Jun 23, 2025 City Council

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WELCOME. TODAY IS JUNE 23RD, 2025. IT IS 6 P.M. IT'S TIME FOR OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETING. TODAY WE'VE GOT PASTOR HUGH YARBROUGH AND HE IS HERE TO DO OUR PRAYER. IF YOU CAN PLEASE COME UP. AND HE IS WITH THE CHRISTIAN ASSEMBLY OF GOD. LET'S PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU TODAY THANKING YOU FOR YOUR GOODNESS AND YOUR GRACE. FOR THE OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE TO GATHER HERE PEACEFULLY AND TO CELEBRATE OUR CITY AND TO CONDUCT THE BUSINESS OF OUR CITY. LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR WATCHFUL CARE OVER OUR TOWN AND OVER OUR NATION. AND TONIGHT, GOD, WE ESPECIALLY PRAY FOR OUR NATION. WE PRAY, LORD, THAT YOU WILL GIVE OUR PRESIDENT WISDOM AND GUIDANCE, THAT YOU'LL WATCH OVER OUR TROOPS AND THAT YOU'LL WATCH OVER OUR NATION. YOU'VE TOLD US IN YOUR WORD, LORD, THAT EXCEPT THE LORD WATCH OVER THE CITY. THE WATCHMEN WAKES IN VAIN. AND SO, LORD, WE'RE THANKFUL THAT WE CAN TRUST IN YOU. AND LORD, WE PRAY THAT YOU'LL BE WITH THE NATION OF ISRAEL TONIGHT. YOU'VE TOLD US THAT WE SHOULD PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM, AND WE DO THAT TONIGHT, GOD ASKING FOR YOUR GRACE TO BE WITH THEM. WE PRAY FOR A QUICK RESOLUTION TO THE CONFLICT. AND LORD, TONIGHT WE COME BEFORE YOU FOR OUR GREAT CITY. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS WONDERFUL PLACE THAT WE CALL HOME. WE THANK YOU FOR THE LEADERSHIP THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US, LORD, FOR THIS GREAT COUNCIL. WE PRAY THAT YOUR SPIRIT WILL GUIDE AND PREVAIL TONIGHT, AND THAT YOU WILL LEAD US INTO YOUR WILL, LORD, THAT YOU'LL GIVE US WISDOM SUPERNATURALLY FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT AND GOD. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED BLESSING. WE PRAY FOR SAFETY FOR OUR POLICE, OUR FIREFIGHTERS, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, FOR OUR CITIZENS. WE THANK YOU. NOW, LORD, WE PRAY ALL OF THESE THINGS TONIGHT. IN JESUS NAME. AMEN. AMEN. PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

ROLL CALL PLEASE. BROOKS, HERE. WILLIAMS. HERE. BRODERICK. HERE. THOMAS. PRESENT. WADE, HERE.

[4. Approval of the minutes of the regular called meeting on May 19, 2025, as transcribed.]

[5. Approval of the minutes of the special called meeting on June 9, 2025, as transcribed.]

[6. May 2025 Financials]

SO AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY I KNOW SOME OF YOU KEEP THOSE PACKETS AND REFER BACK TO THEM SO THAT YOU HAD AND IT'S BEEN FIXED ONLINE AS WELL. AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE A PUBLIC

[7. Public Hearing for the purpose of considering the adoption of an ordinance providing for the issuance and sale of a capital improvement revenue bond for the purposes of paying a portion of the costs of capital improvements, for public works and public safety.]

[8. An ordinance providing for the issuance and sale of a capital improvement revenue bond for the purposes of paying a portion of the costs of capital improvements, including in particular, for public works and public safety; paying the costs of issuance of the bond; providing for the payment of the principal of and interest on the bond; authorizing the execution and delivery of a trust indenture; prescribing other matters relating thereto; and declaring an emergency. (Mayor Heye-Townsell)]

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I'M YOUR BOND COUNSEL FOR THIS PARTICULAR TRANSACTION. IT'S BEEN MY PRIVILEGE TO APPEAR BEFORE YOU MANY TIMES IN THE PAST SINCE. PLEASURE TO BE HERE THIS EVENING. I KNOW YOU HAVE A FULL AGENDA, SO I'LL BE BRIEF. THE ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU, IF APPROVED, WILL AUTHORIZE THE ISSUANCE OF $5,500,000 IN REVENUE BONDS, WHICH ARE SECURED BY THE PLEDGE OF YOUR FRANCHISE TAXES. THIS IS WHAT WE CALL A PARITY BOND WITH BONDS ISSUED BACK IN 2021 THAT HAVE THE SAME SECURITY. I WILL NOT ATTEMPT TO IMPRESS YOU WITH MY KNOWLEDGE OF FINANCIAL MATTERS. THE PLACEMENT AGENT FROM STEVENS ARE HERE, AND THEY CAN CERTAINLY REFLECT UPON THAT. THE PROCEDURE, WHICH WE'D LIKE TO ASK YOU TO CONSIDER AND FOLLOW TONIGHT, IS VERY SIMPLE. THE ORDINANCE SHOULD BE PLACED ON THREE READINGS, WHICH WILL REQUIRE SUSPENSION OF THE RULES. IT SHOULD BE THEN VOTED ON, HOPEFULLY ADOPTION A SEPARATE VOTE ON THE EMERGENCY CLAUSE. AND WE'RE DONE. I'VE MADE ARRANGEMENTS WITH MISS WATSON TO PROVIDE HER WITH A FINAL, CONFORMED COPY OF THE ORDINANCE TOMORROW MORNING, WHICH SHE CAN THEN IMMEDIATELY FORWARD TO THE NEWSPAPER FOR PUBLICATION. ONCE IT'S BEEN PUBLISHED. WE ARE NOW SCHEDULED TO CLOSE THE TRANSACTION ON JULY 30TH, AT WHICH POINT YOU'LL HAVE THE MONEY FOR THE PROJECTS, WHICH ARE YOU'RE PLANNING TO DO. LET ME STEP ASIDE AND ALLOW MISS BURNETT FROM STEPHENS, WHO SERVED AS PLACEMENT AGENT, TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SALE OF THE BOND. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. AS BILL SAID, MY NAME IS LEANNE BURNETT. I AM AN EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT WITH STEPHENS. WE BEGAN TALKING ABOUT THIS ACTUALLY IN 2023. IN NOVEMBER OF 2023, THE CITY COUNCIL PASSED A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF THESE BONDS. SINCE THAT TIME, MICHAEL MCBRIDE, MY COLLEAGUE AT STEPHENS, AND I HAVE BEEN VISITING WITH BOTH YOUR MAYOR AND WITH YOUR FORMER FINANCE DIRECTOR, COLLEEN, OVER THE TIMING OF THE BOND ISSUANCE.

THIS PROJECT BEING FUNDED IS WAS FUNDED BY TWO SOURCES, CASH AVAILABLE FROM THE CITY. AND THEN THIS BORROWING. AND SO THE REASON WHY IT'S BEEN FROM NOVEMBER 2023 TO NOW IS INSTEAD OF INCURRING THAT INTEREST COST WHEN YOU DIDN'T NEED TO, THE CITY USED THE CASH THAT IT HAD AVAILABLE FOR THE PROJECT. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE JUST NOW COMING BEFORE YOU IN 2025 TO ACTUALLY BORROW THE FUNDS. SO ONCE AGAIN, I COMMEND THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL ON, YOU KNOW, REALLY MANAGING YOUR RESOURCES WELL, NOT INCURRING THAT INTEREST COST UNTIL YOU HAD TO.

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EXCEPT YOU'RE DOING BONDS. SO WE TOOK THE 2016 BONDS. WE REFUNDED THEM WITH 2021 BONDS. THE CITY HAD A GROSS CASH FLOW SAVINGS OF $925,000. BY DOING THAT, NET PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS OF OVER 12%. AND I WILL TELL YOU, MOST OF MY CLIENTS MOVE FORWARD WITH REFUNDING WHEN THE NET PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS IS 3 TO 5%. SO YOU WERE OVER 12 AND THE FINAL MATURITY OF THE 2021 BONDS WERE SHORTENED FROM 2038 TO 2033. SO THE FRANCHISE FEE REVENUES THAT THE CITY RECEIVES, WHICH MOST RECENTLY IS JUST OVER $2.1 MILLION, THOSE REVENUES ARE NOW, WITH YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS ORDINANCE, WILL BE USED TO PAY FOR TWO BOND ISSUES, THE 2021 BONDS, AND THEN THESE NEW 2025 BONDS. THE TOTAL PAYMENT WILL BE AROUND $970,000. UNTIL 2034, WHEN THE GOLF LOAN, THE 2016 BONDS ARE PAID OFF AND THEN ALL YOU WILL HAVE LEFT IS THIS 2025 ISSUE. THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? WILL YOU REPEAT THAT NUMBER ONE MORE TIME? YOU SAID THE TOTAL WILL BE 970. CALL IT 972,000 OKAY. AND THE COVERAGE. YES. SO THE REVENUES AVAILABLE FOR THAT DEBT IS 2,158,000. SO WE SAY THAT THAT HAS A COVERAGE OF 222%, WHICH MEANS FOR EVERY DOLLAR IN IN DEBT PAYMENT YOU HAVE $2.22 IN REVENUE COMING IN FROM YOUR FRANCHISE FEES. HAVE THIS PERSON ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IS THIS IS THIS ON TRACK WITH WHAT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE WHEN WE WHEN WE PASSED THIS IN 2023? IT IS IT IS. YEAH. COLLEEN LOOKED AT THAT MANY TIMES. SO YEAH. AND THE 2025 PORTION OF THE 972,000 IS 497,000. AND AS WE'VE DONE WITH ALL YOUR DEBT, WE'LL WE'LL MONITOR THAT. AND IN FIVE YEARS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE CALL DATE COMES UP, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO REFINANCE BECAUSE YOU'LL BE SHORTER, IT'LL GO FROM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY FROM A 15 YEAR TERM TO A TEN YEAR TERM. SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THAT. WE HAD ONE PERSON WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE IS THAT ON EIGHT AND TEN. YES, SIR. I'LL YIELD FOR EIGHT SO I CAN PICK IT UP AT TEN. THAT'S OKAY. YES, SIR. OKAY. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? OKAY. MISS LEON, WILL YOU TELL ME BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAS ASKED THE PURPOSE OF THE EMERGENCY PORTION OF THIS IS SO THAT WE CAN GO INTO THE AGREEMENT WITH THE BANK WHILE THE INTEREST RATE IS THAT IS THAT IS CORRECT. THEY WILL NOT HOLD THIS RATE AND THIS WILL THE EMERGENCY CLAUSE ENABLES US TO CLOSE ON JULY 30TH. THANK YOU. GOOD QUESTION. ALL RIGHT. MOVE,

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[9. Committees/Commissions]

IT ALSO ADDS A BATHROOM. SO THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID AT LAKE CHERRYWOOD. THE TOTAL COST, ESTIMATED COST IS 650,000. THE GRANT IS A 5050 GRANT. WE WOULD BE OVER MATCHING, WHICH ACTUALLY HELPS US IN GETTING THIS GRANT. THE MAXIMUM IS 250. SINCE WE KNOW THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE OTHER ONE, WE ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT. LAST TIME WE GOT 210,000. SO. LEAVING US BEVERLY THERE. HERE'S YOUR YOUR MATH TIME. LET'S SEE. LEAVING US WITH 400 AND. 15,000 RIGHT. 415.

YES. THERE YOU GO. THEY DON'T DECIDE ON THESE. THE PROCESS IS LONG. FIRST YOU APPLY, THEN IT

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ARE THOSE REALLY THERE? YES, MA'AM. THEY ARE. YEAH THEY ARE. I MEAN, MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD SOMETHING. YOU SAID A 5050 GRANT, BUT THEN YOU SAID IT'S GOING TO MAX OUT AT 210 TO 250.

RIGHT? I SAID WE WERE OVER MATCHING, WHICH ACTUALLY HELPS YOUR CHANCES OF GETTING IT.

WE'RE GOING TO PAY MORE THAN 50%. WE'RE PAYING RIGHT AT 66%. THANK YOU. ANYTIME. I GUESS MY ONLY I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THIS SPECIFICALLY, BUT I THINK THERE'S WHAT, MAYBE FOUR, FOUR THINGS TO CONSIDER. SO WHAT MAKES IT HARD IS THAT NONE OF THESE ARE FUNDED. AND THERE USUALLY IS A BIG I MEAN, THERE'S A BIG ASK ON THE OTHER END. SO IT'S GOING TO COME FROM RESERVES OR IT'S HARD AS COUNCIL TO KIND OF LOOK AT EVERYTHING AS A WHOLE AS TO WHAT THE COST ARE GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD. AND I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO HAVE A, A, A STRATEGY OR JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS A GOOD DEAL IS THAT THE DIRECTION THAT WE ARE TRYING TO GO IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS, FOUR YEARS? SO AGAIN, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THIS, BUT AS WE TALK ABOUT THESE FOUR THINGS AND I ALSO FEEL LIKE IF WE APPROVE IT NOW, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NO MONEY COMING OUT, THEY'RE GOING, IF WE GET THE GRANT, THEY'RE GOING TO EXPECT US TO, YOU KNOW. YES. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. IT'LL BE A PART OF NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET THAT WILL BE COMING BEFORE YOU, THAT ACTUAL AMOUNT, BECAUSE WE KNOW HOW MUCH IT WILL BE. CORRECT. WE DID THE SAME THING WITH CHERRY WOOD. THAT WAS. BUT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PLAYGROUND, WHICH WAS A&P FUNDS, WE PUT THIS IN THE BUDGET AND HAD IT BUDGET APPROVED. WE, YOU KNOW, RECEIVED THE LARGEST AMOUNT THAT THEY AWARDED AT THAT TIME. SO IT IS IT WAS GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET. IT'S NOT WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR GENERAL FUND. RIGHT. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT TAKING OUT RESERVES.

ANYTHING OUT OF RESERVES. BLAKE. REMIND REMIND ME HOW MUCH WAS TAKEN OUT OF A&P FOR THAT. FOR THE PLAYGROUND. PLAYGROUND? CHERRYWOOD. QUITE A BIT. QUITE A BIT. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO THAT'S. I GUESS THAT SHOULD START SOON AS WELL. SO I'M GUESS I'M THINKING APRIL AND I ARE PROBABLY BOTH THINKING THAT IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE ANOTHER ASK OF AMP AGAIN TOO. SO MAYBE POSSIBLY NO THERE'S NO BECAUSE THERE'S A PLAYGROUND ALREADY THERE. THERE'S PLAYGROUND ACROSS THE STREET AT BELMONT. BUT I GUESS THE OTHER THING WOULD BE YOU'RE YOU'RE SAYING THAT THIS WOULD BE PUT IN THE BUDGET, EVEN THOUGH BECAUSE WE WON'T PROBABLY WON'T KNOW BY THE TIME WE'RE APPROVING OR JUST TALKING ABOUT A BUDGET IN SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER. SO YOU WOULD PUT IT IN THE BUDGET, ASSUMING WE'RE GOING TO GRANT IT. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. WE SHOULD HAVE A WE SHOULD KNOW BEFORE WE DO THE BUDGET WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE EVEN A FINALIST FOR IT. AND AT THAT TIME, WE SHOULD HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA. I HAD THE PLEASURE, ACTUALLY, OF BEING ABLE TO HOST TWO OF TWO CABINET MEMBERS AND ON FRIDAY AND KIND OF SHOW THEM AROUND, AND ONE OF WHICH WAS THE SECRETARY OF PARKS AND TOURISM, AND I SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE TWO OF OUR THINGS ACTUALLY FALL, ACTUALLY, A COUPLE OF THESE GRANTS DIRECTLY FALL UNDERNEATH HIS PURVIEW. AND SO TOOK HIM AROUND. AND THE OTHER SECRETARY IS DARRELL BASSETT, WHO'S ACTUALLY FROM SHERWOOD. AND HE WAS ABLE TO ACTUALLY SPEAK ABOUT GROWING UP AND GOING TO THIS PARK AND WHAT IT MEANS TO SHERWOOD AND SO FORTH. OVERALL, HE WAS ABSOLUTELY THRILLED. THE SECRETARY WAS, WITH THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY, THOUGHT THAT THESE WERE OUTSTANDING PROJECTS AND ACTUALLY WANTS TO BRING BACK MORE STAFF IN TERMS OF SEEING IT. SO THESE ARE CONSIDERED TO BE VERY WORTHWHILE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING. THE STATE IS VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT. THIS IS THE DIRECTION THAT THEY WANT ALL CITIES IN THE STATE TO GO. DON'T GET ME WRONG, BECAUSE I THINK BEFORE WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT SOME OTHER STUFF AT THE END, TOWARDS THE END OF THIS MEETING, AND A LOT OF OUR PARKS NEED SOME REHABBING BIG TIME. SO I KNOW YOU'VE I KNOW THAT YOU BLAKE'S GOT SOME PLANS IN THE WORKS FOR REHABBING SOME OF THEM. SO THIS ONE IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT IS VERY SORELY NEEDING IT. SO. AND YOU CAN WALK AROUND, LOOK, THE BASKETBALL COURTS, THE FACILITIES OVER THERE, THEY'RE JUST YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE HOW CHERRYWOOD AND I THINK THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING. THE BIGGEST DRIVE FOR US IS IT IS KIND OF PAST TIME TO START DOING SOME OF THESE

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WE WANT TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE THEM BETTER AND WHERE THEY'RE ALL ATTRACTIVE TO THE PEOPLE WHO GO TO THEM. SO I THINK WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB SO FAR. SO THIS WOULD BE ANOTHER GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US. DOES THE 650 INCLUDE THE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES? IT'S PAVEMENT.

IT'S ALL IN. OKAY. AND THERE'S MY CONCERN IS WHEN YOU SAY IT'LL BE IN THE BUDGET, IS IT JUST GOING TO BE AN ADDITION OR ARE WE GOING TO LOOK AT I MEAN, I KNOW WE CAN AS A COUNCIL LOOK AT IF YOU GO BACK, WAS IT TWO YEARS AGO WHEN WE HAD THE UNDER GO AHEAD. YEAH. SO HOW THAT WORKS.

COUNCIL MEMBER WADE IS BASICALLY UNDER THE PARKS BUDGET WHEN WE HAVE DESIGNATED PARK IMPROVEMENTS LIKE WE DID TWO YEARS AGO, IT WILL ACTUALLY HAVE CAPITAL EXPENDITURE FOR AND IT'LL IT'LL LIST IT. SO IT'S ALL LISTED OUT IN IT SO THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE IT AND SO FORTH.

SO IT'S I MEAN YOU'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THOSE DOLLARS ARE GOING THROUGH, RIGHT? I UNDERSTAND KNOWING WHAT THE DOLLARS ARE FOR, BUT ARE WE YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT JUST ARE WE GOING TO ADD $400,000 TO AN EXISTING BUDGET TO COVER THIS AND KEEP THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THOSE THINGS ADD UP AFTER A WHILE RIGHT NOW. SO WHAT WE TRIED TO DO IS, YOU KNOW, WE TRIED TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT PARKS AS WE GO ALONG THE WAY. SO LIKE, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'VE DONE UPGRADES TO SEVERAL OF THE DIFFERENT PARKS, STORE, PARK AND Y'ALL'S WARD AND STONEHILL, STONEHILL, INDIANHEAD HINSON WHERE WE DID THE, THE, THE COURTS. LIKE CHERRYWOOD, WE'RE DEFINITELY TRYING TO MAKE OUR WAY AROUND TOUCHING ON EVERY SINGLE, MAKING IMPROVEMENTS LEFT AND RIGHT. SO BUT IT'S ALL PART OF THE PARKS BUDGET. IT'S NOT IN ADDITION TO JUST LOOKING ON PAGE 13 OF OUR FINANCE STATEMENT, WE APPROVED THIS A WHILE AGO IN THE PARKS BUDGET. YOU HAVE RIGHT AT, YOU KNOW, PARKS REPAIRS, 235,000, CAPITAL DISBURSEMENTS 104. SO YOU'VE GOT THIS YEAR YOU HAD 310,000 IN THE PARKS. YOU'VE ONLY PROJECT CORRECT AND YOU'VE SPENT ALMOST HALF A YEAR, 200,000. SO YOU HAVEN'T SPENT AT ALL. CORRECT. BUT AS LONG AS YOU GET IT IN THERE, THAT IS THE GOAL FOR US TO HAVE IT IN THERE SO EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT IT IS, JUST LIKE WE DID TWO YEARS AGO, IT WOULD BE THE SAME THING. WE DIDN'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE'VE GOT IN THERE BUILT IN TO DO, YOU KNOW, UPGRADES IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, VERONA, FOR EXAMPLE. BUT THIS IS WHEN YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC PARK WITH A MAJOR AMOUNT LIKE THIS, THAT'S WHERE YOU GET IN AND YOU, YOU DESIGNATE. SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THE RESOLUTION, PLEASE? A RESOLUTION EXPRESSING THE WILLINGNESS OF THE CITY OF SHERWOOD, ARKANSAS, TO SUPPORT APPLICATION TO THE ARKANSAS DEPARTMENT OF PARKS, HERITAGE AND TOURISM FOR GRANT FUNDING FOR DURAN PARK. MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION. SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BROOKS WADE. I. MCCULLOUGH. I TREAT I TOWNSEND I BRODERICK I WILLIAMS I THOMAS BROOKS I MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM TEN AN ORDINANCE ENDING THE EXISTING

[10. An ordinance ending the existing 1.3 mills Library Tax, assessing a new 1.3 mills tax on real and personal property as a new millage certifying to the Pulaski County Clerk the new millage to be levied by the City of Sherwood on the taxable real and personal property for the tax year 2025, declaring an emergency and for other purposes (Council Members Brooks, Williams, Thomas, McCullough, and Townsend)]

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I DON'T WANT TO MISPRONOUNCE IT. OKAY. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, SIR. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS MIKE MASSUCCO. I'M A RESIDENT OF SHERWOOD. AND WHAT I HAVE ON THIS ISSUE, I'VE SPOKEN ON IT TWICE BEFORE, AND I JUST MISSED THE PASTURE. BUT I WANTED ALL OF EVERYBODY TO KNOW THE CLOSEST THING TO ETERNAL LIFE ON EARTH IS A CITY MILLAGE. ONCE A MILLAGE IS IMPOSED, IT CARRIES ON FOREVER. OR IF IT'S SUNSETS, IT'S QUICKLY REPLACED WITH ANOTHER MILLAGE. EXAMPLE. THE LIBRARY TAX WILL NOT BE ASSESSED IN 2026, SO LET'S REPLACE IT WITH A NEW EMERGENCY DECLARATION TO INCREASE THE MILLAGE ON OUR PERSONAL PROPERTY AND REAL ESTATE TAXES FOR YOU CIVILIANS OUT THERE. I'M GLAD THEY JUST STRUCK THE EMERGENCY CLAUSE OUT OF THAT. LET ME TELL YOU WHAT THAT WAS. AN EMERGENCY DECLARED IS NECESSARY FOR THE PRESERVATION OF PUBLIC PEACE, HEALTH, WELFARE AND THE SAFETY OF THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY. WHAT THAT TRANSLATES TO IS THE GOAL IS TO RUSH THROUGH THE VOTE AND GET THE LEGAL FILINGS IN PLACE. I WAS PRESENT AND SPOKE AT OUR AUGUST 2024 CITY COUNCIL MEETING REGARDING THIS VERY SAME MILLAGE INCREASE DEBATE.

REMEMBER, MILLAGE IS A SEVEN LETTER SPELLING OF THE WORD TAX THAT IS AUTOMATICALLY EXTRACTED FROM RESIDENTS THROUGH THEIR MORTGAGE PAYMENTS. CITIZENS DON'T PAY MUCH ATTENTION TO THAT PAYMENT UNTIL THEY RECEIVE THEIR ANNUAL ESCROW NOTICE. FOR AN INCREASE IN THE PAYMENT. TO COVER THE COST, SHERWOOD'S RESIDENCE HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE RATES HAVE SKYROCKETED DUE TO THE STORM DAMAGE PAYOUTS WITHIN THE CITY AND STATE. THAT'S PAID THROUGH YOUR MORTGAGE. MINE'S UP 24%, AND I HAVE NEVER HAD A CLAIM ON HOMEOWNER'S INSURANCE. REMEMBER, WE'RE ALL ON FIXED INCOMES AND HAVE TO MANAGE OUR OWN PERSONAL EXPENDITURES. INFLATION IS STILL UP. LOOK AT YOUR GROCERY BILL AND WAGES HAVE BEEN STAGNANT OR RISING AT A SNAIL'S PACE. I DON'T WANT AND I DON'T NEED AN ADDITIONAL INVOLUNTARY DIRECT TAX PLACED ON MY MORTGAGE PAYMENT FOR AN EVERLASTING TIME PERIOD. WHEN I HAVE WHEN I HEAR WE HAVE TO DIVERSIFY OUR REVENUE STREAMS, THAT TRANSLATES TO OUR REVENUE STREAMS ARE DOWN BECAUSE THE CITIZENS HAVE HAD TO TIGHTEN THEIR FINANCIAL BELTS. SO WE NEED TO IMPOSE NEW FEES, NEW MILLAGES OR TAXES TO MAKE UP FOR THE SPENDING DEFICIT WE HAVE. I RECOMMEND TO YOU MEMBERS. WE HAVE $9.2 MILLION AVAILABLE IN RESERVE FUNDS. I SUGGEST YOU ALL SET UP A DOGE CREW, AND MAYBE ASK THE LADY FROM STEVENS TO LEAD IT. AND LET'S LOOK FOR SOME COST SAVINGS OUT OF THE BLOAT THAT WE HAVE IN OUR BUDGET. HOW ABOUT THAT? I'VE NEVER HEARD OF ANYTHING. LET'S CUT EXPENSES, NEVER ONCE. AND JUST REMEMBER WHAT MILTON FRIEDMAN SAID. THERE'S TWO WAYS TO SPEND MONEY IF YOU'RE SPENDING YOUR EXPIRED, SIR. VERY WELL. THANK YOU. NEXT UP IS TOM BROOKS. GOOD EVENING. AND THANK EACH OF YOU WHOM I'VE

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AND IS THAT BETTER? AND I WANT TO TALK TO YOU IN SUPPORT OF THE OF THE 1.3 MILLAGE. AND THE GENTLEMAN JUST SPOKE I THINK ILLUSTRATED THE POINT. I DON'T LIKE TAXES TO GO UP EITHER AT THIS TIME. THIS IS A CHANCE THAT IT WON'T HAPPEN BECAUSE OUR OUR MILLAGE ON THE LIBRARY GOES AWAY AND THIS IS SUBSTITUTED FOR THE 1.3 MILLAGE. YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S WELL KNOWN. IT'S NO SECRET THAT OUR SALES TAX IS FLAT, AND THE 1.3 MILLAGE WILL RESULT IN A DIVERSIFICATION OF INCOME. I WAS PRESIDENT OF THE SHERWOOD CHAMBER SOME 49 YEARS AGO, THE SAME YEAR I WAS ELECTED TO THE SHERWOOD CITY COUNCIL. MOST OF YOU PROBABLY WEREN'T EVEN BORN. BUT NONETHELESS, AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME, AT ANNEXATION PROPERTY OUT ON LANDERS ROAD. AND IN FACT, I USED TO LOVE TO DO ANNEXATIONS, AND I DID THEM EVERYWHERE. BUT WHAT HAPPENED WAS, IS WALMART AND BEST BUY, WHICH WERE THERE, PULLED OUT. THAT REPRESENTED 25% OF OUR SALES TAX. WE HAD ZERO MILLAGE FOR THE GENERAL FUND, SAME AS WE HAVE NOW, AND THE WE HAD FIVE MEALS AND WE LOWERED IT WHEN THE SALES TAX STARTED. BUT WE FOUND THAT THAT WE WERE LIKE PUTTING ALL OF OUR MARBLES IN ONE PARTICULAR BASKET. AND THERE WAS OTHER PROBLEMS, BUT THEY MOVED OUT. IT WAS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT.

AND WE LOST 25% OF OUR OF OUR INCOME. AND THE WE HAVE WE HAVE NO INCOME. WE HAD NO INCOME FROM MILLAGE. NOW, HERE'S ONE OTHER THING. WE ARE THE LOWEST SINGLE MAJOR CITY IN PULASKI COUNTY ON TAXES, I THINK. CHLOE, DO WE HAVE A SLIDE OF THAT? AND YOU CAN SEE THAT AND BE GLAD TO DISCUSS IT WITH YOU. BUT PEOPLE KEEP TALKING ABOUT OUR HIGH TAXES AND SHERWOOD, WHETHER THE LOWEST AND THERE'S A SHEET ALL OF YOU HAVE THAT BECAUSE I PASSED THAT OUT WHEN I, I DROVE ABOUT THE HOUSE, I TALKED TO ALL THE EIGHT ALDERMEN. I TALKED TO THE MAYOR, TALKED TO COBB, ALL INDIVIDUALLY, NEVER MORE THAN ONE AT A TIME. AND. LET ME SEE IF YOU WANT TO SEE THIS THING.

IF YOU CAN'T SEE IT, IT'S RIGHT THERE. SHERWOOD HAS A TOTAL MILLAGE OF ONE POINT. YOU HAVE 30S. LOOK AT THE OTHERS. 3.25, THREE, SEVEN, TEN AND 15. THOSE ARE THE TAXES IN THIS AREA.

THERE ARE A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER RESOURCES YOU CAN GET THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT. THE MAYOR, THE CITY ATTORNEY OF LEE ANN BURDETTE, WHO'S THE VICE PRESIDENT, SENIOR, ONE OF THE SENIOR VICE PRESIDENTS AT STEPHENS AND ALSO A CPA. THEY CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS, ABOUT THE LIBRARY GOING OFF. I WANT TO THANK KELLY, AND I WANT TO THANK MEREDITH FOR SAYING YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. SIR, LET ME FINISH THIS SENTENCE. WE WANT SOMETHING UP THERE. IT SAYS THAT LIBRARY TAX ISN'T STAYING AROUND AND WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT. AND THE OTHER ONE, TOM, YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED, YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED, AND WE LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU. SEE THAT? MR. BURNETT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME AND CONFIRM WITH THEM? TO. I WOULD JUST SAY THAT THIS INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE ON THE PULASKI COUNTY WEBSITE. IF YOU WANT TO SEE COMPARISONS WITH OTHER CITIES. THE OTHER THING I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE, YOU KNOW, WE WORK WITH CITIES AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT THAT STRUGGLE WITH THIS AS JUST AS YOU ARE. IF YOU TAKE A HOME, SAY IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT LET'S DO IT THIS WAY, WILL REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY VALUED AT $250,000.

OKAY, YOU TAKE 20% OF THAT TO GET THE ASSESSED VALUE. SO ON $250,000 MARKET VALUE, REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY 20% ASSESSED VALUE IS $50,000. THE COST TO THE TAXPAYER OF 1.3 MIL IS $65 A YEAR. OKAY, ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT IT IF YOU HAVE REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY VALUED AT $100,000, JUST TO MAKE THE MATH EASY, THE ASSESSED VALUE IS 20% OF THAT 1.3 MIL ON $100,000 VALUE, OR $20,000 ASSESSED VALUE IS $26 A YEAR. SO YOU CAN JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, DO THE MATH

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WOULD ANY OF YOU LIKE TO LEAD THE DISCUSSION? I'LL GO AHEAD. EXCUSE ME. I GOT A FROG IN MY THROAT TONIGHT, BUT I GUESS SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL THE LONGEST I'VE SEEN, IT'S OUR HIGHS AND OUR LOWS AS FAR AS INCOME GOES. AND I'VE NOTICED THAT OUR SALES TAX HAS BEEN RUNNING FLAT AMP OR AMP. INCOME HAS BEEN RUNNING FLAT AS WELL. JUST THE TIME OF LIFE WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT WE CANNOT DEPEND ON TAXES, OUR SALES TAX REVENUE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DEPENDENT ON IN SHERWOOD IS OUR SALES TAX REVENUE. WE CANNOT DEPEND ON THAT. AND THAT'S WHAT PAYS OUR CITY EMPLOYEES SALARIES. THAT'S WHAT PAYS FOR YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. WHAT THAT'S WHAT PAYS FOR OUR ANIMAL SERVICES. THAT'S WHAT PAYS FOR OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. THAT'S WHO PICKS UP YOUR GARBAGE EVERY DAY. OUR CITY SERVICES WOULD NOT EXIST WITHOUT OUR SALES TAX MONEY. AND IF WE DON'T HAVE SALES TAX COMING IN, THEN THOSE CITY SERVICES COULD BE CURTAILED BECAUSE OF THAT. IF WE HAVE TO CURTAIL THAT, IF OUR SALES TAX CONTINUE TO DWINDLE, WE CAN'T WAIT ON THE NEXT BIG BIGGEST BOX STORE TO MOVE IN OR GROCERY STORE. BIG RESTAURANT. WE CAN'T WAIT ON THAT. SO. WE'VE WE DO NEED TO DIVERSIFY OUR INCOME STREAM. SO THAT WAS A THOUGHT BEHIND THIS. WITH THE LIST OF SPONSORS, I'LL PROBABLY BE THE MINORITY HERE, BUT I'M I'M GOING TO SPEAK AGAINST IT. I UNDERSTAND THE PARTS ABOUT ALL OF IT. I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THEIR DIVERSIFICATION. ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. I UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW, ABOUT RELYING JUST ON THE SALES TAX. IT MAY BE FLAT. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. BUT YOU KNOW, WHY IS IT FLAT? IT'S MAYBE FLAT, OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE NOT AS, AS AS AS MUCH EXPENDABLE INCOME AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY HATES I THINK IT'S UNIVERSAL POLITICIANS AND POLITICS. THE CITIZENS VOTED FOR THIS IN 2014 WITH AN END DATE ON IT. AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT EXTENDING OR NOT, THE PROPOSAL IS NOT TO EXTEND THE LIBRARY TAX. I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF A PLAY ON WORDS, BUT WE'RE JUST GOING TO ENACT SOMETHING ELSE AND CALL IT SOMETHING DIFFERENT. I JUST DON'T THINK NOW IS THE RIGHT TIME TO DIVERSIFY. WE'RE WE MAY BE FLAT, BUT WE'RE NOWHERE NEAR IN TROUBLE. AND I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE RIGHT NOW, I DON'T I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S THE PROPER TIME TO LOOK INTO THAT. MAYOR, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. AS A NEW CITY COUNCIL PERSON, I'VE GOT A LOT TO LEARN. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC WHY? WHY IS SHERWOOD ZERO? WHERE OTHER CITIES CHARGE A PERCENTAGE? WE HAVE JUST SO CITIES ARE ALLOWED BY STATE LAW THAT THEY CAN ENACT FIVE MILLS BY THE ACT OF CITY COUNCIL. AND SO IT'S CLEARLY, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY THEY THEY DO UTILIZE THAT TOOL FOR AS COUNCIL MEMBER BROOKS MENTIONED, BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU DIVERSIFY YOUR INCOME STREAMS. IT ALLOWS YOU TO. RAISE UP THAT BASEMENT OF HOW FAR YOU COULD POTENTIALLY FALL. I HEARD IT DESCRIBED ONE TIME BY COUNCIL MEMBER, SO THAT IS TYPICALLY WHY THEY DO IT. WHY WE'VE NEVER DONE IT IS JUST BECAUSE YOU'LL GET PEOPLE WHO SPEAK OUT AGAINST IT. AND IT'S SCARY. AND SO COUNCIL MEMBER BROOKS, YOU'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL THE LONGEST. DO YOU THINK THAT THAT'S AN ACCURATE DESCRIPTION AS TO KIND OF WHY? WELL, ACTUALLY, BACK IN THE DARK AGES, AS ONE OF OUR FRIENDS, BECKY VASSER, WILL SAY, BACK IN THE DARK AGES, THERE WAS A CITY MILLAGE. AND WHEN WALMART AND BEST BUY WERE BRINGING IN THE BIG DOLLARS, THEY TOOK THE CITY MILLAGE AWAY BECAUSE AND WE ADDED ON, I THINK OF MAYBE A HALF A CENT SALES TAX MAYBE. AND WE WERE WE WERE ROLLING IN THE BUCKS. WE THOUGHT WE WERE BIG TIME, YOU KNOW, AND THEY TOOK THE MILLAGE AWAY AND. BUT THEN YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED? WALMART

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SO THEN WE'VE BEEN WE'VE HAD TO BE REAL. WE WERE BUYING. AND I'LL LOOK BACK AT THE CHIEF RIGHT NOW. WHEN I FIRST GOT ON THE COUNCIL, WE WERE BUYING THREE POLICE CARS A YEAR. THREE.

AND YOU KNOW, WE COULDN'T DO THAT NOW. I MEAN, WE'RE BUYING THREE. AND WE WERE LUCKY IF WE WERE BUYING THREE A YEAR WE WERE STRUGGLING. IF I MEAN, THEY WERE BEGGING US TO BUY THREE A YEAR.

AND WOW. AND LAST TIME THIS WAS BROUGHT UP LAST YEAR WHEN A ONE MILL WAS PROPOSED, IT WAS KIND OF THE GENERAL CONSENSUS OF, WELL, IF WE WAIT AND THEN THERE'S NO OVERLAP, WE COULD DO THE, THE 1.3 AT THAT TIME WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS SAID. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS, THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, I HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH. MONICA, JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE SOME OF THE CONSTITUENTS SAYS YOU'RE TAXING US AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AND GOING BACK AND FORTH. BUT BUT THE THING IS, IS THAT WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS LAST YEAR, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ONE OF OUR BIGGEST EXPENSES IN THE CITY IS, IS HR, OBVIOUSLY. AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT EVERY TIME YOU HAVE TO REPLACE AN EMPLOYEE, IT COSTS LIKE 1.25% OF WHAT THAT SALARY IS BECAUSE OF THE TRAINING, THE EDUCATION, THE KNOWLEDGE YOU'VE LOST. I KNOW THAT THE CHIEF AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HE COULD HIRE MORE POLICE OFFICERS AND RETAIN THEM IF WE BROUGHT SALARIES UP. WHEN THIS CAME UP A YEAR AGO, I WAS AGAINST IT ONLY BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE THE TAX WITH THE LIBRARY TAX. AND WHEN THIS FALLS OFF, WHEN THE LIBRARY TAX FALLS OFF, I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN ENTERTAINING THAT CONVERSATION AGAIN. THAT'S WHY I SAID, YOU KNOW, YES, IT'S TIME FOR ME TO ENTERTAIN THAT CONVERSATION AGAIN, BECAUSE THIS FALLS OFF THE MONTH OF JULY. BUT I DO KNOW THAT AS OUR CITY HAS GROWN, I MEAN, WE'RE BIGGER, WE'RE AS BIG AS WE'RE BIGGER THAN JACKSONVILLE, WE'RE BIGGER THAN MAUMELLE. AND THEY'RE POSING SEVEN MILLS IN JACKSONVILLE AND AT THE MUNICIPAL LEAGUE MEETING, TALKING TO SOME OF THE OTHER CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE WHO VOTED ON HAVING THOSE THINGS HAPPEN. IT'S ONE OF THE TOUGHEST DECISIONS THEY MADE BECAUSE, LIKE THE GENTLEMAN SAID, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE FOR THE TAX. WELL, WE DO TOO. BUT SOMETIMES IT'S LIKE WE SEE SOME THINGS THAT MAY NEED TO BE FINANCED OR SOME THINGS THAT MAY NEED TO DO PERSONNEL. YOU DON'T GO FOR A MEAL FOR PERSONNEL, BUT YOU CAN DO IT FOR THE GENERAL BUDGET, WHICH DOES EVERYTHING. IT'S TOUGH FOR ME TO SAY YES, BUT I KNOW WHAT'S RIGHT. IT MAY BE TO SAY YES. THAT MAKES SENSE. IT'S NOT LIKELY THAT I WOULD SAY YES. OKAY. I WANT TO ECHO WHAT YOU SAID, COUNCIL MEMBER BROOKS. IT'S A TOUGH THING FOR ME. I'M WILLIAM WILLIAMS, I APOLOGIZE. I WILL SAY BROOKS, BROOKS AND WILLIAMS BOTH SAID THE SAME THING. I WANT TO ECHO WHAT BOTH OF Y'ALL SAID. IT IS A TOUGH THING BECAUSE YOU DON'T EVER WANT TO BE POINTED AT AND LOOKED AT AS THE COUNCILMAN THAT RAISED TAXES. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE CARE OF THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY. AND, AND, AND IF DIVERSIFYING IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO, THEN WE NEED TO DO IT. AND I TOO, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT LAST YEAR, I DIDN'T WANT TO IMPOSE ANYTHING NEW ON OUR RESIDENTS, AND I SAID I WOULD ENTERTAIN IT ONCE THE TAX WAS GETTING READY TO FALL OFF SO THAT WE COULD CONTINUE TO DO SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN DOING IN OUR CITY. AND IF YOU LOOK AROUND, WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT. AND AS WE, THE CHIEF HAS TALKED ABOUT, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP OUR POLICE FORCE AND OUR FIRE, FIRE FIREMEN AND KEEP ALL THAT STUFF AT THE TOP NOTCH SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO ATTRACT PEOPLE TO OUR CITY. AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S GOING TO ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO THAT FOR ME, THAT'S WHY I COULD GET ON BOARD WITH THIS. AND I'LL ECHO ECHO YOU AS WELL. I ACTUALLY PULLED DOWN AND I'LL BE FULLY TRANSPARENT, PROBABLY MORE THAN I PROBABLY SHOULD. BUT BECAUSE I HATE PROPERTY TAXES, PERIOD.

WHAT I ALSO DON'T LIKE ABOUT OUR PROPERTY TAXES IS THAT IN MY HOUSE, WE PAY ALMOST $2,800 EVERY SINGLE YEAR. NOT A DIME OF THAT COMES TO THE CITY OUTSIDE OF A PORTION OF THE $1,959 THAT GOES TO OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT. I WON'T GET INTO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT CONVERSATION AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE I THINK ANYBODY WHO KNOWS ME WELL KNOWS WHERE I STAND ON THAT. BUT WHEN I LOOK AT WHAT. OUT OF THAT THAT WE HAVE BEEN PAYING FOR, THIS LIBRARY TAX IS 62 IS IN MY HOUSEHOLD, IS $62.58. IF AGAIN, IT'S TOUGH FOR ME TO BE THE ONE TO SAY YES, I WANT TO RAISE

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SO. OKAY, JUST ONE MORE GREEN QUESTION. SO IS THIS ARE WE RAISING A TAX OR ARE WE CONTINUING A TAX? WE'RE CONTINUING ATTACKS. YES, MA'AM. NO. SO I MEAN IT'S THE SAME AMOUNT. IT'S THE NET CHANGE IS NO CHANGE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF SHERWOOD. THIS IS A TAX THAT WE ARE ALREADY PAYING DOING TO THE LIBRARY MILLAGE. AND SO NOW IT GOES THE SAME AMOUNT THAT WOULD STOP. AND NOW THAT SAME AMOUNT WOULD NOW GO TO THE CITY AS THAT GREEN LINE YOU SEE AT 1.3 ON THE RIGHT FOR LIBRARY FOR SHERWOOD, TAKE IT ALL THE WAY TO ZERO IS BECAUSE YOU DON'T JUST SWITCH THOSE TWO THINGS. SO IF YOU LOOK ON WHAT I GAVE YOU, THAT'S WHERE IT MOVES TO. WELL, I THINK IT'S GOOD TO CLARIFY BECAUSE I THINK WE KEEP SAYING LIKE RAISING TAXES. SO IT'S PRETTY MUCH A TAX THAT'S GETTING READY TO EXPIRE. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THOSE FUNDS AND USE THEM FOR SOMETHING ELSE, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. 1.3 RIGHT THERE. IT'S GOING TO GO TO. SO THAT'S WHY THAT LANGUAGE WAS GOOD. THAT'S WHY THAT WE ADDED THE LANGUAGE IN THERE TO SHOW TO EVERYONE THAT THE LIBRARY TAX WOULD NOT BE ASSESSED ANY LONGER. JUST TO CLARIFY THAT. JUST WHENEVER IN THERE, WHEN IN THE BODY OF THE ORDINANCE THE WHEREAS THE WHEREAS IT CLARIFIES IT CLARIFIES THAT THE LIBRARY TAX. GOTCHA. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. YES. SO IT'S IN THE BODY OF THE ORDINANCE. I DO HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION. I KNOW WHEN THIS WAS BROUGHT UP LAST YEAR, WE WERE, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MADE A WONDERFUL PRESENTATION. OUR CHIEF IS ALWAYS SOMEWHERE.

OVER SPECIFIC ITEMS, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY WERE NEEDING. HAVE THOSE NEEDS BEEN MET FULLY, COME THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS? I WOULD SAY IN OCTOBER. WE I WILL SAY DUE TO THE COUNCIL GETTING PAY RAISE, IT WAS SAID THAT WE DON'T TRIM THE BUDGET. WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY BEEN DOING THINGS TO TRIM THE BUDGET. I THINK WE CUT PARKS AND REC A HALF $1 MILLION FROM WHAT IT PREVIOUSLY WAS. SO WE ARE DOING THINGS LEFT AND RIGHT, TRYING TO BE AS EFFICIENT AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. WE'VE TAKEN GREAT STEPS AND GREAT STRIDES WHEN IT COMES TO ALL THAT. BUT WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, CERTAINLY THAT PAY RAISE WENT A LONG WAY FOR OUR RECRUITMENT. SO NOW WE ARE NOT COMPLETELY FULL.

BUT. AS I STATED IN THAT EMAIL, WE HAVE THE LARGEST CLASS GETTING READY TO ENTER THE ACADEMY. THAT CERTAINLY UNDER THE CURRENT CHIEF TENURE. BUT HE SAID FOR AS LONG AS HE COULD REMEMBER. SO BUT ONCE AGAIN, THAT WAS BECAUSE OF THE ACTIONS OF THE COUNCIL. IN TERMS OF DOING THAT, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN TERMS OF SOME OTHER THINGS IN THE FUTURE? YOU YOU JUST KIND OF YOU DON'T KNOW. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S ALL PART OF IT. WE ARE DOING THINGS TO IMPROVE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE WITH, YOU KNOW, OUR BUILDINGS WITH ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS EACH AND EVERY DAY. BUT OUR BUILDINGS ARE GETTING OLDER, THEY GET MORE EXPENSIVE. THEY, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY HAVE HEATING AND AIR UNITS. WE HAD, WHAT, TWO GO OUT THIS MONTH THAT HAD TO BE COMPLETELY REPLACED, EVEN THOUGH WE MAINTAIN THEM EVERY YEAR. I MEAN, THERE'S JUST THINGS THAT COME UP THAT WE JUST HANDLE WITHIN THE BUDGET. SO I CAN'T REALLY TELL YOU IN CHIEF, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO, BUT NO, BUT BUT I THINK WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THAT IF WE APPROVE THIS, THAT THIS MONEY IS NOT JUST GOING TO BE HOARDED, LIKE WE'RE NOT JUST DOING THIS JUST TO DO THIS, THAT THERE ARE OTHER NEEDS IN THE CITY THAT WE

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DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OTHER. MOVE TO SPEND THE RULES IN PLACE AND ON SECOND READING.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND PUT IT ON SECOND READING BY COUNCIL MEMBER BROOKS AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCCULLOUGH. ROLL CALL, PLEASE. WADE. NO. MCCULLOUGH I TREAT I TOWNSEND, I BRODERICK NO. WILLIAMS I THOMAS. BROOKS I. SIX EYES. YES, YES. AN ORDINANCE ENDING THE EXISTING 1.3 MILLS LIBRARY TAX ASSESSING A NEW 1.3 MILLS TAX ON REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY AS A NEW MILLAGE CERTIFYING TO THE PULASKI COUNTY CLERK THE NEW MILLAGE TO BE LEVIED BY THE CITY OF SHERWOOD ON THE TAXABLE, REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY FOR THE TAX YEAR 2025 AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES, AS AMENDED. SECOND READING. MAY WE SUSPEND THE RULES AND PLACE IT ON THIRD READING? SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BROOKS AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. ROLL CALL, PLEASE. WADE. NO. MCCULLOUGH. I TREAT I TOWNSEND, I BRODERICK. NO. WILLIAMS I THOMAS BROOKS I. 6 P.M. AN ORDINANCE ENDING THE EXISTING 1.3 MILLS LIBRARY TAX ASSESSING A NEW 1.3 MILLS TAX ON REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY AS A NEW MILLAGE CERTIFYING TO THE COUNTY CLERK THE NEW MILLAGE TO BE LEVIED BY THE CITY OF SHERWOOD ON THE TAXABLE, REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY FOR THE TAX YEAR 2025 AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. THIRD READING, AS AMENDED. MOVE FOR ADOPTION. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BROOKS AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER TREAT FOR ADOPTION. ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

WADE. NO. MCCULLOUGH I TREAT I TOWNSEND I BRODERICK NO. WILLIAMS I THOMAS. BROOKS I THE

[11. A resolution appointing Sydney Dozier to serve the remaining term, replacing Molly Jones, to the City of Sherwood Planning Commission (Mayor Heye-Townsell)]

MOVE FOR ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION. SECOND MOTION FOR ADOPTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BROOKS AND SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. ROLL CALL, PLEASE. WADE A MCCULLOUGH. I TREAT I TOWNSEND I BRODERICK I WILLIAMS I THOMAS BROOKS I THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM

[12. A resolution expressing the willingness of City of Sherwood Arkansas to apply for outdoor recreation grants program funds (Mayor Heye-Townsell)]

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BASICALLY IT WOULD ALLOW FOR. MISS BROOKS AND MISS WILLIAMS SIDE TO BE ABLE TO SAFELY GET.

YES. AND, AND THEIR WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND BEYOND, TO BE ABLE TO SAFELY BE ABLE TO WALK AND UTILIZE THE TRAIL. TOTAL COST IS 370,000. THE GRANT IS 250,000. SHERWOOD'S PART WOULD BE 120,000. THAT WOULD BE 30. SHERWOOD WOULD PAY 32% OF THE TOTAL. I MEAN, I'LL JUST ECHO AGAIN, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THIS, BUT WE'RE TICKING THESE OFF ONE AT A TIME. SO WE JUST COMMITTED 415,000. SO THIS WOULD BE ANOTHER 100, YOU KNOW. SO WE'RE AT HALF A MILLION FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. AND WE HAVE TWO MORE AGENDA ITEMS. SO WE HAVEN'T I GUESS THAT'S WHY I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT IT AS A WHOLE JUST TO SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. EVERYTHING. BECAUSE WE DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU'RE SAYING LIKE 12, 13 AND 14, SO. WELL, WELL JUST SO THAT. YEAH. SO THIS THIS ALSO HELPS TO CONNECT. THIS IS PART OF THE GREATER YOU KNOW, REGIONAL TRAIL. IT'S SO IT'S NOT ONLY CONNECTING THAT SOUTH SIDE OVER TO THE HENSON TRAIL, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY BECOMES PART OF THE EXTENDED TRAIL WHICH THEN WILL CONNECT SOMEDAY OVER TO HOLLYWOOD AND LANTRIP OVER THERE. WHEN DO THESE HAVE TO BE SUBMITTED? MAYOR DANIEL, THIS IS DANIEL WORKS WITH FINLEY, AND FINLEY IS ON VACATION. AND SO THE REASON WHY YOU ALL ARE GETTING THESE TODAY IS BECAUSE OF THE DEADLINES THAT ARE APPROACHING RIGHT AT THE END OF THE MONTH. SO EXCUSE ME AT THE END OF THE MONTH. YES, I BELIEVE THE 30TH WAS THE 27TH FOR TWO OF THEM AND THEN THE 30TH FOR ANOTHER. ALL RIGHT. CAN WE HAVE THE TOTAL THEN OF ALL THREE? THAT MIGHT WORK BETTER. YES, MA'AM. SO THE NEXT ONE, THE 20%, IS 101,600. AND THE LAST ONE IS WE ALREADY BASICALLY HAVE THIS IN PLACE. BUT WHAT IT'S DOING IS. THE ANY OF THE OVERAGES FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR. IT SAVES US THAT. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT 38 40,000 RIGHT AT AT WORST CASE CORRECT. YES. AT WORST CASE. SO FOR ALL THREE IT'S 260,000. YES, MA'AM. YEAH. PLUS NOT NOT TOO CRAZY. YES. AND THEN THE PARKS ONE IS FOR NEXT YEAR. YES. BUT THESE WOULD ALL BE OUT OF NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. CORRECT. SO I'M SORRY. SO FOR 15 I DON'T KNOW THAT WHEN WOULD THESE 120 PLUS 102 PLUS 40 OH I SAID 3838 242 282. RIGHT. AND THERE'S ALSO LIKE THE 38 THAT WOULD BE NEXT YEAR AND THAT WOULD BE BUDGETED OUT OF THE STREET FUND, NOT OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. SO THAT'S ALMOST THREE QUARTERS OF A MILLION. AND LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO ANY OF THEM. I'M JUST SAYING LET'S LOOK AT IT AS A WHOLE, I HEAR YOU, BECAUSE THERE MAY BE OTHER THINGS THAT COME UP. OKAY. LET'S. OKAY. HOW MUCH DO YOU HAVE? THREE. WELL, A THOUGHT I HAVE IS THESE ARE THREE DIFFERENT GRANTS THAT WE'RE APPLYING FOR, CORRECT. FOR THREE DIFFERENT SEGMENTS OF THE CENTRAL ARKANSAS REGIONAL GREENWAY, WHICH IS OKAY, PRETTY HIGH PRIORITY ON METRO PLANS. SO WHAT ARE THE ODDS THAT WE GET APPROVED FOR THAT? WE GET THE GRANT FOR ONE, MUCH LESS ALL THREE, RIGHT? THEY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT CHANCES OF GETTING AWARDED. SO THE ONE THAT WE KNOW THE LEAST AMOUNT BECAUSE THIS IS ALL BRAND NEW IS THE ONE WE'RE ADDRESSING RIGHT NOW. THE MOST EXPENSIVE ONE, THE ONE THAT'S

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STATE. YES, MA'AM. GREAT STRIDES ANYWHERE. OH THERE IT IS. AND THERE IT IS. RIGHT THERE. 1212.

I WOULD SAY IF YOU WANT TO CUT ONE OF THE GRANTS, THEN I WOULD SAY YOU WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO CUT THE NEXT ONE, WHICH IS FOR ENGINEERING FOR THE LAND TRIP WIND CHIME UTILIZING HOLLYWOOD AVENUE AT SOME POINT THAT'S A CONNECTION. BUT IF. THAT'S NUMBER 13. YEAH, BUT WE'LL WE WILL NOTE THAT THAT WAS VERY MUCH ON THE HIGH END OF THE COST. WE DIDN'T WANT TO GO LOW WITH IT. OKAY. IT IS POSSIBLE THAT COST COULD BE LOWER. CAN WE TALK ABOUT THAT THOUGH. SO THAT'S I THINK THAT'S CONFUSING FOR THE COUNCIL TO THIS IS JUST THE ENGINEERING CORRECT. OH YEAH. THIS HAS NOTHING. SO WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THE MONEY AND THEN WE NEED TO BE WILLING AND READY TO SPEND THE CONSTRUCTION MONEY. LIKE THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M WONDERING, ALL OF US TO GET

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WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO I KNOW BUT I JUST JUMPED TO 13. WELL WE CAN'T DO THAT BEVERLY. WHEN IT COMES AFTER 12. WHEN WE GET TO THAT, WE CAN WE CAN DO IT. THAT'S HENDRICKS MATH FOR YOU.

HEY, DO WE DO WE KNOW APPROXIMATELY THE CONSTRUCTION COST? IS THAT. YEAH, THE CONSTRUCTION COST, FOR WHICH GRANT THE WIND TRIP TO LAND TRIP TO WINTHROP. WE NEED TO. THAT'S PART OF DOING THAT ENGINEERING ONCE YOU GET I MEAN, ROUGHLY LIKE, I MEAN, IS THIS A $10 MILLION PROJECT? NO MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT. IT COULD BE ROUGHLY A $5 MILLION PROJECT.

MAYBE YOU JUST WE DON'T KNOW. IT'S UNTIL WE ACTUALLY GET. THAT'S RIGHT. SO WE WOULD SPEND $200,000 IF WE WIN. AND THEN WE NEED TO HAVE READY TO SPEND 5 MILLION OR. NO NO NO NO NO. SO WHEN YOU APPLY FOR AND YOU GET A GRANT FOR THE ENGINEERING, THEN YOU HAVE A MUCH HIGHER CHANCE OF THEN GETTING THE GRANT FOR CONSTRUCTIONS, WHICH MEANS YOU GET IT AT $0.20 ON THE DOLLAR.

SO NO IT'S NOT. OH OKAY. NOW WE GOT TO BE PREPARED TO SPEND 5 MILLION. BEST CASE SCENARIO, WE NEED TO BE PREPARED TO SPEND 1 MILLION IF WE IF WE WERE TO GET, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A $5 MILLION CONSTRUCTION, WE GET 80%. I'M JUST SAYING THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT COMMITMENTS. THESE ARE NOT TOTALLY AGREE. TOTALLY AGREE. YEAH. WE'RE BACK ON THE BRIDGE. THE GREAT STRIDES GRANT WE NEEDED. YOU ALL KNOW THE COST OF ALL OF THEM. BUT WE NEED TO STAY. ON EACH ITEM AND ADDRESS THEM AS THEY COME. SO WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL TAKING DANIELS RECOMMENDATION? SINCE THIS ONE IS A SAFETY ISSUE BECAUSE OF HAVING THE BRIDGE ACROSS THE ROAD, AND IT IS ONE THAT WE WALK. WELL, NO, BUT FORGET US. I MEAN, IT'S ABOUT THE RESIDENTS OF SHERWOOD TO KEEP THEM SAFE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT EVERY DAY YOU CROSS THAT AND WE'RE ON NUMBER 12. I'M ON 12 I KNOW. RIGHT. WHICH IS GREAT, GREAT STRIDES. THAT'S THE ONE THAT DOES THE PICKTHORN PARK GOES ACROSS THE PUBLIC TRAIL. WE KNOW THE COST ESTIMATE FROM YOU GUYS IS 120 K YOUR SHARE. YES. OUR SHARE. CORRECT. OUR SHARE. YES. NO, NO. THIS WAS THE WHOLE THING. THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO TAKE THEM ITEM BY ITEM. COUNCIL MEMBER WADE. SO WE ARE IF EVERYBODY WILL FOLLOW, WE ARE ON. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS I'LL MAKE A MOTION. WE ADOPT THE RESOLUTION. ITEM NUMBER 12. GOING TO BE ANSWER THIS QUESTION THOUGH BECAUSE THIS ONE WE'RE REQUESTING 370,000. THE GRANTS FOR 250,000 IF WE GET IT, 370,000. FOR THE TOTAL COST, 250,000 IS THE MAX GRANT AMOUNT. THAT'S WHAT YOU REQUEST. 120,000 IS THE REMAINDER TO BE PAID. ALL WE'RE DOING IS GETTING PERMISSION TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT. IF WE DON'T GET THE GRANT, WE DON'T SPEND A PENNY. CORRECT. JUST DID IT. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY. DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ONE? WE HAVE ON 13 AND 14. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BROOKS AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS. ROLL CALL PLEASE. WADE. NO. MCCULLOUGH. I TREAT I TOWNSEND. I. BRODERICK NO. WILLIAMS I THOMAS. BROOKS I THE MOTION PASSES SIX. YES TWO NO I

[13. A resolution expressing the willingness of City of Sherwood Arkansas to utilize Federal-Aid Transportation Alternatives Program or Recreational Trails Program funds (Mayor Heye­ Townsell)]

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[14. A resolution expressing the willingness of City of Sherwood Arkansas to utilize Federal-Aid Transportation Alternatives Program or Recreational Trails Program funds (Mayor Heye­ Townsell)]

WE'VE GOTTEN GRANTS TO BUILD IT. STEP THREE OF THIS ONE. YES. OR FOR THE FIRST TWO WE'VE ALREADY.

SO THIS IS THE FINAL STEP. 8000 IS OUR COST. IT'S JUST AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GET MORE MONEY FOR THIS PROJECT TO COVER 80% OF ANY OF THE OVERAGE THAT WE MAY HAVE INCURRED. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. ESTIMATED COST 38,000 IS WHAT I WAS TOLD TODAY. WE 38 TO 40,000. WORST CASE SCENARIO, WE HAVE THREE INDIVIDUALS WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM 14. MISS CARNEY, DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS? YES. OKAY. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS JULIAN CARNEY AND I'M A LONGTIME RESIDENT IN CITY OF SHERWOOD. I LIVE IN INDIAN HEAD LAKE ESTATES. THE REASON I'M SPEAKING TONIGHT IS NOT NECESSARILY SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS POWER LINE EASEMENT TRAIL SPECIFICALLY, BUT TO SPEAK OF THE WHOLE PROJECT WHEN THE INDIAN HEAD LAKE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION ALLOWED THE CITY TO COME OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE LEVY, AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY AT OUR RECENT BOARD MEETING LAST EARLIER THIS MONTH. MISS CARNEY, I NEED YOU TO STAY ON TOPIC ON THIS SPECIFIC. WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING THAT. OKAY. WELL, I HAVE A I HAVE A SERIOUS ISSUE WITH USING FEDERAL FUNDS FOR SOME OF THESE PROJECTS WHEN WE HAVE SERIOUS DRAINAGE ISSUES. SPECIFICALLY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAVE A SEWER RETENTION POND THAT FLOODS BY 50 TO 75FT EVERY TIME WE GET ANY KIND OF HEAVY RAIN. WHILE I APPRECIATE THE AMBITION OF TRYING TO IMPROVE A GREAT DEAL OF TRAILS AND OFFERING MORE RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, I THINK THAT UTILIZING FEDERAL FUNDS FOR THIS TYPE OF ENDEAVOR IS A WASTE, ESPECIALLY ANY TYPE OF PROJECT THAT IS GOING TO IMPACT MY NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIFICALLY. WHILE IT MAY NOT BE SPECIFIC ON THIS AGENDA, I THINK THAT I SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO STATE THAT ALTHOUGH YOU'VE PAID FOR THE ENGINEERING, AND I'M DELIGHTED TO HEAR THAT THE LEVY IS NOT GOING TO BE UTILIZED WHEN YOU STILL ARE PLANNING ON AND STILL HAVE PLANS FOR THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO NEGATIVELY IMPACT PEOPLE'S PEACEFUL ENJOYMENT OF THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY. FOR A PROJECT THAT CONSISTS OF $7 MILLION IN AN ECOLOGICALLY SENSITIVE AREA, YOU'LL NEVER GET MY SUPPORT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. NEXT SPEAKER. IS THAT TC COMMENT? AND ONCE AGAIN, I NEED TO REITERATE IT NEEDS TO BE ON TOPIC. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH INDIAN HEAD AND THE PROJECT THERE. THIS PROJECT GOES FROM BERING CROSS TO BROCKINGTON ROAD AND IF YOU DON'T STRAIGHTEN OUT ALREADY, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, SIR. HI, I'M JC COLLETT, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, IT'S GOOD TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY. SPEND MONEY IS KIND OF FUN. IF I ASKED YOU FOLKS JUST TO SAY, HEY, GIVE ME $10,000 RIGHT NOW, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. JUST GIVE IT TO ME. HOW MANY OF YOU PASS IT FORWARD TO ME? SEE IT TO ME? WE'RE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF MONEY TODAY, BUT THERE'S NOT SPECIFICS ENOUGH. NOT WHAT I'VE EXPERIENCED. WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU DOING? WHAT? WHAT ALL IS

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THAT'S NOTHING. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU FAIL TO SEE, IT'S NOT JUST $65, THAT'S $65 HERE. THIS OVER HERE WENT UP. THAT'S ANOTHER $55. THIS OVER HERE WENT UP. THAT'S ANOTHER $100. INSURANCE WENT UP. THAT'S ANOTHER $400. SO THAT'S $60 IS NOT MAYBE A BIG DEAL. BUT WHEN YOU COMBINE IT TO THE SAME THING THAT WE'VE JUST DONE IN THIS ROOM, PULLING THINGS TOGETHER, IT'S A PRETTY GOOD AMOUNT. SO I JUST I JUST SUGGEST THAT YOU SIT AND LOOK AT THIS VERY CAREFULLY ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE GETTING READY TO DO. AND SOME OF YOU EXCUSE ME, SOME OF YOU THAT KNOW ME WILL GO. I CAN'T BELIEVE HE'S GOING TO. HE SAID THAT AND KNOWS THAT YOU DO KNOW ME WILL GO.

THAT'S TYPICAL JC COMMENT. AND IT'S THIS. AFTER LISTENING TO EVERYTHING I'VE LISTENED TO AND ME AND YOU MIGHT DON'T LAUGH OUT LOUD OR DON'T GO, YEAH, BECAUSE YOU MIGHT BE SLEEPING ON THE COUCH LIKE I AM TONIGHT. BUT WHEN YOU SIT THERE AND GO AND TALK ABOUT ALL THE STUFF YOU'RE DOING, IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE WHEN MY WIFE GOES, HEY, I SAVED YOU $500 SHOPPING TODAY. WELL, HOW MUCH DID IT SPEND TO SAVE $500? WELL, WE SPENT $600, BUT I SAVED YOU $500. AND THAT'S THE. THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AS I LISTEN TODAY. SO YOU GOT A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY ON YOUR HANDS.

OH, I JUST BROKE THE COMPUTER. GOT A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY ON YOUR HANDS. THINK ABOUT IT VERY CAREFULLY. THANK YOU. IN ORDER TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF MONEY. JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW, WE'RE ALREADY COMMITTED TO BUILDING THE TRAIL. WE CAN SPEND 190,000. OR WE COULD SPEND A MAX OF 40,000, 38 TO 40,000. SO THAT'S ALL THAT THIS GRANT IS DOING. THE LAST PERSON IS GWEN STIERS.

I'D LIKE TO CHANGE MINE TO 16, PLEASE, SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY TO COUNCIL, I COULD APPRECIATE COACH COMMENTS COMMENT THAT I DO HOPE AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE CAN HAVE A LITTLE MORE ADVANCED NOTICE AND SLOW DOWN BECAUSE IT IS BETTER TO SEE IN PERSON TO SEE THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO COME UP AND VOTE ON. AND THERE ARE A LOT OF A LOT OF THINGS AND GOOD THINGS HAPPENING IN SHERWOOD. BUT AS COUNCIL MEMBER, I WOULD LIKE TO GO AND LOOK IN PERSON AND WE CAN HAVE A MORE INFORMED DISCUSSION. I THINK IF WE CAN WORK A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND GO LOOK IN PERSON. SO I DID APPRECIATE THAT. YES. THAT'S FAIR, THAT'S FAIR PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL. THIS IS ON THE 14TH. THIS IS ON ITEM 14 FOR THE 40,000. YES, MA'AM. OR 38 OR WHATEVER IT IS. WE'RE ALREADY COMMITTED TO IT. WE CAN SPEND 190,000, OR WE CAN PASS THIS AND SPEND 40,000. SAVES THE CITY 150,000. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. WE'RE WE'VE ALREADY STARTED THIS PROJECT. THIS IS JUST TO GET US SOME TO APPLY FOR A GRANT. FOR OVERAGES? YES, SIR. I MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR ADOPTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCCULLOUGH. ROLL CALL, PLEASE. WADE I MCCULLOUGH, I TREAT I TOWNSEND I BRODERICK I WILLIAMS I THOMAS I BROOKS I THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. NEXT

[15. Presentation of proposed bond projects]

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AND THE HIGH SCHOOL AS WELL. THIS IS CENTRALLY LOCATED MAKING IT A LOT MORE CONVENIENT IN TERMS OF SHERWOOD RESIDENTS ALSO. AND THEY WILL TALK ABOUT THIS IN JUST A MINUTE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY FOUND OUT AS WELL IS THIS ALSO ALLOWS FOR FUTURE EXPANSION, LOWER BUILD COSTS AND GIVES US A LARGER SHELTER. THIS BRINGS THE COST DOWN BY A HALF $1 MILLION.

GIVING GIVING US A BETTER PROJECT. BRINGS IT DOWN. YES MA'AM. WE GET A BIGGER SHELTER WITH ROOM TO EXPAND IN THE FUTURE. AT A HALF MILLION DOLLARS LESS. SO AS IT EXISTS TODAY. 24 REGULAR DOG INDOOR KENNELS WITH THIS WOULD HAVE 40 INDOOR OUTDOOR KENNELS. WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT? BECAUSE IT HELPS TO MAKE THE DOGS MORE ADOPTABLE BY HELPING WITH THEIR ENVIRONMENT. DOGS GET BASICALLY THE KENNEL CRAZY. I MEAN WHEN THEY ARE TRAPPED WITHIN A VERY LOUD CONFINED SPACE. THIS ALLOWS THEM TO BE ABLE TO GO IN AND OUTDOOR. THIS IS THE LATEST TECHNOLOGY AND THIS IS WHY IT'S IMPORTANT. ALSO, THIS GIVES US FOR QUARANTINE KETTLES AND FOR OBSERVATION KENNELS. THIS ALSO GIVES US FIVE CAT ROOMS, FIVE OUTDOOR CATS WITH A DEDICATED QUARANTINE ROOM. RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOT ONE. AND IN FACT, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW YOU CAN CALL WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW A QUARANTINE ROOM WHEN IF IT IS AN AIRBORNE VIRUS, THEN IT GOES THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SHELTER, INCLUDING THE SURGICAL AREA AND THE QUARANTINE AREA. THIS GIVES US A DEDICATED SURGERY ROOM AND A DEDICATED EXAM ROOM, A FULLY EQUIPPED GROOMING ROOM, A DEDICATED ADOPTION ROOMS FOR DOGS AND CATS. TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE, 10,940FT■S. AND YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE SEPARATES OUT. RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT THE CATS AND DOGS. YOU KNOW, BASICALLY RIGHT THERE TOGETHER. NEEDLESS TO SAY, IT'S EXTRA STRESSFUL FOR THE CATS. SO THIS PUTS THEM ON OPPOSITE SIDES OF THE SHELTER. AND NOW I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO KIND OF TELL YOU GUYS SOME OF THE DETAILING ON IT AND WHY IT'S THERE AND WHY IT'S IMPORTANT. SURE. WELL HELLO EVERYONE. MY NAME IS CHRIS EAST. I'M WITH CROMWELL ARCHITECTS. PARDON ME, ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS. AND I'VE LED THIS DESIGN PROCESS FOR CROMWELL. SO TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, WHICH YOU CAN SEE HERE IS PRIMARILY THE BUILDING IS IN TWO DIFFERENT SIDES. THERE'S THE PART THAT IS STRAIGHT UP AND DOWN, AND THEN THERE'S THE ANGLED PART. THE REASON THAT IT'S ANGLED IS IT FOLLOWS THE CONTOURS OF THE EXISTING SITE. SO JUST LIKE THE NEIGHBORING LIBRARY, IT HAS BASICALLY THE SAME SHAPE. IN ORDER TO MINIMIZE THOSE SITE CONSTRUCTION COSTS. AND I WILL GO AHEAD AND SAY, PART OF THE REASON WHY WE LOOKED AT THIS SITE IS BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS SITE, THE SITE THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY ON, IS EXTREMELY STEEP AND IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO A CREEK. SO ALL THE INVESTIGATIONS THAT WE DID TO ESSENTIALLY MAKE THAT AN ECONOMICAL PROJECT LED US DOWN THE ROAD TO FIND OUT THAT ACTUALLY, IF WE LOOKED AT A DIFFERENT SITE, IT WOULD BE MUCH CHEAPER. SO BACK TO THE FLOOR PLAN ITSELF. EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE IN THAT LIGHT BLUE, THAT IS THE DOG HOLDING AREA. AS THE MAYOR SAID, THERE ARE 40 KENNELS PLUS 40 OBSERVATION KENNELS,

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SURGERY AND EXAM ROOM. SO ANYTHING THAT COMES IN THROUGH THE BUILDING AND THIS TIME WE'RE ALSO HAVING THEM COME IN THE BACK, SPECIFICALLY THROUGH THE BACK, WHERE JUST THE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS BRING IN THEIR THEIR. THEIR ANIMALS, BUT THEY'RE NOT BRINGING THEM IN THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR LIKE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW. SO THIS IS REALLY SPECIFICALLY TO CONTROL ANY POTENTIAL TROUBLESOME ANIMAL INTAKE. ALSO. THAT WAY THEY DO NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH. IF YOU LOOK WHEN THEY COME IN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING, YOU GO EITHER IF THEY NEED TO BE QUARANTINED, YOU'RE RIGHT THERE. YOU'RE NOT TAKING THEM THROUGH THE WHOLE SHELTER. THEY CAN BE. YOU'VE GOT THE EXAM ROOM RIGHT THERE IF WE NEED TO EXAM, IF THERE'S AN INJURY, IF THERE'S SOMETHING OF WHICH WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, IF IT'S JUST A MATTER OF OBSERVATION, ONCE AGAIN, YOU'VE GOT WITHOUT TAKING THE DOG THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT KENNELS. SO CAN YOU LIKE SHOW UP THERE? IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE DOING THIS AND IT'S NOT SHOWING UP. THEY'RE SHOWING UP. THEY'RE LIKE, YEAH, I CAN JUST USE THE MOUSE. I HATE TO DO IT THAT WAY, BUT I CAN SHOW YOU SEE THE LASER POINTER? OKAY, I DID THIS ONCE BEFORE OKAY. SO HERE'S YOUR LOADING AREA. SO WHAT THEY WOULD DO IS COME AROUND. YOU'VE GOT YOUR EMPLOYEE PARKING RIGHT HERE. YOU'RE ABLE TO COME IN THROUGH THIS DOOR. AND THEN IMMEDIATELY YOU'VE GOT EITHER YOU MIGHT NEED TO TAKE THEM TO THE EXAM ROOM TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY PROBLEMS OR IF IT'S A MATTER OF, OKAY, WE'VE FOUND A PROBLEM.

WE NEED TO QUARANTINE THIS DOG FOR A LITTLE WHILE. THEN ONCE AGAIN, IT CAN DIRECTLY GO IN HERE. OR IF IT'S A MATTER OF, WELL, WE JUST NEED TO OBSERVE THE DOG FOR A WHILE, THEN YOU'VE GOT YOUR INTAKE AND BOOM, THEY COME IN RIGHT THROUGH HERE. RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE ANIMALS THROUGH ALL THE OTHER ANIMALS IN ORDER TO GET THEM PLACES. THIS WAY IT CUTS DOWN ON DISEASES AND ALSO STRESS WITH THE ANIMALS. AND I WILL SAY TO COMMEND BOTH OF THESE GENTLEMEN, THEY SPENT A LOT OF TIME AT THE SHELTER WORKING WITH THE SHELTER STAFF AS WELL AS I BELIEVE YOU WERE INVOLVED WITH OR ONE OF YOU WITH THE BENTONVILLE SHELTER. THEY THEY'VE LOOKED AT THE SHELTER THAT IS GETTING READY TO BE BUILT AND SO FORTH TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO IS GOOD, NOT JUST NOW, BUT IN THE FUTURE. SO THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TOUCHED AGAIN IN OUR LIFETIME. NO, I'LL I'LL EMPHASIZE THAT. THAT'S ONE THING THAT I KNOW CHRIS WAS VERY AND THE MAYOR AND EVERYONE IS INVOLVED IN THIS, THIS WAS LOOKED AT HOLISTICALLY. THIS WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WAS LOOKED AT AS A PIECEMEAL OR LET'S, LET'S TRY TO DO SOMETHING HERE.

THIS WAS THOUGHT OF AS A REALLY FUNCTIONAL FACILITY THAT'S GOING TO HELP YOU WITH RETENTION OF YOUR FOLKS. SO THE EMPLOYEES ARE GOING TO BE MORE LIKELY TO WANT TO WORK HERE AND STAY HERE.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE REDUCTION OF COST FOR CHEMICALS OF CLEANING, REDUCTION OF COSTS FOR TREATING THE KENNEL COUGH. SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT WANT TO MAKE THIS A TRULY IT'S A FIRST CLASS FACILITY. IT'LL BE UP THERE WITH WITH WHAT CABOT'S GOING TO BUILD. IT'S GOING TO BE UP THERE WITH THE BENTON PET RESOURCE CENTER. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT IN TEN YEARS, WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO YOU AND GO, OH, THIS WASN'T DESIGNED RIGHT. OH, THIS IS NOT THOUGHT THROUGH. EVEN THE LOADING AREA HOLDS THAT IF A DOG GETS LOOSE, IT'S ENCOMPASSING. IT'S A FENCED AREA. THAT WAY THEY'RE NOT CHASING A DOG THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS IS REALLY DESIGNED TO EMBRACE THE COMMUNITY AND GET THEM INVOLVED IN THIS, THIS SHELTER, BEING CLOSE TO THE SCHOOL HELPS STUDENTS ENGAGE THEM FROM VOLUNTEER HOURS. THEY'RE GOING TO WALK BY HERE. THEY'RE GOING TO SEE DOGS. THEY MAY BE ABLE TO HELP. IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE THEM OPPORTUNITIES TO EVENTUALLY WALK DOGS, MAYBE GET THEIR INTEREST AND OTHER THINGS THAT THEY CAN GO ON TO THE VET SCHOOL IN CABOT AS WELL. BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT JUST LOOKED AT LIGHTHEARTEDLY. THIS WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE JUST SAID, THIS IS DONE. WE'RE GOING TO PUT OUR SEAL ON IT. WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THIS WAS THE BEST THING THAT COULD BE DONE FOR THE MONEY.

THANK YOU. I ONE OF THE THINGS TOO, THAT REALLY IMPRESSED ME. YOU WANT TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT HOW THE BLUE SECTION IS GOING TO BE HEATED AND WHY. RIGHT. SO WE ACTUALLY ARE PROPOSING USING A HEATED FLOOR THERE. SO IT'S BASICALLY A SERIES OF HYDRAULIC CABLES THAT RUN THROUGH THERE.

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RIGHT? A MORE HEALTHY FOR EVERYONE. AND IT SAVES MONEY TOO. THE REASON IS YOU'VE GOT THESE DOORS THAT GO UP, THEY'RE ABLE TO GO OUTSIDE. SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT HEATING YOUR HOME IN YOUR HOME, WHEN YOU OPEN THAT DOOR, AIRFLOW GOES IN AND OUT. THIS ACTUALLY BRINGS THE FLOOR RADIANT HEAT AND IT KEEPS IT FROM GOING, ESCAPING. EVERY TIME YOU'RE PUSHING AIR WITH A VENTILATION SYSTEM, IT'S GOING OUT YOUR DOOR. SO YOUR COSTS GO UP AND UP AND UP. YOUR SYSTEM'S CONSTANTLY RUNNING. AND SO THIS ACTUALLY LETS THE HEAT COME THROUGH THE FLOOR. IT'S MORE HUMANE FOR THE ANIMAL. IT'S MORE COST EFFECTIVE FOR THE OPERATOR. IT'S A BETTER SYSTEM OVERALL.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH WITH OTHER HEATING ELEMENTS. ONE OF THE PROBLEMS ALSO WITH THE CURRENT SHELTER IS, YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY THEY HAVE TO, ONE BY ONE, TAKE THE ANIMALS OUT, THEN THEY'VE GOT TO CLEAN, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT TO BRING THE ANIMALS BACK IN, AND YOU'VE GOT TO BE CAREFUL AS TO WHICH ANIMALS YOU PUT OUT IN THAT AREA AND SO FORTH. BY HAVING THESE INDOOR OUTDOOR, YOU CAN HAVE THE DOGS GO OUT, YOU CAN CLOSE THE DOOR, YOU CAN CLEAN THE INSIDE OF IT AND THEN OPEN IT BACK UP. AND THEY CAN THEN RESUME GOING IN AND OUT. SO EVERYTHING THAT THEY DID, THEY TRIED TO LOOK AT EFFICIENCY OF REDUCING AND MANAGING THIS FACILITY IN THE FUTURE. AND MOVING ON. I WOULD LIKE YOU TO SEE, JUST SO THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. THEY TOOK THE INSPIRATION FROM THE LIBRARY. WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE DO. THEY ARE WE'RE TRYING TO BE VERY INTENTIONAL SO THAT WE HAVE BUILDINGS THAT THE CITY WILL BE PROUD OF NOW AND IN THE FUTURE. WE WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE A CAMPUS, LIKE IT WAS ALWAYS MEANT TO BE THERE. SO THEY TOOK THEIR INSPIRATION FROM THE LIBRARY. SO IT'LL IT'LL LOOK LIKE KIND OF MORE OF A CAMPUS FEEL AND REALLY FLOW. SO I LOVE THE DETAILING AND I DON'T KNOW, COACH, BUT THERE'S EVEN A, THE BENCHES IN THE SHAPE OF A BONE, SO I DON'T KNOW. THE FLOOR ALSO COOLED. I MEAN I KNOW YOU GOT I KNOW YOU DON'T. SO HERE'S MORE OF A CLOSE UP WITH IT. OKAY. MOVING ON, HENSON PARK. OH YES PLEASE. YES I'M SORRY. IN REGARDS TO THE QUARANTINE SURGICAL AREA. AND I KNOW WE MAY NOT EVEN BE THERE YET AS FAR AS FLOORING OR. I MEAN, WHAT IS OUR PLAN TO ENSURE? I MEAN, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW I HOPE WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT QUARANTINE SURGICAL CLOSET STORAGE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WANT TO CALL IT, BUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO ENSURE THINGS LIKE THE PATHOGENS ARE NOT SPREAD TO THE OTHER AREAS? WE HAVE A SEPARATE MECHANICAL SYSTEM DEDICATED JUST FOR THAT. SO WE'RE SORT OF TREATING IT AS IF IT WERE A HUMAN SURGICAL ROOM ESSENTIALLY. SO 100% OUTSIDE AIR, VERY NICE MEDICAL LIGHTING, STAINLESS STEEL FIXTURES. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT AN INTEGRAL CODE BASE AS WELL. SO VERY BUT WE'LL LOOK AT LIKE EITHER SHEET COVERINGS OR STICKY MATS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO THAT WE'RE NOT WALKING THROUGH THE HALLWAYS. I MEAN, BECAUSE SOME PATHOGENS CAN LIKE, YOU KNOW. YES. AND I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY HAS TOURED OUR EXISTING SHELTER, BUT IF YOU HAD, YOU WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY HORRIFIED BY. WHAT THE IF YOU WANT TO LIKE, SHE SAID, IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT A SURGERY ROOM, I'VE NEVER SEEN A SURGERY ROOM LOOK LIKE THAT. NO. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON, HENSON PARK. HENSON PARK IS TRULY ONE OF THE JEWELS OF OUR CITY. PEOPLE LOVE IT. THEY WALK IN IT ALL THE TIME, BUT IT WAS NEVER ENGINEERED CORRECTLY TO BEGIN WITH. IT WAS JUST KIND OF DONE ON A SHOESTRING BUDGET. AND PARTS WERE. THAT'S A GOOD PLACE FOR A PATH. LET'S PUT IT THERE. IT'S PIECEMEALED. YES. AND SO THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY. AND I WILL SAY, WHILE I WAS OUT TAKING THIS PICTURE, I MET A REALLY NICE GENTLEMAN WHO CAME UP AND TOLD ME I WAS OVERDRESSED. I WAS IN A SUIT TO BE TAKING PICTURES AND I EXPLAINED WHAT I WAS DOING. HE WAS SO EXCITED ABOUT IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HE'S RETIRED AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HE WALKS EVERY SINGLE DAY.

I THINK WE ALL KNOW A COUPLE OF PEOPLE UP HERE WHO ARE ALSO FREQUENT WALKERS. 2.4 MILES. SO A WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR IT TO BE VERSUS WHAT IT CURRENTLY IS. SO IT NEEDS TO BE WIDENED OUT SO THAT IT CAN BE INCLUSIVE. RIGHT NOW, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE FOR BICYCLISTS AND WALKERS. YOU CAN

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WILLIAMS LAUGHED OVER THE TERM BEACH VOLLEYBALL IN ARKANSAS BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BEACHES, BUT THAT IS WHAT THEY CALL IT. SO RIGHT NOW YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF THE COLLEGES IN ARKANSAS HAVE ARE NOW HAVING SCHOLARSHIPS FOR BEACH VOLLEYBALL IN NORTHWEST ARKANSAS. IT IS GROWING BY LEAPS AND BOUNDS. THEY ARE BUILDING COURTS LEFT AND RIGHT, AND THEY'RE USING IT FOR NOT ONLY TOURNAMENTS, RECREATION FOR KIDS, BUT ALSO NOW THEY'VE GOT ADULT LEAGUES AS WELL. SO THERE IS A LOT OF POTENTIAL. AND RIGHT NOW IN CENTRAL ARKANSAS, WE CAN CORNER THE MARKET ON THIS AREA AND HAVING TOURNAMENTS. SO YOU AS YOU COME INTO IT TO YOUR LEFT, YOU'VE GOT THE SIX COURTS AND YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER THREE RIGHT THERE. THAT'S WHAT THAT IS. AND IN BETWEEN YOU DO HAVE COVERED AREAS. YOU HAVE DOWN BELOW IT A RESTROOM THAT WOULD BE LIKE WE'VE PUT IN HENSON PARK, LIKE WE'VE PUT AT CITY HALL PARK WITH A AN ATTACHED MISTING STATION. THERE'S ROOM FOR BUS PARKING FOR TOURNAMENTS, AS WELL AS OVERALL PARKING FOR IT. ONE OF THE THINGS TOO, YOU MIGHT NOTE ALL THE WAY AROUND IT, IS A WALKING BIKE TRAIL. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE NOTICED UP AT CITY HALL PARK IS THE AMOUNT OF FAMILIES THAT COME UP HERE TO TEACH THEIR KIDS HOW TO RIDE BIKES AND TO WALK AROUND WHILE THEY WORK OUT. THEIR KIDS ARE RIDING THEIR BIKES ON THE CURRENT TRAILS. SO AS YOU CONTINUE ON, YOU'VE GOT PICKLEBALL COURTS. ONE OF THE OOPS. ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS RIGHT NOW FOR OUR OUTDOOR COURTS IS THEY WISH THAT WE HAD SOME COVERED PICKLEBALL COURTS FOR INCLEMENT WEATHER. SO WHAT THIS WOULD ALLOW THE TO THE LEFT IS THE WEST. AND SO WE WOULD COVER TWO OF THEM. BUT THOSE TWO WOULD THEN ALSO GIVE SOME SHADE TO THE OTHER ONES AS WELL. AS YOU CONTINUE ON AROUND THERE ARE TWO BASKETBALL COURTS. THEY WOULD BE SIDE BY SIDE, ONE COVERED, ONE NOT COVERED. SO THIS COULD BE A PLACE THAT PEOPLE COULD GO DURING INCLEMENT WEATHER, WINTER, SO FORTH. ANOTHER BATHROOM FACILITY AND DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE PICKLEBALL COURTS. WE HAVE A BUILDING. YOU CAN SEE NUMBER FIVE THERE THAT WOULD ALSO HOUSE RESTROOMS AS WELL AS CONCESSION STAND THAT COULD BE USED FOR WHEN WE HAVE THE SAND VOLLEYBALL TOURNAMENTS. AS WE CONTINUE ON AROUND PUMP TRACK. SO WE WOULD BE HAVING A PUMP TRACK. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT. COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS COULD TELL YOU PRETTY MUCH AT ALMOST EVERY SINGLE PARKS AND RECREATION MEETING. THAT'S ONE OF THE MAJOR WISH LISTS. AND SO WE HAVE ONE FOR OLDER KIDS AND ONE AND OLDER KIDS AND MORE OF YOUR ADULTS. AND THEN A LITTLE KID PUMP TRACK FOR SO THAT YOUR LITTLES CAN LEARN HOW TO USE A PUMP TRACK. BESIDE THAT, WE HAVE OUR LITTLE KID PLAYGROUND, AND IT DOES HAVE SHADING. AND SO YOU'VE GOT ALL SORTS OF THINGS. LIKE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WHEN I SPOKE TO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KIDS AND I SAID, TELL ME YOUR FAVORITE PARKS AND WHY. AND THIS WAS BEFORE I CAME TO OFFICE. AND THE THREE THINGS THAT WERE SAID REPEATEDLY, THEY LOVED THE BOAT AT LAKEWOOD STIMULATES THE IMAGINATION. THEY LOVE THE ROCKET SLIDE AT BURNS PARK. ONCE AGAIN, IT'S ONE OF THOSE LITTLE SIGNATURE PIECES, AND THEY LOVE THE RIVER MARKET FOR THE TUNNELS, SO THAT I TOOK ALL THOSE ELEMENTS. AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT THE KIDS SAID IS IT'S NOT A PARK UNLESS YOU

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IF YOU LOOK DOWN AT NUMBER NINE, YOU SEE A UNIQUE FEATURE. WE WOULD BE THE FIRST ONES IN CENTRAL ARKANSAS TO HAVE THE ROUNDED SWINGS WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR PLAY IN THE MIDDLE, MAKING IT UNIQUE. AS YOU MOVE ON OVER, YOU'VE GOT THE ZIP LINES. AND THEN AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU GUYS TALK TO KIDS, BUT THEY ARE ALL ABOUT THE ZIP LINES AT PLAYGROUNDS, MOVING OVER. YOU'VE GOT YOUR BIG KID PLAYGROUND BECAUSE AS WE KNOW, WE SEE KIDS OF ALL AGES PLAYING ON OUR PLAYGROUND AT CITY HALL PARK. PLAYGROUNDS ARE NOT JUST FOR LITTLE BITTIES. AND SO WITH THAT, GOING WITH THE THEMES OF HAVING EACH ONE BE UNIQUE, THIS ONE IS CASTLE KINGDOM. SO IF YOU THINK IT'S VERY KEEPING WITH SHERWOOD MADE MARION THINK ABOUT HOW THAT ALL PLAYS. WE ACTUALLY GOT THIS IDEA FROM A SIGNATURE PLAYGROUND IN IOWA. ONCE AGAIN, YOU'VE GOT SEATING, YOU'VE GOT SHADE AREAS, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT ONCE AGAIN, ANOTHER LITTLE BATHROOM AREA OVER THERE AS WELL. SO HERE ARE SOME MORE. THIS IS WHAT CASTLE KINGDOM LOOKS LIKE. ALL THIS HAS BEEN INCLUDED AND HAS BEEN PRICED WITH IT. WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE EACH OF OUR PLAYGROUNDS HELP TO STIMULATE THE IMAGINATION. THE SHERWOOD BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL FIELDS RENOVATIONS. ONCE UPON A TIME, SHERWOOD HAD THE PREMIER BASEBALL PARKS IN THE STATE. THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO, AND WE ARE NOWHERE NEAR THE PREMIER BASEBALL PARKS ANYMORE, AND IT'S TIME THAT WE DO SOME MAJOR RENOVATIONS WITH IT. SO WE TALKED ABOUT, I DON'T THINK THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS EVER GOING TO BUILD A HIGH SCHOOL BASEBALL FIELD OR HELP PARTNER WITH US. SO THIS DOES INCLUDE A FULL TURF FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL FIELD, WHICH IS IN KEEPING WITH THE OTHER HIGH SCHOOLS HAVE IT. IT PUTS US ON PAR WITH THAT. AND THAT IS FIELD ONE. THAT WOULD BE NEW BACKSTOPS, THE NETTING INSTEAD OF THE FENCING PLUS FENCING AND A NEW CANOPY. WE WOULD ALSO BE MOVING THE GIRLS SOFTBALL FIELD OVER BY THE BOYS BASEBALL FIELD FOR HIGH SCHOOL, MAKING A LOT EASIER FOR PRACTICE TIMES AND SO FORTH. INSTEAD OF BEING ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE COMPLEX, ALL OF THEM, ALL THE REST OF THEM WILL HAVE EARTHWORK DONE. BECAUSE OUR FIELDS ARE LUMPY. THERE ARE ALL DIFFERENT SIZES. THERE'S NO CONSISTENCY. OUR IRRIGATION SYSTEM IS JUST EVERY YEAR WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH IT. SO NEW INFIELD TURFING, SOD, IRRIGATED OUTFIELDS, DIRT WORK, NEW BACKSTOPS, NEW NETTING, NEW FENCING, NEW DUGOUTS. BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN IN THE SPRINGTIME, BUT THEY ARE A SLOPPY MESS. PROBABLY HAVE BEEN FOR A LONG TIME FOR SOME OF YOU. AND THEN. AND THAT'S FOR SOFTBALL, FOR BASEBALL, ETC. THIS IS SHERWOOD FOREST AS WE SEE IT TODAY. THE WHITE BUILDING IS THE CURRENT SHERWOOD FOREST. OUT OF ALL OF THIS, THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD REMAIN THE SAME IS THE SPLASH PAD AND THE PAVILION. THE MEMORIAL? YES, THE MEMORIAL WILL BE MOVED, AND WE'LL SHOW YOU THAT IN JUST A SECOND. SO THE INSPIRATION FOR ALL OF THIS IS THE PAVILION.

IT'S BEAUTIFUL. IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ABLE TO REALLY TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE IN. A&P DID A I BELIEVE THIS WAS A&P SPONSORED AND THEY DID A GREAT JOB WITH IT. IT IS SO WELL DONE. THE CEILING HAS WOOD IN IT. IT'S BEAUTIFUL. BUT WE TOOK THOSE ELEMENTS TO ONCE AGAIN CREATE A CAMPUS FEEL SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE IT BELONGS, SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ALL BE PROUD OF. SO THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF ALL THIS GOES THROUGH. SO YOU'VE GOT YOUR EXISTING SPLASH PAD. THAT'S NUMBER FOUR. YOUR EXISTING PAVILION IS NUMBER THREE. WE WOULD MOVE THE MEMORIAL OVER. THAT'S NUMBER FIVE AND MAKE THAT THE FOCAL POINT BECAUSE IT IS

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SO YOU HAVE THEM FOR THE FOUR COURTS AND THEN FOR THE OTHER FOUR COURTS. AND THEN YOU HAVE ALSO IN THE OFFICES AND THEN YOU'VE GOT YOUR IT COULD BE RENTED AS A PARTY ROOM OR IT COULD A LOT OF TIMES THEY USE IT AS A COACH'S HOSPITALITY ROOM WHEN THEY BRING IN THESE BIG TOURNAMENTS. SO YOU CAN DO THIS FOR BASKETBALL AND THEN IT FLEXES INTO 16 VOLLEYBALL COURTS. WE FOUND OUT 16 IS THE MAGIC NUMBER. YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THAT IN ORDER TO HAVE A NATIONAL QUALIFYING EVENT. SO. WHICH CAN TURN INTO 24 PICKLEBALL COURTS THAT. ONCE AGAIN HERE WE HAVE FROM THE OUTSIDE. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS IS KIND OF PICTURES OF GAME TIME. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S NEAT THAT WE'VE LEARNED FROM GAME TIME IS HOW THEY UTILIZE THE CEILING. AND THEY CAN PULL EVERYTHING UP INTO THE CEILING SO YOUR NETTING CAN COME DOWN. IT'S VERY EASY TO FLEX AMONGST DIFFERENT THINGS. YOU CAN ALSO DO MULTIPLE THINGS AT THE SAME TIME. SO ONE OF THE BEAUTIFUL THINGS IS LIKE WITH OUR BASKETBALL PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE OUR REC LEAGUE BASKETBALL.

WE HAVE TO TURN, TURN AWAY SO MANY KIDS. THIS ALLOWS US TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND IT. THIS ALLOWS US TO BE ABLE TO DO SO MUCH MORE WHEN IT COMES TO THAT. CABOT. DURING THE WEEK, THEY RENT OUT COURTS FOR BASKETBALL. THEY RENT THEM OUT FOR INDIVIDUALS, FOR PICKLEBALL, THEY RENT OUT COURTS FOR YOUR YOUR VOLLEYBALL. I WILL SAY, OUT OF EVERYTHING WE'VE LEARNED, THE BIG MONEY MAKER AND I MEAN BIG MONEY MAKER IS VOLLEYBALL. IT IS JUST A HUGE SPORT FOR YOUNG WOMEN. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FOUND OUT WITH ALL OF THIS IS THAT THEY WANT MORE OPTIONS. RIGHT NOW, IT'S WEEKEND AFTER WEEKEND AFTER WEEKEND AFTER WEEKEND, AND THE SAME FACILITY BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN REALLY HOST THAT. THEY LOVE THE IDEA OF BEING ABLE TO BE MORE CENTRALLY LOCATED BECAUSE OF YOUR ACCESS TO HOTELS, RESTAURANTS, AND SO FORTH. OUR HOTELS, WHEN I TALK

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OKAY. MULTI-PURPOSE EVENT CENTER 21,000. SO WHEN WE WENT AND BENCHMARKED THE BENTON EVENT CENTER, A LOT OF LESSONS. WE CAN KIND OF LEARN FROM THEM. WE KNOW THAT HAVING FLEXIBILITY OF SPACE IS IMPORTANT. WE AREN'T LOOKING TO BUILD LIKE A CONVENTION CENTER BECAUSE NORTH LITTLE ROCK'S BUILDING A CONVENTION CENTER. THIS IS MORE BANQUETS, WEDDINGS, CORPORATE RETREATS, MEETINGS AND SO FORTH. SO THE WAY THAT WE'VE GOT THIS ARRANGED, YOUR MAIN ROOM, THIS WOULD SEAT 512 BANQUET STYLE COMFORTABLY AND YOUR OTHER YOUR OTHER SPACE IS TWO SEATS, 200 BANQUET STYLE. NOW WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU DIFFERENT WAYS IN WHICH YOU CAN CONFIGURE IT. AND CAN YOU PLAY VANNA AGAIN? SURE. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS TO POINT OUT. YOU COULD ACTUALLY HAVE TWO WEDDINGS GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME. YOU HAVE A DOOR IN THE MIDDLE THAT PEOPLE COULD UTILIZE AND GO BACK AND FORTH THROUGH, OR COULD SEGMENT OFF THE TWO AREAS. YOU HAVE TWO WARMING KITCHENS, YOU'VE GOT TWO. YOU'VE GOT TWO BRIDE'S ROOMS, YOU'VE GOT SEPARATE BATHROOMS, YOU'VE GOT TWO GROOMS ROOMS, YOU'VE GOT SEPARATE STORAGE AREAS, ETC. YOUR OFFICE IS KIND OF CENTRALLY LOCATED RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE. VERY GOOD. OKAY. NOW HERE'S ANOTHER CONFIGURATION FOR EXAMPLE. SO WE SAW IN BENTON HOW THEY HAVE WALLS THAT ARE RETRACTABLE. SO YOU CAN NOW HAVE THREE DIFFERENT SPACES. IF YOU DECIDED TO NOT DO IT BANQUET STYLE YOU CAN LITERALLY 840 SEATS COMFORTABLY. YOU COULD HAVE A CONCERT IN THERE. AND THAT'S NOT A STAGE, IT'S A PLATFORM. I LEARNED THAT THE OTHER ONE HAS 300 SEATS. ONCE AGAIN, YOU CAN CONFIGURE IT DIFFERENT WAYS, BUT WE KNOW THAT IT'S WHERE YOU PUT YOUR MEDIA THAT YOU YOU CAN HAVE IT SET UP FOR DIFFERENT WAYS. CAN YOU? ANOTHER THING THAT I THOUGHT THAT CHRIS DID, WHICH WAS VERY CLEVER, IS IF YOU HAVE IT SET UP THIS WAY, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE A SEPARATE ENTRANCE FOR THE FAR BACK ROOM. SEE RIGHT THERE VERSUS THE OTHER ROOMS. THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. ONCE AGAIN, IT'S DESIGNED TO LOOK LIKE A CAMPUS USING THE SAME MATERIALS. SO THAT DOOR WE TALKED ABOUT DIVIDING THE SPACES. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE YOU'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT THERE.

OF COURSE WHEN YOU HAVE WEDDINGS YOU YOU WANT TO UTILIZE NATURAL LIGHTING. IT'S THE BEST KIND OF LIGHTING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE MAKES YOU FEEL RELAXED. IT'S ALSO SUCH A BEAUTIFUL LOCATION AS IT WILL OVERLOOK THE TREE LINE OF SHERWOOD FOREST. SO REALLY KIND OF UTILIZING NATURE WITH IT. YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE PAVILION. THERE'S A WATER FEATURE, AS WE ALL KNOW THAT, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE WEDDINGS, YOU WANT A PRETTY BACKDROP FOR YOUR BRIDE TO TAKE PICTURES. ALSO, FOR A CORPORATE RETREAT, IT MAKES FOR A REALLY RELAXING AREA JUST TO KIND OF

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NO, WE DO NOT. SO THIS WAS THE INSPIRATION FOR THE BRIDAL ROOM. EVERYTHING IS YOU'VE GOT THE MAKEUP, MIRRORS, ALL THAT GOOD STUFF THAT ARE ALL ALREADY THERE. I KNOW THAT KATIE HAS DONE WONDERS OVER AND TRYING TO CLEAN UP SHERWOOD FOREST, BUT SHE ACTUALLY HAD TO TURN A CLOSET INTO A BRIDE'S ROOM. SO. SO YOU CAN KIND OF TAKE A LOOK AT THIS WOULD BE THE BACK VIEW OF IT. AND I WAS TOLD, THOSE ARE NOT FOUNTAINS, THEY'RE AERATORS. SO YOU KNOW WHAT? AERATORS IS WHAT THEY'RE CALLED I GUESS FOUNTAINS ARE. WELL THEY CAN BE IT'S THERE TO OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF IT. RIGHT. OOPS. IN THE EVENING YOU COULD PUT TEA LIGHTS IN THERE BUT JUST ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL. AND THEN THIS WOULD BE KIND OF LIKE A DRONE SHOT. SO YOU CAN GET AN IDEA IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE SETTING MARYLAND WOULD BE IN THE BACKGROUND. YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, THE SPORTS COMPLEX AND THEN YOUR SPECIAL EVENTS CENTER.

AND I WILL IF Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS OF THESE GUYS AND THEY CAN KIND OF TELL YOU WHY THEY DID DESIGN THE THINGS IN WHICH THEY DID. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? OR MAYBE IT'S CHRIS QUESTION. HAVING IT FOR LIKE 800 PEOPLE. SO I MEAN, WE COULD HAVE 12 BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT GOING ON AND 800 PEOPLE DOWN HERE. I DIDN'T SEE THAT MUCH PARKING. YEP. LET ME GO BACK TO THIS SLIDE. SO THE THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL WAY ONTO MARYLAND. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL SEE THAT ON THE LEFT YOU HAVE THE ONE WHERE YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW. THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL ONE ALSO THAT BACK ROAD, IT ALLOWS US TO GET FLEX PARKING. HOLD ON. LET ME ADDING THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.

SO THIS IS THE EXISTING ONE. YEP. YOU COME IN AND THEN BASICALLY ALL OF THIS PARKING IS GETTING ADDED. AND WE'RE ADDING ALSO ANOTHER CURB CUT HERE. SO WHEN YOU DO BEGIN TO HAVE THE SHERWOOD LIGHTS YOU CAN ALSO BRING THEM IN. AND THEN JUST STRAIGHT OUT. SO THE OLD PAVILION AT THE TOP CENTER IS GOING TO BE GONE. THE OLD WOODEN ONE, THE OLD WOODEN ONE, THE ORIGINAL PAVILION, THE ORIGINAL PAVILION THAT'S GOING DOWN BY THE BIG TREE. BY THE BIG TREE.

YES, YES. THAT THAT WOULD ALL BE. THAT WOULD ALL BE TAKEN OUT. YES. THE BIG TREE. NO, THE PAVILION. THE. I'M NOT SEEING, NOT THE NICE PAVILION. THE BIG TREE. WHICH BIG TREE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THE BIG TREE BY THE PAVILION. THE OLD PAVILION IS GOING OUT. MARINA. SHE SAID WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT. I DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE. NO, WE'RE NOT MESSING WITH ANY OF THOSE. MORE OR LESS. YEAH. THE EDGE OF THE EXISTING PARKING LOT IS STAYING THE SAME. SO WE'RE NOT DEMOING OUT THIS DIRECTION, BUT WE ARE GOING THIS DIRECTION AND THIS DIRECTION. AND I WANTED TO ALSO MENTION THAT ALL THE BUILDINGS ENTRANCES FACE EACH OTHER. SO THIS WILL REALLY END UP BECOMING THAT MAIN ENTRY POINT WHERE IF YOU STAND THERE, YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING GOING ON HERE THROUGH THAT GLASS HERE AND EVEN IN THE PAVILION. SO WE WANTED TO TRY TO THE MAYOR'S POINT EARLIER, CREATE A CAMPUS OUT OF THAT SAME WOOD STONE. BUT THAT'S PART OF WHY EVERYTHING IS SORT OF INTERNALLY FOCUSED. SO WITH THAT SPORTS PAVILION, SPORTS PARKING, WE 398, RIGHT. BARELY. ALMOST

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THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO. YEAH. CABOT'S IS 22 MILLION OKAY. WELL. WE'LL ANSWER THAT QUESTION BACK TO HER THEN. YES. YOU HANDLE THAT FOR US. IF WE COULD PLEASE READ THE ITEM. AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS IF THAT'S AN ORDINANCE CALLING AND SETTING A DATE FOR A SPECIAL ELECTION ON THE QUESTIONS OF THE ISSUANCE BY THE CITY OF SALES AND USE TAX, REFUNDING BONDS AND SALES, AND USE TAX CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BONDS FOR VARIOUS PURPOSES, LEVYING A REPLACEMENT LOCAL SALES AND USE TAX AT THE RATE OF THREE QUARTERS OF 1% FOR THE PURPOSE OF RETIRING SUCH BONDS AND PRESCRIBING OTHER MATTERS PERTAINING THERETO. FIRST READING. AND WE HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE SIGNED UP. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, MA'AM. WHAT'S YOUR NAME? GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMAN, I'M GLENN STARS. I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT THE ANIMAL SHELTER. THAT'S VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART. I FOSTER, AND I'M ON THE BOARD FOR LAST CHANCE ARKANSAS. IT'S A DOG RESCUE ORGANIZATION. SO I JUST WANT TO IMPLORE TO YOU THE PROPOSED LOCATION IS JUST OPTIMAL FOR ACCESSIBILITY FOR OUR POTENTIAL ADOPTERS. BEING NESTLED IN A NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT TO THE LIBRARY AND ALSO, MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE SCHOOL, BECAUSE OUR KIDS HAVE TO NOW GET VOLUNTEER HOURS, IT WOULD BE PERFECT FOR US TO TALK WITH OUR COUNCIL AND COUNSELORS AT SCHOOL AND SEE IF THOSE KIDS COULD GO TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND VOLUNTEER HOURS THERE. SO I JUST THINK THAT WE REALLY, IF WE THINK THROUGH THIS AND THINK BIG PICTURE, THIS IS REALLY GOING TO BE GREAT FOR ALL OF US AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S A CONVENIENT LOCATION. IT'S SO SAFE RIGHT NOW. I MEAN, YOU'VE HEARD IT'S AND YOU'VE BEEN THERE. IT'S JUST HORRIBLE RIGHT NOW. AND I REALLY THINK ALSO THAT IT'LL BE A GREAT THING FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO BE A PART OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER. AND IF YOU SEE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE GOING ON BECAUSE IT'S NOT STOPPING, THERE'S WAY MORE NEED THAN RESOURCES. SO WITH ALL OF THE SHELTERS BEING COMPLETELY FULL, OUR FOSTERS, OUR DOG RESCUES ARE SO FULL RIGHT NOW. SO IF WE COULD LOOK AT THIS FROM A CRITICAL ISSUE AND A COMMUNITY COULD COME TOGETHER AND MAYBE FIX THIS ISSUE AND HAVE SOMEWHERE SAFE FOR THE DOGS TO GO, THEN I THINK THAT WOULD BE SO MUCH BETTER FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND JUST GET THE WORD OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN EPIDEMIC, REALLY. AND IF WE TRY HARD TO LOOK AT IT AS THAT, THEN I THINK MAYBE WE CAN CHANGE SOME THINGS.

SO I JUST IMPLORE THAT YOU PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE PASS THIS. WE DESPERATELY NEED THIS

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YOU HAVE 30S SPEND YOUR MONEY AND WATCH A LITTLE LEAGUE GAME OR YOUNG GIRLS PLAY SOME VOLLEYBALL. THANK YOU, THANK YOU MISS. DID WE READ IT? DISCUSSION IS MR. LEON, ARE YOU PREPARED TO SPEAK ABOUT SOME BOND QUESTIONS ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? NO. YES. OKAY. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE.

GENERAL QUESTIONS. OKAY. SO I'M SORRY. WILL YOU TELL ME YOUR NAME? YEAH, I'M MICHAEL MCBRIDE.

I'M WITH STEPHENS INC. OKAY. THANK YOU. WILL YOU JUST KIND OF EDUCATE US A LITTLE BIT? THIS THE 4.1 MILLION THAT'S ESSENTIALLY REFINANCING A PORTION. SO. CORRECT. AND THE WAY THIS IS WORDED, IF YOU'LL RECALL, THE CITY INITIALLY PASSED AND HAS OUTSTANDING A 0.75% SALES AND USE TAX. THAT IS GOING TO THE REPAYMENT OF YOUR 2018 AND 2023 BONDS. AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, ANY EXCESS FROM THAT TAX GOES TO THE REPAYMENT OF THAT DEBT EARLY. IT'S THE SAME PROCESS WE'RE LOOKING AT SETTING UP HERE WITH A BOND TAX. AND THEN WHAT WE DISCUSS IS A COVERAGE TAX. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING IS USING THE NEW BOND ISSUE TO PAY OFF THE OLD BOND ISSUE, AND THEN GENERATE ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION FUNDS FROM THAT FROM THAT ISSUANCE. SO THE 4.1 IS BASICALLY JUST GOING BACK TO PAY. YES. AND IT AND IT'S HARD FOR US TO GET YOU AN EXACT NUMBER. IT'S GOING TO BE LESS THAN THAT BECAUSE THERE WILL BE COLLECTIONS FROM FROM NOW TO THEN TALKING WITH YOUR BOND COUNSEL, THE IDEA WAS LET'S LOOK AT WHAT'S CURRENTLY OUTSTANDING. YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD BE FOR AN ELECTION IN NOVEMBER. ALL THE COLLECTIONS BETWEEN NOW AND THEN WOULD JUST GO TO REPAY THAT EVEN FURTHER. SO WE HAVE TO SET IT AS A NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD PROJECT. IT WOULD BE FOR NOW, I WOULD IMAGINE IT WOULD BE SOMEWHAT LESS THAN THAT WHEN WE ACTUALLY ISSUE BONDS. IF THIS INITIATIVE IS SUCCESSFUL, WHY ARE THE TWO AMOUNTS SEPARATED, THE 79 MILLION AND THE 11.5 MILLION FOR

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AND THEN KIND OF IMPORTANT TO KNOW IN ORDER THIS IS JUST AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF THE BONDS. YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD HAVE A CHANCE AT A BOND ORDINANCE AT THAT POINT TO ACTUALLY APPROVE HOW MUCH YOU WERE GOING TO ISSUE IN THAT CATEGORY, BUT YOU COULD NOT ISSUE THE ANIMAL SHELTER BONDS IF THAT QUESTION FAILED. OKAY. SO WOULD IT BE SAFE TO SAY THAT IT WOULD BE LIKE HAVING BEFORE YOU TAKE OUT A NEW MORTGAGE, YOU GOT TO PAY THE OLD ONE OFF FIRST. THAT'S RIGHT. SO THAT'S THE THING WE HAVE TO COMMUNICATE TO THE PUBLIC. IF THIS WERE TO PASS. THAT'S RIGHT.

TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT OLD BOND GETS PAID OFF FROM FROM 2018. THAT'S RIGHT. IF NOTHING PASSES, THE SAME TAX STAYS IN PLACE THAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW AND JUST GOES TO PAY THOSE EXISTING BONDS. SO MY QUESTION IS NOT SO MUCH FOR WELL, IT MAY BE FOR YOU, I DON'T KNOW. YOU SAID, YOU SAID THAT THE PARKS COULD BE LUMPED TOGETHER AND MAYBE I MAYBE I'M REMEMBERING WRONG OR SOMETHING. BUT I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT MY NOTES. I THOUGHT AT THE WORKSHOP WE TALKED ABOUT SEPARATING NOT JUST THE ANIMAL SHELTER OFF, BUT SEPARATING SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS OFF WHERE THEY WOULD BE VOTED ON SEPARATELY. WE ACTUALLY TALKED JUST THE OPPOSITE, BECAUSE GENERALLY YOU YOU HAVE A MUCH BETTER RESULT WITH THINGS WHEN YOU DON'T PUT A TON OF DIFFERENT ITEMS ON. SO THAT THAT'S PART OF THE STRATEGY OF DOING THINGS THAT TOUCH ON DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY. SO LIKE, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, THE HENSON TRAIL THAT'S, YOU KNOW, FOR PEOPLE WHO WALK THE HENSON TRAIL EVERY DAY, THAT MAY BE LIKE THEIR PROJECT. AND FOR SOMEBODY ELSE, IT MAY BE THE BASEBALL PARK, YOU KNOW, BUT MAYBE THE HENSON TRAIL, LIKE, THEIR KIDS, NEVER PLAYED BASEBALL, YOU KNOW. SO THAT'S WHY TYPICALLY YOU DO IT THIS WAY. IS AM I SPEAKING OUT OF TURN WITH THAT OR. NO. THAT'S YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT KIND OF A REAL LAUNDRY LIST OF INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THINGS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, ALSO, YOU MAY NOT ISSUE THESE BONDS FOR SIX MONTHS AND YOU GOT TO LOOK AT ACTUAL COSTS AT THE TIME, AND YOU CAN ALWAYS BREAK IT OUT INTO AS MANY QUESTIONS AS YOU WANT. BUT BUT THAT'S RIGHT. PEOPLE THEN MAYBE AREN'T EXCITED ABOUT ONE OR THE OTHER. SO AND SO WE DID THAT WITH THE LAST ISSUE. RIGHT. IT WAS ALL OF THE STREET PROJECTS TOGETHER. THEY WERE NOT BROKEN INTO. YOU'VE GOT TO VOTE FOR JACKSONVILLE CATO OR COUNTRY CLUB OR IT WAS A HOLISTIC APPROACH. I THINK WHAT WE DID WITH THAT ONE IS THAT WE JUST RANKED THEM IN ORDER OF THE WAY WE WANTED THEM DONE. WE DIDN'T PUT THEM OUT TO THE VOTERS THAT WAY. WE JUST RANKED THEM INTERNALLY OF THE ORDER WE WANTED THEM DONE. WE DIDN'T PUT THEM TO THE ORDER. WE DIDN'T PUT THEM OUT TO THE VOTERS THAT WAY.

WE INTERNALIZED IT TO OURSELVES IN THE WAY WE WANTED IT DONE. BUT MY QUESTION TO THIS WOULD BE, AND THIS MAY BE A LEGAL QUESTION ON THE WORDING, LIKE ON QUESTION TWO, IT SAYS IT LISTS THE, YOU KNOW, MULTI-PURPOSE CENTER, SPORTS COMPLEX, ATHLETIC FIELDS AND FACILITIES, PLAYGROUNDS, TRAILS, PICNIC TRAILS, PAVILIONS, LAND ACQUISITION, OPEN SPACE, THIS

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THAT'S KIND OF YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE MAYOR SAID WE DON'T SHE DOESN'T INTEND TO DO ANY LAND ACQUISITION. BUT WHAT IF YOU NEED JUST A LITTLE PIECE TO MAKE SOMETHING WORK THERE? THAT'S THE REASON FOR INCLUDING THAT PHRASE THERE. YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE, WHAT IF, LIKE WITH THE HENSON TRAIL, WE NEED A LITTLE SLIVER OF SOMETHING, THEN WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO INCLUDE THAT. IT'S KIND OF THE SAME WAY THAT WE DID THE LAST INITIATIVE, THE WAY THAT THEY WROTE IT. THEY INCLUDED SOME DRAINAGE PROJECTS AND SOME DIFFERENT THINGS AS WELL, EVEN THOUGH THEY WEREN'T SPECIFICALLY NAMED, IT WAS ALLOWED TO THEN USE IT FOR THOSE THINGS. SO THE OTHER THING TOO, THAT DREW, CAN YOU SPEAK REAL QUICK TO KIND OF WHAT THE TIME FRAME DON'T GO TOO FAR WITH THE TIME FRAME WOULD, WOULD LOOK LIKE. ALSO, JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW, WE THE CITY CANNOT SPEND ANY MONEY. WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT, BUT WE CAN'T SPEND ANY MONEY THAT HAS TO BE DONE THROUGH A DIFFERENT ORGANIZATION, WHICH IS WHAT WE DID BEFORE. WE'VE REACHED OUT. AND SO OUR HOPE IS TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE CHAMBER SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH ACC. FOR SHERWOOD AS THE FUNDRAISING ARM, AND TO REALLY UTILIZE THOSE SKILLS FOR MARKETING AND DIFFERENT THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES. BUT BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON IS FOR IT TO GO TO THE VOTERS. THE VOTERS WILL ULTIMATELY YES OR NO. AND IF THEY DON'T WANT IT, WE GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY WANTED. BUT TIME FRAME IS IT WOULD GO ON THE BALLOT FOR THIS NOVEMBER AND THEN TAKE IT FROM THERE. CORRECT. SO I'M TALKING ABOUT CONSTRUCTION TIMEFRAMES, CORRECT? YES, SIR. SO WE'VE WE'VE BASICALLY TRIED TO PUT THESE INTO TRANCHES BECAUSE THE BOND COUNCIL CAN CAN TELL ME OTHERWISE. BUT WE KNOW THAT THERE'S YOU'RE PAYING THINGS.

YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT MONEY ACCRUING INTEREST AS WELL. SO YOU CAN'T DO ALL THESE PROJECTS AT THE SAME TIME. WE DO HAVE SOME OF THEM STAGED TOGETHER. SO I'LL KIND OF START WITH THE ANIMAL SERVICES. WE'VE GOT THAT PROJECTED ANTICIPATION START DATE FOR JUNE 1ST OF 26.

SO THAT'S A 12 MONTH ANTICIPATED CONSTRUCTION TIME FRAME. SO YOU'D BE LOOKING AT JUNE 1ST OF 27 FOR POTENTIAL COMPLETION. THESE ARE ALL PROJECTED BASED ON WHEN WE DO GET THE FINAL GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE SHERWOOD FOREST STARTING AROUND THAT SAME JUNE 1ST OF 26. TIME FRAME WOULD TAKE ABOUT 22 MONTHS ESTIMATED GIVEN WEATHER AND EVERYTHING. LOOKING AT THREE 3128 IS AN ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE. SO 22 MONTHS THERE. THEN YOU'VE GOT THE BALL FIELDS. AND I KNOW WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH BLAKE AND SEAN, TALKING THROUGH THE LOGISTICS, LOGISTICS OF THOSE, MAKING SURE THAT THERE IS A FALL AND SPRING BALL AND EVERYTHING BEING DONE COORDINATED WISE.

THOSE PROJECTS ARE ANTICIPATED ALSO. JUNE 1ST OF 26, APPROXIMATELY NINE MONTHS TO GET THAT DONE AGAIN IN PHASES. AND THAT WOULD BE LOOKING AT THREE ONE OF 27 FOR COMPLETION OF THAT. AND JUST TO NOTE AS WELL, WE DO ANTICIPATE BEING ABLE TO OVERSEE THE SHERWOOD FOREST PROGRAM WITH A WITH A TEAM, ONE TEAM, BEING ABLE TO SUPERVISE BOTH OF THOSE PROGRAMS AT THE SAME TIME, AND THEN MOVING ON TO THE NORTH SHERWOOD PARK, LOOKING AT SEPTEMBER OF 27 AS A START DATE, APPROXIMATELY TEN MONTHS, AND THAT BEING COMPLETED IN SEVEN, ONE, 28. AND THEN THE LAST ONE ON HENSON TRAIL START DATE OF SEVEN ONE OF 26 EIGHT MONTHS. PROJECTED CONSTRUCTION TIMEFRAME ENDING IN THREE 127. SO YOUR LAST PROJECT IS THE KATO ROAD PROJECT BECAUSE OF THE WORK BEING DONE. EXCUSE ME, NORTH SHERWOOD PARK, BECAUSE OF THE WORK BEING DONE ON KATO THAT CURRENTLY IS BEING UTILIZED FOR CONSTRUCTION PURPOSES. SO THAT'S PHASE AT THE VERY END OF THE PROGRAM, AND IT WILL BE THE LAST THING WE'LL DO. AND BASED ON WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS US TO START FIRST. ALSO, CAN YOU KIND OF SPEAK TO IT'S WORKED OUT REALLY WELL. THE WAY THAT CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES WORK AND WHY THIS IS THE WHY WE'RE ABLE

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SO THAT'S ALL BASED ON TIME AND REALLY THAT'S THE GOAL IS TO DO IT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. SO WE'RE WORKING IN CONCERT THE WHOLE TIME. WE ALL HAVE THE SAME GOAL AND END. AND WE ACTUALLY WORK THROUGH THIS IN A IN A VERY PROGRAMMATIC WAY. SO THAT WAY YOU'RE NOT WAITING FOR US TO ESCALATE TO THE NEXT SERIES OF DOCUMENTS. WE'RE WORKING IN CONCERT. SO THAT WAY WHEN YOU SAY YES, THE VOTERS SAY YES, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO BID THE PROJECTS IN THE ORDER THAT YOU WANT US TO PUT THOSE IN THE, IN THE PROGRAM. AND, AND THAT'S QUITE A BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE STREET PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE WE HAD TO WAIT AND WAIT AND WAIT FOR ENGINEERING AND COSTS, YOU KNOW, SO THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION IS WHERE YOU'RE YOU'RE SAVING MONEY AS WELL. SO EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT WE'RE NOT WAITING TO FIGURE OUT PROBLEMS WHEN WE GO TO BID THE PROGRAM. SO WHAT HAPPENS IN A TRADITIONAL FORMAT? YOU GO GET A SET OF DOCUMENTS. AND NO OFFENSE TO MY DESIGN FRIEND HERE, BUT SOMETIMES THEY'RE DESIGNED AND THEN THE BID MARKET STARTS FINDING THINGS THAT DIDN'T GET CAUGHT AN ISSUE DIDN'T GET ADDRESSED, SOMETHING JUST MAYBE AN OVERLOOKED OF SOMETHING THAT WAS INSIGNIFICANT ON PAPER, BUT TURNS OUT TO BE A BIG COST TO THE OWNER. AND SO HAVING US TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME GIVES US THAT ELEMENT OF TEAM. AND WE'RE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH THE PROGRAM WITH THE CITY TO, TO MEET THE DEMANDS OF THE PROJECT. AND THEY'VE BEEN DOING ITERATIVE PRICING UPDATES. SO, AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE CREATING THESE BEAUTIFUL IMAGES. WE'RE ALSO FEEDING THEM ON A BIWEEKLY BASIS, IF NOT MORE OFTEN THAN THAT, SETS OF PLANS THAT THEY ARE THEN USING TO PRICE, WHICH IS REALLY HOW THEY CAME UP WITH THE NUMBERS THAT THEY HAVE TODAY. BUT IT IS A MUCH SAFER WAY OF DOING THE WHAT USED TO BE THE TRADITIONAL DESIGN BID BUILD, BECAUSE WE GET TO THE END AND YOU ALREADY KNOW WHAT THE PRICE IS BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN PRICING IT ALONG THE WHOLE TIME AND WE'RE AND WE'RE GETTING REAL SUB INPUT. THIS IS NOT A GUESSING GAME. WE'RE NOT TAKING A BOX AND SAYING, WELL, HISTORICALLY THIS IS TRENDING. NOW, THERE MAY BE SOME UNKNOWNS IN ANY BUDGET YOU'RE DOING, BUT WE DO AS MUCH REFINEMENT AS POSSIBLE TO GIVE YOU AN ACCURATE NUMBER ON THIS. AT THIS POINT IN THE BUDGET. IT'S ALSO A GREAT CHECKS AND BALANCE SYSTEM. SO YOU KNOW, WHEN BEFORE AN INVOICE, LET'S SAY COMES TO US FIRST, IT'S BEEN CHECKED BY CROMWELL. YES. SO IT'S A CONSTANT CHECK AND BALANCE THROUGH EVERY SINGLE STEP OF THE WAY, WHICH IS WONDERFUL TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE LOOKED AT AND LOOKED AT AGAIN AND, YOU KNOW, IS THIS DO WE NEED TO BE MISSING? YEAH. WE DON'T GET OVERCHARGED EITHER. THAT'S RIGHT. NO. IT'S A BETTER WAY OF DOING ANY KIND OF CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT. I MEAN, IT'S WHY IT EXISTS IS TO HELP MUNICIPALITIES, SCHOOLS. I KNOW THE SCHOOL DISTRICT USES THIS FORM FOR CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT BECAUSE IT IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO DO TO DO CONSTRUCTION. WELL, I CAN'T ECHO I CAN I CAN TESTIFY TO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS RIGHT. THIS IS WHAT I DO EVERY DAY IN THE PROJECTS THAT DON'T HAVE CONSTRUCTION MANAGERS. THEY ALWAYS COME OUT OVER, OVER, OVER BUDGET WHENEVER THEY ACTUALLY BE IT. WHEN YOU DO IT THIS WAY, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE HAVE BETTER NUMBERS SO THAT WHEN IT ACTUALLY GOES TO THE PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WRITING CHECK THE CITIZENS OR WHOEVER IT IS, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE GETTING. SO YES, WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS YES. GOOD. THIS IS THE WAY TO DO IT. YES, YES. SEEING WHO YOU DON'T GET THE CHANGE ORDERS AND YOU DON'T GET ALL THAT THAT'S BEEN DONE ON THE FRONT END. WE KNOW ABOUT THAT, DON'T WE, MARINA? YEAH. ON SCHOOL PROJECTS. WELL, YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT. WELL, AND I WILL TELL YOU, WHEN WE WENT AND INTERVIEWED AT GAME TIME, THE PARKS DIRECTOR. PULLED US ASIDE AND SAID, HEY, ARE ARE YOU GUYS LOOKING AT USING BALDWIN SHELL? AND WE SAID, YEAH. AND THEY SAID, GOOD MOVE. WE CANNOT RECOMMEND THEM ENOUGH BECAUSE THEY HAD NOT USED BALDWIN SHELL, BUT THEY SAID THAT THEY WERE VERY HAPPY WITH THEIR PROJECTS, ALL THEIR PROJECTS THAT THEY, THAT THEY HAD DONE WITH THEM. SO I THINK WE'VE GOT A GREAT TEAM IN PLACE. WE PUT OUT RFQS. WE GOT A BIG RESPONSE BACK. WE HAD THEM INDEPENDENTLY, INDEPENDENTLY SCORED, AND THEY THEY CERTAINLY CAME OUT ON TOP.

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THEY HAVE BEEN NOTHING BUT PROFESSIONAL AND HAVE DONE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK FOR US. I HAVE TO ADMIT, I THINK. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU GUYS A MINUTE ON PAGE FOUR OF THE ORDINANCE. WHEN MR. KYLE WADE MADE THAT QUESTION A WHILE AGO AND THE ATTORNEY RESPONDED, DIDN'T WANT TO DO SHELL AND HAD TO MAY I UNDERSTOOD. I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU SAID FOR SURE. AND THEN I REALIZED WHAT HE WAS SAYING UNDER QUESTION TWO, ABOUT FIVE LINES DOWN, IT SAYS STARTING ON LEFT SIDE, CERTAIN PARK SYSTEMS IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH MAY INCLUDE A MULTI-PURPOSE EVENT CENTER, SPORTS WHERE IT STARTS LISTING EVERYTHING. SEE WHERE I AM. YES.

OKAY, I GUESS. I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO PUT SHELL IN THERE EITHER, BUT BY SAYING WHICH MAY INCLUDE SAYS TO ME, MAYBE AS A VOTER, IF I WAS A SKEPTIC AND DIDN'T TRUST ALL THIS, THAT, WELL, WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO THIS AND THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT I REALLY WANTED, LIKE THE VOLLEYBALL STUFF. WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT. IT ALLOWS ME TO EXCLUDE IT. BUT IF WE JUST SAY, WHICH INCLUDES AND TAKE THE MAY OUT COMPLETELY, THEN IT SAYS, THESE ARE THE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THIS DOESN'T SAY SHELL. IT LETS IT, YOU KNOW, DOES THAT GIVE US AN OUT. SO I'M FROM THE OTHER SIDE OVER HERE I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S WHY I'M THAT'S WHY I TOLD HIM I'VE BEEN WITH THE SCHOOL AND WE SAY WE'RE DOING ALL THIS STUFF. AND THEN IF CONSTRUCTION GOES CRAZY, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THEN YOU'RE YOU'RE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, YOU'RE LIKE, Y'ALL SAID Y'ALL WERE DOING THIS AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT. YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S THE FLIP SIDE. IF YOU SAY YOU ARE, THEN THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO. SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING TO THE PUBLIC, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. I DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, THE 33,000 PEOPLE OUT THERE IN SHERWOOD TO SAY THAT DOESN'T SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL THAT. THE INTENT OF THIS SENTENCE IS THAT ALL THE THINGS THAT WE WERE DEMONSTRATING TONIGHT ON OUR SLIDE PRESENTATION SAYS THAT THOSE ARE GOING TO BE DONE. IF YOUR MONEY GOES FAR ENOUGH, THAT'S YOUR INTENT. AND THAT'S PART OF, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART OF THE ELECTION CONTRACT WITH VOTERS IS NOT ONLY WHAT'S ON THIS BALLOT, BUT IT'S WHAT THE PUBLIC PRESENTATION IS, TOO. OKAY. WE HAVE TO BE HELD TO THOSE PRESENTATIONS. AND I THEY CAN TELL YOU IF I DIDN'T SAY IT ONCE, I SAID IT A THOUSAND TIMES. IF WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, WE DELIVER. SO WE MADE SURE THAT LIKE WHEN THIS WAS BROUGHT TO YOU, THAT WE HAD DONE A LOT OF RESEARCHING AND SO FORTH. SO YES, WE ARE VERY, VERY CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN DELIVER THIS. YES, MA'AM. I HAVE A QUESTION. THIS GOES BACK TO DREW AND CHRIS. SORRY THAT WE'RE BOUNCING AROUND. IT MAY NOT EVEN BE BOTH OF YOU. I KNOW WE HAVE THOSE. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE STATE OF OUR CURRENT ANIMAL SHELTER. CAN YOU SPEAK SPECIFICALLY JUST SO THAT THE PUBLIC KNOWS WHY WE ARE LOOKING AT NOT REMODELING THAT FACILITY, OR BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE WAS ONCE TALKS ABOUT POTENTIALLY USING, YOU KNOW, IN PUBLIC WORKS MOVES, YOU KNOW, EXPANDING BACK INTO THAT AREA. BUT CAN WE JUST TALK SO THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THE ISSUES WITH THE LAND, THE BUILDING, THE AREA, AND WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT BUILDING A WHOLE BRAND NEW. NOW, MIND YOU, I'M ALL FOR A BRAND NEW BUILDING. SO I HAVE A FEW PICTURES. I JUST WANTED TO TRY TO OPEN UP. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE BEING VERY TRANSPARENT AS THE STATE, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME OTHER CONVERSATIONS, COMMENTS ABOUT THAT. SORRY. WE'LL GET THERE. BUT WHILE THIS IS OPENING UP, SO THE EXISTING BUILDING, I'M SURE YOU ALL HAVE BEEN THERE BEFORE, BUT IT WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT FOR A COMMUNITY THAT WAS MUCH, MUCH SMALLER THAN WHAT YOU HAVE NOW. SO THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY THERE ARE SO FEW KENNELS AVAILABLE. AS YOUR COMMUNITY GREW, SO TOO DID THAT BUILDING, BUT IT DIDN'T GROW IN A VERY WELL PLANNED WAY. IT WAS WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE SPACE.

LET'S JUST ADD A LEAN TO AND THEN. OKAY, WELL, NOW WE NEED MORE SPACE. LET'S FILL IN THAT LEAN TO AND ADD A MECHANICAL SYSTEM. AND IT JUST SORT OF BECAME THIS. YEAH HODGEPODGE IS PROBABLY THE BEST WAY OF SAYING IT. BUT WHAT WAS SORT OF THE OH SHOOT. AND I'M SORRY I CAUGHT YOU OFF GUARD. NO THAT'S FINE, I THOUGHT I HAD THESE IN HERE, BUT I'M SURE YOU DON'T WANT ME TO SEARCH FOR THEM. BUT ESSENTIALLY, IN ADDITION TO IT BEING JUST FUNCTIONALLY NOT A GREAT BUILDING BECAUSE IT WASN'T PLANNED OUT WELL, BECAUSE IT HAS SO MANY DIFFERENT PORTIONS TO IT THAT REALLY DON'T FUNCTION. IT'S NOT BEING VERY WELL MAINTAINED. I MEAN, THERE ARE PARTS OF IT

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IT'S JUST. YEAH. AND SO THAT'S WHY THIS NEW THE NEW AREA WAS A WAS A WAS A BLESSING TO HAVE THAT. AND THIS WILL BE FURTHER AWAY FROM HOMES AND THE WAY THAT IT WAS DESIGNED, IF, YOU KNOW, SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE, SAY, WHEN SHERWOOD'S 60,000, LET'S SAY IT'S MUCH IT WAS DESIGNED SO THAT IT COULD BE EXPANDED. THE OTHER SIDE IS I HAVE MENTIONED WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD A SMALLER SHELTER, AND WE WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO EXPAND. ALSO, I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT THE AREA IN WHICH THEY TAKE THE DOGS OUT IN. THE DIRT IS FILLED WITH PARASITES AND THAT JUST THAT'S JUST KIND OF PART OF IT VERSUS THIS NEW SITE WILL HAVE FOR THE DOG AREA ASTROTURF, WHICH CAN THEN BE SANITIZED AND CLEANED. THAT'S HOW THEY THEY DO IT. NOW, YOU DON'T JUST TAKE THEM OUT THERE AND THEY RELIEVE THEMSELVES. AND SOMETIMES THEY HAVE ALL SORTS OF THINGS WITH THAT PARVO AND SO FORTH. AND SO PART OF THE REASON OF US WANTING TO GO AHEAD AND GET THIS THROUGH TONIGHT IS BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT, ONCE AGAIN, THE VOTERS WILL BE ULTIMATELY DECIDING THESE IDEAS CAME ABOUT THROUGH YOU GUYS. AND BUT THERE'S GOING TO NEED TO BE A LOT OF WORK THAT WILL NEED TO START TAKING PLACE IN TERMS OF FUNDRAISING FOR THIS, GOING OUT AND EDUCATING THE GENERAL PUBLIC, DOING TOWN HALL MEETINGS. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT CREATING A QR CODE IN.

THEY COULD GET THAT MAILED OUT TO WHERE PEOPLE COULD TAKE VIRTUAL TOURS OF FACILITIES AND SO FORTH. AND, YOU KNOW, EVEN BEING ABLE TO DEVELOP EVEN MORE PICTURES AND SO FORTH FOR PEOPLE SO THAT THEY'VE GOT IT A REALLY GOOD IDEA AS TO WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. AND WE WANT TO HAVE THE

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HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE LANGUAGE, OR DO YOU FEEL THAT BY THE PRESENTATION THAT THAT COMMITS US? WELL, YOU'RE NOT COMMITTED TO ANYTHING AT THIS POINT? NO, NO, NO, I MEAN, AFTER THE COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS HAD ASKED ABOUT AMENDING THE LANGUAGE, BUT YOU SAID THAT WE'RE ALSO HELD TO WHAT WE TELL THE PUBLIC. YES, YOU ARE. SO I MEAN, IF THAT HELPS SATISFY YOUR CONCERN THERE, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING OUT AND SELLING THE PUBLIC WITH, THEN THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF OBLIGATED TO DO, YOU KNOW, WITHIN REASON IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT WITH THIS MONEY. I MEAN, YOU CAN'T CHANGE IN PUNCH LIST AND THESE ARE THE WAY YOU COULDN'T CHANGE AND DO SOME OTHER KIND OF PROJECT. YOU THAT WASN'T DESCRIBED HERE THAT YOU NEVER TALKED ABOUT OR. AND ACCORDING TO THE INFORMATION HERE, THIS HAS THIS NOVEMBER ELECTION HAS TO BE 70 DAYS BEFORE THAT. SO SOMETIME IN SEPTEMBER. THAT'S RIGHT. AND THIS IS JUNE. BUT THEN WE ALSO NEED, AS I SAID, THERE THERE NEEDS TO BE MARKETING. WELL YOU'VE GOT TO START RAISING MONEY BECAUSE WE CANNOT BE THE ONES WE THE CITY CANNOT SPEND ANY MONEY. SO. SO BESIDES US DECIDING ON THIS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND MONEY TO HOLD A SPECIAL ELECTION. IT'S IN THE BUDGET. NO, I'M SORRY, THIS IS NOT A SPECIAL ELECTION. THIS IS ON TH.

THIS IS A YOU CAN'T DO SPECIAL ELECTIONS ANYMORE. SO THIS IS DURING THE REGULAR NOVEMBER ELECTION. IT IS TECHNICALLY A SPECIAL ELECTION, BUT IT'S. YOU DON'T HAVE TO FUND IT'S THERE'S A REGULAR ELECTION ON THAT DATE. SO YOU'RE NOW LIMITED TO TWICE A YEAR WHEN YOU CAN DO THIS.

THEY'VE CHANGED THAT AT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY. SO. RIGHT. SO THERE'S SOME OTHER ELECTION THAT SCHOOL BOARD. SCHOOL BOARD OKAY. THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. I'D SAY THAT'S THE 18TH. I MEAN, I JUST HATE THAT I UNDERSTAND THE REASONING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I HATE AGAIN TO GO READ IT THREE TIMES SOMETHING LIKE THIS WITHOUT HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY. ONCE THEY'VE HEARD ALL OF OUR DISCUSSIONS, AND THERE'S A LOT FIRST TIME FOR THEM, A LOT TO SEE ONE, I MEAN, JUST MY OPINION, BUT I THINK IT'S NOT YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE TIMING, BUT ALSO THE TIMING IS, YOU KNOW, SELF-INFLICTED IN A WAY. WELL, I HAVE A I HAVE A DUMB QUESTION. WILL YOU HELP US UNDERSTAND? AND FOR THE VIEWERS TOO, IF THEY SAY NO, THEY DO NOT WANT THIS, WILL THE SHERWOOD SALES TAX GO DOWN BY 1%? NO, MA'AM. SO THE VOTERS ARE NOT DECREASING THERE. NO. THE EXISTING BONDS WOULD STAY OUTSTANDING IN THAT THREE QUARTER PERCENT TAX WOULD STAY ON THE BOOKS. YES. OKAY. AND IT'S THREE QUARTERS OF $0.01, THREE QUARTERS OF $0.01. THAT'S RIGHT. DOES DOES THE THREE QUARTERS PERCENT. THAT'S ON THE THAT'S ON THE 2018 AND 2023 BONDS. YES. DO THEY DOES THAT SUNSET THE WAY IT WAS BACK THEN.

IT WOULD IF THOSE BONDS EVENTUALLY PAID OFF IT WOULD SUNSET. OKAY. SO THERE'S NOT A SPECIFIC DATE. IT'S JUST WHEN THEY'RE PAID. SO IF THAT'S REPLACED AND THAT GETS DONE, IS THERE A SUNSET CLAUSE FOR SAME THING HERE. WHEN THESE BONDS ARE PAID OFF IT WOULD IT WOULD GO AWAY. AND ONE OF THE, THE GREAT THINGS WHICH THIS YOU KNOW, WAS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BROUGHT UP IN THE WORKSHOP IS THE FACT THAT BY HAVING THINGS THAT HELP TO GENERATE SALES TAX REVENUE, THEN IT JUST PAYS OFF THAT MUCH FASTER VERSUS JUST DOING SOMETHING THAT YOU PUT THE MONEY INTO. AND THERE'S NO DIVIDEND TO IT AT ALL. IT DOESN'T GROW YOUR ECONOMY. THAT WAS WHAT THAT WAS.

SOME OF THE COMMENTS I RECEIVED FROM SOME OF THE PATRONS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT, YOU KNOW, I HOPE SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND $80 MILLION ON ARE GOING TO GENERATE REVENUE FOR THE CITY. AND OBVIOUSLY, HAVING PEOPLE IN THE TOWN REVENUE, THE HAMBURGER TAX, THE DIFFERENT THINGS, HOTELS. SO, ABSOLUTELY. SO WE ENACTED THIS IN 2018, THE FIRST ONE. SO WE'RE ESSENTIALLY SEVEN YEARS AND WE'VE ALMOST PAID OFF ALL BUT ROUGHLY 4 MILLION ISH. THAT'S KIND OF IT'S A LITTLE MORE THAN THAT RIGHT NOW. BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT IT'LL BE AT THE TIME.

YEAH. THE WAY THIS PARTICULAR TAX WORKS, IT CAN ONLY BE USED TO PAY DEBT SERVICE. SO JUST LIKE MICHAEL EXPLAINED A WHILE AGO, IF THERE'S MORE THAN NEEDED FOR SCHEDULED DEBT SERVICE, IT PAYS OFF. THE LONG END BONDS, THE HIGHER INTEREST BONDS FIRST. AND SO, YOU KNOW, YOU START

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[16. An ordinance calling and setting a date for a special election on the questions of the issuance by the City of sales and use tax refunding bonds and sales and use tax capital improvement bonds for various purposes; levying a replacement local sales and use tax at the rate of three quarters of one percent (0.75%) for the purpose of retiring such bonds; and prescribing other matters pertaining thereto. (Mayor Heye-Townsell)]

WADE. NO MCCULLOUGH. I TREAT I TOWNSEND I BRODERICK WILLIAMS I THOMAS BROOKS I AN ORDINANCE CALLING AND SETTING A DATE FOR A SPECIAL ELECTION ON THE QUESTIONS OF THE ISSUANCE BY THE CITY OF SALES AND USE TAX, REFUNDING BONDS AND SALES AND USE TAX CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BONDS FOR VARIOUS PURPOSES, LEVYING A REPLACEMENT LOCAL SALES AND USE TAX AT THE RATE OF THREE QUARTERS OF 1% FOR THE PURPOSE OF RETIRING SUCH BONDS AND PRESCRIBING OTHER MATTERS PERTAINING THERETO. THIS IS THE THIRD READING FOR THE ADOPTION. SECOND MOTION FOR ADOPTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BRODERICK AND SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS. ROLL CALL, PLEASE, WADE I MCCULLOUGH, I TRADE I TOWNSEND I BRODERICK I WILLIAMS I THOMAS BROOKS I THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY OKAY AND NOW LET THE WORK BEGIN. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. LAST ITEM ON THE

[17. A resolution authorizing the retention of architectural and construction services for anticipated projects in the City of Sherwood, Arkansas (Mayor Heye-Townsell)]

UNTIL WE GET STARTED. YES. SO WHEN DO WE WHEN DO YOU NEED FROM US MOVE FOR ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION. SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BROOKS AND SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. ROLL CALL, PLEASE. WADE MCCULLOUGH I TREE I TOWNSEND I BRODERICK ABSTAIN WILLIAMS I THOMAS BROOKS I MOTION PASSES SEVEN YES ONE ABSTAIN. GOOD EVENING. ANY OLD BUSINESS WANT TO BE DISCUSSED BY THE COUNCIL. AND THIS HAS BEEN A LONG MEETING. ANY NEW BUSINESS. WE HAVE SEVERAL ANNOUNCEMENTS.

[20.Announcernent(s)]

ON JUNE 26TH, WE HAVE A FREE CONCERT IN THE CITY HALL PARK WITH CLIFF AND SUSAN AT 7 P.M. I KNOW THAT HEATHER JENKINS WAS ON THE NEWS TALKING ABOUT IT AT NOON. WE'VE GOT ON JULY 1ST, THE SENIOR CITIZEN LUNCHEON AT 1130, JULY 3RD, FIREWORKS AND FOOD TRUCKS AT THE GREENS AT NORTH HILLS. IT OPENS AT 6 P.M. THIS IS ALWAYS AN INCREDIBLE EVENT. A&P PAYS FOR THE FIREWORKS SHOW, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE VERY BEST YET. AND IF Y'ALL SAW LAST YEAR, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT COULD GET MUCH BETTER THAN THAT, BUT THEY SAY IT WILL. ALSO, THEY HAVE THE COPS BALCONY BLAST, WHICH IS A FUNDRAISER FOR THE COMMUNITY POLICING PROGRAM AT 6 P.M. TICKETS ARE $24 FOR ADULTS AND $10 FOR KIDS, AND YOU CAN PURCHASE THOSE TICKETS ONLINE JULY 4TH. REMEMBER, THAT IS OUR

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WE'VE GOT ANOTHER MOVIE NIGHT AT THORNHILL. AND NO, IT'S NOT RUDY. IT IS THE SANDLOT. SORRY.

I RECEIVED MANY TEXT MESSAGES FROM A CERTAIN RESIDENT ABOUT RUDY, AND ON JULY 19TH, WE HAVE THE FIRST RESPONDERS AND MILITARY APPRECIATION DAY AT THE SHERWOOD POOLS. FREE ENTRY FOR ALL FIRST RESPONDERS AND ACTIVE MILITARY PERSONNEL WITH VALID IDS. IS THERE A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT? SO MOVED MOTION TO ADJOURN BY COUNCIL MEMBER BROOKS. IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY COUNCIL? MEMBER

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.