Jan 29, 2026 City Council

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WE BOTH LOVE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. WE'VE HAD TO RESCHEDULE THIS TWICE.

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WADE. MCCULLOUGH. HERE. TOWNSEND. HERE. TREAT. ALL RIGHT. THE FIRST THING THAT WE

[4. Motion to reconsider Ordinance 2437, as amended by Ordinance No. 2441, regarding organizational rules and procedures.]

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CAMERON GOT THIS FOR ME AND I CAN HAVE IT FOR YOU, AND THAT'LL MAKE THAT CORRECT. AND ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT WE CAN DO ON THIS TODAY IS SINCE WE DO HAVE THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS OUT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANYTHING MORE THAT THEY WANTED TO ADD. AND I'LL GET TO YOU IN JUST A SECOND. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS. BUT WHAT WE CAN DO ALSO IS PASS THE MOTION. AND THEN IN THE FEBRUARY MEETING, ALL THESE DIFFERENT CHANGES, WE COULD GET A CLEAN COPY TO THEN ADOPT WITH THE CHANGES TO YOU COULD MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE RULES AS WRITTEN AT THIS POINT, THAT WILL PUT YOU IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE RULE THAT YOU HAVE TO MEET IN JANUARY.

AND THEN WE CAN SUBMIT ADDITIONAL CHANGES AND IT CAN BE VIEWED IN FEBRUARY. JUST IMPORTANT THAT WE JUST ON THE RECORD SHOW THAT THE THE ORGANIZATIONAL PART WAS MET.

THAT WOULD BE A PROPER MOTION, I THINK, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. AND I JUST SAY ALL THAT NOT TO TELL YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, TO SAY THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD DO, BUT JUST GIVING YOU THAT AS AN OPTION. COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS YES, I MEAN, REFERENCE TO THE MEETING THAT WE WENT TO ARKANSAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE THAT MISS BROOKS RESPONDED TO. I DID WE SEVERAL OF US WERE IN THAT MEETING, BUT WE DID PROVIDE AND PUT ALL YOUR BOXES, THIS ONE THAT TALKED ABOUT THE PROCEDURES. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME TO THAT WAS AN MOMENT TO ME. I THINK WE DID IT, BUT I DON'T THINK WE ENFORCED IT. MAYBE. OR I GOT THE IMPRESSION THAT FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, WHEN PEOPLE SIGN IN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS ALMOST ADAMANT FROM EVERY CITY THAT WAS THERE IS THAT ON THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, YOU PUT YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS AND YOUR PHONE NUMBER. AND I JUST ASKED THE QUESTION, ARE WE DOING THAT? AND WHAT I WAS TOLD IS THAT THAT IS ON OUR FORM. SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT DOING THAT.

THEY'RE NOT FILLING IT OUT. AND SO I ASKED THE QUESTION, YOU KNOW, I'M SO SHY, I HARDLY SPOKE, BUT I DID ASK THE QUESTION, WELL, WHAT DO YOU DO IF SOMEONE DOESN'T DO THAT? THEY THEY'VE ESTABLISHED THAT AS A PROCEDURE THAT IF YOU FAIL TO COMPLETE THAT REQUIREMENT, YOU DON'T GET CALLED ON TO SPEAK. SO I THOUGHT, OH, OKAY. SO THEY SAID BECAUSE IT'S OUR RULE IN OUR RULE AND THE RULE HAS TO BE FOLLOWED. SO I THOUGHT, WELL, WE AT LEAST NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT. YES. I'M NOT SAYING I'M NOT PROPOSING YES OR NO ON IT, BUT IT WAS LIKE AN MOMENT BECAUSE LIKE, THERE ARE AT LEAST THREE CITY COUNCILS OR THREE CITIES THAT ARE UP THERE TALKING ABOUT IT, AND THEY ALL WERE. AND MY MISSPEAKING BECAUSE I THINK, NO, MA'AM. OKAY. NO. AND AND SO WHEN WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION, I THINK THEY WHEN PEOPLE HAVE REFUSED TO GIVE THEIR ADDRESS, IT'S BEEN TOPICS THAT WERE MORE VOLATILE IN NATURE. AND SO IN ORDER TO KIND OF KEEP TENSIONS DOWN IS THE REASON WHY WE THEN WENT AHEAD AND ALLOWED THEM TO SPEAK. BUT THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. AND IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL CERTAINLY FEELS STRONGLY ABOUT, WE DID GET THE BACKING FROM ALL THE OTHER CITIES IN THERE, THAT THERE WERE NO CITIES THAT ALLOWED ANYBODY TO SPEAK, THAT DID NOT SIGN IN WITH THEIR NAME, ADDRESS. WELL, MAYBE WE YOU KNOW, WE'VE ASKED THEM TO GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS AT THE PODIUM. MAYBE WE JUST ASK THEM TO GIVE THEIR NAME AT THE PODIUM AND ASK THEM FOR THEIR ADDRESS. AND IF THEY SAY THEY DON'T WANT TO GIVE THEIR ADDRESS AS LONG AS IT'S ON THE WRITTEN DOWN, BECAUSE MAYBE THEY DON'T WANT TO PUBLICIZE THEIR ADDRESS OUT. AND I CAN SEE THAT BECAUSE WE'RE BROADCASTING THIS OUT, SOMEONE CAN ALWAYS FOI THE LIST. THEY THEY CAN AND THEN PUBLISH IT. BUT YES. AND BUT IF THEY DON'T WANT TO GIVE THEIR ADDRESS PUBLICLY TO BE OUT THERE ON THE WEB, AS LONG AS IT'S WRITTEN DOWN, WE HAVE THEIR ADDRESS AND I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT THEY REQUIRED THEM TO SAY IT FROM THE PODIUM. I SAID, YEAH, WE CAN ASK THEM, BUT IT WAS ONLY THE WRITING PART THAT THEY WEREN'T GOING TO BE CALLED IF IT WASN'T ON THE WRITING PART. LIKE, I GUESS YOU HAVE IT AND THAT'S HOW THEY'RE CALLED. SO HOW DO THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS FEEL ABOUT IT? DO YOU ALL FEEL THAT AS LONG AS THEY PUT IT ON THE FORM, YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT AND YOU FEEL THE SAME WAY? YEAH. YOU FEEL THE SAME WAY. DO YOU WANT THE RULE TO SAY THAT IN THE EVENT YOU DO

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IT IS A PROBLEM. BUT I ALSO GET I GOT A CALL FROM A GENTLEMAN AND HE HAD A LEGITIMATE CONCERN, AND IT HAD TO DO WITH IF THE CITY WAS CHANGING THE WAY THAT CULVERTS AND THAT WAS. AND SO HIS CONCERN REALLY DID DEAL WITH CITY BUSINESS. BUT IF THAT WASN'T ON THE AGENDA, HE HAS NO NO AVENUE TO SPEAK AND LET THE COUNCIL KNOW, HEY, IS THIS GOING TO CHANGE OR DO YOU NEED TO ALLOCATE MONEY SO IT DOESN'T CHANGE. AND SO I, I HAVE HEARTBURN ABOUT NOT ALLOWING PEOPLE TO SPEAK. SO THAT'S WHERE I THINK IT. IF SO YOU CAN AS A COUNCIL MEMBER THEN BRING THAT UP AS ANYBODY CAN UNDER NEW BUSINESS. THAT'S ALL I WAS GOING TO ASK. CAN WE JUST WE CAN JUST ASK THEM TO BRING IT UP UNDER NEW BUSINESS OR OLD BUSINESS, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST, LIKE IF THERE'S BEEN A DRAINAGE ISSUE IN A CERTAIN AREA, FOR INSTANCE, AND THE PERSON HAS BEEN HAVING DRAINAGE ISSUE AND WE SAY, HEY, THIS PERSON HAS NOT HAD THIS DRAINAGE ISSUE RESOLVED, THEY'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON IT. WE COULD ALWAYS PUT THEM DOWN UNDER OLD BUSINESS. WE COULD SPONSOR THAT PERSON. IS THAT NOT CORRECT? YES, THAT IS CORRECT AND HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA. THEN WE AND THEN ALLOW THEM TO COME UP AND SPEAK. THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO BE ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T EVEN SHOW, YOU KNOW, IF THEY DON'T COME UP, IF THEY DON'T SHOW UP, THEY MAY NOT SHOW UP. THEY MAY DECIDE AT THE LAST MINUTE TO SHOW UP, AND THEN THEY COULD SIGN IN AND PUT IT UNDER OLD BUSINESS. THAT'S THE I THINK THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO KIND OF MANAGE THAT IS, IS TO LET IT GO THROUGH THE COUNCIL AND YOU GUYS DECIDE WHO YOU'D LIKE TO COME IN AND SPEAK, AND THEN YOU CAN PREFACE WHATEVER THE TOPIC IS UNDER NEW BUSINESS, JUST LIKE YOU SAID, I DON'T THINK YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE RULE BACK TO LEAVING. JUST OPEN COMMENT AT THE END OF THE MEETING. SO I DON'T THINK THAT WAS A GOOD THING. WE DID HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS. BUT ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS YOU KNOW, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, EACH YEAR, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THIS BEING READDRESSED, I JUST DON'T WANT A CITIZEN TO NOT FEEL THAT THEY CANNOT COME TO A COUNCIL MEETING AND ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE. I THINK WE CAN HELP THEM ON THAT. SO HOPEFULLY THE RESIDENT IN YOUR WARD WOULD SAY IT. TOWNSEND I'D LIKE TO FOR US TO DISCUSS THIS AND, AND THEN YOU COULD PUT IT ON THE NEW BUSINESS AND THEN THEY YOU'VE GOT IT COVERED. AND THAT'S I MEAN AND THAT'S HOW I'VE APPROACHED IT WITH THOSE THAT HAVE CALLED ME. BUT I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THE ONES THAT I SPEAK TO, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T WANT. BUT I ALSO HAVE SEEN AND WITNESSED HOW THINGS CAN GET OUT OF CONTROL AS WELL.

SO I UNDERSTAND WHY THERE MAY NOT BE A LINE IN THERE SPECIFICALLY TO ALLOW THAT, OR WHY THAT WAS TAKEN AWAY. WHENEVER THAT WAS TAKEN AWAY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SHOULD WE HAVE A RESIDENT CALL US, REACH OUT TO ANY OF US, OR EVEN IF THEY JUST SHOW UP AND SAY, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT THIS CONCERN, CAN I SPEAK? CAN I PLEAD MY CASE, SHARE MY THOUGHTS, EXPRESS MYSELF AT THIS MEETING? I WANT THERE TO AT LEAST BE SOME SORT OF AN AVENUE FOR INDIVIDUALS TO DO THAT. UNDER THE PREMISE THAT WE HAVE A MAYOR THAT'S OVERSEEING

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YES. AND I THINK THAT ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS, THOUGH. I WOULD ASK, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER HAVE THEY CONTACTED, SAY, PUBLIC WORKS, FOR EXAMPLE, TO FIND OUT IF THERE'S VALIDITY TO THAT CONCERN? THE OTHER THING IS, WHEN IT WAS STRICTLY OPEN COMMENT, THERE WAS NO BACK AND FORTH ALLOWED. SO YOU WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, THIS WHOLE WHAT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AND THIS AND IT QUICKLY COULD ESCALATE INTO SOMETHING. AND ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE NOT PREPARED IN TERMS OF HAVING THE RIGHT PEOPLE AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO THAT.

IT'S LIKE THAT WAY IT COULD HAVE BEEN CHECKED INTO AT FIRST, AND PERHAPS WHAT THEY THOUGHT WAS AN ISSUE WAS NOT NECESSARILY AN ISSUE OR THAT, YOU KNOW, JOSH, OR THAT THE POLICE OR THAT WHOEVER NEEDS TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST COME PREPARED SO THAT THEY CAN BE ADDRESSED. YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S VERY PLAIN IN THE LAST PAGE OF OUR NOTES OF OUR PROCEDURE. YEAH, UNDER THE RULES OF PUBLIC COMMENT SAID THERE WILL NOT BE A DISCUSSION. AND THE THING IS, IS WE IT'S OUR FAULT, FOLKS, BECAUSE WE TEND TO WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT. AND SO THEREFORE WE OPEN IT UP. WE JUST GOTTA START KEEPING OURSELVES IN. BUT WE CAN ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION. I THINK THAT I THINK I THINK YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. SURE. BUT IT'S THE IT'S THE DISCUSSION AND THAT THAT THEN WE THEN WE JUST EXACERBATED THE PROBLEM. AGREED. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT AN AVENUE TO ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN. AND I THINK I THINK WE DO UNDER NEW BUSINESS OR OLD BUSINESS. AND SO I THINK THAT IS THERE. YEAH. BUT I THINK IT'S PART OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. IT'S JUST KIND OF YOU GUYS ARE THE, YOU KNOW, ELECTED PEOPLE OF YOUR WARD. AND IT GIVES YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO A TRY TO GET MORE INFORMATION, MITIGATE, SOLVE THE PROBLEM, AND ALSO FOR YOU ALL TO DO YOUR JUDGMENT IS THIS IS THIS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO COME BEFORE THE THE GREATER COUNCIL BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GETTING ANY REASONABLE RESOLUTION, RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE. AND AND I GUESS I GET BACK TO DO YOU WANT TO. THIS IN FEBRUARY IN TERMS OF ANY POTENTIAL CHANGES. DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT NOW? DO YOU THINK THE RULE IS THAT WE HAVE TO ADOPT THIS NOW, IS IT NOT? STEVEN. YES. WELL, WE WHAT YOU COULD DO IS YOU COULD MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE RULES AS THEY WERE PASSED IN JANUARY OF LAST YEAR. THAT WAY YOU HAVE MET THAT OBLIGATION IN JANUARY.

IN THE PAST WE HAVE COME BACK WITH SOME CHANGES. MARINA, YOU REMEMBER EITHER LAST YEAR OR YEAR BEFORE THAT, YOU HAD AN IDEA ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WE CAME BACK IN LIKE FEBRUARY OR MARCH, RIGHT? SO THEN I COULD PREPARE KIND OF A A LIST OF WHAT I'VE LISTENED TO TODAY AND A DRAFT ORDINANCE TO BE CONSIDERED IN FEBRUARY, AND WE CAN TAKE IT UP THEN, BUT WE NEED A MOTION TODAY TO CONTINUE THE RULES AS THEY ARE SO MOVED. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION. WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, STEVE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET ON TOP OF THIS. YEAH, BUT I HAVE A QUESTION AFTER WE VOTE. OKAY, WE CAN DO IT BEFORE YOU VOTE. IF WE HAVE A HOLD ON JUST A SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BROOKS AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS TO ADOPT THE CURRENT PROCEDURES. COUNCIL MEMBER BRODERICK. SO YOU LIKE THREE THREE EDITS IS WHAT YOU WERE CHECKING THE WEATHER PROVISION THE VOICE VOTE AND THEN UPDATE THE YOUTUBE VERSUS WEBSITE THAT WAS. YEAH. AND THEN I'VE GOT NOTES ABOUT. THAT. INDIVIDUALS SIGNING UP TO SPEAK NEED TO GIVE THEIR ADDRESS OR WILL NOT BE RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIR, THE ADDRESS, PHONE NUMBER AND NAME. OH YOU WANT THE PHONE NUMBER TO ALL THREE? OKAY. AND I'VE GOT NOTES REGARDING THAT. THE COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY BRING UP MATTERS UNDER NEW BUSINESS THAT ARE OF A CONCERN. I'M GOING TO KEEP THAT KIND OF OPEN. I'M NOT GOING TO TIE IT DOWN. JUST LEAVE IT KIND OF VAGUE IS THAT I THINK THAT'S EVERYTHING. THAT'S EVERYTHING I THOUGHT I HAD WRITTEN DOWN. BUT THOSE ARE NOT BEING ADOPTED TODAY. THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE ADOPTING TODAY IS A CONTINUATION OF THE RULES OF 2025. CORRECT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. IF THERE BEING NONE, WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE. WADE TREAT MCCULLOUGH I BRODERICK BROOKS I THOMAS WILLIAMS I TOWNSEND I THE MOTION PASSES FIVE YES THREE

[5. Approval of the minutes of the regular called meeting on December 15, 2025, as transcribed]

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[6. December 2025 Financials]

OKAY. SURE. JUST ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY IN TERMS OF FINANCIAL? NOPE. NONE AT THIS TIME. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON. WE HAVE A NOPE. NOPE. OKAY. WE ARE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE SEVEN AND EIGHT TO NEXT MONTH. I DID REACH OUT AND SPEAK TO COACH JAMES TODAY.

THAT WOULD DEFINITELY WORK MUCH BETTER FOR THEM. AND WE'LL BE DOING THE SAME THING FOR OUR POLICE OFFICER, BECAUSE CERTAINLY WE WOULD LIKE A FULL AUDIENCE AT THAT TIME. ALL

[9. Committees/Commissions]

COUNCIL MEMBER WADE IS THE CHAIRMAN. HE'S NOT HERE. BUT BASICALLY. WANTED TO BRING AS A DISCUSSION ITEM FORWARD WITH YOU GUYS ON CHANGING THE SPEED LIMIT ON HIGHWAY 107. JOSH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME FORWARD? SO BASICALLY THIS ORIGINALLY CAME TO LIGHT AFTER A RESIDENTIAL WOULD HAD REQUESTED A STUDY FROM ARDOT ABOUT AN ACCIDENT THAT TOOK PLACE ON OAKDALE AND 107 IT INVOLVED. IT WAS CAUSED DUE TO A RUNNING OF A RED LIGHT. HOWEVER, THERE WAS A LIST OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THE RESIDENT ASKED TO BE EVALUATED, AND ARDOT REACHED OUT TO ME AND FELT THAT OUR THAT THE SPEED LIMIT. AFTER THEY STUDIED IT, THEY FELT LIKE IT IT THEY SUPPORTED LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT, MAKING IT MORE CONSISTENT BECAUSE IT THAT UP AND DOWN CHANGING OF IT. IT'S CONFUSING. AND THAT WAS SET BACK WHEN THERE WASN'T DEVELOPMENT DOWN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT DOWN BOTH SIDES OF 107 OVER THERE. WE'VE GOT NOW A FULL MILLER'S CROSSING, MILLER HEIGHTS, MILLERS POINT, MILLER'S GARDEN, ETC. MILLER LOTS OF MILLERS. YES. MILLER. MILLER'S EVERYWHERE. SO ANYWAY, I THEN TOOK THAT INFORMATION, SENT IT TO CHIEF HAGER. THEY CAME BACK AND SAID THAT THEY ALSO FELT THAT IT SHOULD ALL BE CHANGED FOR CONSISTENCY TO BE 45. IT GOES KIND OF 40, WHERE IT'S MORE CROWDED UP NEAR MARYLAND AND SO FORTH. IS THAT CORRECT? AND THEN FROM THERE, AS THERE'S LESS DEVELOPMENT, IT GOES TO 45 AND THAT IT SHOULD REMAIN 45 THROUGHOUT OUR CITY, FROM HUMBLE CRUM ALL THE WAY TO THE WELL, LET'S CALL IT KELLOGG GRAVEL. THAT'S I THAT'S UP FOR ME TO THE GRAVEL RIDGE AREA.

IT'LL BE 45 CONSISTENT. YES. NO, TWO ALL THE WAY THROUGH OUR CITY LIMITS. ALL THE WAY, WHICH GOES OUT TO THE HATCHER. HATCHER ROAD ISH. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I READ ON THAT. AND THEN ALSO PUBLIC WORKS. SAME THING. IT WAS ALSO DISCUSSED AT THE STREET COMMITTEE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SIGNAGE ON WARNING PEOPLE THAT THERE WAS A LIGHT COMING. THERE'S ALREADY SIGNAGE WARNING ABOUT THE LIGHT'S COMING, BUT WE CAN MAYBE DO SOME LIGHT FLASHERS OR SOMETHING. IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID LATER? IF IF IT'S NECESSARY, IF WE NEED TO MAKE ADDITIONAL MEASURES. BUT YOU CAN DO THE SOLAR FLASHING BEACONS, BEACONS TO ADDRESS IT FURTHER. BUT THERE ARE ADVANCED WARNINGS THAT STATE HIGHWAY. I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH HUNTER. NOT SURE THE TIMELINE

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AND AND I WILL SAY THAT JOSH EVEN ADJUSTED YOU CAN ADJUST THE TIMING OF THE SIGNALS. YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S TENTHS OF ONE HUNDREDTHS, TENTHS OF A SECOND. YOU KNOW. SO YOU KNOW WE ADD YELLOW TIME TO THE LIGHTS. BUT YOU CAN ALSO PAUSE IT BEFORE THE NEXT DIRECTION IS GREEN. SO WE'VE DONE THAT. WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT ALREADY. SO I ACTUALLY WENT ACROSS TOWN DOING THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A TREND OF RUNNING RED LIGHTS MORE NOW THAN THERE USED TO BE.

SO EVEN PRIOR TO THIS MAJOR ACCIDENT OR ALL THESE ACCIDENTS AT 107 BROCKINGTON I MYSELF WENT ACROSS TOWN AND WAS ADDING YELLOW TIME AND RED TIME TO THE SIGNALS, SO THAT'S DOABLE. THAT HAS BEEN DONE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT. APPRECIATE ALL PUBLIC WORKS DOES THANK YOU.

WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THAT IN A LITTLE BIT. SO YEAH ABSOLUTELY OKAY. WASTEWATER.

WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS THAT YOU FEEL IS NECESSARY TO. WE MET THE YOUNG MAN THAT HAS BEEN HIRED TO WORK WITH US, THE YOUNG ATTORNEY FROM AND WE LOOKED AT THE ENGINEERING GROUP THAT WE VERY POSITIVE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING GREAT. OKAY. I DO WANT TO SAY A AND P ALSO MET. YES, MA'AM. I'M SORRY. THAT WAS EXCELLENT. BEFORE WE GET INTO BIG PARKS AND REC THING, YOU KNOW WE CAN GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD AND DO YOUR AMP. DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING, APRIL? OR YOU WANT ME TO GO AHEAD? WE JUST BASICALLY ARE WORKING ON OUR FIRST DRAFT OF OUR BYLAWS, AND IT WAS OUR MAIN FOCUS, I GUESS. SO ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD, APRIL? NO. MISS. COUNCIL MEMBER BRODERICK. OKAY. PARKS AND RECREATION COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS IS THE CHAIR OF THAT. HE IS NOT HERE. THERE ARE TWO. WELL, A COUPLE UPDATES AND THEN ALSO SOME DISCUSSION POINTS THAT WE WANTED TO GET YOU GUYS INPUT ON. SO. LIKE IF YOU'LL PLEASE LEAD THE DISCUSSION FOR US. THANK YOU ALL. WHAT WE DID WAS WE BROUGHT A COUPLE TALKING POINTS TO THE PARKS AND REC COMMITTEE, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUOUSLY DO, TO DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT OF POLICIES, PROCEDURES AND WHAT WE DO AS A CITY, WHAT WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SOME OF THE DISCUSSION POINTS WERE A CODE OF CONDUCT FOR OUR FACILITIES, AS WELL AS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO WITHIN OUR PROGRAMS. WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR, SUCH AS IF INDIVIDUALS DO NOT FOLLOW THE CODE OF CONDUCT, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? SO WE'RE GOING TO PUT OUTLINE OFFICIAL STEPS IN THERE. IF A PARENT OUT AT THE BASEBALL COMPLEX DOESN'T FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE CODE OF CONDUCT WHICH THEY SIGNED PRIOR TO THEIR CHILDREN'S ENROLLMENT, WE KIND OF CIRCLE BACK TO THAT. WE HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HAVING CODE OF CONDUCT FOR GOING INTO THE SENIOR CENTER, THE REC CENTER, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. IT JUST KIND OF ALLOWS PEOPLE TO AT LEAST ACCEPT PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY FOR WHEN THEY COME IN, IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO FOLLOW THE RULES. SO WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT A CODE OF CONDUCT THAT WE HOPEFULLY IMPLEMENT ACROSS THE BOARD.

IT'S PRETTY CONSISTENT AS FAR AS THAT GOES. WE HAVE. ALSO THE TENNIS CENTER. WE'VE CHANGED THE OPERATIONS OF THE TENNIS CENTER. REVENUE WAS DOWN TO REALLY 5000, LESS THAN 5000 FOR

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AND I THINK HE'S EXCITED ABOUT POTENTIALLY HAVING MORE PEOPLE ACTUALLY COME OUT AND PLAY OUT THERE THAT HE MAY BE ABLE TO GET SOME MORE LESSONS. HE HE WAS EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE AND BE THE THE INDIVIDUAL THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE. AS A TENNIS PRO, WE DON'T WANT MULTIPLE PROS TO COME OUT THERE, SO WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE IN AGREEMENT WITH HIM, BUT IT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO GO OUT THERE AND PLAY TENNIS IF THEY WANT TO. IF THEY WANT TO HOST AN EVENT OUT THERE, THEY RENT IT, JUST LIKE IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO RENT IT FOR A BALL TOURNAMENT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF THAT. THERE WAS THREE PART TIME EMPLOYEES THAT WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT. THEY'VE BEEN OFFERED OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO STAY EMPLOYED, ONES ACCEPTED AT THE REC CENTER.

TWO ARE STILL OR ONE DECIDED THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORK, SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ANOTHER 1ST MAY COME BACK IN THE SUMMERTIME AND HELP US OUT AT THE BALLPARK. SO THEY DID HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO STAY. SO THEY WEREN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, CASTED ASIDE, WHICH I'M EXTREMELY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. SO AND WE WENT INTO AN INTERESTING POINT OF CLASSIFICATION FOR OUR SENIOR AGE GROUP FOR MEMBERSHIPS. AND AT THE SENIOR CENTER, WE WE ASKED CURRENTLY IT'S 50 IS THE SENIOR AGE FOR SENIOR EIGHT. AND BEING ABLE TO GO TO THE SENIOR CENTER. SO WE ASKED IF THAT IS STILL THE APPROPRIATE AGE THAT WE WANT. AND WE BROUGHT UP OPTIONS OF WE WANT TO GO TO 60 TO 65. A LOT OF THE THINGS ACROSS THE CITY WERE OTHER CITIES WERE 65. SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT GRANDFATHERING IN IF WE DO CHANGE IT TO 65, THE PEOPLE THAT WILL HONOR THEIR CURRENT CONTRACTS OR THEIR CURRENT MEMBERSHIPS, WHATEVER IT IS TO IF THEY HAVE A MONTHLY MEMBERSHIP, WE, YOU KNOW, GIVE THEM THAT TIME, MAYBE AN ADDITIONAL MONTH IF WE CHOOSE TO DO THAT OR IF THEY HAVE AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP, HONOR THAT UNTIL THE NEXT MEMBERSHIP DUE IS COMING UP. SO THAT'S SOME DISCUSSION. WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF WE WANT TO KEEP IT AT 50 A SENIORS OR MOVE IT TO 65, WHICH MOST CITIES DO. SO I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THAT. WE DID GET SOME GOOD NEWS IN THAT WE ARE IN OUR FINAL STAGES OF BEING ABLE TO GET THE SILVER SNEAKERS PROGRAM IN THERE, SO THAT WILL BE THAT WILL BE HUGE FOR A LOT OF THE SILVER SNEAKERS SNEAKER. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT IT WAS. YES. AND THAT JULIE'S TRIED SEVERAL TIMES. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW. I THINK WE'RE FIXING TO CLOSE THE DEAL ON THAT DEAL. YEP. SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO OFFER THAT. WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. I KNOW THE RESIDENTS ARE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. ONCE THAT'S OFFICIAL, WE WILL CERTAINLY BROADCAST THAT OUT. AND PART OF THE REASON WHY I THINK THAT THIS KIND OF CAME ABOUT TOO, IS IT'S LIKE. OKAY, A 30 YEAR OLD SHOULD PAY THIS RATE, BUT A 50 YEAR OLD SHOULD PAY THIS RATE. WHEN A 50 YEAR OLD IS PROBABLY FAR MORE ESTABLISHED IN THEIR CAREERS AND HAS MORE EXPENDABLE INCOME THAN LIKE A 30 YEAR OLD. AND I JUST DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE REALLY CONSIDER A A 50 YEAR OLD TO BE A SENIOR CENTER, A SENIOR CITIZEN. I KNOW THAT AARP, WHICH IS A MAKE WORK ORGANIZATION, NOT MAKE WORK, EXCUSE ME, A FOR PROFIT ORGANIZATION. THEY DO, BUT THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT TYPICALLY SO. BUT I THINK THE FEEDBACK WE NEED TO GET FROM YOU GUYS IS WHAT DO YOU THINK THE APPROPRIATE AGE WILL BE? AND THIS IS NOT AFFECT IN ANY WAY. THE SPECIAL SENIOR MEMBERSHIP RATE THAT LIKE WE DO WITH THE DURING THE DAY, THE OFF HOURS, THIS THIS IS NOT WE JUST WORKED TWO YEARS AGO TO HAVE A SENIOR RATE AT THE BILL HARMON REC CENTER. IF THEY WOULD COME IN THE NON-BUSY HOURS LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING SEPARATE FROM THAT. AND THEY, THEY AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT I DON'T WANT US TO BE HAVING TALKING BOTH SIDES OF OUR MOUTH, THOUGH. AND THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME, BECAUSE WE DID THAT WITH THE IDEA OF HAVING THEM AT THE AGE OF 50 IS WHEN WE STARTED THAT, AND I BROUGHT IT FROM THE SENIOR CITIZEN COMMITTEE TO THE COUNCIL. YEAH, THAT'S AND THAT'S THE CURRENT AGE. THAT'S THE CURRENT AGE AT THE SENIOR CENTER. AND SO THAT'S AND THAT'S VERY CONSISTENT. YEAH. WELL AND THAT WAS WHY IT WAS WITH THAT 50. BUT I, I THINK THE, THE POINT WITH THAT COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS IS THAT'S REALLY GEARED TO THOSE THAT ARE RETIRED. THEY'RE ON FIXED INCOMES. THEY'RE AVAILABLE TO COME DURING THAT TIME WHEN MOST PEOPLE ARE AT WORK. IT WAS AN INCENTIVE TO GET MORE PEOPLE TO THE REC CENTER DURING THAT TIME, THE TIME SO THEY WOULD NOT BE THE CROWD IN THE 5 TO 7 OR THE 6 A.M. GOD AWFUL TIME IN THE MORNING. CAN YOU SPEAK TO WHAT CHANGES WOULD HAPPEN? JUST THE

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OKAY. AND JUST AND IF WE WANT TO KEEP IT AT 50 WE CAN KEEP IT AT 50. I MEAN THAT'S IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT ARE WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO IS 50 OUR SENIOR IS HOW WE LOOK AT SENIORS. OR DO WE WANT TO CHANGE AT 65 OR 60, YOU KNOW, OR 60 OR YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. I MEAN, IT'S RIGHT. AND WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THE OTHER BECAUSE I WORKED WITH YOU ON THAT WHEN WE DID THAT FOR THAT 50 PIECE AND WE CHECKED WITH THE, WITH THE NORTH, LITTLE NORTH, WELL, NORTH LITTLE ROCK, NORTH LITTLE ROCK, I THINK IT'S, IT'S 50. THERE'S A REC CENTER THAT'S NORTH LITTLE ROCK THAT IS 50. BUT THEY DON'T THEY DON'T HAVE A POOL. THEY DON'T HAVE OTHER THINGS LIKE WE DO. CABOT I WANT TO SAY CABOT IN JACKSONVILLE. WE'RE BOTH 65 AND THEY'RE MORE SIMILAR TO OUR FACILITY. I MEAN, IT'S THE ONE BY LEHMAN LIBRARY, THE NORTH LITTLE ROCK REC CENTER. THAT'S THE THEY HAVE THE HEY CENTER. YEAH. YES. AND THAT'S WHERE THEY HAVE 50. THEY HAVE A POOL. BUT YEAH, BUT THAT THAT IS ONLY FOR THE ONE. THE HEY CENTER'S ONLY FOR SENIORS. IT'S NORTH LITTLE ROCK IS DIFFERENT. THEIR WHOLE SETUP THAN WHAT OURS IS.

MY POINT WAS WE USE THAT FOR OUR COMPARISON. WHEN WE DID THE 50. WELL, THE 50 ACTUALLY THAT'S THAT'S THE 50 HAD BEEN AROUND THE 50 HAVE BEEN FOR A REALLY LONG TIME. THAT'S NOT WHEN IT WAS CHANGED. WE OPENED IN WHAT, 24 YEARS AGO, 26 YEARS AGO, WHATEVER IT WAS, THAT'S IF YOU WERE 50. YOU COULD COME DURING THOSE OFF TIMES AND GET THAT RIGHT. YEAH. AND YOU GOT A DISCOUNTED RATE. BUT YOU CAN ONLY VISIT IF YOU COME DURING THOSE HOURS. IT'S IT'S A $50 FOR THE WHOLE YEAR. SO I MEAN IT'S IT'S NOT A ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP, IT'S NOT A MONTHLY.

SO IT'S LET'S SAY IF A SENIOR COMES IN. SO IF THEY CAME AT 5 P.M. THE CARDENE OR SOMETHING OKAY. SO SO THEY CAN'T COME IN THEN. CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT. OR THEY COULD OR THEY PAY A DAY OR THEY CAN PAY THE DAYS PASS OKAY. AND IF THEY SOMETIMES A LOT OF THEM IF THEY WHICH WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. YEAH. BUT IF THEY SOME PEOPLE HAVE ALSO CHANGED. MY SCHEDULE HAS CHANGED. SO NOW I NEED TO COME IN THE EVENING. SO THEY'VE THEY'VE ALTERED THEIR MEMBERSHIP. OKAY. SO I WANT TO ADDRESS THE OTHER ISSUE. IF WE'RE IF WE CAN IT'S THE ABOUT THE ISSUE OF THE SENIOR CITIZEN CENTER. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE SHOULD LIKE LIMIT I MEAN HOW ARE WE GOING TO LIMIT AGE OVER THERE AS FAR AS WE'RE SAYING? ARE WE SAYING THAT WE WANT TO LIMIT WHAT THE AGE IS OVER THERE? THIS IS THIS IS JUST UP TO YOU GUYS IN TERMS OF IF THERE'S ALREADY. I MEAN, IT ALREADY IS LIMITED IN TERMS OF AGE, I GUESS THAT I MEAN, ARE WE SAYING I'M ASKING BLAKE, I GUESS BECAUSE YOU'RE THE PARKS DEPARTMENT HEAD. ARE YOU IN IN. SHELBY'S NOT HERE. SO I CAN ASK HIM. SO WHO ELSE IS ON THE PARKS COMMITTEE? Y'ALL ARE. OKAY. LET ME ASK YOU LADIES. SO ARE Y'ALL ASKING THAT WE RAISE THE AGE OF WHO'S ALLOWED TO GO TO THE SENIOR CITIZEN CENTER AS FAR AS, LIKE, TO PLAY, LIKE THEY GO THERE FOR THE BINGO OR CARDS OR PAINTING, AND AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE TOGETHER. THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT AS AS DISCUSSION. YEAH. THE MAIN DISCUSSION WAS OVER THE HARMAN CENTER. OVER THE HARMAN CENTER. OKAY, OKAY. MY SUGGESTION WAS, I MEAN, ME BEING SLIGHTLY OVER 50, IT WAS KIND OF A, YOU KNOW, OH, YOU DIDN'T WANT TO BE SEEN.

I'M NOT I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO CLAIM TO BE A SENIOR. YOU DON'T LOOK LIKE A SENIOR. SO. BUT MY SUGGESTION AND JUST TO BE TRANSPARENT IN THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, IF WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING IN THAT 50 TO, YOU KNOW, CALL IT SOMETHING ELSE, YOU KNOW, NOT NECESSARILY A SENIOR CATEGORY. WE WERE WE WERE STARTING TO GET PRETTY MUCH IN THE WEEDS WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PRICING CATEGORIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND WE HAD ASKED FOR, YOU KNOW, SOME ACTUAL NUMBERS OF WHO FALLS IN WHAT CATEGORY. WE DIDN'T REALLY SETTLE ON A THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO BRING TO NOW, THAT'S I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO ALSO IS BRING US BRING STUFF UP FOR DISCUSSION POINTS TO ALLOW MORE INPUT INTO DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I THINK I THINK THAT'S KIND OF THE POINT OF THE COMMITTEE ITSELF. AND I THINK WE HAVE WE'RE LOOKING TO DO A BETTER JOB OF GETTING MORE INVOLVEMENT IN THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS, ESPECIALLY. AND I THINK I THINK OF BRINGING SOMETHING RIGHT, LIKE, NO, I MEAN, THIS IS THIS IS WHY IT'S JUST A DISCUSSION POINT FOR YOU GUYS. BUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW IT'S, YOU KNOW, A RATE BETWEEN 19 AND 49 VERSUS

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HAVE ANY OF THE FEES SINCE YOU'RE DISCUSSING THE FEES ON THE. THE BILL REC CENTER, HAVE ALL THE FEES REMAIN THE SAME THIS YEAR? YES, THEY HAVE. AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, I PULLED THIS UP. THE LAST TIME THEY WERE CHANGED WAS ACTUALLY 2018. OKAY. SO IT'S IT'S BEEN QUITE SOME TIME. SO THAT'S CHANGED. WAS THE ADDITION OF THAT SENIOR DISCOUNTED RATE MEMBERSHIP. WOW

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THANKS BLAKE. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE ITEM THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM TEN, WHICH IS THE

[10. An ordinance amending the Retirement Committee structure for the City of Sherwood; providing for oversight of the City’s 457(b) deferred compensation plan; and for other purposes (Mayor Heye-Townsell) (READ 1 time at Dec. 2025 meeting)]

THEY DO NOT NEED AND WE DON'T DON'T NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT ANYMORE. BUT WE DO WANT TO STILL HAVE A COMMITTEE THAT MEETS ONCE A YEAR AND POSSIBLY TWICE, BUT WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE AS FORMAL AS IT HAS BEEN. AND THAT'S MY REQUEST. WHAT WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO BE OVERSIGHTING FOR? THE LACK OF I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE GOOD WORD WOULD BE. WE HAVE TO HAVE BANK.

OKAY. WHO IS NOW OUR THIRD PARTY VENDOR, AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE THAT WE ARE HAPPY WITH WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THE EMPLOYEES MONEY SO TO SPEAK. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE PROPER VENDOR LOOKING OVER OUR 457 AND AS WELL AS ANY LEGAL ITEMS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE IN THE LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS, WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE TO CHANGE ANYTHING LEGALLY. SO THAT'S THAT'S REALLY THE OVERSIGHT. WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO AWAY WITH THE RETIREMENT COMMITTEE, PERIOD. SO WE AT LEAST WANT TO MEET ONCE A YEAR JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL DUE DILIGENCE. REALLY, I JUST DIDN'T WANT THIS COMMITTEE TO BE PERCEIVED AS HAVING OVERSIGHT INTO WHAT INVESTMENTS ARE BEING MADE. OH, NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT. BUT THAT'S NOT REAL CLEAR IN HERE. OKAY. BUT ALSO, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, A HIGH NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES CHOSE ONE FUND. IS THAT STILL THE SAME? IS THAT STILL GOING ON? A HIGH NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES CHOSE ONE PARTICULAR FUND FOR THEIR MONIES, AND THAT WE I REMEMBER US KEEPING AN EYE ON THAT PARTICULAR FUND. THAT'S STILL THE SAME. WHAT BANK OKAY DOES AS WELL AS WE ALSO HAVE AN ATTORNEY ON THE COMMITTEE. THEY COME FORWARD TO THE COMMITTEE OR ME AND LET US KNOW WHEN A FUND IS NOT DOING WELL. AND THEN WE DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO. THE COMMITTEE DECIDED WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO DO AWAY WITH THAT, THAT WILL THAT WILL STILL HAPPEN. THAT'S WHAT I'LL REMEMBER THE COMMITTEE DOING. SO I THINK THE COMMITTEE STILL NEEDS TO MEET AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR, I AGREE. SURE. I MEAN, I MUST STAND CORRECTED IN THE BOTTOM OF SECTION THREE. IT DOES SAY THAT WE SHALL NOT HAVE FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY WITH REGARD TO THE MANAGING OF AN INDIVIDUAL ACCOUNT, BUT IT DIDN'T SAY THEY COULDN'T BE DIRECTING. OKAY. BUT BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY'RE OVERALL ABOUT WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING ALL THEIR CLIENTS, JUST 457 B IS WHAT WE HAD IN SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO I KNOW ABOUT THEM.

SO I'M NOT SURE THAT WE HAD OVERSIGHT COMMITTEES AT THE STATE LEVEL. I THINK WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE OVERSIGHT OVER GENERAL OVERSIGHT OF THE WHOLE PLAN, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S GOOD PRACTICE. AND OUR ATTORNEY WITH FOUR OF US, HE RECOMMENDED WE WE MEET AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR AS WELL. SO I DEFINITELY THINK WE NEED TO KEEP THE MEETINGS JUST ONCE A YEAR, NOT EVERY QUARTER, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE BUSINESS AND WE OKAY. MY POINT EXACTLY. YEAH. AND WE HAD ASKED, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE IN THERE CITY COUNCIL, YOU KNOW REPRESENTATIVE AS WELL. I'VE ALREADY REACHED OUT TO COUNCIL MEMBER BRODERICK BECAUSE SHE'S CURRENTLY ON IT. SHE'S WILLING TO CONTINUE, YOU KNOW, BEING THE COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE. SO OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S ALL RIGHT.

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TOWNSEND. TOWNSEND. TOWNSEND. WHAT? I'M SORRY. I WAS BEING DISTRACTED. TOWNSEND. WHAT DID I SAY? TOWNSVILLE. YOU DID? OH, OKAY. WELL, THERE YOU GO. SORRY. TOWNS IN ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

WADE. TREAT MCCULLOUGH I BRODERICK I BROOKS I THOMAS WILLIAMS I TOWNSEND I AND I ALSO VOTE I ON THAT TO BECAUSE IT'S NECESSARY TO ADVANCE A READING. OKAY. YES. IT'S GOTTA HAVE SIX. YEAH. THAT WAS SIX RIGHT. YES. YES THAT WAS SIX WITH THE MAYOR. YES. IT'S GOTTA BE A SUPERMAJORITY. AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE RETIREMENT COMMITTEE STRUCTURE FOR THE CITY OF SHERWOOD, PROVIDING FOR OVERSIGHT OF THE CITY'S 457 BE DEFERRED COMPENSATION PLAN AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. THIRD READING MOVE FOR ADOPTION. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR ADOPTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER BROOKS AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MCCULLOUGH. WADE TREAT MCCULLOUGH I BROOKS I I'M SORRY BRODERICK I, I READ THOSE BACKWARDS BRODERICK BROOKS I THOMAS WILLIAMS I TOWNSEND I I SAW THE BEES AND TOWNSVILLE I.

AND THAT GIVES YOU THE SIX. YES. ALL RIGHT SO THAT PASSES WITH SIX YESES THREE ABSENT. WE HAVE

[11. An ordinance amending ordinances 840, 1014, 2001, and 2236 regarding the contributed benefit paid to eligible retired elected eligible officials and for other purposes (Council Member Brooks)]

WE DISCOVERED OTHERWISE WHEN. THE PREVIOUS MAYOR CALLED UP AND WANTED TO KNOW WHERE HER $50 ADDITIONAL $50 WAS, AND SO OUR HR DIRECTOR WAS LIKE, SHE THOUGHT IT WAS JUST COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL. SO THAT THEN HAD US LOOKING INTO IT. AND IT TURNS OUT THAT IT WAS FOR ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS, INCLUDING. MAYOR, CITY CLERK, JUDGE, CITY ATTORNEY, ETCETERA. SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS OUT THERE BECAUSE I, I DIDN'T I CERTAINLY WOULD NOT HAVE WANTED TO HAVE MISLED ANYBODY IN TERMS OF SAYING THAT. IT WAS JUST THAT IS CORRECT.

YEAH. BECAUSE I, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO ALL CURRENTLY GETS IT. THE ONLY PEOPLE I KNOW ARE THE 11 CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE ON THE BILL LIST. SO I CAN I GUESS JILL KNOWS FOR I WOULD

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SHE PULLS OUT A LIST. 11. WELL, I KNOW THERE'S 11 COUNCIL. WE KNOW THERE'S 11 COUNCIL PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY'RE ON THE BILL LIST. YEAH, THIS IS PROBABLY PUBLIC INFORMATION, BUT I WON'T NAME NAMES UNLESS YOU ALL WANT ME TO. WE HAVE 11 RETIRED CITY COUNCIL AND ONE RETIRED MAYOR, AND ONE OR NOT RETIRED. AND ONE FORMER, I GUESS, RETIRED CITY CLERK. YEAH. OKAY. SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S 12. THERE'S THAT MEANS THERE'S 13 PEOPLE THAT ARE CURRENTLY RECEIVING THIS. YES.

OKAY. YES. AND THE REASON WE HAD TO DO THIS ORDINANCE IS THAT WE MADE THE DECISION TO DO IT IN THE BUDGET HEARING, BUT SINCE THIS WAS RULED BY ORDINANCE, WE HAD TO CLEAN UP THE ORDINANCE, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. SO THE ORDINANCE HAS BEEN READ, RIGHT. SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION. WE PLACE IT ON SECOND READING. SECOND. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BROOKS AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BRODERICK. CAN WE DISCUSS THE AGE OF IT? SURE. SO THE AGE WHAT IS THE CURRENT AGE? 55, I BELIEVE I DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE OLD. I THINK THAT'S I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE DISCUSSED BEFORE. WE COULD RAISE THE AGE. I MEAN, IF YOU'RE WANTING TO DO THAT, IT'S. AND JUST GRANDFATHER. EVERYBODY IN. OKAY. CAN I BREAK IN? YOU HAVE TO BE YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE YOU CAN IMPACT ANYBODY THAT'S ALREADY A RECIPIENT. OH, THAT'S RIGHT. WE HAVE TO. WE CAN'T IMPACT ANYBODY THAT'S ELIGIBLE. BUT STILL SERVING AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, IT CAN ONLY BE PROSPECTIVE IN NATURE. YEAH. AND AND SPEAKING OF THAT, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCULLOUGH, I WILL BE BRINGING A ANOTHER AMENDMENT NEXT MONTH. CITY ATTORNEY COBB AND I HAD DISCUSSED THIS. AND IT DOES REFER TO THAT PARTICULAR THING WHERE IT WILL NOT AFFECT ANYBODY THAT'S CURRENTLY SERVING OR ANYBODY THAT IS CURRENTLY RECEIVING. IS IS THERE ANY OTHER I'M SORRY, THERE'S A LAW. I REMEMBER STEVEN I TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WITH REGARD TO YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE BENEFITS OF SOMEONE ALREADY IN OFFICE. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHY YOU GUYS, US GUYS WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM AND NOW WOULD BE A GOOD TIME IF THERE'S ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER. BROOKS HAS SAID THAT SHE'S WORKING ON BRINGING SOMETHING. IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE, IT'D BE A GOOD TIME TO LET HER KNOW. COUNCIL MEMBER.

EXCUSE ME. WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER COLA, WHEN I TALKED TO CITY ATTORNEY COBB ABOUT IT, HE SAID IT'D BE EASIER TO PASS THIS AND THEN BRING AN AMENDMENT UP OR. YEAH, SINCE YOU GUYS DISCUSSED THIS AND THIS WAS MORE OR LESS ACQUIESCED TO AT THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, THIS IS JUST THE FINAL STEP TO TO MAKE THAT, HE SAID IT'D BE EASIER TO DO SOMETHING NEXT MONTH AND JUST GET THIS PASSED. AND NOT TO CONFUSE MATTERS. THAT'S WHAT HE WAS. I ALREADY HAD SAID SOMETHING TO HIM. NOW YOU'RE REMINDING ME, BECAUSE WE MET WAY BACK IN DECEMBER, LIKE THE MIDDLE OF DECEMBER. BUT IT WAS TO THAT MATTER THAT WE NEEDED TO RAISE THE AGE, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF AND NOT IT WOULD BE FOR ANYONE THAT WAS ELECTED STARTING JANUARY 1ST OF NEXT YEAR. YES. SO IT WOULD NOT IMPACT ANYBODY THAT'S CURRENTLY SERVING. AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE, PLEASE LET COUNCIL MEMBER BROOKS KNOW NOW. SO YOU KNOW, THAT WAY. IT'S AN OPEN DISCUSSION AND IT WOULD SAVE TIME FOR I DON'T THINK THAT I MEAN, YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS. I DO KNOW HOW YOU FEEL. YOU KNOW, I THIS IS ONE OF THE THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I VOTED NO ON THE OVERALL BUDGET. I DON'T LIKE THE I DON'T LIKE THE VERBIAGE OF RETIRED ELECTED OFFICIALS WHEN IT COMES TO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. I KNOW WE HAVE HAD SOME LONG STANDING MEMBERS, BUT YOU DON'T RETIRE OUT OF THIS POSITION. YOU EITHER MAKE THE DECISION NOT TO RUN AGAIN OR YOU ARE VOTED OUT OF OFFICE. THAT BOTHERS ME. I THINK THE INTENT OF WHAT IT WAS FOR AND WHAT IT IS NOW ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT. BUT I MEAN, I, I THIS WHOLE THING JUST BAFFLES ME. WELL, AND I AGREE WITH MEREDITH, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, I FEEL THE SAME WAY. ALSO VOTED NO ON THE BUDGET BECAUSE OF THIS. BUT WITH ADDITIONAL PEOPLE, THAT INCREASES THE AMOUNTS THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING PREVIOUSLY. RIGHT. IF WE'VE GOT

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AND IT JUST IT LEAVES ME WITH A FEELING OF THERE WERE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WERE VOTED AGAINST THAT WERE MORE BENEFICIAL TO OUR CITIZENS THAN THIS. SO WE ARE ONLY TALKING ABOUT $1,000 OR SO. I MEAN, OUT OF 33 MILLION. NO, I YEAH. AND I WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF DOLLARS AND I AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS JUST BOTHERS ME I KNOW COULD BE CHANGED. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD IF YOU BRING WITH MR. COBB NEXT MONTH, YOU COULD CHANGE. WE COULD REMOVE THE WORD RETIRED AND TO JUST SAY ELIGIBLE. WELL, AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT FORMER FORMER ELECTED YOU ALL WANT TO CONTINUE ELIGIBLE. YES. ELECTED OFFICIALS. YES. YES. I MEAN, I CAN SEE THAT ALL THE SUGGESTIONS I'M STILL I MEAN, YOU'RE STILL NOT GOING TO HAVE MY VOTE, BUT OKAY, OKAY THEN LET ME ASK YOU THIS. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT THAT THE MAJORITY OF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE IN 2027? I KNOW THAT OR IS IT IN AGE THING OR IS IT MORE THAN AN AGE THING? IS THERE? I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE. ANY ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT ARE WHERE THEIR RETIREMENT IS ALREADY MANDATED UNDER, YOU KNOW, THE STATE. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHEN THIS WAS CREATED, WHY IT WAS CREATED.

I FEEL THE INTENT OF WHERE IT IS NOW IS DIFFERENT. BUT TODAY'S VOTE, WE'RE JUST CODIFYING WHAT THE MAJORITY ALREADY PASSED, RIGHT? SO I MEAN, 2027 DISCUSSIONS. YEAH. I MEAN LIKE MY, MY, MY OPINION REALLY ISN'T GOING TO MATTER BECAUSE MY VOTE IS STILL GOING TO STAY THE SAME. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST ME BEING HONEST. I JUST DON'T FEEL THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME OF WHERE THIS CITY IS, THAT OUR CITIZENS TAX DOLLARS SHOULD BE GOING FOR THINGS LIKE THIS, THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS ON IT. WELL, WELL, NO. SO WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO ADVANCE IT. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF, COUNCILMEMBER TOWNSEND. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANTED TO OKAY. CAN WE HAVE ROLL CALL THEN? WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, THE MOTION IS TO ADVANCE IT TO THE SECOND READING. OKAY. WADE. TREAT. MCCULLOUGH. NO. BRODERICK I BROOKS, I THOMAS. WILLIAMS. I TOWNSEND. I OKAY. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TO ADVANCE TO THE THE NEXT READING. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE. SO STEVE, CAN YOU TELL ME IF WE READ THIS IN FEBRUARY AND IT PASSES IN FEBRUARY, THEN THE CITY WILL JUST GO BACK. AND THE ORDINANCE SAYS THAT IS EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, 2026. IF YOU PASS IT, IT'S RETROACTIVE. YOU VOTED. YOU COULD MAKE IT PASS IF YOU WANTED TO. I CAN'T, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SIX, OKAY. AND THAT WOULD ONLY GIVE IT FIVE. HAVE SIX TO GO TO THE NEXT READING. GOTCHA. SO IT'S NOT THAT IT DOESN'T ADVANCE. IT JUST DOESN'T I MEAN, WE DON'T ADVANCE THE READING NOW, BUT IT COMES BACK UP AGAIN NEXT MONTH IN FEBRUARY. IN MARCH. THEY'RE JUST GOING TO GET THREE MONTHS IF IT PASSED, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. WELL THANK YOU FOR VOTING TO ADVANCE IT. I MEAN I MEAN, I'LL HELP Y'ALL GET THAT GET IT THROUGH, BUT I'M ALL

[12. A resolution reappointing Eric Fleming to serve on the Sherwood Wastewater Committee (Mayor Heye-Townsell)]

SO MOVE. SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS TO PASS A RESOLUTION. AND A SECOND BY. WAS IT COUNCIL MEMBER BROOKS? YES IT WAS ROLL CALL PLEASE.

WADE. TREAT MCCULLOUGH I BRODERICK BROOKS I THOMAS WILLIAMS I TOWNSEND I SORRY THE MOTION PASSES WITH FIVE YES THREE ABSENT OKAY NEXT UP WE HAVE A ANOTHER RESOLUTION IF

[13. A resolution expressing the willingness of City of Sherwood Arkansas to utilize federal-aid transportation alternatives program or recreational trails program funds (Mayor Heye Townsell, Council Members Brooks and Williams)]

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THAT'S WHAT THAT MESSAGE. RIGHT. WE DON'T HAVE IT SPECIFIED IN TERMS OF THE THE BUDGET.

THERE'S A BIT OF A PROCESS. FIRST YOU'VE GOT TO GET THE GRANT AND THEN YOU GET A THEN THEY ASSIGN US THROUGH ON CALL ENGINEERING THROUGH METRO PLAN. SO IT DOESN'T HAPPEN INSTANTLY.

AND THEN THE ENGINEERING AND THE BILLING STARTS WITH THAT. BUT CERTAINLY IF THAT IS SOMETHING TO WHERE THE WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE THAT WON'T BE COVERED UNDER LIKE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR EXAMPLE, WHICH WOULD BE UNDER, YOU KNOW, STREET FUNDS, THEN WE WOULD CERTAINLY HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL TO ALLOCATE MONEY FOR IT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OH AMOUNTS PLEASE. FLOOR IS YOURS. FINDLEY. YES OF COURSE. THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO THE MY ESTIMATE FOR THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT THE BILL WOULD BE FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES TO DESIGN THE TRAIL WAS 477,606. THAT NOW DOING A COST ESTIMATE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION IS A LOT EASIER THAN DOING A COST ESTIMATE FOR THE ENGINEERING. DIFFERENT ENGINEERING FIRMS CAN CHARGE VERY DIFFERENT AMOUNTS, BUT THAT'S MY ESTIMATE. SO THAT WAS THAT WAS THE ESTIMATE THAT I BASED THIS GRANT ON. THE MAXIMUM AWARD FOR THIS GRANT IS 335,000. SO THE REMAINDER WOULD POTENTIALLY BE WHAT THE IN ADDITION TO THE 20. NO. SO NOT IN ADDITION TO OKAY. JUST SO WE WHAT THIS THE THE APPLICATION ASKS FOR 335,000. GOTCHA. AND SO THE REMAINDER, WHICH IS AROUND 30% IS AS THE GRANT IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN, IS HOW MUCH POTENTIALLY THE CITY WOULD WOULD NEED TO PAY. NOW I'M GOING TO REITERATE THAT IS A ROUGH ESTIMATE. IT WILL OBVIOUSLY, THE ACTUAL AMOUNT WILL BE THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT IS NEGOTIATED WITH THE ENGINEERING FIRM THAT DESIGNS IT, MINUS WHATEVER AWARD IS GIVEN BY METRO PLAN. DID YOU DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SORRY 177,000. IS YOUR ESTIMATE FOR THE DESIGN OR YOUR ESTIMATE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION? NO, THE DESIGN, THE ENGINEERING DESIGN. SO SO IF WE GOT THE 335, WE WOULD OWE ROUGHLY 142,000 FOR DESIGN. CORRECT. WHAT DO YOU THINK? SORRY. I'M SORRY. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE CONSTRUCTION WILL BE? I HAVE THAT NUMBER AGAIN. JUST AN ESTIMATE. LET ME FIND IT. FORGIVE ME. IT'S IN THESE PAGES SOMEWHERE. I SAW IT, I KNOW IT'S IN HERE SOMEWHERE.

AND I THINK PART OF THAT TOO, IS WHENEVER WE DO THESE IN FINDLAY, YOU CAN TELL ME IF I'M SPEAKING OUT OF TURN. BUT YOU, YOU TRY TO GO ON THE WHAT YOU CONSIDERED WOULD BE THE HIGH SIDE VERSUS THE LOW SIDE, AND YOU DON'T CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ENGINEERING, THEY MAY COME UP WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE ESTIMATING HOW THIS WOULD WORK. OKAY. I'LL GIVE YOU A ROUND NUMBER OF AROUND 6 MILLION. WOW.

THAT'S GOT A 20% CONTINGENCY IN IT. SO MY MY COST ESTIMATE WAS 5 MILLION. I ADDED A 20% CONTINGENCY BECAUSE THIS IS STILL VERY EARLY. AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD APPLY FOR A GRANT FOR AS WELL. SO AND I'VE GOT THE MY FITBIT SAYS THAT WHEN WE WALK THAT THAT'S ABOUT A 2.4 MILES BUT WE DON'T WALK. BUT LET'S BACK IN. WE WE DOUBLE BACK. SO IT'S NOT REALLY THAT LONG. SO THAT'S WHAT IS YOUR LENGTH OF THAT THING. YOU KNOW I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO MY COMPUTER TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, OKAY. WHICH I'D BE HAPPY TO DO, BUT WE BECAUSE WE DOUBLE BACK. SO IT'S REALLY NOT THAT LONG BECAUSE WE, WE BACK AND FORTH IT CAN WE DO TAKE ALL THE DIFFERENT PATHS. YES WE DO. DON'T LEAVE ANY STONE UNTURNED SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A FULL COUNCIL. CAN WE JUST READ THIS ONE TIME? THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY. WELL, IT'S A BIG COMMITMENT. IT'S A RESOLUTION. IT'S IT'S A RESOLUTION. AND I

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YOU KNOW, FOR THE ENGINEERING OF IT. BUT THIS IS JUST KIND OF THAT FIRST STEP. IF YOU GET THE ENGINEERING FIRST, YOU'VE GOT TO DO ALL THE ENGINEERING AND THEN YOU ARE HIGHLY MORE LIKELY TO THEN GET A LARGE GRANT FOR YOUR BUILD IF THEY'VE ALREADY INVESTED IN THE ENGINEERING. SO WE DID APPLY FOR THIS GRANT LAST YEAR. YES. NOT THE SAME. WELL, YES. THROUGH A DIFFERENT AGENCY. WE'VE APPLIED FOR SAME GRANT BUT THROUGH THE IT WAS THROUGH ARDOT. CORRECT. SO WE'VE ALREADY VOTED TO DO THIS ONCE BEFORE. IT'S WHAT I RECALL. CORRECT I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT. AND WHERE IS THE 6 MILLION COMING FROM IF WE GET IT. YEAH. BUT THAT'S THAT. THAT WOULD BE THE THAT'S ONCE AGAIN THE, THE NEXT STEP IN IT. YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNLESS YOU HAVE IT ENGINEERED. YOU CAN'T EVEN APPLY FOR. THEN YOU CAN APPLY FOR A CONSTRUCTION GRANT.

CORRECT FOR THAT. AND IF I COULD SPEAK TO THAT I'D, I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT PROBABLY GIVEN IF MY COST ESTIMATE IS CORRECT. NOW BY THE TIME YOU GET TO THE END OF THE THE ENGINEERING PROCESS, THE COST ESTIMATE FOR CONSTRUCTION WILL BE MUCH MORE ACCURATE THAN MINE, BECAUSE WE'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S BEING BUILT. BUT IF MY COST ESTIMATE IS CORRECT, I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT THIS WOULD PROBABLY GET BUILT IN TWO PHASES. AND WHEN DOES THE GRANT PROCESS CLOSE? I MEAN, THIS WON'T HOLD UNTIL FEBRUARY. IT WILL NOT. THE GRANT HAS ALREADY CLOSED. IT IS PENDING COUNCIL RESOLUTION. BUT AS A MATTER OF FACT, BECAUSE OF THE THE SHIFT IN TIME IN DECEMBER AND THEN THE GRANT WINDOW WAS ACTUALLY RELATIVELY SMALL. THE GRANT WINDOW HAS ALREADY CLOSED. SO THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY. WHEN DO WE FIND OUT ABOUT GRANTS LIKE THIS? WE FOUND OUT. WAS IT IT WAS DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR. I'M NOT SURE WHY. ORDINARILY THERE'S A LITTLE MORE. NOTICE. THE GRANT WINDOW THIS YEAR FROM METRO PLAN WAS RELATIVELY SHORT.

NORMALLY THERE'S A FEW MONTHS AT LEAST. LET ME ASK, WHEN WE WERE DOING THE BOND ISSUE, WHAT WAS THE ESTIMATE FOR? WE WERE ASKING FOR HINTS AND PART TRAIL. WE WERE THROWING THAT AS ONE OF THE PROJECTS. WHAT WAS THE THAT WAS THE AMOUNT THAT FINDLAY GAVE YOU THAT WE WERE ESTIMATING FOR, THAT WE WERE SETTING ASIDE FOR I COULDN'T I DON'T I DIDN'T REMEMBER IT BEING THAT HIGH, BUT I GUESS OKAY. WELL AND AND LIKE WE SAID, IT MAY NOT END UP BEING THAT HIGH, BUT YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE AND YOU HAVE TO START WITH THE ENGINEERING AND WITH IT. THE FACT THAT IT DOES RUN BESIDE A CREEK, AS WE KNOW, IF WE DON'T HAVE IT PROPERLY ENGINEERED, THEN IT'S GOING TO WASH AWAY. CORRECT. AND A LOT OF IT HAS WASHED AWAY. SO I WOULD JUST INVITE ANY COUNCIL MEMBER THAT HASN'T BEEN THERE, OR ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT HASN'T BEEN THERE TO TAKE A WALK. I MOVE FOR ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION. I'LL SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BROOKS AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS. ROLL CALL PLEASE. WADE. TREAT. MCCULLOUGH. I BRODERICK BROOKS I THOMAS WILLIAMS I TOWNSEND I CAN I ASK CAN I ASK A QUESTION JUST TO CLARIFY. SO IF WE WERE TO PASS THIS RESOLUTION BUT THE GRANT WE WERE NOT ACCEPTED OR NOT GRANTED THE GRANT, IT WOULD NOT MOVE FORWARD. CORRECT? CORRECT. YES, MA'AM. THIS IS JUST. YEAH. OR IT'S JUST FOR OUR APPLICATION. SO WE DID NOT. WELL, YOU YOU DIDN'T GET MCALLEN ON THE HOOK ON THE BACK END OF IT. OH, SORRY, I INTERRUPTED, SORRY. NO, SHE VOTED YES. YEAH. OH, THEN I CAN VOTE. YES. AND THEN THAT WOULD GIVE US THE FIVE THAT WE NEED. OKAY. IT DOESN'T PUT YOU ON THE HOOK ON THE BACK END IN TERMS OF CONSTRUCTION. THAT WOULD BE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GRANT.

THAT WOULD THEN HAVE TO GO BEFORE THE COUNCIL. BUT WHAT IT DOES DO IS IT ALLOWS US TO AT LEAST TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THESE MONEYS. WHILE THESE MONIES ARE AVAILABLE, IN ORDER TO GET ENGINEERING DONE ON IT, OR ELSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY DOING ALL OF IT. SO BASICALLY YOU'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF WHAT, 335,000, $35,000 FOR OUR RESIDENTS. SO NO, I MEAN SOMETHING DIFFERENT. I MEAN, EVEN FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT, SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE TO THAT TREE, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE DO KNOW THAT A RESIDENT HAD AN ACCIDENT THERE. SO YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S IT'S LITERALLY CRUMBLING. YES. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 14, A RESOLUTION

[14. A resolution expressing the willingness of City of Sherwood Arkansas to utilize federal-aid climate pollution reduction grant funds (Mayor Heye-Townsell)]

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[15. Old Business]

THANK YOU. I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT PRIOR TO JOSH, MR. PENLAND.

EXCUSE ME, DIRECTOR PENLAND PRE-TREATING WAS NOT A THING. SALTING WAS NOT A THING. SO THE PEOPLE OUT THERE AND VIEWING LAND WHO THINK THAT THE CITY DIDN'T DO THINGS TO PREPARE FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, WE WENT UP IN A UP AND ABOVE. WHAT WE DIDN'T PREPARE FOR WAS MOTHER

[01:20:07]

THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL STREETS THAT WERE PLOWED. MAYBE NEIGHBORING STREETS WERE NOT.

WE'VE GOTTEN SOME REQUESTS FOR EMERGENCY REASONS, YOU KNOW, MEDICAL PROCEDURES, APPOINTMENTS, WHATEVER. SO THERE'S BEEN SOME POSTS, YOU KNOW, ABOUT STREETS BEING DONE AND SOME THAT ARE HAVEN'T BEEN. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS. ANOTHER REASON WE'RE FOCUSED ON HILLS. YOU KNOW, IF YOU LIVE ON A FLAT STREET RIGHT NOW, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THESE RESIDENTS WHERE THEY CAN GET OUT OF THEIR HOME IF THEIR STREET IS LIKE THIS. SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

WE'RE WORKING AS HARD AS WE CAN WITH ALL THE PLOWS AND ALL THE TRUCKS WE'VE GOT. WE'LL CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD. SOME, SOME FOLKS HAVE SAID, WHAT ABOUT A ROAD GRADER? THAT'S NOT FOR US. WE DON'T BUILD ROADS. YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE A VERY EXPENSIVE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT JUST SITS MOST OF THE TIME. I'LL I'M GOING TO MOVE FORWARD AND PROBABLY ASK FOR SOME SOME FUNDS. WE'LL WE'LL WORK ON OUR PLOWS. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A BIGGER PLOW TRUCK. WE'VE GOT A FAIRLY NEW DUMP TRUCK THAT WE CAN PUT A PLOW ON THE FRONT OF IT AND THEN ADD A SPREADER, A SAND TANK IN THE BACK OF IT. SO WE'LL SPREAD AND PLOW AT THE SAME TIME. THAT'S WHAT THEY GOT, BIG TRUCKS. WE'LL MOVE FORWARD ON DOING THAT. SO WE HAVEN'T BEEN IDLE. WE'RE NOT MOVING BACKWARDS. WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS NOW ON THE STREETS AND JUST IN GENERAL WITH OUR EQUIPMENT. SO I WANT THAT OUT THERE. WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN. ALSO, DID ANY ELECTED OFFICIALS CONTACT YOU TO SAY YOU NEED TO DO MY STREET? NO THANK YOU. NO ELECTED OFFICIALS TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THEIR POSITIONS IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. NOR DID THEY EVEN REQUEST THAT THEIR MOTHERS STREET BE DONE. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT AS WELL. ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. I LIVE IN GRAVEL RIDGE. MY OWN STREET HAS NOT BEEN PLOWED. WE'RE DOING THE THE HILLS AND THE BAD AREAS WERE, YOU KNOW, AS BEST WE CAN. I LOVE THE EXPLANATION YOU GAVE, BECAUSE WHEN I ASKED YOU, WHEN SOMEONE ASKED ME, HOW ARE YOU SETTING THE PRIORITY? AND YOU SAID, HILLS FIRST, THEN I CAN SHUT PEOPLE UP THAT ARE ASKING ME AND I. AND I WANT TO APPRECIATE THAT. THE HILLS. MY

[01:25:02]

I'VE BEEN OUT IN MY PERSONAL TRUCK, YOU KNOW, SINCE THIS HAS STARTED, BECAUSE IT SITS UP HIGHER. YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN PULLING OUT POLICE CARS, BUT AND WE'VE HAD ALL CORRECT. SO DO YOU SPEAK FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, CAPTAIN? I JUST KNEW I WAS HERE SUNDAY. OKAY, SO WE'VE HAD SOME COMPLAINTS ALSO ABOUT THE SNOW, THE PLOWS. YOU KNOW, IT'S UNFORTUNATE. WE CAN'T WE WE'RE REQUIRED TO GET THE STREETS CLEARED. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING, IS WHAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON. WE CAN'T GO BACK AND MAKE SURE YOUR DRIVEWAY DOESN'T HAVE A MOUND OF SNOW AND ICE IN FRONT OF IT. SO IT'S UNFORTUNATE. I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE CLEARED THEIR DRIVEWAY AND THE PLOWS COME THROUGH, AND THEY'VE GOT TO DO IT AGAIN. YOU KNOW, I APOLOGIZE, BUT WE'VE GOT TO KEEP MOVING. WE CAN'T NOT DO THE STREET BECAUSE YOU DID YOUR DRIVEWAY.

JUST PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT. BE PATIENT, BE UNDERSTANDING AND MOVING FORWARD. WE'VE GOT SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT STILL CAN BE MADE. NEXT WILL BE POTHOLES. WE KNOW THIS TYPE OF WEATHER.

THERE'S GOING TO BE POTHOLES. JUST GIVE US A CALL. LET US KNOW WHERE THEY ARE. WE'LL WORK ON THEM. WE'LL GET THEM ON THE LIST. RIGHT NOW, OUR PHONE SYSTEMS, WE'RE JUST TRANSITIONING, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY A COUPLE HOURS AGO. AND THEY'RE RINGING OFF THE WALL. BELINDA AND HOLLY ARE TRYING TO LEARN A WHOLE NEW SYSTEM, NEW PHONES AND EVERYTHING. SO AGAIN, PLEASE BE PATIENT WITH PUBLIC WORKS. WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN, AND WE'LL GET OUT THERE AND TRY TO GET IT TAKEN CARE OF. AND I WILL SAY, UNFORTUNATELY, EVERYONE THINKS THAT THEY'RE PARTICULAR. STREET IS THE MOST IMPORTANT STREET. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST LIFE. AND YOU HAVEN'T BEEN THERE AT ALL. YEAH. OR MINE, DESPITE WHAT YOU MIGHT HAVE READ ON SOCIAL MEDIA. SO. BUT ANYWAY, I DO WANT TO SAY ALSO YOU, YOU KNOW, WITH ICE THERE, YOU ARE REALLY LIMITED ON WHAT YOU CAN DO. AND I SAW SOMEONE ALSO SAYING, WELL, WE SHOULD BE GETTING FARMERS AND HAVING THEM COME WITH THEIR TRACTORS, YOU KNOW, WITH BLADES ON IT. FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S LIABILITY IN TERMS OF THE OF THE CITY. ALSO, YOU REALLY HAVE TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT YOU CAN DO MORE HARM TO THESE ROADS THAN GOOD, WHICH CAN BE EXTREMELY COSTLY IN TERMS OF REPAIRS AND SO FORTH. SO I KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN AN INCONVENIENCE. I KNOW PEOPLE ARE GOING STIR CRAZY, BUT HONESTLY, IN TALKING TO THE OTHER MAYORS, THE OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND, WE ARE IN THE SAME SITUATION THAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS IN. SO IT IS A GOD THING? YES. ANYWAY, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JOSH CONCERNING THE ROADS? THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN AND HUGE SHOUT OUT TO RIVER CITY HYDRAULICS. YES. OH YES. THEY HAVE BEEN SO INCREDIBLE TO OUR CITY AND SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.

AND I WILL ALSO SAY YES, OF COURSE WE MAINTAIN OUR VEHICLES BUT THINGS STILL HAPPEN JUST LIKE THEY. I KNOW FOR A FACT WITH SOME OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THEY'VE HAD SOME. THE SAME THINGS HAPPEN WHERE ALL OF A SUDDEN A VEHICLE, SOMETHING GOES WRONG WITH IT. BUT THEY HAVE BEEN VERY QUICK TO KEEP OUR VEHICLES UP AND RUNNING AND BACK OUT ON THE STREETS. SO I DO APPRECIATE EVERYTHING. AND PLEASE TELL YOUR CREW HOW MUCH THE CITY APPRECIATES THEM.

THANK YOU. ALSO, COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS WANTED TO ALSO MENTION THERE WERE SOME PICTURES THAT CAMERON SAID THAT YOU CAN PUSH A BUTTON UP THERE HE LEFT? IS IR HERE? OKAY. I'M LIKE, I DON'T SEE A BUTTON THAT DOES THAT UP HERE. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO. YOU CAN BLAME CAPTAIN HARTMAN FOR THIS. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE. I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU CAPTAIN. THERE'S ONLY ABOUT FIVE FOR THE FAR LEFT PICTURE. YEAH, BIRDHOUSES ARE AT THE WE. THE SYLVAN HILLS HIGH SCHOOL MADE ONE. IT'S A GOOD THING HARTMAN. SYLVAN HILLS HIGH SCHOOL MADE 100 MORE BIRDHOUSES FOR OUR OUR RESIDENTS. THEY WERE TAKEN TO ANIMAL SHELTER. YOU SEE SOME ANIMAL SHELTER

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AND THE ARTIST OF THAT. AND IT'S ON THE FRONT DISPLAY OF THE BANK. SO APPRECIATE OUR PARTNERS WITH THE CITY AND WITH THE, THE 50 OR SOMETHING KIDS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL THAT PAINTED ALL THESE. SO THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT WITH THE RESIDENTS. WE SHOULD HAVE A LOT OF VERY HAPPY BIRDS IN WITH ALL THESE CUTE BIRDHOUSES THAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING. THAT'S RIGHT.

[16. New Business]

ANYBODY AGAINST THE 14TH? OKAY. SO THAT WOULD BE DECEMBER 14TH. NOW IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION.

SO MOVED SECOND. OKAY. WE WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE MARCH COUNCIL DATE TO THE 13TH. THE MAY COUNCIL DATE TO THE EIGHTH, 30TH, 30TH. EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU. THE MAY COUNCIL MEETING TO THE 18TH AND THE DECEMBER COUNCIL MEETING TO THE 14TH BY COUNCIL MEMBER BROOKS AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCCULLOUGH. WADE. TREAT MCCULLOUGH, I BRODERICK. BROOKS I THOMAS. WILLIAMS I TOWNSEND. AND I NEED YOU AND COUNCIL YES I THERE WE GO. GOOD THING I'M HERE. YOU CAN MARK ME ABSENT FOR THE 18TH. OKAY. NOW YOU'RE BRAGGING. OKAY. JUST KIDDING.

CONGRATULATIONS. GRADUATING FROM COLLEGE. I'M TIRED OF THE BIRTHDAYS THE NEXT DAY. I'M TIED UP THAT WEEKEND. NO, ABSOLUTELY. I DON'T KNOW IF WE WILL BE OKAY. ANY ANYTHING ELSE

[17. Announcement(s)]

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THANK YOU. WE ALSO HAVE FEBRUARY 3RD IS OUR SENIOR LUNCHEON AT THE SENIOR CENTER.

THAT'S AT 1130. PLEASE RSVP AT (501) 834-5770 IF YOU PLAN ON ATTENDING. FEBRUARY 5TH IS THE MONTHLY CHAMBER LUNCHEON. THAT'S 1130 AND THAT'S AT THE GREENS BANQUET. IF YOU'D LIKE TO ATTEND THAT PHONE NUMBER. 501835 7600 ON FEBRUARY 15TH. WE'VE GOT THE HEARTS AND HUGS VALENTINE BALL FROM 2 TO 4 P.M. AND SHERWOOD FOREST YOU. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND THIS. THE END OF THE MONTH IS THE DEADLINE FOR IT TOMORROW. TOMORROW IS THE DEADLINE.

YOU'LL NEED TO GO ON TO EVENTBRITE IN ORDER TO RESERVE YOUR TICKETS FOR THAT FEBRUARY 16TH. CITY OFFICES ARE CLOSED FOR OBSERVATION, FOR OBSERVATION, TO OBSERVE PRESIDENTS DAY, WE'RE GOING TO OBSERVE MONDAY. GARBAGE PICKUP WILL BE ON TUESDAY. RECYCLING PICKUP WILL WANT RUN ONE DAY LATE FEBRUARY 20TH. WE'VE GOT THE YOUTH BASEBALL, T-BALL, SOFTBALL, SPRING REGISTRATION CLOSES. ALSO, JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY WE ARE GOING TO HAVE REGULAR GARBAGE FRIDAY ONLY PICKUP ON FRIDAY. IF YOU HAVE EXTRA GARBAGE THAT YOU NEED TO DISPOSE OF BEFORE YOUR REGULAR DAY NEXT WEEK, THERE WILL BE A BACK LOADER TRUCK THAT WILL BE PARKED ON LOIS LANE AND KEELE AVENUE. THANK YOU. IT'S OVER WHERE THE RECYCLING USED TO BE, SO THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO PUT YOUR TRASH IN THAT THIS WEEKEND. SO I'LL. ABSOLUTELY. HE'S WONDERFUL. WE'LL HAVE A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT. SO MOVED. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER BROOKS AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TOWNSEND. ANY OBJECTIONS? MEETING ADJ

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.