[* A portion of this meeting is without audio *]
[Street Committee on January 08, 2026.]
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PLEASE. SORRY. WE'RE CHECKING. IT WASN'T. WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU. ALL RIGHT. YOUR BEAUTIFUL VOICE. I DON'T THINK IT WAS ON. I JUST PUSHED IT, AND IT WAS KNOWN. TESTING.
YOU'RE OKAY? ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO SORRY. CAMERON. SO THE PUBLIC WORKS IS GOING GREAT.
YOU KNOW, THE LEAF VACUUM PROGRAM IS RUNNING SMOOTHLY. WE'RE GOING A LITTLE FASTER.
YOU KNOW, THE VOLUMES LIGHTENED UP. WE ASK RESIDENTS TO GET THEIR LEAVES TO THE CURB BY JANUARY 31ST. AND WE'LL MAKE THE FINAL SWEEP ACROSS TOWN AFTER THE 31ST. AS LONG AS THEY'RE OUT, WE WILL GET THEM THE NEW FACILITIES GOING. WELL, WE'VE GOT A MEETING OUT THERE TOMORROW MORNING. THEY'RE PAVING THE PARKING LOT. THINGS ARE COMING ALONG OUT THERE, BUT EVERYTHING'S PRETTY MUCH GOING SMOOTH. GOING AS PLANNED. OKAY, SO JUST WANT TO REEMPHASIZE BECAUSE I KNOW WE ALWAYS GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. THE TRUCK MAY BE RUNNING, BUT ALL ALL THE LEAVES NEED TO BE OUT BY THE 31ST. THAT'S THE LAST DAY TO HAVE THOSE OUT.
THAT'S CORRECT. SO WE'LL MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HEARS. GOOD TO KNOW. OKAY. AND BY THE WAY, I SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS EARLIER. I DIDN'T THINK JOSH WAS UNABLE TO BE HERE THE LAST MEETING I ASSUME. PROBABLY MOST EVERYBODY HERE KNOWS JOSH. JOSH TOOK OVER FOR. YES, BRIAN. BRIAN GALLOWAY CAN THINK OF HIS NAME FOR A SECOND. BACK IN, WHAT, ABOUT AUGUST OR SO? YES. AUGUST.
WELCOME. THANK YOU TO YOUR NEW SPOT AND NEW MEETING AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF. SO APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. HOW ABOUT THE ANYTHING ON THE STREETS AS FAR AS JUST THE STREET UPDATE? I KNOW, I KNOW LATER ON YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT MAYBE SOME OF THE OVERLAY STUFF BUT CORRECT. WE'VE GOT A PRELIMINARY LIST FOR FOR THIS YEAR'S OVERLAY. LAST YEAR WENT REALLY WELL. WE CAME IN UNDER BUDGET. SO WE UTILIZED SOME FUNDS AND WE DID SOME IN-HOUSE WORK AND GOT SOME MORE DONE. BUT OVERALL THAT'S THAT'S GOING REAL WELL. HOPEFULLY THIS YEAR WE WILL HAVE THE THE LOW COST LIKE LAST YEAR AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO MORE. GOT A LITTLE BIT OF GOOD NEWS EARLIER, BUT THAT'S NOT SET IN STONE UNTIL IT GOES OUT TO BID. SO YEAH HOPE HOPE THAT IT STAYS THAT WAY. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. WE'LL GO INTO OUR OLD BUSINESS THEN LONNIE WILL GIVE US THE UPDATE ON THE THE BOND PROJECT. WELL, JACKSONVILLE IS COMING RIGHT ALONG. WE'RE GETTING VERY CLOSE TO THE END OF THIS PART OF THE PROJECT THAT ARE DONE ARE THE 14 FOOT MULTI USE PATH IS COMPLETE. TOTALLY PAVED. THE PEDESTRIAN TUNNELS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND THE RAMPS TO THEM ARE DONE TODAY. YESTERDAY THEY GOT THE FINAL SURFACE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ROAD COMPLETED NORTH SIDE. WE ONLY GOT ABOUT AN EIGHTH OF THE ROAD DONE TODAY. ONLY 1500 FOOT 1500 FOOT. HAVING HAVING A LITTLE TROUBLE WITH THE BATCH PLANT
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OPERATING. AND SO AS SOON AS THEY CAN GET THAT UP AND RUNNING, WE'LL GET OUT THERE AND FINISH THAT. PASS REMAINING FINAL CLEANUP OF THE STORM DRAIN PIPING AND INLET BOXES, SOD AND AND SEEDING THE BARE GROUND AND FINAL INSPECTIONS AND THEN THE COMPLETION OF THE PUNCH LIST ITEM. SO WE'RE WE'RE SEEING THE END OF THE TUNNEL A LOT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL.YOU SEE, WE'RE STILL UNDER BUDGET, BUT WE'VE GOT 1 OR 2 MORE PAYMENTS TO GO. SO THAT'LL BE COMING SOON. PHASE TWO OF THE PROJECT. WE GOT A GARVER FINAL DRAWINGS TODAY OR TUESDAY AND A PROBABLE COST ESTIMATE, AS YOU SEE LISTED THERE, $11 MILLION SUMMIT IS AT THE HORSE FARM. THEY'RE GEARED UP READY TO GO ACROSS. FIRST ELECTRIC IS WORKING ON THEIR RELOCATIONS.
AT&T HAS MADE IT TO THE HORSE FARM. AND AS SOON AS WE GET A TEMPORARY FENCE PUT IN, THEY CAN START BECAUSE WE HAVE TO CORRAL THE HORSES BEFORE THEY CAN GET IN THERE. THAT'S ABOUT IT. OKAY, I, I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE EVERYBODY LIVES, BUT YOU MAY NOT BE A PLACE YOU NORMALLY TRAVEL. I DON'T TRAVEL THAT WAY ALL THE TIME. I TRY TO GET OUT THERE OCCASIONALLY AND HAD NOT GOTTEN TO HERE, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THE HOLIDAYS AND STUFF. BUT I DID GET OUT THERE TODAY. IT LOOKS REALLY GOOD. LOOKS GOOD. YEAH. WE'RE OUT THERE WORKING ON THIS ON THE. I GUESS IT'D BE THE WEST SIDE SIDEWALKS OVER THERE AND EVERYTHING, BUT IT'S LOOKING REALLY GOOD. SO IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO GO OUT THERE AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, THAT'D BE THAT'D BE GOOD. STAY ON.
STAY ON TOP OF THAT. YEAH OKAY. OKAY. NOW NEW BUSINESS. MAYOR, YOU HAD SOMETHING ABOUT THE SPEED LIMIT ON ON 107 FROM KELLOGG TO GRAVEL RIDGE. YES. SO THERE THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT ON BROCKINGTON AND 107 THAT CAUSED ONE OR MORE PEOPLE IN THE ACCIDENT TO HAVE TO GO TO THE ICU. THE CLOSE FRIEND OF THE MOTHER OF THIS YOUNG MAN PUT IN A REQUEST TO ARDOT FOR A SPEED STUDY, AS WELL AS WELL AS TO EVALUATE IT IN TERMS OF SAFETY AND SO FORTH. THIS ACTUALLY WAS ON THE CHANNEL SEVEN, I BELIEVE, THIS WEEK. SO ARDOT, THE ONLY PART THAT I'VE GOTTEN BACK IS IN IN TERMS OF COMMENTS FROM ARDOT, I WAS CONTACTED BY ARDOT ABOUT THIS.
THIS WAS ACTUALLY THE FIRST THAT I FOUND OUT ABOUT IT, AND THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, 55 IS, YOU KNOW, ON THE HIGH SIDE, ESPECIALLY GOING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, KIND OF INTERIOR INTO A CITY. AND CERTAINLY THAT WAS SET BEFORE WE HAD ALL THE DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, DOWN 107 BETWEEN KELLOGG AND BROCKINGTON, OF ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND SO FORTH. AND IT'S VERY CONFUSING THE WAY THE SPEED LIMITS CHANGE AND SO FORTH. AND SO ANYWAY, THEY CAME BACK AND THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU THINK IN TERMS OF LOWERING IT? WE THINK IT COULD BE LOWERED WOULD BE ADVISABLE. AND SO I SAID, LET ME REACH OUT TO OUR CHIEF BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE MY GO TO ON GETTING ADVICE ON THIS. AND SO I DID. AND WE SAT DOWN AND WE DISCUSSED IT AND AGREED THAT IT IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE CONSISTENT. SO, YOU KNOW, IT GOES AT WHEN YOU BETWEEN LIKE MARYLAND AND KELLOGG. IS THAT RIGHT CHIEF. IT'S 45 AND THEN JUMPS UP TO 55 AND THEN IT JUMPS BACK DOWN. AND IT JUST SO WE FELT LIKE IT JUST NEEDS TO BE CONSISTENT. 55 IS AWFUL FAST TO BE DRIVING THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF A CITY. AND SO AND OF COURSE HIGHER THE HIGHER THE SPEEDS ARE, THE WORSE THE ACCIDENTS POTENTIALLY ARE GOING TO BE. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION THEN I REACHED BACK OUT TO ARDOT AND SAID, YOU KNOW, CHIEF AND I TALKED AND WE THINK WE WERE THINKING 45 AND THEY SAID THAT'S WHAT WE THINK AS WELL. SO THEY SAID, WE'RE RECOMMENDING 45. CHIEF IS RECOMMENDING 45. AND SO I'M WITH THOSE TWO. SO WOULD ALSO
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SAY FROM THE ADMINISTRATION STANDPOINT OVERALL, I THINK IT WOULD BE EASIER IF IT'S CONSISTENTLY 45. THAT WILL INVOLVE SOME SIGNAGE CHANGE. ALSO, CHIEF KIND OF TALKED TO ME ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE USED TO GOING A CERTAIN SPEED. AND IF CHIEF, YOU WANT TO KIND OF EXPLAIN HOW THE POLICING PROCESS IS WITH THAT, I DON'T WANT TO LIKE, SPEAK FOR YOU. YEAH. SO THE WAY THAT THAT WOULD KIND OF LOOK, IF WE DO CHANGE THAT, THAT SPEED LIMIT, THE WAY THAT WOULD LOOK IS WE WOULD PUSH THAT OUT OBVIOUSLY IN SOCIAL MEDIA AND THE SIGNAGE WOULD BE UP THERE AND, AND WE WOULD ENFORCE THAT KIND OF STEP THAT IN, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD WE WOULD GIVE PEOPLE WARNINGS FOR A WHILE AND KIND OF GET THEM ADJUSTED TO THAT SPEED LIMIT CHANGE. AND JUST SEEING THE BLUE LIGHTS OUT THERE, PEOPLE WILL PAY MORE ATTENTION TO THAT AND HOPEFULLY THEY'LL NOTICE THE THE SPEED LIMIT CHANGE. BUT THAT'S THAT'S TYPICALLY THE WAY WE DO WHEN WE WHEN WE DROP A SPEED LIMIT SOMEWHERE IS THAT WE GIVE THEM A GRACE PERIOD THERE BEFORE WE START WRITING HARD COPY TICKETS TO TRY TO GIVE THEM TIME TO ADJUST TO THAT. SO OKAY. AND SO I FELT LIKE. I, I WOULD REALLY I MEAN, YOU GUYS ARE ADVISORY TO US AND THIS IS A STREET ISSUE. AND SO I REALLY WANTED TO GET Y'ALL'S, YOU KNOW, FEEDBACK ON THIS. THIS IS NOT CERTAINLY THIS IS LIKE A DISCUSSION ITEM ON CITY COUNCIL. BUT THIS IS NOT LIKE AN ORDINANCE OR A RESOLUTION OR ANYTHING IN TERMS OF THAT, I JUST WOULD FEEL MUCH I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IF, YOU KNOW, THIS IS MORE THAN JUST ME SAYING, WELL, THIS IS WHAT ARDOT SAYS AND THIS IS WHAT THE CHIEF SAYS, SO LIVE WITH IT.YOU KNOW, TYPE OF A THING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE KIND OF THAT REPRESENTATIVE BODY OF BOTH COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY. SO, MAYOR, LET ME ASK YOU WHAT. AND IT MAY HAVE BEEN SOMETHING I EITHER SAW ON THAT NEWSCAST OR OR SOMETHING I READ, BUT THERE WAS SEVERAL OTHER MAYBE NOT ALTERNATIVES, BUT OTHER THINGS THAT WAS TOSSED AROUND. HOW DOES THAT END UP? IS IT THE FINAL SAY WITH LIKE THE LIKE THE CAUTION STRIPS OR THERE'S PROBABLY A RUMBLE STRIPS? YEAH, YEAH. SO THIS IS A STATE HIGHWAY. WE DO NOT HAVE JURISDICTION OVER THINGS YOU KNOW, SUCH AS THAT. SO THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, IF THERE'S FURTHER RECOMMENDATIONS THEY WILL THEN COME DOWN, YOU KNOW FROM FROM ARDOT. IN TERMS OF THAT SO FAR, THIS IS THE ONLY THING THAT THEY'VE REALLY RECOMMENDED. IN TERMS OF THAT, I COULD SEE IT BEING REASONABLE TO PUT WHEN YOU ARE GOING NORTH TO MAYBE HAVE A SIGNAGE THAT SAYS STOPLIGHT AHEAD OR I DON'T JOSH CAN SPEAK TO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL THE DIFFERENT SIGNS, BUT SOMETHING KIND OF, HEY, SIGNALING. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT PUTTING RUMBLE STRIPS. YOU TYPICALLY DON'T PUT RUMBLE STRIPS GOING INTO A LIGHT. GO AHEAD. JOSH. WELL, IT WAS MENTIONED THE FLASHING BEACONS AND THAT THAT CAN EASILY BE DONE, YOU KNOW, TO TO WARN THAT THERE'S A SIGNAL AHEAD. THE THING IS WITH THE RUMBLE STRIPS IS PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, EACH IN INCLEMENT WEATHER, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE PLOWING, THOSE PROBABLY WOULD NOT LAST VERY LONG. IT'S IN A CURVE ON A HILL.
SO THAT AREA RIGHT THERE IS IS A TROUBLE AREA. YOU KNOW WHEN WE HAVE INCLEMENT WEATHER. SO THE FLASHING BEACONS TO NOTIFY, YOU KNOW, ADVANCE WARNING, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE LOOKED INTO AS WELL. BUT LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT I AGREE. THAT WAS PROBABLY THE FIRST STEP. YOU KNOW IT'S 45 AND GRAVEL RIDGE. SO JUST MAKING IT MORE CONSISTENT WOULD PROBABLY HELP. THERE ARE OTHER ALTERNATIVES, BUT I THINK THE FIRST STEP WOULD BE LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT FOR NOW AND THEN GOING FROM THERE. LET'S SEE. YOU KNOW HOW SOME PEOPLE ARE. IT'S AND I'M NOT SAYING I'M GUILTY OF THIS, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE OH THE SPEED LIMIT IS THIS. WELL I CAN PUSH IT THEN TO THIS, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. SO IT JUST KIND OF BRINGS THAT THRESHOLD DOWN. NOW I WILL SAY, IN ALL FAIRNESS, BECAUSE I SAW THIS RESPONSE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, WHICH WAS FAIR, THAT THIS ACCIDENT WAS NOT A RESULT OF SPEEDING, IT WAS A RESULT OF RUNNING RED LIGHT. AND THAT IS A SYSTEMIC PROBLEM. I MEAN, THAT CAN HAPPEN ANYWHERE. CERTAINLY I WOULD SAY THAT'S PROBABLY THE BULK OF OUR ACCIDENTS ON BROCKINGTON AND KILL, YOU KNOW, IN OTHER PLACES. HOWEVER, I DO THINK THERE IS A LEGITIMATE POINT TO THE FACT OF
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IF YOU'VE EVER TRIED TO GET OUT OF MILLER'S CROSSING, MILLER HEIGHTS, MILLER'S POINT, IT'S A LITTLE UNNERVING. I MEAN, YOU YOU'RE LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU FEEL LIKE YOU GOT TO JUMP ON THE GAS BECAUSE THEY'RE COMING BEHIND YOU PRETTY QUICK. LIKE, AND YOU DO HAVE PEOPLE WHO RIDE THEIR BIKES WHO WALK ALONG, YOU KNOW, SIDEWALKS AND SO FORTH IN THAT AREA. AND SO I DO GET THE POINT WITH IT. AND I CERTAINLY I TOTALLY AGREE WITH JOSH AND THAT I DO THINK WE COULD PROBABLY DO A LITTLE BIT MORE IN TERMS OF WARNING. I DON'T THINK THE RUMBLE STRIPS, I DON'T THINK ARDOT WOULD EVER RECOMMEND THAT, BUT I THINK SO, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN EVEN REQUEST, HEY, CAN WE DO YOU MIND? BECAUSE ANYTHING WE DO ON 107, WE, WE HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH THEM. SO CERTAINLY JOSH WOULD REACH OUT, HE WOULD SEND A PICTURE OF THE SIGN THAT HE'S LOOKING AT, AND THEN WE WOULD GET A PERMIT FROM THEM TO INSTALL IT OF ANYTHING BEYOND THE SPEED LIMIT. SO YEAH, I'VE GOT A OH GO AHEAD. OH WELL I WAS JUST DID THIS ACCIDENT OCCURRED DURING DAYLIGHT OR NOT? IT WAS DURING THE DAY ON THAT PORTION OF THE HIGHWAY IS NOT VERY WELL. THIS IS A VERY GOOD POINT. AND JUST SO Y'ALL KNOW, I HAVE BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS WONDERFUL RESIDENT IN ALL OF HIS CAPACITIES WHO WORKS FOR FIRST ELECTRIC. AND THAT'S A FIRST ELECTRIC AREA. AND SO THIS WAS ALSO MY OPENING BECAUSE WE HAD COINCIDENTALLY JUST HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE IT IS SO DARK IN THAT AREA. AND PART OF IT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF LIGHTS OUT. THAT'S YOUR NOTE AND THAT AREA. BUT THE LIGHT, THERE'S LIKE THREE IN A ROW ANYWAY, DRIVE IT TONIGHT. BUT ANYWAY, BUT EVEN WITH THE LIGHTS BEING ON, THEY ARE SET SO FAR BACK THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB LIGHTING THE HILLSIDE, BUT NOT A GREAT JOB ACTUALLY LIGHTING THE ROAD. AND SO I SPOKE TO ARDOT. IT'S BEEN SENT UP THE LINES FROM HUNTER LAKE IS OUR ENGINEER TO TO SEE IF THEY WOULD PARTNER WITH US, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A LOT OF LIGHTING. AND THAT COMES AT A AT AN EXPENSE. BUT I THINK IT WOULD IMPROVE THE SAFETY. AND I REMINDED HIM OF THAT WHEN WE HAD OUR LATEST CONVERSATION AS I'M WAITING FOR THEIR RESULT.SO HE AGREES. BUT HE'S GOT IT. IT'S GOT TO GO UP THE LINES TO SEE IF WE CAN PARTNER WITH ARDOT ON THAT, ON THE EXPENSE TO, YOU KNOW, HELP WITH US. ABSOLUTELY. 100% AGREE IT IS TOO DARK, ESPECIALLY WITH THERE BEING SO MUCH RESIDENTIAL IN THERE. AND I'M SURE YOU ALL HAVE SEEN JOSH WE FORGOT TO MENTION, BUT BROCKINGTON IS NOW FULLY LIT AND YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE THAT MAKES KIEL. WE DID ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS ON KIEL. YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE IT MAKES. AND THEN EVERYBODY JUST GETS USED TO THE LIGHTING. AND YOU DON'T REALIZE IT EVER WAS THAT WAY. BUT CERTAINLY 107 I THINK WE DO IT IN TWO STEPS I THINK BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE EXPENSIVE. BUT I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT AREAS BETWEEN KELLOGG AND BROCKINGTON BECAUSE OF ALL THE RESIDENTIAL BEYOND KELLOGG, IT'S NOT SO BAD BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT BUILT UP BUSINESSES AND THE LIGHTING IS CLOSER. YEAH, YEAH. AND THEY'LL NEVER BE ANYTHING IN THAT STRETCH YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE OF THE DESIGN. THE HILL. YEAH, EXACTLY. SO YEAH. BUT THANK YOU RANDY FOR I FORGOT ABOUT THAT. SO THANKS. BUT ANYTHING ELSE. WELL I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR JOSH ON THE NEW IF, IF WE LOWER THIS TO THE 45, COULD FLAGS BE PUT ON THE NEW SIGNS TO BE AN ATTENTION GETTER? YES, WE TYPICALLY DO DO THAT FOR A MONTH OR SO. YES, ABSOLUTELY. TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THE REDUCED SIGNS, THE NEW SIGNAGE. ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S HELPFUL BECAUSE AS A RESIDENT, I WOULD JUST THINK IT WAS ANOTHER YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD I WOULD NOTICE IT IF THERE WASN'T SOMETHING THAT'S LIKE, HEY, THIS IS NEW. IT'S DIFFERENT. PAY ATTENTION TO ME.
ONE OTHER THOUGHT IS I'VE HAD SOME CONSTITUENTS REACH OUT ABOUT HOW MUCH WE PUSH ON SOCIAL MEDIA, AND SOME OF THEM HAVE CALLED ME AND SAID, WE DON'T DO SOCIAL MEDIA. AND SO THEY ARE WANTING A WAY THAT THEY CAN BE INFORMED OF SITUATIONS LIKE THIS WITHOUT BEING RELIANT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. SO DO WE HAVE SOME OTHER AVENUES? I AM SO GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP. COUNCIL MEMBER STREET AS A MATTER OF FACT, YES. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE IF YOU GO ON TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE, YOU CAN SIGN UP ON THAT FRONT PAGE FOR ALERTS. YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR THE YOU CAN PICK WHAT YOU WANT TO SIGN UP FOR SO YOU CAN GET
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ALL YOUR ALERTS IN TERMS OF STREET CLOSINGS, WEATHER ALERTS, THE NEWSLETTER CAN COME DIRECTLY TO YOUR EMAIL SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO SOCIAL MEDIA. BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND SOCIAL MEDIA IS NOT EXACTLY A SAFE PLACE THESE DAYS. SO THEREFORE, YES, ABSOLUTELY. YOU CAN BYPASS AND GET ALL THOSE ALERTS, ALL THOSE POSTS AND EVERYTHING. FEEDING THAT INFORMATION ALSO ARE OFTEN IN THE ALERTS. SO THEY WOULD GET THEM THAT WAY. AND THEN WE PUT EVERYTHING IN THE NEWSLETTER AS WELL. THAT'S HELPFUL. THANK YOU. I FEEL LIKE YOU JUST LIKE THREW A LITTLE SOFTBALL AT ME. WELL, HE THREW ME THE FLAG AND THEN I DIDN'T MEAN TO THROW THAT TO YOU, BUT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF UNITY GOING ON TONIGHT. YES, I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR CHLOE TO PUT THAT OUT. WELL, AS I SAY, SOCIAL, HERE WE GO. I'M KIND OF. SO HERE'S AN IDEA. I'M TRYING TO THINK OF HOW WE GET THIS OUT TO THE MASSES THAT THIS IS AVAILABLE. THIS. SO WHAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY IS DOING ANOTHER POSTCARD MASS MAILER OUT TO EVERYBODY. WE DID THAT SHORTLY AFTER I WAS ELECTED TO LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THE NEWSLETTER AND HOW TO SIGN UP FOR IT. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DOING THAT AGAIN. AND SO INCLUDING THE THE CITY WEBSITE AND THE HOW YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR THE NEWSLETTER, HOW YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR THE ALERTS. AND SO THEY'LL GET THAT EVERY HOUSEHOLD COULD POTENTIALLY GET THAT. THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DOING IS CERTAINLY AS NEW RESIDENTS COME IN AND THEY GET THEIR TRASH CAN OR WHATEVER, ALSO INCLUDING THAT INFORMATION. BUT WE NEED TO GO BACK IN TIME, YOU KNOW, TO GET THE ONES WHO'VE BEEN HERE WHO ARE NOT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. SO THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT. WE'VE GOT TO SEE THE COST AND SEE IF WE'VE GOT THAT ALREADY BUDGETED, AND IF NOT, WE'LL BE COMING TO YOU GUYS TO APPROPRIATE THAT. SO I LIKE THAT. THANK YOU.THANK YOU. ANY MORE SOFTBALLS MAN. THIS IS AWESOME. SO. ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT I MEAN I, I TEND TO AGREE EXACTLY TO WITH THE, WITH THE LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT THERE TO MAKE THAT CONSISTENT. I THINK I AGREE JUST A NO BRAINER REALLY ON THAT. SO YEAH, I DON'T THINK IT'S ANYTHING NEED TO VOTE ON. BUT BUT WE'LL JUST BE SURE TO LET THE COUNCIL KNOW THAT WE UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMEND THAT OURSELVES. SO AND GO WITH THAT. AND THEN JUST OF COURSE JOSH WILL KEEP US UPDATED IF HE IF YOU LOOK INTO MAYBE THE THE SIGNAGE AND STUFF, JUST JUST LET US KNOW. CERTAINLY WOULDN'T HURT. I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WOULD WOULD WOULD THINK THINK ANYTHING DIFFERENT. OKAY. WE'LL GO ON NOW TO JOSH IS GOING TO GO OVER THE 2026 STREET OVERLAY PROJECT. YES. SO THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT, WE PUT TOGETHER EACH YEAR LIKE A PRELIMINARY LIST. BUT WE'RE WE'RE BASICALLY GUESSING, YOU KNOW, OF WHAT THE COST OF THE TONNAGE OF ASPHALT PER TON AND THE MILLING EACH YEAR BEFORE IT GOES OUT TO BID. SO WE PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF WHAT WE THINK WE CAN GET DONE. BUT WE YOU WE DON'T TYPICALLY LIKE TO PUBLISH THE LIST AS FAR AS THE STREETS GO, BECAUSE IF IT GOES OUT TO BID AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, $50 MORE PER TON, THEN WE'VE GOT TO START TRIMMING OFF THAT LIST. AND PEOPLE ARE LIKE, WELL, HEY, YOU SAID WE'RE YOU'RE GOING TO OVERLAY MY STREET. SO AT THIS POINT IT'S EARLY IN THE GAME AS FAR AS COMING UP WITH THE LIST AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ALL CAN BE DONE. I DID, YOU KNOW THIS, WE HAVE A THIRD PARTY CALLED FIRST STEPS THAT COME AND THEY EVALUATE ALL OF OUR STREETS AND THEY RATE THEM. THEY DRIVE EVERY STREET WITH WITH CAMERAS MOUNTED ON THE VEHICLES. SO THEY'VE GOT HIGH RESOLUTION VIDEO OF ALL THE STREETS. I DID BRING MY MAP OFF THE WALL OUT OF THE OFFICE SO WE CAN LOOK OVER THAT AT, YOU KNOW, IF IF ANY OF Y'ALL ARE INTERESTED LOOKING OVER THAT AFTER THE MEETING. BUT RIGHT NOW I'VE, I'VE GOT A LIST THAT I'LL SHARE WITH YOU ALL. BUT LIKE I SAID, I'M GUESSING AT THE COST. AND UNTIL IT GOES OUT TO BID, WE WON'T KNOW IF WE CAN ADD TO IT OR IF WE'VE GOT TO TAKE SOME STREETS OFF OF IT.
YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE STREETS WAS REALLY PUSHED WAS SEMINOLE TRAIL. AND THAT'S A UNIQUE ROAD.
IT'S A CONCRETE ROAD AND WE'VE BEEN PATCHING IT NEEDS TO BE DONE, BUT IT'S ON A HILL AND SOME OF THE HOMES ARE LOWER. SO THEIR DRIVEWAYS, THERE IS NO CURB. A LOT OF THEM JUST GO STRAIGHT DOWN INTO THEIR GARAGE OR WHATEVER. SO IF WE WERE TO OVERLAY IT, IT'S GOING TO PUSH ALL THE WATER STRAIGHT DOWN THE DRIVEWAY, POTENTIALLY INTO THEIR GARAGES AND THEIR HOMES.
SO IT'S NEVER IDEAL TO MILL CONCRETE. YOU ROSS PROBABLY KNOWS IT EATS AWAY THE HEADS OF
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THE MILL AND MACHINE. SO I'VE I'VE MET WITH THE CONTRACTOR, HE SAYS. IT'S DOABLE. YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO COST MORE, BUT IT IS DOABLE. AND WE CAN WE CAN MANAGE THAT. SO I DO HAVE THAT ON THE LIST. BUT AGAIN, IT'S COSTLY. BUT YOU KNOW WE'RE WORKING ON IT. YOU KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING MAY NOT BE SET IN STONE AS FAR AS THE STREET NAME THE STREET LIST UNTIL IT GOES OUT TO BED AND WE GET THE FINAL NUMBERS AND WE CAN ADJUST THE LIST. THAT'S REALLY ALL I'VE GOT. YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I'VE BROUGHT PLENTY OF COPIES. WE CAN GO OVER THE STREETS. I THINK WE CAN GET DONE. THAT'S IF Y'ALL GOT ANY QUESTIONS. THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE ARE.WE'RE WORKING ON IT. THE SOONER YOU GET IT OUT TO BID EACH YEAR, THE BETTER OFF WE ARE. YOU KNOW, THE THE CONTRACTORS ARE LINING UP THEIR WORK FOR THE YEAR. YES. SO THEY'RE THE NUMBERS ARE TYPICALLY LOWER. SO WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE. AND THAT WAS WHAT I MENTIONED EARLIER. I DID SPEAK TO SOMEONE AND HE SAID THERE'S THE PEOPLE HE'S TALKED TO. THEY'RE LOOKING FOR WORK. SO I'M HOPING THE NUMBERS ARE LOWER LIKE LAST YEAR. WE JUST DON'T KNOW YET. BUT IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT I'M. MAYBE I WAS ASLEEP LAST TIME WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. IT'S GOOD TO KNOW WE HAVE A THIRD PARTY THAT'S ACTUALLY EVALUATING THE STREETS, BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU GET QUESTIONS FROM PEOPLE. WELL, HOW DO THEY DECIDE WHAT STREETS WE'RE GOING TO DO? SO THAT'S RIGHT. IT'S GOOD TO KNOW WE GOT A THIRD PARTY. THAT'S RIGHT. AND IT'S EVERY THREE YEARS. YES.
AND AND I'VE JUST MET WITH THEM. WE'VE GOT SOME NEW STREETS AND SOME NEW SUBDIVISIONS THAT HAVE THAT WE'VE GOT TO ADD TO THE LIST. BUT IT IS DUE FOR TO BE REEVALUATED, UPDATED THIS YEAR.
SO I'LL HAVE NEW MAPS AND ALL NEW DATA. YES. OKAY. THAT'S INTERESTING. SO IS THIS A IS A THIRD PARTY COMPANY SOMEBODY THAT THE CITY PAYS TO COME IN AND GIVE US AN UNBIASED OPINION? THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. YES, MA'AM. THAT'S INTERESTING. YES. THANK YOU. WHEN OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE GOING TO GET IT AS SOON AS YOU CAN. BUT BUT WITHIN SIX WEEKS OR SO PROBABLY HAVE THE BIDS IN AND OUT I'D SAY. YEAH. YEAH. BUT THEN YEAH WE SHOULD KNOW A LOT MORE. YES. OKAY.
THANKS TO THAT. YES, SIR. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT? JOSH I'LL LET YOU GO RIGHT INTO YOUR, YOUR LAST THING THERE ABOUT THE THREE WAY STOP. YES. SO IF, IF Y'ALL ARE NOT AWARE, WE HAVE REQUESTS. YOU KNOW, THE PLACE ON THE WEBSITE WHERE PEOPLE, RESIDENTS CAN REQUEST DIFFERENT THINGS. SO THIS WAS SIMPLY, YOU KNOW, SHELBY AND HOLLY IS JUST PAST WILLOW GROVE. IT'S 150FT FROM THAT STOP SIGN AT WILLOW GROVE AND SHELBY. WELL, I'VE GOT PICTURES. PHOTOS? SHE'S SAYING IF SHE'S TAKEN A LEFT TURN, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY DANGEROUS. THERE'S A SIGHT DISTANCE. WELL, IN MY OPINION, THERE'S NOT REALLY A SIGHT DISTANCE, SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO Y'ALL'S ATTENTION. YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT CAN BE TABLED IF Y'ALL WANT TO DRIVE IT AND JUST CHECK IT OUT. I DON'T THINK ADDING ANOTHER STOP SIGN REALLY, IN MY OPINION, WILL HELP THE SITUATION. I DON'T SEE IT AS A MAJOR ISSUE.
THIS IS A THE ONLY REQUEST FOR THIS THAT I'VE RECEIVED FOR THIS INTERSECTION, BUT AGAIN, I WANT TO BRING IT TO Y'ALL'S ATTENTION BECAUSE IT WAS A REQUEST FROM A RESIDENT. IT'S A CORNER OF HOLLY AND SHELBY. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO PUT ANOTHER THREAD, NOT MOVE.
PUT AN ADDITIONAL ADDITIONAL. YEAH. AND YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T STOP AT MOST OF THE ONES WE HAVE. YEAH. SO IT'S LIKE YOU CAN SEE THAT RIGHT. YOU CAN SEE THAT ROAD I MEAN LIKE YOU STARTED. YEAH. YEAH. YES. YEAH I KNOW YEAH I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. YEAH. AND THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. WELL I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH THAT. BUT YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY RELY ON, ON, ON THE STREET DEPARTMENT AND, AND YOU AND YOUR OPINIONS ON THAT TYPE OF THING. SO IF YOU DON'T SEE THE, THE NECESSITY IN IT RIGHT NOW IS ANYBODY ELSE. I'M, I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA. THAT'S HOW I COME HERE. SO YEAH, IT IS LIKE LITERALLY YOU THREE WAY. THAT'S RIGHT.
YOU CAN SEE IT. IT'S. YEAH. GOTCHA GOTCHA. YES IT IS IF THAT. YES OKAY OKAY OKAY. OKAY.
THAT TOOK CARE. ONE THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT WASN'T ON THE AGENDA BUT JUST ABOUT NEW BUSINESS. I GUESS IT'S A GOOD PLACE TO FIT IT IN SINCE IT'S THE LAST THING TO GO WITH. YOU KNOW, WE CHANGED LAST YEAR AND WENT FROM MEETING EVERY MONTH TO MEETING ONCE A QUARTER.
WHICH WAS GOOD IN THE SENSE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, CANCEL MEETINGS AND
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THINGS LIKE THAT. AND A LOT OF TIMES THERE'S THERE'S, YOU KNOW, NOBODY WANTS TO MEET JUST TO MEET, YOU KNOW, WE ALL IN OUR PROFESSIONAL LIVES AND, AND, AND OTHER LIVES, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT IS AND HAVE THAT. BUT THAT ALSO PUTS A LITTLE BIT THIS PAST YEAR IN GETTING A QUORUM WHERE WE DO HAVE TO GET SOME THINGS DONE THAT FOUR TIMES A YEAR. I THINK WE ENDED UP MEETING THREE TIMES LAST YEAR, AND ONE OF THEM HAD TO BE EVEN, YOU KNOW, PUT BACK PUT OFF A WEEK AFTER THAT. SO JUST THROWING THIS OUT THERE FOR KIND OF FOR DISCUSSION, I MEAN, I, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DO EVERY MONTH PERSONALLY. MAYBE EVERY OTHER MONTH. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. IT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, JOSH AND I CAN TALK. AT THE FIRST OF THAT MONTH, THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING GOING ON THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. WE CAN LOOK AT IT AT THAT POINT, BUT I'M JUST I'M JUST THINKING THE QUARTERLY MIGHT NOT BE ENOUGH CONSIDERING, YOU KNOW, WE ALL SOME, YOU KNOW, HAVE WORK AND DIFFERENT THINGS AND CAN'T MAKE IT. AND YOU KNOW, TWO PEOPLE CAN'T MAKE IT, THEN WE'RE NOT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING.SO WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? I'M GOOD WITH THAT. EVERY OTHER EVERY OTHER, EVERY OTHER MONTH.
SOUNDS FEASIBLE. IT'S FINE FOR ME. I'M OPEN TO IT. YEAH. LIKE YOU SAID, IF THERE'S NOTHING ON THE AGENDA, NOTHING PRESSING, AND MAYBE YOU CAN SKIP THAT ONE OR SOMETHING. SO WE'LL JUST MAKE A POINT TO MAKE SURE YOU AND I TALK. YEAH. FIRST OF THAT MONTH OF WHATEVER AND SEE. AND OBVIOUSLY IF THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE OFF MONTHS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED, WE CAN WE CAN ALWAYS DO THAT. BUT THAT WAY, I THINK WE WE STAY ON TOP OF THINGS A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
WE'RE ABLE TO ANSWER, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF IT'S NOT MAJOR DISCUSSION, BUT HAVE JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE, YOU KNOW, UP TO DATE OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IF THAT WORKS, WE CAN JUST DO THE I MEAN IT'S JANUARY SO WE'LL JUST DO WILL THAT BE MARCH, MARCH, MARCH, MAY, JULY. SEPTEMBER, NOVEMBER. IF I SAID THAT RIGHT. AND I'M FAIRLY NEW SO YEP.
THAT'S RIGHT OKAY. IS IT, IS IT A CERTAIN IS IT A CERTAIN DAY. IT'S THE IT'S THE IS IT SECOND SECOND SECOND THURSDAY OF THE MONTH. SECOND THURSDAY OF THE MONTH. THANK YOU. OKAY. THAT'S HELPFUL. SECOND THURSDAY OF THE MONTH. YEAH. MARCH, MARCH. MAY MAY. JULY. JULY. SEPTEMBER.
NOVEMBER. NOVEMBER. NOVEMBER. OKAY. THAT GETS US TO WORK IT ON THE FLY. PERFECT, RIGHT? DID IT. YOU DID IT. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? ALL RIGHT, WELL, IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE WILL. WE WILL ADJOURN IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO. MOTION TO ADJOURN. MOTION TO ADJOURN. NO.
NO OBJECTIONS TO THAT, I'M SURE. AND WE WILL. UNLESS SOMETHING COMES UP, WE WILL PLAN ON MEETING THEN. I DON'T KNOW THE DATE, BUT WHATEVER DATE IT IS
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