIGHBORS. SO I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO CONSIDER THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. LAURA PFEIFFER. LAURA PIFER, 3016 NEW KINGSTON COURT. SO I'M SPEAKING OF SOMETHING THAT HAS JUST CAME OUT RECENTLY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL ARE AWARE, BUT IN THE UNITED KINGDOM, XL BULLIES AND PITBULLS ARE COMPLETELY BANNED. THEY HAVE BEEN BANNED SINCE FEBRUARY 2024. SO. AND WITH THEM BEING BANNED IS YOU CAN HAVE A DOG, THEY CAN HAVE A PITBULL STILL, BUT IT HAS TO HAVE ALL THESE PERMITS, EVERYTHING LIKE CHIPPING, NEUTERING, EVERYTHING HAS TO BE DONE TO HAVE THIS BREED OF DOG. SO AND THE REASON THEY DID THIS IS BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO MAKE EVERYBODY SAFER.

THEY WANTED IT TO BE SAFE THERE. BUT IT'S BEEN A YEAR AND EVERYTHING'S COMING OUT NOW, AND IT WAS JUST RELEASED IN APRIL THIS MONTH, THAT SINCE THAT TIME, GUESS WHAT? IT DIDN'T WORK. AND ONE REGION DOG BITES WENT UP 9% IN THREE MONTHS AND ANOTHER REGION 30%. SO WHAT DOES THAT TELL US? ONCE AGAIN, THAT BREED SPECIFIC LEGISLATION DOES NOT WORK. THEY REMOVED AN ENTIRE BREED OF DOGS, AN ENTIRE BREED, BASICALLY, BECAUSE IF TO OWN A PITBULL THERE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT MUZZLED IN PUBLIC. IT HAS TO BE LEASHED EVERYTHING AND THEY WILL SEIZE YOUR DOG. THEY HAVE EUTHANIZED OVER 800 DOGS THIS PAST YEAR, WHICH IS DOUBLE THE AMOUNT THEY EUTHANIZED THE YEAR BEFORE. SO ONCE AGAIN, THIS JUST KIND OF SPEAKS TO THE FACT THAT IT DOESN'T WORK. IT GOES BACK TO DOG OWNERSHIP, BECAUSE WHENEVER YOU BAN ONE BREED, IT'S JUST GOING TO GO TO A DIFFERENT BREED OF DOGS. THAT'S ALL IT'S GOING TO DO. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING.

THE DOG BITES WILL STILL HAPPEN. AND UNFORTUNATELY IN THE UK, THEY'RE IN A BIG MESS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT'S REALLY GONE UP. DURING THE LAST MEETING, A FEW COUNCILMEN SHARED VERY PERSONAL STORIES ABOUT PITBULL BITES THAT HAVE OCCURRED, SO I ACTUALLY WANTED TO LOOK INTO SOME OF THEM BECAUSE THEY WERE PRETTY SPECIFIC CASES. SO THERE WAS ONE SPECIFIC CASE THAT HAPPENED IN CABOT, AND SO I WENT AHEAD AND REACHED OUT TO CABOT TO GET THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT AND TALK TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO GET ALL THE RECORDS PULLED. SO IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, I WASN'T ABLE TO FIND THAT SPECIFIC CASE. BUT WHAT I DID FIND WAS IN THAT CITY WHERE PITBULLS ARE ALLOWED,

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THEY ONLY HAD 28 DOG BITES AND THEY ONLY LISTED TWO AS PETS. NOW, THERE WERE A LOT OF DOGS THAT WEREN'T LISTED AT ALL, BUT SOME OF THE DOGS THAT WERE LISTED WERE RECEIVERS, YORKIES, SHIH TZUS, LABS, AND PUGS. SO THIS IS A CITY THAT DOESN'T HAVE BSL AND DOESN'T REALLY LOOK LIKE THEY HAVE A PITBULL DOG BITE PROBLEM THERE. SO PLEASE REMEMBER AS YOU VOTE TONIGHT, NOT YOUR PERSONAL OPINION, YOU ARE VOTING FOR THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED YOU INTO THIS OFFICE, SO PLEASE LISTEN TO THEM. THANK YOU. MARIA ZAFFINO I HOPE I PRONOUNCED THAT CORRECTLY. HI.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS MARIA ZAFFINO. I LIVE AT ONE 111 NORTH DEVON AVENUE IN SHERWOOD AND I CAN APPRECIATE ALL THE STORIES. BELIEVE ME, I'VE BEEN THROUGH A LOT. A LOT OF STORIES, A LOT OF HEARTACHE WITH DOGS AND LIFE IN GENERAL AND EVERYTHING ELSE REAL QUICK.

I DON'T THINK IT HAS ANYTHING A WHOLE LOT TO DO WITH THE DOG OWNERSHIP. MY SON WAS ATTACKED AT THE AGE OF 11 BY A PITBULL, BY A VERY GOOD FRIENDS, WHICH ARE GOOD PEOPLE. WE'VE KNOWN THEM. WE LIVED IN SHERWOOD FOR 34 YEARS NOW. THEY WERE GOOD PEOPLE. THEY WERE GOOD DOG OWNERS. MY SON KNEW THIS DOG. HE'S BEEN AROUND THE DOG EVERY JUST ABOUT EVERY DAY. THEY WENT OUT TO FEED HIM ONE MORNING, AND THE DOG JUST TURNED AROUND AND MAULED AND GRABBED HIM BY THE CALF, ALMOST TORE HIS CALF OFF, OR DID TEAR HIS CALF OFF. JUST ALMOST GOT TO THE NERVE. I JUST ANYTHING I DO IN MY LIFE WHEN IT COMES TO KIDS, MY NEIGHBORS, SOCIETY IN GENERAL, RESPECT FOR JUST BEING A DECENT PERSON AND RESPECTING OTHER NEIGHBORS. I DO RESEARCH ANYTHING I DO.

UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S NOT THE I DON'T THINK IT'S THERE'S TRAINING, THERE'S A GOOD DOG OWNER, THERE'S BAD DOG OWNERS. THE UNFORTUNATE THING IS THAT PIT BULLS HAVE HAD A TRANSITION OF THEY THEY IT'S NOT THE BREEDING. IT'S LIKE A TRANSITIONAL THING. THEY, THEY, THEY JUST DEVELOPED THAT WAY BECAUSE OF ALL THE ABUSE. THE BAD DOG OWNERS. OKAY. THERE ARE A LOT OF BAD DOG OWNERS OF COURSE, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT DOG IS GOING TO DO. THAT'S MY PROBLEM. I WOULD NEVER OWN A PIT BULL. ME PERSONALLY, BECAUSE OF THE STATISTICS OF THAT TYPE OF DOG AND THE BREEDING AND THE UNFORTUNATE ABUSE OF THOSE DOGS. SO I'VE ALWAYS SAID, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT A GOOD DOG OR A BAD DOG IS GOING TO DO. SO I JUST KIND OF TEND THAT WAS A HORRIFIC EXPERIENCE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I THOUGHT, WELL, HE'S SAFE AT THAT HOUSE. HE'S KNOWN THE DOG, SO THAT JUST TELLS YOU AT ANY MOMENT YOU COULD BE THE BEST DOG OWNER. THAT DOG IS NOT GOING TO TURN AROUND AND TELL YOU I'M GETTING READY TO BITE YOU OR MAUL YOU OR YOUR KID APART. I MEAN, I'M VERY SYMPATHETIC TO ALL THE STORIES AND THE PEOPLE HAVING THE RIGHT TO OWN THE DOGS THEY WANT, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO MAKE REALLY INTELLIGENT DECISIONS. MA'AM, YOU HAVE 30S. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. BUDDY FISHER. BUDDY FISHER, 8949 MEADOW GARDEN CIRCLE IN SHERWOOD. LIVED HERE TEN YEARS. HALLELUJAH. I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS THING'S BEEN BEAT AROUND THE BUSH FOR ALMOST, I DON'T KNOW, IS IT GOING ON TWO YEARS? I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT'S BEEN GOING ON, BUT CERTAINLY IF THIS ISN'T A MATTER OF COMMON SENSE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. GUYS.

AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, EXCUSE ME. SO I WANT TO BRING UP TWO ISSUES. WE KNOW IT'S A WE KNOW IT'S A OWNER ISSUE, NOT A DOG ISSUE. I'VE OWNED THREE LABS, AS SOMEONE PREVIOUSLY STATED. AND IF YOU WANT TO GET A GOOD GUARD DOG, GET YOU A LAB BECAUSE IT WILL PROTECT YOUR FAMILY LIKE NO OTHER DOG AROUND YOU. COME THROUGH MY DOOR. THAT DOG WILL TAKE YOU OUT. OKAY, SO YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S PROVEN THAT YOU CAN TRAIN AND MAKE ANY DOG, YOU KNOW, VIOLENT OR DOCILE. OKAY, HERE'S THE TWO THINGS THAT I WANT TO BRING UP REAL QUICK IF I CAN. OKAY. WE HAVE A SHELTER.

AND I THINK THIS IS THE BRUNT OF WHAT PART OF THE MAIN ISSUE IS WE HAVE A SHELTER THAT IS SUPPOSEDLY A NON-KILL SHELTER. SO NOW I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY BREEDS THERE ARE THERE THAT FALL UNDER THIS CATEGORY. BUT LET'S SAY A DOG COMES IN TODAY. THEY BRING IT IN AND IT'S NOT GOING TO GET KILLED. BUT BECAUSE NO ONE CAN ADOPT THIS DOG, BECAUSE IT'S UNDER THIS BREED, WE'RE

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GOING TO FEED AND HOUSE AND MAINTAIN THIS DOG FOR EVER, BECAUSE NO ONE CAN ADOPT IT. AND THAT'S A GOOD USE OF OUR TAX DOLLARS. SURE WOULD. WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK? I DON'T THINK SO.

AND LET ME LET YOU ON THE LAST THING. AND I'M GOING TO BE DONE REAL FAST. OKAY. AND AGAIN THIS THIS IS THE REAL ISSUE. FOLLOW ME. TOMORROW I'M GOING TO LET YOU IN ON A REAL BIG SECRET. I CAN TAKE YOU ALL OVER SHERWOOD AND SHOW YOU PIT BULLS AND BOXERS AND BULLDOGS AND DOGS THAT FALL UNDER THIS CATEGORY EVERYWHERE. SO IF YOU THINK THIS ORDINANCE IS STOPPING PEOPLE FROM OWNING THESE DOGS, PLEASE DON'T FALL FOR THAT AND DON'T COME UNDER THE GUILT TRIP THAT SOME ARE TRYING TO PLACE UPON YOU. WE WOULD ALL EMPATHIZE WITH ANYBODY WHO'S BEEN HARMED BY ANY ANIMAL AT ANY TIME. OKAY, THE ONLY TIME I EVER GOT BIT BY A DOG IN MY LIFE WAS BY A WEENIE DOG WHEN I WAS A LITTLE KID, OKAY? RIGHT IN THE MOUTH, BY THE WAY. SO, I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING LET'S LET'S LET'S THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS IS NOT LET'S BRING RESTORE SOME COMMON SENSE.

THIS IS NOT STOPPING THIS PROBLEM. YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. GOD BLESS YOU, COURTNEY MIXON. MY NAME IS COURTNEY MIXON. I DON'T WANT TO GIVE MY ADDRESS BECAUSE OF SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE. AND PHOTOGRAPHY PHOTOGRAPHING PEOPLE. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS. ASK A HUNDRED DIFFERENT AMERICANS TO DEFINE A PIT BULL WHAT IT IS. HOWEVER, YOU WILL GET 100 DIFFERENT ANSWERS. OVER THE PAST TWO DECADES, THE CATEGORY HAS SWELLED TO INCLUDE MIXED BREED DOGS THAT POSSESS SUPPOSED PIT BULL CHARACTERISTICS SUCH AS BLOCKY HEADS, WHITE CHEST MARKINGS, OR BRINDLE COATS. THOSE SAME CHARACTERISTICS CAN BE FOUND IN MORE THAN 20 BREEDS OF DOGS, AND THE LATEST GENETIC RESEARCH INDICATES THAT MANY MIXED BREED ANIMALS AND DOGS IDENTIFY AS PIT BULL MIXES ACTUALLY AREN'T IN NEARLY EVERY MUNICIPALITY WHERE BSL HAS BEEN ADOPTED, IT HAS FAILED TO PREVENT SERIOUS DOG BITES, INJURIES AND HOSPITALIZATIONS. VETERINARIANS, ANIMAL BEHAVIORISTS AND PUBLIC HEALTH EXPERTS, INCLUDING THOSE AT THE CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL AND PREVENTION, ARE VIRTUALLY UNANIMOUS IN THEIR DENUNCIATION OF BSL ON THE GROUNDS THAT IT IS BOTH CRUEL AND INEFFECTIVE. IN 2013, EVEN THE WHITE HOUSE RELEASED A STATEMENT AGAINST IT. SINCE 2018, OVER 100 CITIES HAVE REPEALED INEFFECTIVE BREED SPECIFIC LEGISLATION OR BANS TARGETING PIT BULL TYPE DOGS WITH MORE EFFECTIVE, BREED NEUTRAL POLICIES BASED ON MODERN PRACTICES FOR PREVENTING AND REDUCING SERIOUS DOG BITE INJURIES AND INCIDENTS. BSL IS REPLACED WITH BEHAVIOR, BEHAVIOR BASED, BREED NEUTRAL REGULATIONS THAT ARE MORE EFFECTIVE BECAUSE THEY ADDRESS ALL POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS DOGS, ALL IRRESPONSIBLE OWNERS, AND ALL UNSAFE DOG RELATED SITUATIONS, REGARDLESS OF A DOG'S APPEARANCE OR BREED. CABOT, ARKANSAS. DEWITT, ARKANSAS. PRESCOTT, ARKANSAS. MAUMELLE, ARKANSAS AND DARDANELLE, ARKANSAS HAVE ALL ENDED. BREED SPECIFIC LEGISLATION. EVEN THE FIRST CITY THAT ENACTED BSL, WHICH WAS DENVER, COLORADO, HAS REPEALED BSL. IN 2020, A 31 YEAR OLD BAN WAS OVERTURNED. HELEN KELLER, GARY COOPER, THEODORE ROOSEVELT, BILLIE HOLIDAY, WOODROW WILSON, JOHN JOHN BERTHONNEAU, MARC JACOBS, CHANNING TATUM ALL HAD PIT BULL TYPE DOGS. THESE ARE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT OWN THESE SO-CALLED DANGEROUS DOGS DOCTORS, LAWYERS, DOCTORS, OPTICIANS, ASSISTANTS ALL OVER THE WORLD OWN A PIT BULL TYPE DOG, NOT A CRIMINAL. YOU HAVE 30S. THESE ARE THE RESPONSIBLE OWNERS. THESE ARE THE MAJORITY.

THE WAY THE LAW IS WRITTEN, IT IS INEFFECTIVE. WE NEED TO DO BETTER AND WE NEED TO END BSL AND ADOPT A MORE REASONABLE LEGISLATION. THANK YOU. MARCY WELCH.

I'VE HAD SURGERY RECENTLY, SO MY FORMER STUDENT HERE IS GOING TO KIND OF BE MY ESCORT. I'M MARCY WELCH. I LIVE AT 613 EAST BEVERLY SHERWOOD, ARKANSAS. MY FAMILY HAS LIVED IN THIS TOWN.

I'VE LIVED IN THIS TOWN FOR 60 PLUS YEARS. MANY YEARS AGO, MY DAD SET RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE. AND

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I WILL SAY THAT MANY THINGS HAVE CHANGED. MANY THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THAT TIME. BUT ONE THING THAT HAS NOT CHANGED HAS BEEN OUR LOVE FOR ANIMALS AND THE LOVE FOR ANIMALS. FROM IN THE PEOPLE OF SHERWOOD. AND I AM AGAINST THE BREED SPECIFIC LEGISLATION, ESPECIALLY HEARING ABOUT THE LADY WITH THE PTSD, THOSE SITUATIONS. AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, THINGS HAVE HAPPENED IN MY LIFE IN THE PAST TWO YEARS AND I NOW HAVE MYSELF HAVE PTSD, AND I DON'T HAVE A PIT BULL. I'VE GOT CATS. AT THIS TIME, I'M A PET SITTER AND I CANNOT IMAGINE MAKING IT THROUGH DAY BY DAY AND ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT WITHOUT THESE ANIMALS. AND IT BREAKS MY HEART TO HEAR OF THESE PEOPLE WHO WOULD HAVE TO GET RID OF THEIR ANIMALS BECAUSE OF LEGISLATION. AND I WILL SAY, LIKE I MENTIONED, I AM A PET SITTER. I HAVE NEVER AND I PET SAT PIT BULLS. I'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH THEM EVER. I WAS PULLED DOWN BY A GOLDEN RETRIEVER. MY KNEE HAS NEVER BEEN THE SAME. LIKE THE GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE WAS BIT BY A WEENIE DOG AND HAD TO GET. IT WASN'T RABIES SHOTS, BUT I DID HAVE TO GET TETANUS TETANUS SHOTS. SO ANYWAY, I WOULD LIKE.

I HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER THIS AND THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER ALL OF THESE TESTIMONIALS THAT HAVE BEEN GIVEN. AND THINK ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE AND WHAT THEY MAY HAVE TO GIVE UP IF THEY HAVE TO GIVE UP THEIR DOGS. THANK YOU. ALYSSA. PRETTY. ALL RIGHT. TONIGHT I DIDN'T COME WITH AN OVERLY PREPARED SPEECH OR ANYTHING LIKE I NORMALLY DO. TONIGHT, I WANT YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE FOLKS THAT JUST STOOD UP HERE AND SPOKE. YOU HAVE TEN SHERWOOD RESIDENTS THAT WANT TO REMOVE THE BREED SPECIFIC VERBIAGE. YOU HAVE TWO THAT ARE AGAINST IT. I PERSONALLY HAVE BEEN AT EVERY MEETING SINCE 2001 40 WAS INTRODUCED. I COME EVERY SINGLE MONTH AND LISTEN TO EVERYTHING THAT'S SAID. DURING THAT TIME I HAVE DONE EXTENSIVE RESEARCH BECAUSE IN THE BEGINNING I WAS ALL FOR EXTRA INSURANCE, ALL FOR THE MICROCHIPPING AND HAVING TO HAVE CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS FOR PIT BULLS. BUT AS I'VE DONE MY RESEARCH, WHAT I'VE LEARNED IS THERE ARE SO MANY BREEDS THAT ARE JUST AS OR MORE DANGEROUS THAN PITBULLS THAT WE ALLOW EVERY SINGLE DAY IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO NO LONGER DO I FEEL LIKE PIT BULL OWNERS SHOULD HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH HOOPS IN ORDER TO OWN A DOG. THAT CAN BE LESS DANGEROUS THAN YOUR FAMILY GOLDEN RETRIEVER OR LAB OR GERMAN SHEPHERD CANE CORSO. ALL THOSE DOGS THAT WE ALLOW IN OUR CITY RIGHT NOW. I HAVE SEVERAL YEARS OF RESCUE EXPERIENCE. I HAVE WORKED WITH DOGS, EVERYTHING FROM 3 POUNDS TO 125 POUNDS, AND I HAVE NEVER ONCE HAD AN ISSUE WITH A PIT BULL THAT'S BEEN IN FOSTER CARE, SHELTER SITUATION OR ANYTHING WHERE I'VE DEALT WITH THEM. I LOOKED BACK OVER MY LIFE AND I HAVE BEEN BIT THREE TIMES. ONCE WHEN I WAS A CHILD BY A CHOW MIX. IT BELONGED TO MY AUNT UNCLE. IT WAS A DOG THAT I WAS FAMILIAR WITH, BUT AS A CHILD I MADE A MISTAKE. I REACHED OVER A TABLE TO SMASH A BUG WITH A KLEENEX BOX RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SLEEPING DOG, AND IT GOT MY ARM BROKE. THE SKIN DID NOT HAVE TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL, BUT IT WAS A SEVERE ENOUGH BITE THAT IT UPSET MY MOTHER, OF COURSE. AND THEN AS A RESCUER, I WAS BITTEN IN THE FACE BY A CHIHUAHUA. I WAS LOOKING IN THE BOX AT HER BABIES. I JUST PICKED HER UP THAT DAY, GOT BIT IN THE FACE, AND THE TIME THAT I HAD TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL. BROKEN BONES, RIPPED OFF FLESH. ONE OF OUR PERSONAL DOGS GOT IN A FIGHT WITH A LAB THAT WE WERE FOSTERING, AND IT WAS MY HUSBAND'S SOUL DOG, AND I INSTINCTIVELY TO HELP HER REACH DOWN INTO THAT FIGHT. AND SHE GOT AHOLD OF MY FINGER AND BROKE THE BONE AND TORE THE FLESH. IT WAS A FRENCHIE. IT'S NOT A PIT BULL. IT'S NOT A BIG, VICIOUS DOG. THE PIT BULLS THAT I'VE HAD EXPERIENCE WITH ARE THE MOST TIMID AND MEEK AND MILD AND LOVING DOGS THAT COME THROUGH RESCUE. AND SO I JUST WOULD ASK YOU, PLEASE, MA'AM, YOU HAVE 30S LISTEN TO THE TO THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME TO SPEAK TO YOU, BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE OPPOSED TO THE TO THE BREED HAVE HAD EVERY OPPORTUNITY, JUST LIKE WE HAVE TO COME TO THESE MEETINGS AND TO SPEAK. AND THE LOOKS OF TONIGHT, TEN VERSUS TWO, THE MAJORITY IS DEFINITELY LETTING YOU KNOW WHAT THEY WOULD PREFER. JOSH. PRETTY. I'M JOSH PRETTY. MY WIFE AND I BOTH LIVE AT 9880 WILLOWBROOK CIRCLE OR

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DRIVE. SORRY. MOST OF Y'ALL HERE KNOW ME. MOST EVERYBODY OUT HERE KNOWS WHO I AM. Y'ALL ALSO KNOW THAT I'M STUBBORN. AND YOU ALSO KNOW THAT I DON'T HOLD MY TONGUE VERY WELL. THERE'S SOMETHING SILLY I'M GOING TO TELL YOU. IT'S SILLY, AND THIS IS DUMB. Y'ALL NEED TO LET THIS GO. IT'S A DOG THAT WE ARE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF OUR DOGS TO THE BITTER END. I JUST LOST THE DOG THAT SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT A WEEK AGO. I'M STILL BROKEN OVER IT. I FELL OFF OF A LADDER THREE YEARS AGO IN NOVEMBER, AND I STILL HAVEN'T GOT LADDERS BANNED. THAT'S HOW SILLY THIS IS. JOSH, WE NEED TO LET IT GO. AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF YOU ON THIS JURY THAT ARE VOTING FROM THE WRONG PLACE. YOU'RE NOT VOTING FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS. Y'ALL ARE VOTING SOME OF YOU FROM HERE.

AND YOU SHOULDN'T DO THAT, BECAUSE THERE'S A TON OF YOUR PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN YOUR WARDS THAT WOULD DISAGREE WITH YOUR VOTE. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. PLEASE GET RID OF IT. IT'S SILLY. LET IT GO. THANK YOU. PENNY. RAY. I'M PENNY. RAY AND I LIVE ON BOBOLINK. IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT PICTURE, THAT'D BE GREAT. AND I JUST WANT TO THANK. THANK YOU GUYS, FOR PAYING ATTENTION TO US. AND LISTEN TO US TONIGHT. AND REALLY LOOK AROUND AND LOOK AT ALL THE PEOPLE HERE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR ALL THESE MEETINGS FOR TWO YEARS NOW, ASKING YOU TO CHANGE THIS, THIS BE THIS BRAND OF, OF NOT ALLOWING THIS SPECIFIC BREED. AND I APPRECIATE THE ONES THAT ARE SITTING OVER HERE THAT ARE ACTUALLY PAYING ATTENTION TO EVERYBODY WHO'S TALKING. I APPRECIATE THAT, AND TO YOU FOR LISTENING TO ALL OF US. YOU KNOW, SOME OF YOU RAN ON ON THAT SPECIFIC THING. YOU SAID THAT YOU WOULD ALLOW IT, THAT YOU WERE READY FOR THE CHANGE. AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL STAND BY THAT. YOU KNOW, CESAR MILLAN, WHO I WATCH A LOT. HE SAYS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T TRAIN PEOPLE, I TRAIN PEOPLE. I REHABILITATE DOGS, AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE PEOPLE, NOT THE DOGS. THE DOGS ARE. I HAVE A DAUGHTER WHO HAS A PITBULL. HAVE A GRANDDAUGHTER WHO HAS A PITBULL. MY DAUGHTER, WHEN SHE WAS SIX YEARS OLD, WAS ATTACKED BY A CHIHUAHUA OVER 200 STITCHES IN HER FACE AT SIX YEARS OLD. NOT BECAUSE SHE DID ANYTHING TO THE DOG, SHE JUST REACHED DOWN TO PET IT. SO ALL DOGS WILL BITE. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE BREED IS, BUT YOU GUYS, SOME OF YOU PEOPLE ARE VOTING BECAUSE OF WHAT YOUR BELIEFS ARE. YOU GUYS WERE VOTED IN BY THESE PEOPLE RIGHT HERE. YOU KNOW, LISTEN TO THESE PEOPLE. THESE ARE THE ONES WHO VOTE YOU IN, AND THEY'RE ALSO THE ONES WHO WILL VOTE YOU OUT.

YOU KNOW, THESE PEOPLE WANT THIS THIS BAN THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR HOW MANY YEARS NOW TO BE LIFTED. YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS HAVE SET UP NEW NEW RULES THAT ARE GREAT. GIVE THEM A CHANCE. YOU KNOW THAT THE PITS ARE ALREADY IN THE CITY. THEY'VE BEEN IN THE CITY FOR YEARS. OUR OUR SHELTERS ARE OVERRUN WITH DOGS THAT CAN'T GET ADOPTED. LOOK AT HASH BROWN, WHO WAS THERE FOR TWO YEARS. GET ADOPTED BECAUSE HE HAD A SQUARE FACE AND HE REALLY DIDN'T EVEN LOOK LIKE A PIT. HE JUST LOOKED LIKE HE MIGHT HAVE HAD PIT IN HIM, BUT HE COULDN'T GET ADOPTED FOR TWO YEARS. SO HE SET IN A CAGE BECAUSE A FEW OF YOU WON'T CHANGE YOUR MIND, OR WON'T EVEN PAY ATTENTION TO THE PEOPLE HERE THAT ARE WANTING YOU TO LISTEN AND CHANGE. AND, YOU KNOW, GET WITH THE TIMES. YOU KNOW, THESE DOGS SHOULDN'T BE PUNISHED BECAUSE OF 1 OR 2 BITES. WE ARE WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR CITY. YOU HAVE 30S, MA'AM, NOT THE OTHER CITIES THAT ARE AROUND US, BUT OUR CITY HERE. AND THESE PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN PATIENT ENOUGH FOR TWO YEARS TO SIT HERE AND STAND HERE AND EMAIL YOU AND COME TO ALL THESE MEETINGS AND, AND GO OUT THERE AND, AND SPEND ALL THEIR TIME DOING RESEARCH BECAUSE THEY WANT THE RULES CHANGED. WE WANT YOU TO GIVE THEM A CHANCE. AND THAT'S ALL WE ASK IS THAT YOU GIVE US OUR YOUR VOTE. YES. LET THE BREED'S BE IN SHERWOOD. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S EVERYONE WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. COUNCIL MEMBER TREAT, WE'LL START WITH YOU. WE HAVE A QUICK VIDEO. THAT CAMERON'S GONNA PLAY FOR. I'VE ADOPTED FOUR PITBULLS OVER THE PAST 17 YEARS FROM THE LITTLE ROCK SHELTER. THEY ALL BECOME MY BEST FRIENDS, AND I. I LOVE THESE DOGS SO, SO MUCH.

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WHEN I SAY I WALK PITBULLS, THIS IS WHAT I MEAN. I MEAN, WE GO OUT IN THE YARD, WE SNUGGLE, WE TAKE SELFIES, A SMOOCH AND HUG ON EM, AND I CAN CONFIDENTLY SAY THAT I HAVE WALKED HUNDREDS OF STRAY SHELTER PITBULLS. OUT.

I THINK SHE'S GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO ME. YOU OKAY? NO, WE'RE NOT OKAY. DO YOU WANT ME TO MOVE ON TO CALLIE? GIVE ME A YEAH. OKAY. SO. PERSON. OH. WHAT? OH, SHE AND MISS CULPEPPER THAT YOU WANTED TO ASK? DID YOU WANT HER TO TALK FIRST AND THEN KIM? OKAY, OKAY. OKAY. SO THE NEWLY PROPOSED ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE IS INTENDED TO KEEP OUR CITIZENS, HUMANS AND ANIMALS SAFE. THE PREVIOUS ORDINANCE THAT BANS SPECIFIC BREED IS UNENFORCEABLE. DOESN'T DO ANYTHING EXCEPT SHOW PERSONAL BIAS AGAINST PITBULLS AND BULLY BREEDS. ALL OF THE DISCUSSION THAT'S HAPPENED UP TO THIS POINT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT SHERWOOD CITIZENS HAVE PITBULLS.

LET ME GET EMOTIONAL TO NOW, BASED ON WHAT I HAVE PERSONALLY OBSERVED IN MY WARD, JUST IN MY WARD, THEY'RE WALKING ON OUR STREETS. THEY'RE TAKEN TO THE DOG PARKS. THEY'RE CONFIDENT IN DOING SO BECAUSE AS THEY'VE HEARD OUR DISCUSSIONS, THEY REALIZE THE POLICE CAN'T DO ANYTHING. THE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO STOP THEM. OUR INTENTION WITH THE NEW ORDINANCE IS NOT JUST TO LIFT THE BAN ON PITBULLS. IT'S ALSO TO GIVE THE SHERWOOD ANIMAL CONTROL THE ABILITY TO IMMEDIATELY SEIZE AND IMPOUND ANY VICIOUS OR AGGRESSIVE DOG, NO MATTER THE BREED. MAKE SURE THAT THE DOG OWNER IS HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR ACTIONS OF THEIR ANIMAL. AS THE POLICE CHIEF TOLD ME EARLIER TODAY, IT'S EASIER TO DOCUMENT AND TESTIFY IN COURT WHEN THEY HAVE ACTUALLY DONE SOMETHING AT THAT MOMENT. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYONE TO CHANGE HOW THEY PERSONALLY FEEL ABOUT PITBULLS OR ANY BREED. WE ARE ASKING FOR YOU TO JUST STEP BACK FROM YOUR EMOTIONS ABOUT A SPECIFIC BREED. KEEP THE SAFETY OF OUR CITIZENS AT THE FRONT OF YOUR MIND WITH REGARDS TO ALL VICIOUS OR AGGRESSIVE DOGS AND THE OWNERS WHO HAVE THEM. THERE WAS A DOG THAT LIVED DOWN THE STREET FROM MY MOM THAT WASN'T A PITBULL. HE THREATENED MY MOM.

HE THREATENED ANY VISITOR THAT CAME TO HER HOUSE. HE CAME DOWN TO THE BACK BEHIND MY YARD, BARKED AND AGGRESSIVELY AT MY DOGS. I HAD VIDEO THAT I SHOWED ANIMAL CONTROL, CALLED THEM PROBABLY 4 OR 5 TIMES, AS DID ALL OF MY NEIGHBORS. NOTHING COULD BE DONE UNTIL THEY GOT IT PUSHED UP THE LINE. AND THIS WAS 4 OR 5 YEARS AGO. OUR JOB AS COUNCIL IS TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS WITH THE DECISIONS WE MAKE, AND WE'RE JUST ASKING TO YOU TO CAREFULLY CONSIDER THE FACTS WITHIN THIS ORDINANCE. YOU'RE NOT JUST VOTING TO LIFT A BAN ON A SPECIFIC BREED. LIKE I SAID, YOU'RE VOTING TO GIVE THE CONFIDENCE IN OUR ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS SO THEY HAVE ACTUAL AUTHORITY AND THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE AGGRESSIVE AND VICIOUS DOG ORDINANCE FOR ALL BREEDS TO HELP OUR CITIZENS IN THIS CITY. FIRST, I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR GETTING EMOTIONAL. IS STILL THAT EMOTION COMES FROM ONE OF OUR SPEAKERS THAT SPOKE AND A PERSONAL STORY OF MINE. SO IT JUST HIT HOME. ANYWAY, WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN A LOT OF FACTUAL INFORMATION OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS. FACTS REGARDING MISIDENTIFIED ANIMALS. FACTS REGARDING SPECIFIC DOGS, ATTACKS WITHIN OUR CITY, FACTS REGARDING CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS REGARDING RISK OF DEATH, REGARDING NON RESPONSIBLE OWNERSHIP OF ANIMALS. STATEMENTS OF HOW HARD IT IS THAT OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE IS TO ENFORCE. I WANT TO REITERATE TO EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM THAT I AM NOT ADVOCATING FOR ALLOWING DANGEROUS DOGS IN OUR CITY. RATHER, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD REMOVE THE BREED SPECIFIC LANGUAGE FROM OUR ORDINANCE AND FOCUS ON CREATING A COMPREHENSIVE SECTION ON VICIOUS ANIMALS THAT APPLY TO ALL SPECIES. THIS SECTION SHOULD BE THOROUGHLY PROTECT OUR CITIZENS.

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IT WILL PROMOTE RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERSHIP AND BE SOMETHING THAT OUR DEPARTMENTS CAN EFFECTIVELY ENFORCE. AS WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY STATED, THE TERM PITBULL IS NOT A SPECIFIC BREED, BUT RATHER AN UMBRELLA TERM THAT IS APPLIED TO SEVERAL BREEDS AND MIXED BREED OF DOGS THAT SHARE CERTAIN PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS. BECAUSE OF THIS, THIS LEADS TO CONFUSION AND FREQUENT MISIDENTIFICATION. BREEDS COMMONLY LABELED AS PITBULL TYPES INCLUDES THOSE THAT WE HAVE IN OUR ORDINANCE. IT DOES NOT, HOWEVER, IN OUR ORDINANCE INCLUDE BOSTON TERRIERS, BOXERS, MASTIFFS, ALL OF WHICH ALSO HAVE THOSE PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS. ALL OF THEM TEND TO BE DIFFERENT SIZE, BUT THEY ARE MUSCULAR BUILD. THEY'VE GOT BROAD SHOULDERS, A SQUARE SHAPED HEAD BECAUSE THOSE TRAITS CAN BE FOUND IN ANY MIXED BREED OF DOGS. VISUAL MISIDENTIFICATION IS COMMON EVEN AMONG OUR PROFESSIONALS. THIS MAKES BREED SPECIFIC LANGUAGE IN LOCAL ORDINANCE VERY PROBLEMATIC, AS DOGS MAY BE UNFAIRLY RESTRICTED OR REMOVED BASED SOLELY ON THEIR APPEARANCE RATHER THAN THE BEHAVIOR OR THE ACTUAL BREED LINEAGE. OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE DOES NOT INCLUDE MANY OF THE DOGS THAT WERE LISTED IN THE POLICE REPORT SUMMARY THAT I PROVIDED YOU LAST MONTH. WE DO NOT HEAR OF NEWS REPORTS OF DOG ATTACKS UNLESS IT IS OF ONE CONTROVERSIAL BREED UMBRELLA TERM PITBULL. A MORE EFFECTIVE AND EQUITABLE APPROACH TO THIS WOULD BE TO REMOVE THE BREED SPECIFIC LANGUAGE AND INSTEAD FOCUS ON A COMPREHENSIVE, VICIOUS ANIMAL PROVISIONS THAT APPLY TO EVERY ANIMAL, WHETHER IT IS A CHIHUAHUA, A DACHSHUND, A GERMAN SHEPHERD, A PIT MIX, A HUSKY, WHATEVER IT IS. THIS WAY, NO MATTER THE BREED, SHOULD ANY ANIMAL WITHIN OUR CITY LIMITS SHOW ANY TYPE OF ADVERSARY BEHAVIOR, IT CAN BE HANDLED APPROPRIATELY UNDER A VICIOUS ANIMAL ORDINANCE, AND SUCH AN APPROACH PROMOTES AGAIN, RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERSHIP, PROTECTS OUR PUBLIC SAFETY OF ALL OF OUR CITIZENS, AND ENSURES ORDINANCE THAT CAN BE FAIRLY AND CONSISTENTLY ENFORCED BY OUR POLICE AND ANIMAL CONTROL DEPARTMENTS. AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK CAROL CULPEPPER TO COME UP. SHE IS A DOG BEHAVIORAL SPECIALIST AND A TRAINING CONSULTANT TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION. AND I WAS ASKED TO COME TONIGHT, AND I WANT TO PARROT ALL THE THANKS FOR YOU GUYS AND EVERYONE. MY HEART GOES OUT TO EVERYBODY. YOU REALLY I CAN UNDERSTAND EVERYONE'S PERSPECTIVE AND WE ALL HAVE A DIFFERENT ONE. AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF PERSPECTIVES OVER DECADES OF WORKING WITH PEOPLES AND THEIR ANIMALS. PEOPLE DON'T NECESSARILY MISTREAT THE ANIMAL BECAUSE THEY'RE INTENDING, BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE KNOWLEDGE, THEY'RE NOT INFORMED, AND THEY DO THINGS THAT MAKE THE DOG DANGEROUS. AND OTHER ANIMALS. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE ARTICULATION OF THE YOU, THE WAY YOU'VE YOU'VE COME TO THIS AGGRESSION IS NOT A DOG, IS THERE ARE VERY FEW AGGRESSIVE DOGS, BUT ANY DOG WILL BEHAVE AGGRESSIVELY UNDER THE CORRECT. IT WILL THEIR DOGS, THEIR ANIMALS AND PERIOD. SO I'M NOT GOING TO SAY MUCH MORE BECAUSE IT'S SO MUCH HAS BEEN SAID. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT WOULD HELP YOU GUYS, I ENCOURAGE YOU NOT TO HANG ON TIGHT TO YOUR PERSPECTIVES BECAUSE YOU KNOW, MINE ISN'T PERFECT AND IT'S GOING TO CHANGE TOMORROW. HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY WE'RE ALL GETTING BETTER AND SEEING THINGS. TRUTH. THAT'S MY HERO. TRUTH, RIGHT? AND JUSTICE. AND WE DO NEED LAWS THAT ARE TOOLS THAT WE CAN HOLD UP JUSTICE. WE NEED THE LEGISLATURE TO ENABLE JUSTICE TO BE SERVED SHOULD A TRAGEDY OCCUR. AND YOU KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO BECAUSE I'M SORRY, HUMAN NATURE DOES HAVE EFFECT IN THIS. HUMAN NATURE IS NOT PERFECT IN EVERYONE, INCLUDING ME. GUILTY. BUT WE NEED ACCOUNTABILITY AND DOG OWNERS. ANY ANIMAL OWNER AND I ANIMALS, PERIOD. EVERY ANIMAL.

IT IS A PRIVILEGE. THEY ARE GIFTS AND IT IS A PRIVILEGE TO TAKE INTO YOUR CARE AND OBSERVE AND ENJOY. AND THEY SAVE LIVES. THEY REALLY DO. AND BUT YOU NEED TO KNOW YOUR DOG. YOU NEED TO KNOW THE DOG THAT BIT THE YOUNG BOYS TO ME IMMEDIATELY THE DOG WAS HUNGRY. I WOULD NEVER LET A CHILD BE AROUND A HUNGRY DOG, EVER. THAT'S NOT INFORMED. AND PARDON MY PASSION, BUT A DOG IS.

THEY'RE ANIMALS. THEY CANNOT REASON LIKE WE CAN. THEY DON'T HAVE THE COGNITIVE ABILITIES.

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AND WE'VE GOT TO QUIT PROJECTING OUR EXPERIENCE AND ABILITIES IF WE WANT TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION. BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO DO. AND YOU CAN TELL WHAT A PITBULL IS GOING TO DO, BUT YOU HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO READ BODY LANGUAGE. AND IF YOU DON'T, YOU SHOULDN'T OWN A DOG. CAN YOU SPEAK TO YOUR EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH A NON PIT BREED DOG THAT IS NOT THAT? HAS THAT YOU HAVE SEEN THAT IS NOT REHABILITATED? THERE HAVE ONLY BEEN TWO. AND CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? YES, SPEAK TO THAT. THAT'S OKAY. YES. YEAH I APOLOGIZE I'M IT'S MY FIRST MEETING AND I'M ASHAMED OF MYSELF. I PARTLY CAME OUT OF A SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE IF I DIDN'T TRY TO HELP BEAT WHAT? RIGHT AND TRUE. BUT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, I'VE WORKED WITH ANIMALS FOR ABOUT 35. I'VE TRAINED TIGERS, I'VE TRAINED HORSES, I'VE TRAINED. I'VE BEEN SO BLESSED WITH SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO LEARN ABOUT ANIMALS. NO ONE LOVES ANIMALS MORE THAN ME. THE ONLY TWO DOGS I EVER RECOMMENDED EUTHANIZED. ONE WAS A 12 POUND PUGGLE TORE OPEN ITS OWNERS. I WORKED WITH IT FOR A MONTH AND I COULD NOT BECAUSE IT WAS SPOILED FOR SIX YEARS. SHE DIDN'T DO IT ON PURPOSE, BUT SHE ENABLED THIS DOG TO CHOOSE AGGRESSION BECAUSE IT WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR THAT DOG TO GET WHAT IT WANTED. PERIOD. THEY THEIR INSTINCT AND SIMPLE PREFERENCE. THEY'RE VERY OPPORTUNISTIC. I LOVE THEM MORE THAN ANYONE. BUT THAT'S A DOG. THEY'RE AN ANIMAL AND IF THEY CAN GET WHAT THEY WANT, THEY WILL. AND THE BIGGER THE DOG AND THE MORE THAT ARE KEPT TOGETHER, THE MORE RESPONSIBILITY PEOPLE HAVE TO HAVE ADEQUATE ENCLOSURES. AND TO TRAIN, YOU MUST TRAIN A LARGE DOG OR SOMEONE'S GOING TO GET HURT. YOU CAN'T ALLOW IT TO BE IN ITS NATURAL STATE AND EXPECT TO LET A CHILD COME AND FEED IT. THAT'S THAT'S NOT INFORMED. ALL RIGHT.

IS THERE DID YOU HAVE ANY ANY OTHER. NO. THANK YOU SO MUCH. DID YOU HAVE. THANK YOU. YES. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK DOCTOR HOLLY TO COME JOIN US. PROBABLY MANY OF YOU KNOW HER. SHE'S BEEN OUR VET FOR OVER 20 YEARS. SHE WORKED AT NORTH HILLS ANIMAL CLINIC AND THEN KILL AVENUE. SHE IS BELOVED IN THE CITY OF SHERWOOD, AND WE'RE SO GRATEFUL TO HAVE HER HERE. DOCTOR. HOLLY.

HOLLY, AMY, HOLLY H A W L E Y AND I APOLOGIZE, I HAVE TO READ THIS BECAUSE PUBLIC SPEAKING MAKES ME WANT TO THROW UP. SO I'M NOT TRYING TO BE IMPERSONAL. I'M JUST TRYING NOT TO EMBARRASS MYSELF. AND I AM THE RENEGADE THAT LIVES IN SCOTT BECAUSE I HAVE TO MOVE TO ARKANSAS IN 2004 AND LIVED IN SHERWOOD, LIVED IN SHERWOOD AND WORKED IN SHERWOOD FOR 15 YEARS. BUT I HAVE A PIT BULL, SO I'M NOT WELCOME IN SHERWOOD. SO I LIVE IN SCOTT, WHICH IS FINE. I LOVE SCOTT, IT'S BEAUTIFUL OUT THERE, BUT THAT'S WHY I'M IN SCOTT. BUT HERE. SO MY NAME IS DOCTOR AMY HOLLY. I'VE BEEN A LOCAL VETERINARIAN FOR THE PAST 21 YEARS. AS MONICA SAID, MY FIRST 11 YEARS WERE AT NORTH HILLS ANIMAL HOSPITAL IN SHERWOOD. THEN I SPENT FIVE YEARS AT KIEL AVENUE ANIMAL CLINIC IN SHERWOOD. CURRENTLY, I'M THE OWNER OF SOMERS AVENUE ANIMAL CLINIC IN NORTH LITTLE ROCK. I ALSO DO A VACCINE CLINIC FOR ARKANSANS FOR ANIMALS, WHERE I EXAMINE AND VACCINATE HUNDREDS OF DOGS, MOST OF THEM FROM LOW INCOME FAMILIES. SO, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, I HAVE COME IN CONTACT WITH THOUSANDS OF PITBULLS AND TRULY, MY LOVE FOR THE BREED HAS ONLY GROWN OVER THE YEARS. BASED ON MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES AS A BREED. AND I CAN SPEAK TO MY OWN DOG, MARTHA, WHO IS FULL PIT BASED ON A DNA TEST. BUT IN GENERAL, AS A BREED, THEY TEND TO BE SILLY. THEY'RE GOOFY, THEY'RE PLAYFUL, THEY HAVE THE BIGGEST HEARTS, AND THEY OFTEN HAVE THE BIGGEST SMILES. LITERALLY. THEY'RE ONE OF THE FEW DOGS THAT DO SMILE DESPITE THEIR SIZE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GETS THEM IN TROUBLE IS THAT, LIKE MYSELF, THEY WERE BLESSED WITH ANXIETY BUCKET LOADS OF IT. THE VAST MAJORITY OF PIT BULL DOGS CAN BE WON OVER WITH TREATS, A SWEET VOICE, LOTS OF PRAISE. PLEASE DO NOT YELL AT THEM. THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT. THEY JUST WANT TO MAKE THEIR PEOPLE HAPPY. THEY HAVE ZERO INTEREST IN BEING INDEPENDENT OR SELF-SUFFICIENT. THEY'RE BIG BABIES AND IN MY HANDS AND I GIVE REALLY, REALLY GOOD SHOTS BECAUSE I HATE SHOTS. IF ANYBODY'S GOING TO CRY AFTER A SHOT, IT'S GOING TO BE A PIT

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BULL. THEY'RE JUST BABIES AND I LOVE THEM SO MUCH FOR IT. DON'T GET ME WRONG, THEY CAN BE FIERCELY PROTECTIVE. THE AKC CONSIDERS THEM GUARD DOGS, BUT THEIR GOAL IS TO GUARD THEIR PEOPLE, AND IF THEY CAN TELL THEIR PEOPLE ARE FINE, THEY WILL STAND DOWN IN A HEARTBEAT. THEY DO NOT WANT TO FIGHT, THEY JUST WANT TO KEEP THEIR FAMILY HAPPY AND TOGETHER. PITBULLS CURRENTLY ARE THE MOST POPULAR DOG BREED IN THE UNITED STATES. THERE'S OVER A MILLION OF THEM IN HOUSEHOLDS IN THE US. ONE OF THE STUDIES I FOUND SAID THAT THEY WERE THE SEVENTH MOST POPULAR BREED. THAT VARIES BASED ON WHO'S DOING THAT STUDY, BUT THEY'RE IN THE TOP TEN FOR THE PAST DECADE. ANOTHER SURVEY REVEALED THAT 71% OF PITBULL OWNERS CONSIDER THEIR DOGS PART OF THE FAMILY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER 29% OF PEOPLE ARE DOING. BUT I WAS. I WATCHED LAST MONTH'S MEETING, AND LAST MONTH YOU GUYS TALKED A WHOLE LOT ABOUT DNA. DOG BREEDS ARE NOT JUST A LOOK OR EVEN A DNA TEST. LESS THAN 1% OF A DOG'S GENETIC MAKEUP DETERMINES HOW IT LOOKS.

THAT IS VERY, VERY, VERY LITTLE OF THEIR GENETIC CODE. ONLY 9% OF A DOG'S BEHAVIORAL TRAITS CAN BE GENETICALLY ATTRIBUTED TO THEIR BREED. THAT'S PROVEN IN RESEARCH STUDIES, CONFIRMS THAT BREED HAS MINIMAL IMPACT ON BEHAVIOR. A STUDY IN 2022 REVEALED THAT 70% OF AMERICANS OPPOSE BREED SPECIFIC BANS. MOST IMPORTANTLY TO ME, AND THIS SHOCKED ME, 4% OF US CITIES AND TOWNS ENFORCE BREED SPECIFIC LEGISLATION IN THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES. THAT'S 800, INCLUDING SHERWOOD, 800. THERE ARE 22 STATES IN THE UNITED STATES THAT HAVE MADE IT ILLEGAL TO ENFORCE BREED SPECIFIC LEGISLATION. ONE OF THE THINGS I LOVED ABOUT SHERWOOD WHEN I LIVED HERE IS THAT WE ARE PROGRESSIVE, FRIENDLY. I LOVED THE CITY OF SHERWOOD. THERE IS NO WAY I CAN IMAGINE SHERWOOD BEING PART OF A 4% THAT IS RAPIDLY DROPPING. THERE IS NOTHING MOVING FASTER IN THE UNITED STATES THAN DROPPING BREED SPECIFIC LEGISLATION. PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE IN REPEATED STUDIES BY THE CDC AND THE AMERICAN VETERINARY MEDICAL ASSOCIATION, BREED DOES NOT HAVE ANY EFFECT ON PREDICTABILITY OF BITES. THE CDC USED TO DO THAT STUDY EVERY YEAR. THEY QUIT DOING IT 20 YEARS AGO BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T PROVE ANY RELEVANCE TO IT AT ALL. THEY QUIT DOING IT. THERE WAS A REALLY FUN STUDY I JUST FOUND IN GERMANY. THE VETERINARY SCHOOL THERE DID A HUGE RESEARCH STUDY WHERE THEY TOOK THE TOP BREED SPECIFIC LEGISLATION BREEDS AND PUT THEM THROUGH A VARIETY OF INTERACTIONS TO TEST WHEN AND IF THEY WOULD SHOW AGGRESSION. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CONTROL GROUP FOR ANY GOOD STUDY. THEIR CONTROL GROUP WAS GOLDEN RETRIEVERS BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS THEY'RE HAPPY. THEY'RE THE SWEETEST DOGS IN THE WORLD. 80 GOLDEN RETRIEVERS. THIS STUDY FOUND THAT GOLDEN RETRIEVERS WERE JUST AS LIKELY TO SHOW AGGRESSION AS BULLY BREEDS. THE CAVEAT TO THAT IS THAT NEITHER GROUP SHOWED MUCH AGGRESSION. I THINK ONE GROUP WAS 96%, ONE GROUP WAS 98%. SO IT WAS REALLY, REALLY HARD TO EVEN FORCE BULLY BREEDS OR GOLDEN RETRIEVERS TO SHOW AGGRESSION. TRULY, IN MY OPINION, PITBULLS HAVE AN IMAGE PROBLEM MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. WHEN THE NEWS HIGHLIGHTS A BITE THAT INVOLVES A PIT, THEY USE THE PICTURE OF THE FIGHTING DOG. WE'VE ALL SEEN IT. BIG MUSCLES HUNCHED LOW TO THE GROUND, CROPPED EARS, BIG OLD THICK STUDDED COLLAR. IT'S JUST NOT ACCURATE. IT DOESN'T REPRESENT THE POPULATION OF DOGS THAT ARE OWNED, BUT IT'S COMPELLING.

STIRS EMOTIONS. WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE, I RESEARCHED THE ANIMAL RIGHTS MOVEMENT, DID A WHOLE BIG RESEARCH PROJECT ABOUT THE ANIMAL RIGHTS MOVEMENT AND ANIMAL WELFARE, AND IT WAS PROVEN THAT THE SUCCESS OF PETA IN THE 1990S WAS IN LARGE PART BECAUSE THEY CHOSE BUNNY RABBITS AS THEIR SPOKESMAN WAS COMPELLING TO SEE FLUFFY, ADORABLE BUNNY RABBITS ON A BILLBOARD WITH AN EYE THAT WAS BLEEDING. IF THEY HAD CHOSEN PICTURES OF MICE OR RATS, IT'S PRETTY UNLIKELY THAT ANYONE WOULD CARE ABOUT COSMETIC TESTING ON ANIMALS OR WEARING

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FUR. IT'S BECAUSE PETA CHOSE BUNNY RABBITS. I THINK THE SAME THING HAPPENED WITH PITBULLS IN THE LAST DECADE. WE MADE THEM LOOK SCARY. SO THE PUBLIC THRIVES ON SCARY. ANYBODY WHO'S EVER KNOWN PITBULLS KNOWS THAT'S NOT THE WAY THEY ARE. I FOUND A LIST ONLINE OF ORGANIZATIONS WHO WEREN'T AFRAID TO OPENLY OPPOSE BREED SPECIFIC LEGISLATURE. THE CDC, I ALREADY MENTIONED BECAUSE THEY QUIT EVEN DOING THE STUDIES. THE AMERICAN VETERINARY MEDICAL ASSOCIATION, SOMEBODY SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT THE CITY BEING WORRIED ABOUT GETTING SUED. ONE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT OPENLY OPPOSES BREED SPECIFIC LEGISLATURE IS THE AMERICAN BAR ASSOCIATION. SO IF THE LAWYERS WON'T EVEN DO IT, WHAT ARE WE DOING? AND I CAN SAY THAT BECAUSE MY HUSBAND'S A LAWYER, THE ASSOCIATION OF PROFESSIONAL DOG TRAINERS, THE HUMANE SOCIETY, THE ASPCA, FUN ONE FOR ME WAS STATE FARM, WHICH IS THE LARGEST PROPERTY INSURANCE CARRIER IN THE US.

WHEN I WAS POKING AROUND, SURPRISINGLY, STATE FARM'S WEBSITE EVEN INCLUDES BLOG POSTS ABOUT THEIR OWN AGENTS AND THE RESCUED PITBULLS THAT THEY OWN AND LOVE, WHICH INCLUDED THE STATEMENT FROM STATE FARM ALL DOGS CAN BE GREAT DOGS, REGARDLESS OF BREED, IF THEY ARE PROPERLY CARED FOR, LOVED AND TRAINED. STATE FARM DETERMINES RISK BASED ON A DOG'S BITE HISTORY RATHER THAN BREED, AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS SO COMPELLING. AND TRULY, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE ALL JUST WISH SHERWOOD WOULD DO AS WELL. SO THAT'S IT. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH, I APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WELL, I'M GOING TO NOT APOLOGIZE FOR GETTING EMOTIONAL BECAUSE AS YOUR CITY COUNCILWOMAN, I FEEL WHAT YOU FEEL. SO I DIDN'T GET INTO THIS BECAUSE I NEED IT I GET IN I GOT INTO IT BECAUSE I FELT LIKE MY CITY NEEDED ME. AND I FEEL FOR THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'VE BEEN BITTEN BY, A PITBULL OR ANY DOG THAT PULLS AT MY HEARTSTRINGS. I FEEL FOR ALL OF YOU THAT ARE BEING DICTATED BY AN ANTIQUATED LAW, AND THERE'S AN ABUSE OF POWER GOING ON UP HERE THAT'S KEEPING YOU FROM LIVING A PERSONAL LIFE THAT YOU'RE ENTITLED TO IN AMERICA.

SO I FEEL A LOT OF THINGS, AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I THINK IT'S OKAY TO FEEL THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF I DON'T FEEL WHAT YOU'RE FEELING, THEN I DON'T DESERVE TO BE UP HERE. SO AS YOUR CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE, I SHOULD NOT HAVE THE POWER TO DICTATE WHICH TYPE OF DOG YOU CAN HAVE IN YOUR HOME, OR HOW MANY ANIMALS YOU CAN HAVE IN YOUR HOME. AS A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF SHERWOOD, I DON'T WANT TO PERSONALLY BE TOLD HOW MANY FUR CHILDREN I CAN HAVE IN MY HOME OR WHAT BREED I'M ALLOWED TO HAVE, SO I SEE IT FROM BOTH SIDES. THIS, TO ME, EPITOMIZES GOVERNMENT OVERREACH. Y'ALL ELECTED US, AND IT IS CLEAR TO ME THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE CITY OF SHERWOOD IS COMING AND SPEAKING THAT THEY WANT THIS OVERTURNED FOR THE WOMAN THAT WAS PROTECTED BY HER DOG. YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL. THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO KEEP HER FROM BEING PROTECTED BY SOMETHING THAT PROTECTED HER FROM A REALLY DANGEROUS SITUATION. I SHOULDN'T HAVE THAT KIND OF POWER. NONE OF US SHOULD. WE'VE TOLD INCREDIBLE PEOPLE. YOU'RE NOT WELCOME IN SHERWOOD. I'D LOVE TO HAVE DOCTOR HOLLY IN MY BACKYARD. SHE'S THE KIND OF NEIGHBOR THAT IF YOU NEED AN EGG OR SOME SUGAR OR YOUR DOG IS SICK, YOU'D RUN TO HER HOUSE REAL FAST. TERRI SINGER MOVED OUT OF THE CITY OF SHERWOOD FIVE YEARS AGO BECAUSE SHE WANTED A PIT BULL. WE HAVE GOT PEOPLE MOVING OUT OF OUR CITY BECAUSE OF THIS BAN. HER KIDS STILL LIVE HERE. HER KIDS STILL LIVE IN SHERWOOD. I THINK THAT IT IS CLEAR WHAT WE NEED TO DO TONIGHT, AS THE LEGISLATIVE BODY OF THE CITY OF SHERWOOD, I THINK IT IS TIME FOR US TO TAKE A STAND ON SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN CONTROLLING OUR CITY, OUR RESIDENTS, FOR ENTIRELY TOO LONG. YOU KNOW WHY? IT'S EMOTIONAL? BECAUSE GOD GAVE US DOGS AS A THERAPY METHOD. YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO CONVINCE ME THAT A DOG IS BORN BAD. BE LIKE TELLING ME A BABIES BORN BAD. GET OUT OF HERE. COME ON NOW, GET OUT OF HERE. SO I THINK GOD GAVE US DOGS AND HE GAVE US ANIMALS TO HELP US COPE WITH THIS WORLD. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? I

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DON'T WANT TO TAKE THAT AWAY FROM ANYBODY. I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THAT. THAT JOY, THAT LOVE, THAT DEVOTION, THAT PROTECTION AWAY FROM ANY SINGLE ONE OF YOU. SO I WANT IT TO BE KNOWN THAT I HEAR YOU. I SEE YOU THANK EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU FOR COMING UP TONIGHT AND SPEAKING SO BEAUTIFULLY. THANKS FOR HANGING IN THERE FOR A YEAR. THIS IS A LONG TIME. TWO YEARS. I KNOW.

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME. THANK YOU FOR HANGING IN THERE AND MY TONIGHT. IS THAT MY OTHER CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE, THE RESIDENTS OF SHERWOOD, AND THAT WE OVERTURN THE PITBULL BAN? YES. OKAY. PLEASE. NO CLAPPING OR RESPONSES. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? WELL. I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY WHO HAS GOTTEN UP AND SPOKEN TONIGHT. AND FOR THE RECORD, I THINK THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE JUNE. IF I'M CORRECT IN SAYING SO. JUST FELT LIKE TWO YEARS. IT FEELS LIKE A LIFETIME, BELIEVE ME. BUT IT HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE JUNE. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH. WE'VE BEEN THROUGH TWO CITY COUNCILS. WE'VE HAD THREE OTHER PEOPLE UP HERE WHEN THIS STARTED, AND WE GOT THREE NEW LADIES UP HERE. NOW WE'RE TO BRING IT HOME. YES, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM THAT ARE FOR LIFTING THE BSL, BUT WE HAVE 33, 34,000 RESIDENTS IN THE CITY OF SHERWOOD, AND WE CAN'T POSSIBLY FIT THEM ALL IN THIS ROOM. SO WE DON'T HAVE EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM TONIGHT EXPRESSING THEIR OPINIONS. WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF EMAILS, ALL OF US FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE. POSSIBLY EVERYBODY DOESN'T KNOW ALL THE EMAILS OR PHONE CALLS OR TEXTS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM OUR INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS IN OUR WARDS. I KNOW THAT A LOT OF TALK HAS BEEN ABOUT ALL THE ANIMALS THAT HAVEN'T GOTTEN ADOPTED. I DID CALL TODAY, AS I DID LAST MONTH, AND THERE ARE THERE WERE WHEN I CALLED TODAY, 32 DOGS IN THE SHELTER, WHICH IS AT CAPACITY. OF THOSE, SIX WERE 6 OR 7. THEY WERE NOT SURE, BUT 6 OR 7 WERE PIT OR PIT MIXES. FOR THOSE THAT ARE NOT AWARE, AT THIS TIME, WE DO NOT HAVE A SUPERVISOR AT THE SHELTER AND WE ONLY HAVE FOUR EMPLOYEES, SO THEY'RE VERY SHORTHANDED. SO IT'S. WE DO HAVE CAPTAIN HARTMAN WHO OVERSEES THE SHELTER, AND THAT TAKES HER AWAY. I KNOW FROM OTHER DUTIES THAT SHE PROBABLY NEEDS TO DO ALSO. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT THIS WHOLE THING, WE'RE GOING TO NEED A LOT MORE EMPLOYEES. AND WE CAN'T EVEN KEEP UP WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE NOW. SO I'M WORRIED ABOUT A LOT OF THIS. ALSO, I WILL AGREE WITH MY COUNCIL MEMBER, MISS TREAT HERE AND THE RESIDENT OF MY WARD, HILLARY, THAT I DO SEE WAVING AT ME OVER HERE THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT A LIMIT ON THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME FROM OR HOW THAT ALL CAME ABOUT. FOR INSTANCE, SHE HAS QUITE A BIT OF LAND ON HER PROPERTY. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME ABOUT. THAT FOUR WAS THE LIMIT FOR THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE HERE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT. LIKE I'VE SAID LAST MONTH, THIS WHOLE ORDINANCE IS A LOT MORE THAN JUST BSL, BUT IT'S ALL WE'RE FOCUSED ON. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW. I'M SURE EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SOMETHING TO SAY ACROSS THE WAY, BECAUSE I THINK EVERYBODY ON THIS SIDE HAS ALREADY SAID SOMETHING. BUT WHEN THIS IS ALL SAID AND DONE, I DO HOPE THAT WE REVISIT THIS ORDINANCE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT MORE TO IT THAN JUST THE BSL. SO GO AHEAD ACROSS THE WAY. WELL, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK THANKS, EVERYBODY THAT CAME OUT TONIGHT AND SPOKE AND I IT'S OBVIOUS THAT EVERYONE IS PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS SUBJECT. BUT I WILL SAY I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS THAT I GOT FROM PEOPLE FROM THE OTHER SIDE. I WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT I HEAR THEM AS WELL, AS WELL AS THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THIS ROOM, BECAUSE, AS YOU SAID, WE WERE ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE. AND SO WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO ALL THE PEOPLE, NOT JUST THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE ROOM. SO I WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT THAT THEY'RE HEARD. I DID I DO HEAR THEM. THIS IS A TOUGH SUBJECT. I DON'T KNOW REALLY WHICH WAY I AM ON IT. I KNOW THIS DOES ADDRESS A LOT OF THINGS THAT THAT DO NEED TO BE CHANGED. SO AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, THE CURRENT

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LEGISLATION IS NOT BEING ENFORCED RIGHT NOW. WE DO NEED TO GET SOMETHING TO GIVE OUR, OUR OFFICERS OR SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN ENFORCE. WE DO NEED TO BE SOME CHANGES. WHAT THOSE CHANGES NEED TO BE. I THINK WE JUST GOT TO GO THROUGH THAT TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH WHAT THAT IS. BUT AGAIN, I'M OPEN EARS. I WANT US TO WALK THROUGH THIS THING AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO FOR OUR CITIZENS, FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS. I DO APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS. AND IT IS A IT IS A HOT BUTTON TOPIC FOR SURE. I DID CALL TODAY. I KNOW THAT WE PROBABLY ALL READ THE ARTICLE IN THE LEADER AND ON THE BACK BACKSIDE OF THAT IT TALKED ABOUT INSURANCE. WELL, I DID NOT THINK OF THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE DID. I PRESUME THAT WE DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT A WHOLE LOT, BECAUSE WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT IN HERE FOR 100,000, IT WAS 500,000. SO I CALLED MY INSURANCE CARRIER JUST TO SEE WHAT THE IF THERE WERE LIMITS AND THERE WERE. AND SO JUST JUST FOR MY INSURANCE ALONE, IF I HAD DECLARED THAT I HAD CERTAIN BREEDS BEFORE I BOUGHT MY HOME, THEY WOULD HAVE I WOULD HAVE BEEN INELIGIBLE FOR THEIR COVERAGE. AND THEN THEY DO ALLOW IF I BUY A DOG AFTERWARDS, IT'S ON THEIR LIST. THEN THEY CAP IT AT 50,000. SO WHILE PLACES ARE ARE MAYBE DOING AWAY WITH BSL LANGUAGE, I DON'T KNOW THAT INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE DOING THAT. AND SO I DO THINK THAT INSURANCE COMPANIES DO NOT USE EMOTION IN THEIR DECISIONS. I THINK THEY'RE USING STATISTICS AND NUMBERS, AND THAT'S WHY THEY ARE PUTTING SPECIFIC BREEDS ON THERE. BECAUSE THEY ARE EITHER RESPONSIBLE FOR MORE BITES OR THOSE BITES ARE MORE DETRIMENTAL, WHICH COST MORE FOR INSURANCE COMPANIES. SO YOU KNOW THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS HAS IMPACTED ME. I DID WRITE DOWN JUST A COUPLE COMMENTS, AND I REALLY APPRECIATED, I THINK, IS IT MISS CAROL CULPEPPER? I REALLY APPRECIATED YOUR COMMENTS AND I'D LOVE TO PICK YOUR BRAIN LATER, BUT. ONE THING THAT SHE SAID THAT STOOD OUT TO ME WAS THAT THAT'S A DOG. THEY ARE ANIMALS, AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE PERSON KNOW HOW TO REACT WITH EACH DOG. AND I JUST MY CONCERN WOULD BE THAT EVERY PERSON WOULDN'T. SO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE ARE PASSIONATE AND THEY THEY LOVE THEIR ANIMALS. LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE LOVE OUR CHILDREN, BUT THAT MAY NOT BE ACROSS THE BOARD. AND SO WHEN YOU HAVE EITHER LARGER DOGS OR DOGS THAT CAN DO MORE DAMAGE, THAT'S A LIABILITY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE TWO EXAMPLES WHERE I KNEW THESE PEOPLE PERSONALLY, ONE IN LITTLE ROCK AND ONE IN CABOT. THEY WERE INSIDE PETS. AND SO ONE ONE SPEAKER SAID, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE DOG OWNERS AND WE WOULD NOT ALLOW OUR PITBULL TO INJURE OR HURT SOMEONE OR ANOTHER DOG. BUT THE TWO EXAMPLES, THE ONE IN LITTLE ROCK AND THE ONE IN CABOT THAT THE OWNERS, THEY COULDN'T STOP IT BECAUSE THE DOGS JUST JUTTED OUT THE DOOR. AND SO. AND THEY INSTINCTIVELY WENT AFTER THE DOG ON THE LEASH. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I HAVE NOT I HAVE VOICED CONCERNS ABOUT IT SINCE WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT IT IN JUNE, AND I STILL HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS. IT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT. SO WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, DID YOU JUST TALK TO ONE INSURANCE COMPANY OR DID YOU GET MULTIPLE EXAMPLES? I ONLY TALKED TO MINE. OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THAT. I'M IN THE INSURANCE BUSINESS AND ACTUALLY, AS TRAGIC AS IT IS, I SPOKE WITH DYLAN EBERLE ABOUT THIS. SO GOD IS MY WITNESS. I CALLED HIM ABOUT A MONTH AGO AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. THEY'RE AN INDEPENDENT AGENCY, WHICH MEANS THAT HE CAN LOOK AT MULTIPLE INSURANCE CARRIERS TO LOOK AT THEIR RULES REGARDING THIS. AND HE CONFIRMED TO ME THAT THERE ARE PLENTY OF CARRIERS THAT DON'T HAVE ANY TYPE OF BREED SPECIFIC LANGUAGE OUT THERE. SO THEY, LIKE DOCTOR HOLLY MENTIONED THEY WOULD LOOK AT BITE HISTORY. SO IF YOU'VE GOT AN AGGRESSIVE CHIHUAHUA, YOU'D BE A PROBLEM. BUT IF YOU'VE GOT A NON AGGRESSIVE PITBULL IT'S A ZERO. SO HE LOOKED AT THAT SPECIFICALLY FOR ME AND GAVE ME MULTIPLE OPTIONS ON CARRIERS, EVEN SOME THAT HE DIDN'T REPRESENT. HE CALLED SOME FRIENDS THAT WERE IN CAPTIVE AGENCIES AND CAN ONLY SELL FOR CERTAIN CARRIERS. THAT SAID NO, THAT'S NO PROBLEM. WE DON'T HAVE ANY BREED SPECIFIC LANGUAGE IN OUR POLICIES. SO I HAVE MET WITH THE RESIDENTS OF SHERWOOD, AND HERE'S WHAT I KNOW. THEY'RE SO

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PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS. THEY DON'T GIVE TWO HOOTS IF IT COST THEM $200 A YEAR TO HAVE THEIR PITBULL, THEY DON'T CARE. THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO LIVE IN THE CITY OF SHERWOOD AND HAVE THEIR DOG WITHOUT HAVING TO TAKE ANY FLACK FROM ANYBODY, OR THE THREAT OF SOMEBODY COMING AND GETTING THEIR BABY. SO TAKE MY MONEY. INSURANCE COMPANY. OKAY? WHAT DO YOU WANT NOW? YOU WANT ME TO GO REGISTER? COOL. THERE MIGHT BE SOME THINGS ABOUT THIS THAT WE HAVE TO CHANGE AND AMEND OVER TIME. THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION IN HERE, BUT I'LL TELL YOU ONE THING. THOSE DETAILS TONIGHT FEEL LIKE A ZERO COMPARED TO THE FACT THAT THEY'RE READY FOR US TO VOTE ON THIS. SO IF WE NEED TO COME BACK IN THREE MONTHS AND GO, OKAY, HOW'S THIS WORKING? HOW IS IT BEING POLICED, HOW WELL ARE WE ABLE TO ACTUALLY FOLLOW UP ON THIS AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER? DO THEY HAVE THE FUNDS THAT THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO PROPERLY MAINTAIN THESE RULES? WE'RE HERE FOR THAT. WE ARE ABSOLUTELY HERE FOR THAT. BUT WE'RE WE'RE NOT HERE FOR US KICKING THE CAN AGAIN. OUR CITY DESERVES A VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT. SO THEN THAT WAY WE CAN KNOW WHERE WE'RE WE'RE HEADED AND REVIEW THE REPORTS, YOU KNOW, AND SEE, YOU KNOW, AS I HAD STATED LAST MONTH, YOU KNOW, IN 2023, WE HAD 20 POLICE REPORTS ON DOG BITES. 12 OF THEM WERE NON PITS. AND 2024 WE HAD 26. 19 OF THOSE WERE NON PITS AND THEN THE EIGHT AND THE SEVEN RESPECTIVELY WERE PIT MIXES BECAUSE THEY OFFICERS DIDN'T REALLY KNOW. SO I MEAN IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION OF YOU KNOW BANNING A BREED BASED ON CHARACTERISTICS, THEN IT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE EXPANDED AND INCLUDE MULTIPLE OTHER DOGS UNDERNEATH THAT UMBRELLA WITH THE SAME TYPE OF PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS, BECAUSE THAT IS CURRENTLY THE ONLY DEFINITION THAT WE HAVE IN THE ORDINANCE. IT'S BASED OFF OF WHAT THEY PHYSICALLY LOOK LIKE. I WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. I DO APPRECIATE THE PEOPLE WHO CAME TO SPEAK, AND I DO. I DO KNOW THERE'S SOME PEOPLE IN MY WARD AND SOME RESIDENTS HERE TODAY THAT I THOUGHT WERE GOING TO SPEAK, BUT WHEN I WAS WALKING IN, I SAW THEM HERE AND I THOUGHT, ARE YOU GOING TO TALK? AND THE COMMENT WAS, I DON'T WANT TO TALK, BUT PLEASE KEEP THIS THE WAY IT IS. THEY WANT THE BAN THERE IN THE LANGUAGE. THEY SAID, I KNOW I'M GOING TO BE OUTNUMBERED, SO I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK. BUT LIKE SHELBY WAS TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE. I MEAN, I HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FOLDER. THESE ARE THE EMAILS THAT I'VE GOTTEN REGARDING THIS AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WE THAT HAVE CALLED ME TODAY IS RIGHT AROUND 16 TO 18, AND FOUR OF THEM WERE FOR HAVING THE NEW ORDINANCE. THE OTHERS WERE FOR KEEPING THE BAN. SO IN WARD THREE, THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL ISSUES THERE. WE HAD A LADY WHO CALLED ME TWICE TODAY WHO WAS WALKING HENSON TRAIL OVER BY PICKTHORN PARK, AND THEY ACTUALLY CALLED ME WITH ANOTHER COUPLE, CALLED ME THE DAY THIS OCCURRED. AND I DID CALL THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THERE WERE TWO GENTLEMEN WALKING, TWO PITBULLS, NOBODY, NO, NOT ON A LEASH. AND THEY HAD THEIR DOG ON A LEASH AND THEY SAID THEY MENTIONED SOMETHING TO HIM, NOT THAT IT WAS A PITBULL, BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOUR DOG'S SUPPOSED TO BE LEASED IN SHERWOOD. AND THEN THEIR DOG STARTED GETTING AGGRESSIVE AND THEY SAID, HEY MAN, GET YOUR DOG. HE'S GOING FOR MY DOG. AND THEY, ACCORDING TO THE STORY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF AN OWNER NOT MISTREATING AND PICKED UP HIS PITBULL AND THREW IT. SO I MEAN, THAT'S IF YOU HAVE A LEASH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PICK YOUR DOG UP, YOU DON'T HAVE TO THROW IT. SO THAT WAS WE DO HAVE OWNERS THAT ARE IRRESPONSIBLE AND DON'T NEED TO HAVE ANY KIND OF A DOG, BUT THESE PEOPLE FELT THREATENED ON THE TRAIL WALKING THEIR DOG THAT THEY WALK EVERY DAY BECAUSE TWO PEOPLE HAD TWO PITBULLS NOT ON A LEASH. THE OTHER PERSON THAT CONTACTED ME BECAUSE I THROW MY GLASSES DOWN WAS WITH REGARD TO. ONE OF THE REAL ESTATE AGENTS.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SOME THINGS, AND SHE'S GOT A REAL ESTATE COMPANY HERE IN TOWN. AND I ASKED HER, I SAID, HAVE YOU HAD ANY PROBLEM SELLING HOMES BECAUSE OF HAVING THE PIT BULL BAN? AND SHE SAID, NO. AND SHE SAID, I HAVE ONE QUESTION TO ASK THE COUNCIL. I SAID, OKAY. SHE SAID, WHAT STEVE, YOU MAY HAVE WAS IT 2018 OR 14 WHEN THE BAN WENT IN? THE BSL PART OF THE BAN WAS THAT WHEN WE MADE THAT LEGISLATION OR BEFORE THAT, IT WAS MUCH OLDER THAN THAT. MUCH OLDER THAN THAT. OKAY. AND I TOLD HER IT WAS BEFORE MY TIME. SO I MEAN, AND THE COMMENT THAT THEY SAID WAS WHY DID IT HAPPEN? WHY WAS THE BAN PUT IN? AND I SAID, BECAUSE IT WAS FOR SAFETY FOR THE RESIDENTS OF SHERWOOD. AND SHE SAID, IF YOU STILL WANT SHE SAID, WHY WOULD YOU CHANGE IT IF SAFETY IS YOUR CONCERN? AND I MEAN, THIS WAS FROM THE REAL ESTATE LADY THAT ASKED ME ABOUT I SAID SHE KNEW WE WERE DISCUSSING IT. SO THAT WAS SAID. THE COMMENT WAS MADE. I EVEN WAS

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HAVING A CONVERSATION BRIEFLY WITH THE CHIEF BEFORE THE MEETING WAS. I TOTALLY LOVE THE AGGRESSIVE PART. I THINK THAT WE THIS AGGRESSIVE LANGUAGE IS GOOD. IF WE KEEP THE CURRENT LANGUAGE, THE AGGRESSIVE NEEDS TO GO INTO IT. IF WE KEEP THE BSL BUT THE AGGRESSIVE PART NEEDS TO BE IN THERE. BUT I HAD A QUESTION BECAUSE ENFORCEMENT IS A CONCERN. DO YOU AS A POLICE OFFICER HAVE TO SEE IT BECAUSE WE HEAR STORIES WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE HIS WORD AGAINST HER WORD, AND UNLESS AN OFFICER SEES IT, CAN IT BE IS IT AGGRESSIVE? AND THAT I DON'T KNOW IF WE EVER REACH THE IF I GOT IF I UNDERSTOOD THE ANSWER? WELL, I THINK THAT'S WITH ANYTHING IN LIFE YOU GO TO A DOMESTIC DISPUTE AND IT'S THE HUSBAND AGAINST THE WIFE. EXACTLY. IT'S CHIEF HAGER HERE. AND DID WHAT? OH, THERE. WHAT DID DID WE FINISH THAT DISCUSSION ON THAT? WE'RE REQUIRED TO ACT UNDER THE UNDER THE RULES OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURE. I MEAN, WE CAN WE CAN'T MAKE AN ARREST ON A MISDEMEANOR OR BELOW THAT. WE DON'T WITNESS THAT. THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. THERE WOULD BE. BUT IN ANY CASE, WHETHER IT'S I DON'T CARE IF IT'S AN ANIMAL, IF IT'S A, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, WHATEVER THE CRIME, THERE WOULD BE AN INVESTIGATION.

BUT WE'RE BOUND BY RULES OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURE. SO. OKAY. AND I AND I WILL SAY COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS, YOU KNOW, CAMERAS ARE A LOT MORE PREVALENT NOW. THEY'RE YOU KNOW, WE'VE DEALT WITH A SITUATION WHERE IT WASN'T A PIT BUT AN AGGRESSIVE DOG. AND THEY LIKE SO MANY PEOPLE, PEOPLE HAVE CAMERAS. AND SO IT'S A LOT EASIER NOW. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT I HAD BECAUSE AS I WAS READING THROUGH IT IN THE AGGRESSIVE DOG PART, THEY SAID THE SUPERVISOR OR ANIMAL SERVICE OFFICER DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY A POLICE OFFICER. SO I WAS WONDERING IF A POLICE OFFICER WAS GOING TO BE ABLE TO ISSUE A CITATION OR DO DO SOMETHING.

CHIEF HAGER, IF THEY CAME THERE, WELL, YOU MIGHT AS WELL STAY UP UNTIL WE FINISH THE QUESTION I HAD. I MEAN, THE ANIMAL CONTROL IS UNDER THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. NOW, REPEAT THE QUESTION. I'M SORRY. SO IF POLICE OFFICER GOES OUT AND THERE'S AN AGGRESSIVE DOG, WE THINK IT'S AN AGGRESSIVE DOG. CAN THE POLICE OFFICER DO WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO TO ISSUE THE CITATION OR, OR WHATEVER? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IN THE IN THE RESOLUTION THAT WE HAVE, IT SAYS THE SUPERVISOR OR THE ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICER. SO IS THAT AS A POLICE OFFICER, NORMAL POLICE OFFICER FALL UNDER THAT, OR DO THEY HAVE TO CALL SOMEBODY ELSE IN? YEAH. POLICE OFFICERS CAN THEY CAN THEY CAN ENFORCE AN ORDINANCE. SO AND I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE WHEN WE TOOK OVER ANIMAL CONTROL, I'M NOT A I'M NOT AN ANIMAL EXPERT. BUT I DO UNDERSTAND LAWS OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURE. AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S THIS AND THIS IS ONE OF THE THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT I'VE SAID IN THE PAST. AND I'VE, I'VE PROBABLY SAID THIS TO A LOT OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY, YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM IS AND MISS WILLIAMS USED AN EXAMPLE WITH ME TODAY, THAT IF SHE'S DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD AND SHE GETS STOPPED AND SHE HAS A BAG OF WHITE POWDER IN HER CAR, CAN WE SEIZE IT? YES, WE CAN. IF WE SUSPECT THAT IT'S ILLEGAL SUBSTANCE. BUT WE HAVE A METHOD TO TEST THAT. WE HAVE TEST KITS THAT WE CAN CARRY. I DON'T HAVE A TEST KIT TO TEST A DOG AND SEE WHAT BREED IT IS.

AND TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, MISS WILLIAMS TOLD ME, YOU KNOW, SHE THINKS THAT IF IT LOOKS LIKE A PIT BULL, THEN WE SEIZE IT. WELL, I THINK YOU'VE HEARD TONIGHT THAT WOULDN'T BE A VERY POPULAR THING. AND THE THING ABOUT IT IS, IS, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PROVE THAT IT'S A PIT AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DEFINITION. HOW DO YOU DEFINE WHAT A PIT BULL IS? MY CONCERN IS, AND THIS IS WHAT I'VE, WHAT I'VE EXPRESSED TO SOME OTHERS, ALL I WANT THE REASON THAT WE ORIGINALLY BROUGHT THIS AND Y'ALL VOTED IT DOWN. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE'RE NOT THE ONES THAT BROUGHT THIS THIS TIME. THESE WERE SOME OF THE NEW COUNCIL PERSONS THAT BROUGHT IT. BUT WE NEED SOMETHING THAT THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO TRANSLATE. AND IF A DOG ATTACKS ANOTHER DOG OR A DOG ATTACKS A PERSON, I DON'T CARE WHAT KIND IT IS, WE CAN ACT ON

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THAT. THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ACT ON TO, TO LOOK AT SOMETHING. AND ME TO TELL YOU THAT THAT DOG IS A PIT BULL. THAT DOG IS A COLLIE THAT I, I DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO DO THAT. AND I DON'T HAVE A TEST KIT TO DO THAT. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHERE IT KIND OF BECOMES A LITTLE BIT OF A PROBLEM WITH US, YOU KNOW. BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, AS LONG AS, AS LONG AS WE OVERSEE THE ANIMAL SHELTER, AS LONG AS THEY FALL UNDER US. IF A DOG APPEARS TO BE A PIT BULL MIX, IF OUR ORDINANCE SAYS THAT THEY CAN'T, THAT YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE THEM, THEN WE CAN'T ADOPT THEM OUT. SO AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST GETTING TO THE, YOU KNOW, WE IT HAS BEEN ABUNDANTLY MADE CLEAR TO ME THAT WE DON'T WANT TO BE A KILL SHELTER, THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO EUTHANIZE THE ANIMALS. BUT AT SOME POINT, I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. YOU KNOW, IF WE START SEIZING EVERY ANIMAL THAT LOOKS LIKE A PIT BULL, IF THAT. IF I'M JUST GOING TO IF I'M THE PERSON THAT'S MAKING THE DECISION, I SAY, YEP, THAT LOOKS LIKE A PIT BULL. SEIZE IT. WELL, I MEAN, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO PUT THEM? WELL, I'M JUST SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT THE AGGRESSIVE PART. IF YOUR GUY. YEAH I MEAN THAT'S MY AND THAT WAS THAT WAS OUR POINT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. LET'S ENFORCE ACTION. WELL AND TO CLARIFY YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IF THEY HAVE TO WITNESS IT HAPPEN, I ASSUME IF YOU GO TO A HOUSE WHERE THEY HAVE A COMPLAINT THAT SOMEONE HAS BEEN BITTEN, YOU HAVE THE EVIDENCE OF THE BITE. IS THAT CAUSE ENOUGH TO. YEAH. JUST LIKE ON A YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY USED THE EXAMPLE OF DOMESTIC BATTERY. YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE, IF WE GO AND WE SEE PHYSICAL SIGNS THAT, THAT TOOK PLACE, THEN WE CAN ACT ON THAT. THAT'S THAT'S ACTIONABLE.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO. SO I'M NOT I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. IT'S THIS IT'S JUST A REALLY GRAY AREA IN SOME OF THIS STUFF. BUT YOU CAN'T GO KNOCKING ON DOORS AND SAYING, I HEARD, YOU KNOW, I HEARD. AND IF THE PERSON SAYS NO, I HAVE A TERRIER MIX. SO IF HE CAN KNOCK ON THE DOOR, HE JUST CAN'T GO IN. I CAN KNOCK ON THE DOOR AND ASK. AND IF SOMEBODY SAYS, YEAH, I HAVE A PIT BULL, THEN UNDER OUR ORDINANCE, WE CAN SEIZE IT. NOW THERE IS, THERE IS QUESTION ABOUT AND I WOULD YIELD TO THE CITY ATTORNEY ON THIS. BUT HE'S HE'S AN ATTORNEY NOT ME BUT. I WOULD I WOULD SAY THAT THAT AN ANIMAL IS CONSIDERED YOUR PROPERTY. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO BE ABLE TO, I DON'T KNOW, TO GO INTO A HOUSE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD GO INTO A HOUSE WITHOUT A SEARCH WARRANT. I CALLED JUDGE HILL ON THIS, THAT VERY QUESTION I TOLD YOU, BECAUSE THAT'S ONE THING THAT CHRIS AND I HAD THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT. GO, GO AHEAD AND SAVE IT. YOU GOT TO HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE. WHAT WERE YOU GOING TO SAY? NO, I WAS JUST ABOUT. IS IT PROPERTY? THE PROPERTY QUESTION IS IT A DOG PROPERTY? I THINK SO, YEAH. BUT JUST YEAH. AND IT WAS THE SAME. AND THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE, THE BAG, THE BAG OF I SAID BAKING SODA OR POWDERED SUGAR AND THE THING IT'S PROPERTY. BUT THEY DO HAVE A RIGHT TO SEIZE IT AND THEN TEST IT AND GIVE IT BACK OR WHATEVER. THEY DO HAVE A RIGHT. AND ACCORDING TO JUDGE HALE, IF I INTERPRETED HIM CORRECTLY, THEY DO HAVE A RIGHT TO SEIZE. AND THEN IT COULD BE DECIDED IN COURT WHETHER OR NOT TO GIVE IT BACK OR WHATEVER. SO. WELL, Y'ALL WANT TO SEE SOME REAL PROBLEMS IN OUR CITIES, LET ME TELL YOU. START GOING AND KNOCKING ON SOME PEOPLE'S DOORS AND TAKING THEIR DOGS. I'M HEARING. SO GO AHEAD AND GO PICK THEM UP AND LOCK THEM UP FOR MONTHS WHILE YOU FIGURE OUT NO, THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, CAN IT BE ENFORCED IF YOU GOT ENFORCED? IF YOU'RE GOING TO, WHY HAVE AN ORDINANCE IF IT CAN'T BE ENFORCED? WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE NOW. THAT'S WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS CONVERSATION. AND COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS, I WOULD LIKE TO VERY CLEARLY ANSWER THE REALTORS QUESTION, WHY WOULD WE CHANGE IT? WELL, HONEY, WE'RE SITTING ON A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY THAT CAN'T EVEN BE ENFORCED. THAT'S WHY WE'RE CHANGING IT. OKAY, GUYS, I REALLY FEEL LIKE THIS HAS BEEN DEBATED BACK AND FORTH TO CALL THE QUESTION. SECOND, IS THERE A MOTION? YEAH, SHE JUST MADE THE MOTION. I JUST CALL THE QUESTION OKAY. WHO'S SECOND? APRIL. OKAY. OKAY. ROLL CALL PLEASE. WE HAVE A MOTION CALLING THE QUESTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER. I'M NEW AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M VOTING FOR. WHAT IS A CALL TO QUESTION MEAN TO ACCEPT THIS ORDINANCE? OKAY. YOU'RE VOTING FOR OR AGAINST THIS ORDINANCE? IT'S BEEN READ THREE TIMES NOW. THIS IS THE UP OR DOWN ON THIS ORDINANCE. SO IT SO ME VOTING

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YES IS THAT I WANT TO OVERTURN THIS OKAY. YOU YOU ENDED THE DISCUSSION. SO NOW IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE? MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER TREAT. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCCULLOUGH.

ROLL CALL. PLEASE. TREAT. YES. WADE. BRODERICK. NO. TOWNSEND. YES. MCCULLOUGH. YES. BROOKS.

NO. WILLIAMS. NO. THOMAS. NO. HI. NO! PLEASE. CORRECT IT. IT FAILS. FOR THE. OKAY. PLEASE. IF YOU'RE IF YOU ARE EXITING, PLEASE DO SO QUIETLY. WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO MOVE ON.

HOW DARE YOU? ALRIGHT. NEXT UP. NEXT. I WILL ASK FOR. QUIET, PLEASE. IN THE CHAMBER SO THAT WE CAN FINISH WITH THE BUSINESS MEETING. THANK YOU. JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE HAD FOUR. NO. AND THREE. YES. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT IS CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT. SO IT FELL FOR LACK OF

[9. An ordinance adopting a new city of Sherwood employee handbook, and for other purposes (READ 1X at March meeting) (Mayor Heye-Townsell)]

MAJORITY THAT NEXT UP WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER NINE. IF YOU COULD PLEASE AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING A NEW CITY OF SHERWOOD EMPLOYEE HANDBOOK AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. THIS IS THE THIRD READING.

SECOND. READING SECOND. RIGHT. SECOND READING. NO, ACTUALLY THAT IS THE. YES I HAD IT INCORRECT. I'M SORRY. THERE WAS A AN INCORRECT. CORRECT. YEAH. IT GOT MOVED FORWARD BY COUNCIL MEMBER BROOKS. IT DID GET VOTED YES. WE HAD SECOND READING AT MARCH MEETING AND I MISSED THAT.

SORRY I HAD IT WRONG ON MY AGENDA. YOU'RE FORGIVEN. THANK YOU. HOWEVER, WE HAVE SOME FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS. IS THAT CORRECT? AND YOU ALL WERE SENT THOSE. AND IF THOSE ARE ACCEPTED, THEN WE GO BACK TO FIRST READING. SO FIRST CAN WE GO OVER THE AMENDMENTS, THE CHANGES? I BELIEVE THAT THEY WERE PRETTY MINOR. THEY WERE GIVE ME ONE SECOND. I DIDN'T BRING MY PHONE UP HERE AND THAT'S WHERE I HAVE THEM. OH YES MA'AM, I DIDN'T BRING A COPY.

I'VE GOT ONE DEAL. YOU GOT MINE. THANK YOU. SHE SENT IT. YEAH, IT SENT IT. SHE SENT IT TO US TODAY. IT WAS SENT THIS WEEKEND. SUNDAY? YES, AND I APOLOGIZE. THESE WERE SIMPLE, AND I DIDN'T THINK WE'D BE DISCUSSING THEM. I'M SORRY. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE. YEAH. THIS IS YOU GUYS HAVE TWO SUMMARIES. ONE I SENT YESTERDAY.

JUST AN, I GUESS, ADDITIONAL REVISIONS THAT I GOT FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS. AND I DON'T KNOW, DO YOU WANT ME TO GO OVER EACH OF THEM? DO YOU ALL HAVE QUESTIONS? DO YOU WANT DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T WANT TO BORE YOU THAT WERE SENT. IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT.

CAN WE DO A VOTE TO ACCEPT ALL THE AMENDMENTS? AS YOU RECEIVE TO THE DOCUMENT? SO MOVED. I'LL SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER TOWNSEND AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BROOKS.

ROLL CALL, PLEASE. TREAT. YES, WADE BRODERICK I TOWNSEND I MCCULLOUGH I BROOKS I WILLIAMS I THOMAS I OKAY SO NOW IF YOU'LL READ IT AS AMENDED AN AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING A NEW CITY OF SHERWOOD EMPLOYEE HANDBOOK AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES, AS AMENDED. FIRST READING. ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR HR DIRECTOR? I MOVE, WE SUSPEND THE RULES AND HAVE A SECOND READING. SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS TO ADVANCE IT FORWARD AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS ROLL CALL. PLEASE TREAT. YES, WADE BRODERICK I TOWNSEND I MCCULLOUGH I BROOKS I WILLIAMS I THOMAS. AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING A NEW CITY OF SHERWOOD EMPLOYEE HANDBOOK AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES, AS AMENDED. SECOND READING. MAY WE SUSPEND THE RULES AND PLACE IT ON THIRD AND FINAL READING? WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BROOKS TO ADVANCE IT TO THE NEXT READING. IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS? ROLL CALL? PLEASE TREAT. YES. WADE

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BRODERICK I TOWNSEND I MCCULLOUGH I BROOKS I WILLIAMS I THOMAS. AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING A NEW CITY OF SHERWOOD EMPLOYEE HANDBOOK AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES, AS AMENDED. THIRD READING MOVE FOR ADOPTION, AS AMENDED. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR TO MOVE FOR ADOPTION, AS AMENDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BROOKS AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. ROLL CALL. PLEASE TREAT. YES, WADE BRODERICK I TOWNSEND, I MCCULLOUGH I BROOKS I WILLIAMS I THOMAS I THE MOTION PASSES SEVEN

[10. A resolution appointing and reappointing certain persons to serve on various Sherwood Committees (Mayor Heye-Townsell)]

YES AND COUNCIL MEMBER WADE ABSENT OKAY NEXT UP WE HAVE ITEM TEN. THANK YOU COUNCIL. A RESOLUTION APPOINTING AND REAPPOINTING CERTAIN PERSONS TO SERVE ON VARIOUS SHERWOOD COMMITTEES. MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION. SECOND MOTION TO ADOPT BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BRODERICK. ROLL CALL PLEASE. YOU SAID WILLIAMS WAS THE MOTION? YES, MA'AM. AND WHO WAS THE SECOND? BRODERICK OKAY. TREAT. YES. WADE BRODERICK I TOWNSEND I MCCULLOUGH I BROOKS I WILLIAMS I THOMAS. THE MOTION PASSES SEVEN YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WADE ABSENT

[11. An ordinance repealing ordinance 1638 and for other purposes (Mayor Heye-Townsell)]

ITEM NUMBER 11. AN ORDINANCE REPEALING ORDINANCE 1638 AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. FIRST READING.

OKAY. SO BASICALLY, AS I DISCOVERED, THE CITY HAS NOT CONSISTENTLY OVER THE YEARS SINCE I GUESS 2004 WHEN THIS PASSED, HAS ACTUALLY ABIDED BY THIS ORDINANCE. WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT ESTABLISHMENTS THAT WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF IT. I WANT TO DO YOU KNOW WHAT'S RIGHT AND FOLLOW OUR ORDINANCES AS THEY WERE WRITTEN, THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, MICROBREWERY, FOR EXAMPLE, WHICH EVEN CABOT HAS, A MICROBREWERY, WE BECOME VERY, VERY LIMITED AS TO PLACES IN WHICH THEY COULD FEASIBLY GO BECAUSE OF THIS ORDINANCE. AND JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR, WE ALL STATE LAWS SUPERSEDE ANY ORDINANCES WRITTEN. SO THIS, OF COURSE, WOULD FOLLOW ABC. SO IF THERE'S WE'RE NOT GOING AGAINST ANY STATE REGULATIONS. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. DID THIS DID THE STATE LAW USED TO PROHIBIT THIS? HOW MANY FEET BY CHURCHES. AND IS THAT WHERE WE GOT THIS.

THAT'S THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE IT CAME FROM. AND I CHECKED WITH THE ABC. THEY DON'T HAVE THEM ANYMORE JUST ON LIQUOR STORES. SO THIS IS THIS ORDINANCE 2004. YEAH. THIS IS THE ONE THAT'S IN PLACE RIGHT NOW IS AN IMPEDIMENT TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. WE SUSPEND THE RULES IN PLACE ON SECOND READING, SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BROOKS, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BRODERICK TO MOVE IT FORWARD. ROLL CALL. PLEASE TREAT. YES. WADE BRODERICK I TOWNSEND I MCCULLOUGH. BROOKS I WILLIAMS I THOMAS I. AN ORDINANCE REPEALING ORDINANCE 1638 AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. SECOND READING MOVE TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND PLACED ON THIRD READING MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BROOKS. SECOND SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. ROLL CALL, PLEASE TO MOVE IT FORWARD. TREAT. YES. WADE BRODERICK I TOWNSEND I MCCULLOUGH. BROOKS I WILLIAMS I THOMAS I. AN ORDINANCE REPEALING ORDINANCE 1638 AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES SECOND READING I'M SORRY. THIRD READING. SORRY. MOVE FOR ADOPTION. SECOND MOTION FOR ADOPTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BROOKS AND SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS TREAT. YES. WADE BRODERICK, I TOWNSEND, I MCCULLOUGH. BROOKS, I WILLIAMS, I THOMAS I THE MOTION PASSES SEVEN. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WADE ABSENT QUESTION DO WE NEED TO. DO WE NEED TO PAUSE OR ARE WE GOOD TO MOVE FORWARD. OKAY. WE'RE ALMOST DONE. YES. OKAY. I JUST SAW THE TEXT. I'M SORRY.

ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING UNDER OLD BUSINESS? NEW BUSINESS. WE JUST ADDED THIS TO THE AGENDA. DID WE

[13. New Business]

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EVER VOTE ON IT? THE DOT. WE DID THAT FIRST. I KNEW WE ADDED TO THE AGENDA. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE VOTED TO VOTED. YES, MA'AM. WE VOTED ON THAT. OKAY, I WROTE, I DID WRITE, I DID WRITE PAST ON IT. SHERWOOD FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND CITY CLERK. DESTRUCTION DESTRUCTION DOCUMENT DATE IS SET FOR FRIDAY, MAY 16TH AT 8 A.M. DOES A COUNCIL MEMBER NEED TO BE PRESENT? NO, BUT WE NEED SOMEONE TO VOLUNTEER TO SIGN THE DOCUMENT. WHAT'S THAT? MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. WHAT WE'VE DONE IN PAST YEARS IS THAT SO THAT SOMEONE DOESN'T HAVE TO JUST BE THERE STANDING THE ENTIRE TIME, WHILE BOXES OF DOCUMENTS ARE BEING SHREDDED, THAT WE TAKE PICTURES TO SHOW THE AMOUNT THAT'S BEEN SHREDDED, AND YOU RECEIVE A REPORT OF THE ITEMS. AND THEN WE NEED A COUNCIL MEMBER JUST TO SIGN OFF FOR RECORD KEEPING PURPOSES. DO I HAVE A VOLUNTEER FOR THAT? OKAY.

COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS WILL BE DOING THAT. THANK YOU FOR VOLUNTEERING. ANY OTHER NEW

[14. Announcement(s)]

BUSINESS OR MAY I MOVE ON TO ANNOUNCEMENTS? OKAY, GREAT. IT'S BEEN A LONG EVENING. APRIL 30TH.

WE'VE GOT THE SHERWOOD CHAMBER OF COMMERCE ACADEMIC SIGNING DAY. IT'S GOING TO BE 1130 TO 1 P.M. AT THE GREENS OF NORTH HILLS. MAY 1ST. WE'VE GOT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE LEGISLATIVE LUNCHEON. WE HAVE THE COPS KIDS FISHING DERBY MAY 3RD FROM 11 A.M. TO 3 P.M. AT CITY HALL PARKS. THEY WILL HAVE POLLS, BAITS, EVERYTHING. YOU JUST BRING YOUR KID. SO IT'S A IT'S A FREE FUN EVENT. I THINK THEY EVEN HAVE HOT DOGS AND SO FORTH. IT'S A GREAT DAY. MAY 6TH WE HAVE THE MAYOR'S PRAYER BREAKFAST. IT'LL BE AT SHERWOOD FOREST 6:30 A.M, TO BE COMPLETED AT 7:30 A.M. SO EVERYBODY CAN BE AT WORK AT EIGHT. IT WILL BE A VERY UPLIFTING MORNING. WE CAN ALWAYS USE MORE PRAYER. MAY 15TH. WE'VE GOT THE THIRD THURSDAY IN THE PARK. THIS ONE WILL BE RYAN DANIELS, WHO IS A SHERWOOD NATIVE. IT'LL BE FROM 6 TO 8 P.M. AT THE CITY HALL PARK.

WE HAD A FABULOUS FIRST CONCERT. I THINK SOME OF YOU SAW SOME OF THE PICTURES OF IT. MAY 17TH WE HAVE SHRED A THON FROM 9 A.M. TO NOON AT THE SENIOR CITIZEN PARKING LOT, THE SENIOR CENTER PARKING LOT. AND DON'T FORGET THIS APRIL 30TH IS ALSO WE VOTED LAST MONTH. CORRECT? SO IF EVERYBODY WILL PLEASE, PLEASE DISPLAY THEIR FLAGS ON THE 30TH. AND I'VE EVEN REQUESTED THAT WE CHANGE THE TUNNEL OF LIGHTS TO BE REFLECTIVE OF RED, WHITE AND BLUE. AT THIS TIME, I'LL TAKE A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT. SO MOVED. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT BY BROOKS, SECOND BY

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.