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WELL, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, SO WE CAN CONTINUE ON.
SO WE WILL NOW CALL THE MEETING CALL TO ORDER THE MEETING OF, UH, OCTOBER 16TH OF THE SHERWOOD STREET COMMITTEE.
UH, MS. BELINDA, WOULD YOU DO A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? KYLE WADE.
SO WE HAVE THREE OUT FIVE PRESENT FOR QUORUM.
UH, HAVE BEFORE YOU THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST TIME WE WERE ABLE TO MEET, WHICH WAS IN APRIL, UH, APRIL THE 10TH.
UH, IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK OVER THOSE OR ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING ABOUT THOSE, IF NOT, IF WE COULD GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS WRITTEN.
THOSE PASS SHOULD HAVE ALSO IN FRONT OF YOU, THE BUDGET, UH, LAY OUT THERE FOR A REVIEW.
I DID NOT SEE, UH, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING OF CONCERN OR ANYTHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY.
DOES ANYONE ELSE, UH, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING ON THAT? OKAY.
IF NOT, WE WILL MOVE ALONG AND WE WILL GET A PUBLIC WORKS UPDATE NOW LINE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S YOU OR IF THAT'D BE SCOTT.
SCOTT, YOU WANNA GIVE US AN UPDATE? UM, I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING RIGHT NOW ON AN UPDATE FOR PUBLIC COURTS.
WE GOT, WE GOT IN OUR PACKET, OF COURSE, THE, UH, UH, THE SUPERINTENDENT'S REPORT THAT'S GOT THE, UH, WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE.
ANYWAY, UH, DITCHES AND TRASH, UH, SANITATION.
I DON'T SEE ANY, DIDN'T SEE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT OR ANYTHING OUTTA THE ORDINARY EITHER.
I KNOW THE QUESTION WILL BE COMING AND I CAN'T REMEMBER, WHEN DOES THE LEAF TRUCK START? THAT WILL BE THE 3RD OF NOVEMBER.
NOVEMBER 3RD, JUST A COUPLE WEEKS AWAY.
UH, IF WE GET INTO THE, WELL, IT'S KIND OF ALREADY COVERED.
THERE ARE STREET UPDATES WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS UPDATES.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING, UH, SPECIFIC TO THE STREETS.
WE PROBABLY CAN JUST COMBINE THAT IF THERE'S ANYTHING LINE AND JUST GO STRAIGHT INTO THE SALES TAX PROJECTION UPDATES ON THOSE PROJECTS.
UH, EVERYTHING WITH JACKSON OKAY.
UH, WE'VE HAD A DELAY WITH THE, UH, CONCRETE, UH, SUBCONTRACTOR.
UH, THEY PICKED IT UP IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS AND ARE MAKING PROGRESS.
UH, THE NORTH SIDES OF THE ROUNDABOUTS HAVE BEEN PAVED AND THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO PUT IN THE, UH, SEPARATOR ISLANDS AROUND THE ROUNDABOUT ON THE NORTH SIDE.
SO THEY, NEXT WEEK WE'RE GONNA BE, UH, DIVERTING THE TRAFFIC.
AFTER WE DO THAT, WE'RE GONNA FINISH THE INSIDES OF THE ROUNDABOUTS AND WE'LL BE FINISHING BOX STOPS AND HING MORE.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING RIGHT ALONG.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY, OUR, UH, ANTICIPATED END DATE HAS BEEN SLIPPING TILL JANUARY.
UH, JACKSON VOLCANO PHASE TWO IS COMING RIGHT ALONG.
THE WATER DEPARTMENT HAS, UH, BEGUN TESTING THEIR WATER LINES AND FLUSHING.
UH, GAS LINES HAVE BEEN RELOCATED.
99% OF THE COMMUNICATIONS HAVE BEEN RELOCATED, SO WE'RE LOOKING REALLY GOOD THERE.
UH, UH, PHASE TWO, UH, WILL BE ADVERTISED A BIT.
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IS THE LATEST I GET FROM GARBER.HERE'S AN UPDATE THAT WE DON'T HAVE PRINTED OUT HERE.
WE REMOVED A TREE FROM HEMPHILL AND CALLOWAY.
WE COMPROMISED THE TREE WHEN, UH, WE DID THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION.
SO WE AGREED TO TAKE DOWN THE TREE BECAUSE WE KILLED IT.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT SEVERAL PICTURES HERE, JUST PROGRESS.
UH, ONE OF THEM WITH, UH, THE MCKINNEY DRIVEWAY.
UH, HE REQUESTED A, UH, LARGER COMMERCIAL DRIVEWAY AND HE PAID THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR, OUR DRIVEWAY AND THE COMMERCIAL DRIVEWAY.
SO THAT WAS GOOD FOR YOU FOR THAT.
THAT'S BASICALLY ALL WE GOT RIGHT NOW.
SO WHEN THE BIDS GO OUT ON, ON PHASE TWO, YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY HERE IN 10 DAYS OR SO, UH, THEY HAVE TO REQUEST PERMISSION FROM THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT TO ADVERTISE.
SO REALISTICALLY, YOU KNOW, STARTING ON THAT, BESIDES WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE, BE SEVERAL MONTHS OUT STILL, OR, UH, I MEAN, I GOT WEATHER AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
YOU GOTTA ADVERTISE IT FOR BID, THEN THERE'S PROBABLY BE ABOUT A 30 DAY, UH, BID PROCESS.
WE'LL OPEN THE BID AFTER THAT.
UH, THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT HAS TO CONCUR WITH THE LOWEST BID AND AFTER THAT IT SHOULD BE TALK THEM PRETTY MUCH JANUARY WE'LL BE YEAH.
SO WE'RE REAL CLOSE TO FINISHING ONE AND READY TO START COMPLETELY ON THE NEXT PHASE.
IT LOOKS LIKE HOPEFULLY THEREABOUTS.
ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT? OKAY.
ANY OTHER OLD BUSINESS THAT WE DIDN'T, UH, HAVE DOWN? I DON'T KNOW OF ANYTHING WITH NEW BUSINESS.
LON, I'LL GIVE IT BACK TO YOU ON, UH, TEMPORARY SIGNS.
UH, WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING A PROBLEM WITH, UH, MAINLY SANITATION DEPARTMENT RENTING THIS, BUT WE'VE HAD IT BEFORE WHERE, WHEN WE'RE BUILDING OUT A, A NEW STREET IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, ALL THE CONTRACTORS, UH, AND SUBCONTRACTORS HAVE TO BRING IN, UH, 15 TRUCKS A PIECE, AND THEY PARK ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD.
AND YOU CAN'T GET A SANITATION TRUCK, TRASH TRUCK DOWN THE STREET.
AND, UH, THAT ALSO INCLUDES AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE THAT WE EVER NEEDED ONE.
AND WE'RE JUST LUCKY THAT ONE OF THE GUYS ON THE CONSTRUCTION CREW OF THESE HOUSES HAS A, LIKE CUT OFF A FINGER OR SOMETHING AND NEEDED EMERGENCY ATTENTION.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING, UH, SOMEHOW PUTTING UP TEMPORARY SIGNS AND SCOTT
AND, UH, THE PICTURES THAT WE SHOW HERE, YOU CAN SEE THIS RED FORD F-150, HE'S, UH, WELL OUTSIDE THE 18 INCHES THAT HE'S ALLOWED TO MM-HMM
THAT'S THE LOG YOU NEED TO PARK 18 INCHES TOWARD THE CURB.
UH, THE NEXT PICTURE I'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT TWO OR THREE CARS FRONT.
YOU NAVIGATE, UH, IN BETWEEN ALL THE OTHER CARS.
THEN THE NEXT PICTURE, THEY, UH, MET HEAD ON RIGHT THERE AND, UH, THEY DECIDE WHO'S GONNA TAKE THE RIGHT OF WAY.
SO WILL THESE BE, UH, LIKE A, UH, WORD SLIPPED MY MIND? LIKE A, UH, IT'D BE BASICALLY LIKE A TEMPORARY STOP SIGN YOU'LL HAVE ON A BUCKET OR WITH A POLE ON IT.
SITS SITTING THERE NEXT TO THE CURB OR WHATEVER, THEY SHOULD BE VISIBLE.
NOT IN THE ROAD, BUT ON THE SIDE.
UH, BUT WE FELT THAT, UH, WE PROBABLY HAD TO BRING UP TO STREET COMMITTEE TO GET A BLESSING ON THAT FOR A TEMPORARY SOLUTION BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO HAPPEN EVERY TIME A NEW STREET GOES THROUGH.
SO ARE Y'ALL THINKING THIS WILL BE OBVIOUSLY IN A, LIKE WHERE THESE PICTURES TAKEN, IT'S LIKE THERE'S PLACED SEVERAL CONSTRUCTION JOBS GOING ON AT ONCE.
WILL THIS BE EVEN IF IT'S JUST A SINGLE HOME? NO, NO.
IT'S JUST A, FOR A NEW STREET BUILD OUT APPARENTLY.
YOU KNOW, ALL THE CONTRACTORS GET THEIR LOCKED AND THEY ALL SHOW UP AT THE SAME TIME.
CAN I SAY SOMETHING? ABSOLUTELY.
AND WE COULD PROBABLY DO JUST LIKE ONE SIDE OF THE STREET FOR THE NO PARKING WHERE THEY CAN STILL PARK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET AND HAVE ROOM TO STILL WORK AT THEIR SITE, BUT THEY'LL BE RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, JUST ONE SIDE BLOCKED.
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AND THEY CAN ALSO PARK ON THE, THE, UH, FRONT YARD OF THE HOUSE THAT THEY'RE WORKING AT, AS LONG AS THEY'RE OUT OF THE STREET.SO LIKE WHAT, WHAT WOULD THE CRITERIA BE TO SAY, OKAY, THIS IS ENOUGH.
LIKE WE NEED TO REMOVE THESE SIGNS? I THINK IF WE GET ONE SIDE OF THE STREET BUILT OUT, YEAH.
WE COMPLETELY BUILT OUT AND THERE'S NOT GONNA BE COMPETING ON BOTH SIDES.
IT'D BE THAT CRITERIA TO LIFT THE SIGNS.
SO IT'S JUST GONNA BE A NOTHING SET IN STONE JUST GONNA BE A JUDGMENT CALL BY THE STREET DEPARTMENT WHEN, WHEN THINGS LOOK LIKE THEY'VE RIGHT.
IT'S SANITATION REPORTS THAT THEY CAN GET DOWN THERE AND FIX STUFF UP.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY WELL BUILT OUT THAT WE CAN LOOK THE SIDE OF, THERE'S ONLY NO TRUCKS.
I MEAN, A SANITATION TRUCK, OUR GARBAGE TRUCKS ARE BIG.
AND THERE'S TIMES WHERE THEY HAVE TO BACK UP TOO FAR AND THEN THEY HAVE TO GO BUY THEIR VEHICLES AND THERE'S A CHANCE OF HITTING THE VEHICLE.
I, I, YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY I DON'T, I DON'T SEE ANY, ANY ISSUES WITH IT, YOU KNOW, NOT BEING DONE THAT WAY.
UH, I THINK THAT'S A PROBABLY THE BEST TEMPORARY SOLUTION PROBABLY ANYBODY COULD COME UP WITH.
'CAUSE I KNOW I PERSONALLY HAVE DRIVEN THROUGH SOME AREAS LIKE THAT AND IT, IT IS LIKE A MAZE SOMETIMES TRYING TO GET THROUGH THERE IN A REGULARIZED VEHICLE.
MUCH LESS SOMETHING BIG, UH, OF THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND LON MIGHT AGREE ON THIS, IS MAYBE LETTING THE CONTRACTORS KNOW TOO, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS.
YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, PRIOR, BEFORE WE JUST GO DOWN THERE AND, YOU KNOW, STOP A WHOLE STREET.
YOU KNOW, I THINK, UH, VALLEY OAK IS GETTING PRETTY WELL BUILT OUT.
WE MIGHT NOT START ON VALLEY OAK, BUT THE NEXT STREET THAT, THAT COMES UP, BECAUSE MR. DEERE IS, UH, CLEARING LOCKS RIGHT NOW, GETTING READY FOR THE NEXT PHASE.
UH, I GUESS YOU'LL JUST USE JUDGMENT.
I, I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT IF YOU HAVE A, UH, A CROSS STREET OR A T STREET COMING INTO IT, EVERYBODY'S JUST GONNA MOVE, START PARKING AS EVERYBODY WANTS TO GET AS CLOSE AS THEY CAN.
SO I, I GUESS IT'S JUST GONNA BE A JUDGMENT CALL AS TO WHERE, HOW FAR YOU SET SIGNS UP AS FAR AS WHAT THEY'RE COMPLYING TO OR NOT.
SO WOULD THESE BE GUIDED SIGNS OR REGULATORY SIGNS? AND WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? I'D HAVE TO REFER TO, I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? WOULD THESE BE GUIDED SIGNS OR REGULATORY SIGNS? CAN WE BACK IT UP WITH A TICKET? I, I WOULDN'T WRITE A TICKET FIRST.
WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T WARN THEM.
BUT IF IT'S, I MEAN, IF, IF GETTING TRAFFIC FLOODING RIGHT, A TICKET FOR THAT.
IF IT'S A, UH, ARE Y'ALL TALKING ABOUT TAKING THIS FOR AN ORDINANCE? FOR TEMPORARY SIGNAGE? WE WERE HOPING NOT TO DO THAT.
JUST SINCE IT'S GONNA BE TEMPORARY AND NOT HARM.
I'D SUGGEST THAT YOU JUST TRY IT WITHOUT GOING TO COUNCIL ON JUST A TEMPORARY BASIS AND JUST SEE IF IT WORKS.
AND IF THE UNIQUE TEETH AND YOU NEED MORE REGULATORY CONTROL AND, AND PUNITIVE MEASURE, THEN WE, WE'LL GO TO THE COUNCIL.
WELL, THE ANSWER, THE, THE QUICK ANSWER IS WE, WE CAN'T SIDE BECAUSE WE CAN SIDE UNDER, YOU KNOW, IMPEDING THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC OR, YOU KNOW, UM, WE, WE COULD, BUT WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T.
WE WOULD PROBABLY GO IN AND TELL THEM, HEY, YOU GOTTA MOVE THEM ALL TO THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD, OBEY THE SIGNS, AND IF WE CATCH 'EM OUT DOING IT AGAIN, THEN YEAH, WE COULD.
SO I, FOR THAT, IT WOULD BE EI WOULD PREFER IF IT'S GONNA BE, IF, IF THIS BECOMES SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DOING REGULARLY.
'CAUSE THESE ARE THE SAME CREWS WORKING, RIGHT.
THEY'RE GONNA GO, THEY'RE GONNA LEARN A JOB TO ANOTHER JOB, TO ANOTHER JOB.
THEY'RE GONNA SEE 'EM AND THEY'RE GONNA GET USED TO 'EM.
AND IF IT, IF IT'S A CONTINUAL PROBLEM, THEN WE COULD PROBABLY PASS AN ORDINANCE TO WHERE WE COULD, WE COULD SIGN 'EM UNDER A CITY ORDINANCE, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF A STATE STATUTE FOR P THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC, IT'S ABOUT $300.
SO PRETTY WE CAN PUT ON A PERMIT WHEN THEY APPLY TO BUILD A HOUSE THAT SIDE OF THE STREET'S CLOSED OR PARKING.
I THINK I, I AGREE WITH STEVE.
I THINK IF YOU DO IT PER, IF YOU DO IT TEMPORARILY AND WE GO OUT AND WE TALK TO HIM, ESPECIALLY IF Y'ALL TELL 'EM ON THE FRONT END AND WE COME OUT AND REINFORCE THAT, WE PROBABLY WON'T HAVE A PROBLEM.
BECAUSE WHAT IT, WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO IS, IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT HE SAID WHAT AGO, IT'S JUST LAZY.
THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM TO PARK ON ONE SIDE AND THEY JUST WANNA PARK CLOSER.
WE'VE GOT THE OKAY TO GO AHEAD WITH THE TEMPORARY, I MEAN, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO VOTE ON, UH, OR JUST GIVE OUR VOCAL, UH, STEVE, DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION ON THAT OR JUST
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GIVE OUR VOCAL? I MEAN, I THINK IT'S OKAY.AND YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, IT CAN ALWAYS COME BACK IF SOMETHING ELSE NEEDS TO BE DONE SEPARATELY.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? IF NOT, WE'LL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN AND WE'LL CALL THIS.
AND WILL DO, DID THEY, DID THEY REACH OUT TO YOU ABOUT THE BLOCK SIDEWALK? THAT GUY? IT DID.