[00:00:01] SO MUCH FUN. DOOR. YEAH, I'VE GOT 6:00. I WILL CALL THE FEBRUARY 10TH MEETING OF THE [1. Call to Order] SHERWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. EVAN. HERE. PATEL HERE. HERE. MARTIN. HERE. WILLIAMS HERE. DOZIER, HERE. HERE. OKAY. FIRST ITEM IS THE APPROVAL OF THE [3. Approval of January 13th, 2026, Meeting Minutes ] MEETING. MINUTES FROM THE JANUARY 13TH MEETING. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS, CORRECTIONS, COMMENTS? ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. OKAY, EVAN, I PATEL, I ABSTAIN. MARTIN I WILLIAMS. ABSTAIN. DOZIER I HOSKIN I502. OKAY. NEXT ITEM IS THE APPROVAL [4. Approval of the Agenda] OF THE AGENDA. AND UNDERSTAND THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME ADDITIONS AND CORRECTIONS. YES I WAS GOING TO REQUEST THIS EVENING IF WE COULD GO AHEAD AND MOVE OLD BUSINESS UP AND TAKE CARE OF THAT BEFORE THE NEW AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY. AND THEN ITEM NUMBER FIVE. YES. AND THEN STAFF RECOMMENDS TABLING ITEM NUMBER FIVE IN LIGHT OF THE FOLLOWING ITEM NUMBER SIX, THE REPLAT WOULD NEED TO BE RECORDED PRIOR TO TAKING UP ACTION ON THE REZONE APPLICATION. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE GOT ANY ADDITIONS AND CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA? WE'LL TAKE IT AS AMENDED. SO IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK AT THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS THE REZONE ON CHEETWOOD ROAD, THAT IS GOING TO BE TABLED FOR THIS MONTH AND WILL BE RE-ADVERTISED AT WHENEVER IT WILL BE TAKEN UP. IN ESSENCE, ITEM NUMBER SIX, THE REPLAT IS THE PROBLEM. WE CAN'T REZONE A LOT THAT DOESN'T EXIST. SO UNTIL SIX IS REPLATTED AND RECORDED AT THE COUNTY, WE CANNOT TAKE THAT ITEM UP. SO THAT MIGHT BE THE MARCH MEETING. THAT MAY BE THE APRIL MEETING, DEPENDING ON WHEN THAT IS RECORDED AT THE COUNTY. SO IF YOU'RE HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER FIVE, IT IS NOT GOING TO BE HEARD TONIGHT. SO IF YOU THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE HERE FOR AND YOU WANT TO LEAVE, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU CAME FOR. YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO STAY, BUT. WE KNOW WHEN IT COMES TO THE. THEY'LL HAVE TO BE RE-ADVERTISED IN THE IN THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS. HAPPEN AGAIN? YEAH. OKAY. WE'RE THAT WOULD BE OLD BUSINESS. [8. Old Business] FIRST PRELIMINARY PLAT CAMILLA ACRES DUE TO ACTION OR LACK OF ACTION ON THIS APPLICATION. STAFF REQUESTS DENIAL AT THIS TIME. AND THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TO MAKE NEW APPLICATION IF THEY DECIDE TO COME BACK WITH THE PRELIMINARY PLAT. YEAH, THIS ITEM HAS BEEN ON OUR AGENDA FOR SEVERAL MONTHS. SO. SO DO WE NEED TO DENY THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AND THE SITE PLAN? WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THEM ONE AT A TIME. BUT YES YES YES. SO ITEM ITEM NOW IS THE PRELIMINARY PLAT ONLY FOR THIS IS THAT LOCATION ON JACKSONVILLE CUTOFF THAT HAS BEEN ON OUR AGENDA. MAKE A MOTION TO DENY SECOND OKAY. OKAY. HANG ON. MY SPEECH OF DENIAL. SO AN I VOTE IS A DENIAL VOTE NOT THAT MEANS WE'RE TAKING IT OFF THE AGENDA. SO JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY OKAY. MOTION AND SECOND EVANS I PATEL I CLEF I MARTIN I WILLIAMS I DOZIER I HOSKIN I A SITE PLAN FOR CAMILLA ACRES AGAIN. SO THIS NEXT APPLICATION THE SITE PLAN FOR THE ASSOCIATED PRELIMINARY PLAT DUE TO LACK OF APPLICATION ACTION ON THE APPLICATION STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE SITE PLAN SECOND. YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND EVANS DELOREY I PATEL I I MARTIN I WILLIAMS I DOZIER I HOSKIN I OKAY SITE PLAN WAS DENIED SITE PLAN FOR 1800 EAST KEELE. ALL RIGHT SO THIS LAST ITEM THE APPLICANT REQUESTED TO WITHDRAW THE APPLICATION. THEY WILL COME IN WITH A REDESIGN IN THE COMING MONTHS. OKAY. I DON'T THAT DOESN'T TAKE ANY ACTION ON OUR PART IF THEY'RE WITHDRAWING OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WITHDRAW. THAT ONE'S WITHDRAWN. OKAY. NUMBER SIX ON THE AGENDA [6. Replat of Lots 21 and 22, Sylvan Hills Addition. George Murillo, Owner] OF LOTS 21 AND 22 SYLVAN HILLS ADDITION. ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS A REPLAT FOR ESSENTIALLY TWO EXISTING LOTS OF RECORD ON YOUR SCREEN RIGHT HERE. BECAUSE IT IS A BIT CONFUSING. IF YOU WOULD HAVE REVIEWED YOUR STAFF REPORT, THERE WERE SOME TECHNICAL ITEMS REQUESTED OF [00:05:02] STAFF JUST TO CONTINUE THE REVIEW. BUT RIGHT HERE THIS IS AN EXISTING LOT LINE. AND THIS THIS LOT LINE IS NOT CURRENTLY PRESENT. THIS IS ONE LOT OF RECORD THIS LOT 22. AND THIS WOULD BE LOT 21. HOWEVER AT SOME POINT THERE IS AN UNDOCUMENTED LOT SPLIT THAT HAD OCCURRED. SO THIS REAR PORTION OF LOT 22 IS UNDER SEPARATE OWNERSHIP VERSUS THIS EASTERN PORTION. SO WHAT THIS REPLAT ESSENTIALLY IS DOING IS EFFECTIVELY DETERMINING LOT LINES FOR A CLEAN LEGAL REPLAT. SO IN LIGHT OF THAT, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED, AS PART OF THIS REPLAT A REQUEST TO WAIVE THE HALF STREET IMPROVEMENTS BASED ON TEAT WOOD, AND THAT COMES AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF. IF YOU WOULD HAVE DRIVEN DOWN TEAT WOULD OR EVEN LOOKED AT THE AERIAL VIEW. AT THIS POINT IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO REQUIRE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. IT DOES HAVE OPEN DRAINAGE AND STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REPLAT. AND THERE ARE CONTINGENT LIST OF ITEMS THAT REQUIRE COMPLETION PRIOR TO ANY SIGNATURES BEING EXECUTED. YOU MIND SPELLING THOSE OUT FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE I CERTAINLY CAN. OKAY, SO THE FIRST ONE, OF COURSE, WOULD BE THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL TO WAIVE THOSE HALF STREET IMPROVEMENTS, THAT BEING THE CURB, GUTTER AND SIDEWALK ALONG TEAT WOOD. IF THAT WAIVER WERE NOT APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION, THE PLAN WOULD HAVE TO BE REVISED TO INDICATE THE INSTALLATION OF THOSE REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS. THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE CLARIFICATION, DISTINGUISHING THE CURRENT OWNERS OF RECORD FROM THE SUBDIVIDER ASSOCIATED WITH THE REPLAT APPLICATION. A DIMENSION ON THE RIGHT OF WAY FROM THE CENTERLINE OF TEAT WOOD TO THE PROPERTY. THAT WOULD HELP STAFF TO DETERMINE IF ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION WERE REQUIRED. STAFF HAS REQUESTED, OF COURSE, THAT LOT LINE TO BE ABANDONED TO BE CAPTURED ON THE REPLAT FOR REVIEW, AND THEN WITH THAT, STAFF HAS REQUESTED THE APPLICANT INDICATE THE LOCATION, SIZE AND DIMENSIONS OF ALL EXISTING STRUCTURES TO ENSURE THERE'S NO ILLEGAL STRUCTURES ESTABLISHED WITH THIS REPLAT. PROVIDE WILL SERVE LETTERS FROM THE UTILITIES, THAT BEING WATER AND SANITARY SEWER PROVIDERS, AND THEN A COUPLE MORE TECHNICAL ITEMS LIKE A GENERAL NOTE BEING ADDED TO THE PLAT AS THE ERA OF CLOSURE STATEMENT, AND THE USE OF PRESCRIBED EASEMENTS, PROVIDING A DRAFT BILL ASSURANCE FOR THE SUBDIVISION AND INDICATING THE NEAREST DISTANCE OF AN EXISTING OR PROPOSED FIRE HYDRANT. ALL RIGHT, SINCE THIS PLAT DOES HAVE A WAIVER, WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION AND VOTE ON THE WAIVER PRIOR TO THE PLAT. SO WAIVERS FOR WHAT NOW? THE HALF STREET IMPROVEMENTS, BUILDING THE CURB AND GUTTER AND SIDEWALK OUT AT FULL WIDTH, BUT NOWHERE ELSE ON ON TEAKWOOD IS HAS THAT BEEN DONE. SO THAT'S THAT'S A TO ME THAT'S A AN ACCEPTABLE. YES. YOU THERE. YEAH. HERE WE GO. YEAH. NEITHER NEITHER NEITHER SIDE OF TEAT WOULD RIGHT DOWN THROUGH THERE. DOESN'T HAVE ANY OF THAT. SO TO ME THAT THIS IS AN ACCEPTABLE LOCATION TO I DROVE DOWN THE STREET. I WAS JUST TRYING TO REFRESH MY MEMORY. YEAH. I DID NOT REMEMBER SEEING ANY OF SUCH THINGS. THERE IS NOT. SO. SO WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE ON THE WAIVER? THE HALF STREET IMPROVEMENTS FOR THESE TWO LOTS. MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GRANT THE WAIVER. SECOND, DO WE DO IT WITH THE CITY'S COMMENTS OR THE STAFF COMMENTS? WELL, THIS IS JUST A VOTE ON THE WAIVER OR JUST ON THE WAIVER AT THIS POINT. SECOND, THAT SO YOU GOT IT. YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE WAIVER. SO CALL THE ROLL I PATEL A CLEF, I MARTIN A WILLIAMS I DOZIER I HOSKIN I OKAY HALF STREET IMPROVEMENT REQUIREMENT HAS BEEN WAIVED. SO NOW WHAT'S THE PLEASURE ON THE PLAT ITSELF. AND THERE ARE CONTINGENCIES THAT SHE LISTED SEVERAL ACTUALLY. APPROVED. OKAY. SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND WITH THE CONTINGENCIES STATED BY SHELBY. CALL THE ROLL EVANS I PATEL I CLEF MARTIN WILLIAMS. DOZIER I HOSKIN I. [7. Discussion: Residential Zoning Districts] OKAY DISCUSSION FOR RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS. HOW IS EVERYBODY DOING. LONG TIME NO SEE FOR FOR SOME SOME OF Y'ALL. SO THIS ITEM IS REALLY BEING BROUGHT ABOUT BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME EXISTING STAFF QUESTIONS. SO STAFF WAS BRINGING THIS FORWARD REALLY TO ADDRESS WHAT [00:10:01] WE SEE AS KIND OF AN ONGOING ISSUES WITHIN THE THE ZONING CODE AS IT RELATES TO OUR RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF A PERSISTENT PROBLEM AND HAS BEEN EXACERBATED AS OF LATE, IS REALLY WITH THE R2 REGULATIONS. IT'S IT'S ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS THAT WE CALL THERE'S A TIE GOES TO THE RUNNER. IN THE PAST, AT TIMES THE REGULATIONS HAVE BEEN INTERPRETED TO ALLOW DUPLEXES AND TRIPLEXES AND QUADPLEXES AS HAVING MULTIPLE BUILDINGS ON A SINGLE LOT, AND THEN OTHER TIMES IT'S BEEN INTERPRETED TO WHERE THERE'S ONLY A SINGLE DUPLEX OR TRIPLEX OR QUADPLEX ON A SINGLE LOT. AND THOSE THOSE ARE REALLY IMPORTANT KEY DIFFERENCES AS IT RELATES TO TYPICALLY WHEN YOU HAVE MULTIPLE STRUCTURES ON ONE LOT, THAT'S OFTENTIMES ZONING REGULATIONS. THEY'RE THEY'RE INTERPRETED AS BEING MULTIFAMILY VERSUS WHAT WE WOULD CALL SMALL SCALE MULTIFAMILY. AND SO IN A LOT OF WAYS, IT'S MEANT TO ADDRESS THAT PARTICULAR QUESTION, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN APPLIED DIFFERENTLY AT DIFFERENT TIMES OVER THE YEARS BECAUSE IT'S IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT UNCLEAR. ADDITIONALLY, WE THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY AND GOOD TIME TO TO TAKE A LOOK AND TRY TO ALIGN THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS WITH VISION SHERWOOD 2040. SO THIS IS SORT OF SOMETHING WAY BACK IN 2019 SAID, HEY, WE HAVE THIS IDEA OF THIS IS HOW WE WANT TO STRUCTURE THOSE THOSE ZONING REGULATIONS. BUT IT WAS KIND OF ONE OF THOSE THINGS. WE'LL WORK ON IT IN THE FUTURE. AND SO NOW IT'S THE TIME IS THE FUTURE. SO WHAT YOU SEE WITH THIS IS AND ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS IS, IS REALLY CLARIFYING DEFINITIONS. ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE WE HAVE HAD IS WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A ZERO LOT LINE AND A TOWNHOME AND SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED AND A ROW HOUSE, AND THE EXISTING ZONING REGULATIONS DON'T PROVIDE A LOT OF CLARITY IN THAT, THAT REGARD AS TO WHAT THOSE ARE AND WHAT THEY ARE NOT. AND SO REALLY WITH WITH THIS IS HAVING REALLY EXPLICIT CLEAR LINES AS TO WHAT WHAT UNITS ARE, WHAT THEY ARE NOT. AND SO KIND OF GO OVER SOME OF THESE DEFINITIONS. FIRST SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED. THIS WOULD BE ANYTHING THAT IS A SITE BUILT OR MODULAR HOUSE THAT IS DETACHED, MEANING IT'S NOT ATTACHED TO ANY OTHER STRUCTURE OTHER THAN POTENTIALLY AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT, WHICH IS WHICH IS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW. SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED ZERO LOT LINE. THIS IS ESSENTIALLY A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE TWO SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS SEPARATED BY A FIREWALL ON SEPARATE LOTS, BUT THEY'RE ATTACHED. AND SO YOU'VE GOT ONE LOT LINE WHERE THERE'S A ZERO SETBACK AND THEN THERE'S FIVE FOOT SETBACKS ON EITHER SIDE. SO YOU'VE GOT A CADENCE OF STRUCTURE ATTACHED TO A STRUCTURE SPACE STRUCTURE ATTACHED TO A STRUCTURE SPACE. AND IT'S KIND OF THAT'S THE THAT'S THE GENERAL CADENCE OF THOSE, THOSE ZERO LOT LINE DEVELOPMENTS. THEN YOU'VE GOT SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED TOWNHOMES. AND SO THESE ARE UP TO FOUR UNITS THAT ARE ATTACHED. BUT THEY'RE ALL INDIVIDUALLY ON THEIR OWN LOT. THEY JUST SHARE FIREWALLS. SO BUT THEY'RE INDIVIDUAL LOTS AS WELL. AND THEN WE'VE GOT DWELLING TWO FAMILY THREE FAMILY FOUR FAMILY AGAIN THOSE YOU KNOW THOSE ARE OFTEN I THINK PRETTY EASY TO UNDERSTAND. IT'S A TWO UNITS ON ONE LOT, THREE UNITS ON ONE LOT OR FOUR UNITS ON ONE LOT AND AN INDIVIDUAL BUILDING. AND THEN MULTIFAMILY WOULD BE ANY SINGLE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING THAT HAS MORE THAN FIVE UNITS IN IT, OR MULTIPLE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS ON A SINGLE LOT. SO IF YOU HAD TWO DUPLEXES THAT WOULD BE MULTIFAMILY, OR YOU HAD A SINGLE FAMILY AND A DUPLEX ON AN INDIVIDUAL LOT THAT'S MULTIFAMILY, OR IF YOU HAD THE LINKS, THAT'S MULTIFAMILY, IT'S ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE ARE MULTIFAMILY IN THE WAY THAT THEY'RE THEY FUNCTION. ADDITIONALLY, WE'VE. SORT OF UPDATED SOME OF THE DEFINITIONS FOR MANUFACTURED HOUSING IN THE EXISTING. AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST KIND OF PROPOSED. SO THESE ARE I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO FAR AHEAD OF MYSELF IN SAYING THIS IS THE COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION OF THESE REGULATIONS. WE'RE REALLY COMING TO YOU ALL FOR THE PURPOSE OF SOLICITING YOUR INPUT FEEDBACK. IS THIS A GOOD IDEA? IS THIS A BAD IDEA? SO I GOT A LITTLE BIT OF AHEAD OF MYSELF IN THAT REGARD. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS UPDATING MANUFACTURED HOME REGULATIONS. THERE'S CURRENTLY A CLASS A AND CLASS B MANUFACTURED HOMES BASED ON [00:15:05] SORT OF WHETHER IT'S A SINGLE WIDE OR DOUBLE WIDE AND KIND OF GETTING RID OF THAT DISTINCTION AND THEN ADDITIONALLY UPDATING THE DEFINITION OF A MODULAR HOME, WE ANTICIPATE THAT THERE WILL BE SOME STATE LEGISLATION AT SOME POINT, ESSENTIALLY MANDATING A STATE MODULAR HOUSING CODE. THAT IS, AND MODULAR CONSTRUCTION IS ESSENTIALLY EQUIVALENT TO SITE BUILT CONSTRUCTION. THEY MEET THE SAME CODES. IT'S JUST ONE IS BUILT IN A FACTORY AND ONE IS BUILT ON SITE. THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY DIFFERENCE. BUT TO ACCOMMODATE THAT FACTORY CONSTRUCTION, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A UNIFORM STATEWIDE CODE TO DO THAT. AND SO THAT'S WE LIKELY ANTICIPATE SOMETHING LIKE THAT COMING. SO WITH IF YOU'RE LOOKING ON THIS KIND OF SECOND PAGE, THE SCHEDULE OF USES AND WHAT THE WHAT THE CONVERSION WOULD BE IS CURRENTLY THERE'S R1, R2, R3, R4. AND THEN YEAH, IT'S IT'S THOSE IT'S THOSE DISTRICTS. WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING IS HAVE AN R1 DISTRICT, R2 DISTRICT R3, R4 AND THEN THE R, THE CURRENT R4 WOULD BE TRANSITIONED TO R.M. AND THEN WE WOULD BE ADDING ONE THAT IS A NEW DISTRICT AS WELL. SO THE IDEA IS R1 AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS, THERE WOULDN'T REALLY BE ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGE. IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT. IT WOULD REMAIN A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT. WE'RE NOT REALLY FOOLING FOOLING WITH IT AT ALL, R2. IT'S A IT'S A ZONE THAT CURRENTLY ALLOWS, AS WE SAID, DUPLEXES, TRIPLEXES AND QUADPLEXES. WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING IS SEPARATING OUT R2 INTO AN R2 DISTRICT AND AN R3 DISTRICT. THE R2 DISTRICT WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY THOSE EXISTING DEVELOPED LOTS THAT HAVE A DUPLEX ON THEM. ONE SINGLE DUPLEX WOULD THEN BECOME R2. ANYTHING THAT IS OF HIGHER DENSITY OR DIFFERENT THAN THAT WOULD BECOME R3, AND THAT WOULD BE WHERE YOU WOULD ALLOW A TRIPLEX QUADPLEX TO BE CONSTRUCTED. ALL OF THE EXISTING AREAS THAT ARE KIND OF LARGE SCALE MULTIFAMILY THAT ARE R3, THOSE WOULD WHOLESALE BECOME, AS A RESULT, A NEW DISTRICT CALLED R4, WHICH IS BASICALLY R4 MADE BACK OLDER THEN THE EXISTING MANUFACTURED HOUSING DISTRICT THAT IS R4, AND THE MANUFACTURED HOME PARK DISTRICT WOULD BE COMBINED TO BE A RESIDENTIAL MANUFACTURED HOME DISTRICT. SO YOU WOULD HAVE THE PARKS AND MANUFACTURED HOMES SORT OF IN THAT THAT SAME DISTRICT. THE OTHER THING WOULD BE THE A NEW DISTRICT CALLED R2, WHICH WOULD BE SORT OF A RESIDENTIAL TRADITIONAL DEVELOPMENT, AND THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING AKIN TO WHAT YOU MIGHT SEE ROCKWATER VILLAGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THE VILLAGE AT HENDRICKS, WHAT WE CALL A NEW URBANIST TYPE DEVELOPMENT OR TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT THAT ACCOMMODATES LARGELY SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, BUT ON SMALLER LOTS WITH SOME DESIGN RESTRICTIONS. THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. THIS THIS WOULD BE ONE OF THE ONLY THE ONLY DISTRICT THAT WOULD HAVE SINGLE FAMILY DESIGN RESTRICTIONS. AND IT'S BECAUSE THE THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY AREA THAT IS ZONED RT. ESSENTIALLY SOMEONE WOULD HAVE TO COME TO THE CITY AND SAY, I WANT TO BE ZONED RT. I WANT TO DO A TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT. I WANT TO BE REGULATED IN THIS WAY. SO IT WOULD BE BASED ON CONSENT. AND THEN THE CITY WOULD SAY, YEAH, WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA. WE DON'T THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA. ADDITIONALLY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WOULD BE KIND OF A NEW REQUIREMENT WOULD BE FOR ANYTHING THAT'S TRIPLEX AND ABOVE, THERE WOULD BE SOME MULTIFAMILY DESIGN STANDARDS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FOUND IN A LOT OF CITIES ARE A LOT OF THE OPPOSITION THAT GETS GENERATED TO MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT SURROUNDS ABOUT THE FORM AND THE DESIGN OF THE DEVELOPMENT. PEOPLE GET REALLY CONCERNED WHEN THEY START THINKING ABOUT OR HEARING OR SEEING THE IDEA OF A TRADITIONAL DUPLEX OR TRIPLEX WITH JUST A SEA OF PARKING IN FRONT THAT'S ALL OUT TO THE STREET. THERE'S NO PLACE TO PUT TRASH. THE DOORS GO OUT TO NOWHERE. IT'S IT'S THEY'RE NOT REALLY WELL DESIGNED. AND AS A RESULT, A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE NOT REALLY WELL MAINTAINED EITHER. AND SO HAVING SOME DESIGN STANDARDS THAT WOULD SORT OF REQUIRE QUALITY DEVELOPMENT THAT GOES WITH THAT, THAT REALLY WOULD, WOULD MAKE THEM A GENUINE STRONG ASSET FOR THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. SO ANY QUESTIONS THUS FAR ON KIND OF THE THE IDEA OF THAT? I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE NEW ONE. RT SOMEBODY HAS TO COME TO YOU, BUT THEN CT WILL TELL THEM ABOUT THE SETBACKS AND [00:20:04] RESTRICTIONS OR. YES. YEAH. SO IT WOULD, IT WOULD HAVE BASICALLY SOME PRE-BAKED REQUIREMENTS. SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT REALLY WHOLESALE I WOULD SAY. BUT IT'S IT'S MEANT TO BE STRUCTURED SOMEWHAT LIKE WHAT WE'VE SEEN WITH SOME OF THE PUDS THAT HAVE COME IN, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT THAT PUD DEVELOPMENT RECENTLY. I THINK IT WAS. YEAH. OFF MARYLAND. YEAH. THAT ONE IS IS KIND OF AN EXAMPLE. SMALLER LOTS SMALLER SETBACK SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TOWNHOMES THAT TYPE OF STUFF THAT YOU WOULD YOU WOULD SEE MORE OFTEN WITH THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S THAT'S REALLY WHAT THAT'S INTENDED FOR. ADDITIONALLY SOME, SOME THINGS THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO ADDRESS THROUGH THIS IS POTENTIALLY ARE ADDING THE CURRENTLY THE WAY THAT THE THE SIDEWALK REQUIREMENTS ARE STRUCTURED, THE SIDEWALKS ARE ALL CONSTRUCTED AT THE TIME OF SUBDIVISION. THIS WOULD SHIFT SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION TO BEING A BUILDING PERMIT ISSUE. OFTENTIMES, ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEAR FROM DEVELOPERS ARE, IF I BUILD THE SIDEWALK NOW, I'M GOING TO GET TRUCKS. THE TRUCKS ARE GOING TO RUN OVER IT, THEY'RE GOING TO CRACK IT. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE LOCATION OF WHERE THE DRIVEWAY IS GOING TO BE. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THINGS JUST GET A LITTLE BIT WEIRD AND WONKY. AND SO PROVIDING SOME FLEXIBILITY TO THE DEVELOPERS IN THAT SITUATION, THAT IS AT THE TIME THAT YOU SORT OF PULL A BUILDING PERMIT, THEN IT'S THE HOME BUILDER THAT IS ESSENTIALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR FOR POURING THE SIDEWALK. THAT WAS TRIED YEARS AGO HERE. IT DOESN'T. THE HOME BUILDERS ARE NOT AS GOOD AT GETTING ADA REQUIREMENTS MET AS THE DEVELOPERS ARE. SO THE REASON THE RULE IS THE RULE AS IT IS NOW. SO THE THE THE SOLUTION THAT WE'VE FOUND IN OTHER COMMUNITIES IS THE DEVELOPER REMAINS RESPONSIBLE FOR HANDICAP RAMPS, AND THE DEVELOPER REMAINS RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY LOTS THAT ARE UNDEVELOPABLE. THAT WAS THAT WAS A SOLUTION THAT WE USED IN IN CONWAY, THAT THEY WENT AHEAD AND PUT THE HANDICAP RAMPS IN IT SET UP WHAT THE WHAT THE HOME BUILDER HAD TO TIE TO. AND THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS JUST MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S THERE'S NOT MORE THAN A 2% CROSS SLOPE. AND SO THAT'S THE THAT'S THE MAIN CHALLENGE IN DEALING WITH THAT. CAN YOU PUT A CONTINGENT FOR THE SIDEWALKS THAT TO LIKE FIRST THEY CAN HAVE A WAIVER. BUT THEN THEY HAVE TO GO AHEAD AND FINISH THE SIDEWALKS OR ADA REQUIREMENT. AND THEN WE'LL ISSUE A CEO FOR THAT KIND OF. YEAH, THAT'S THE THAT'S THE WAY IT TYPICALLY WORKS. YEAH. IT'S IT'S REQUIRED AT THE TIME THAT THE BUILDING PERMIT. AND THEN ONCE THEY GO THROUGH THEIR FINAL PUNCH LIST AT CO THEN I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO LOOK VERY GOOD TO ME BECAUSE I MEAN YOU GOT A DEVELOPMENT THAT GETS HALF FULL OF HOUSES. AND THEN FOR 3 OR 4 YEARS OR MORE THOSE HOUSES DON'T GET BUILT. THE SIDEWALKS ARE HIT AND MISS. YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE POINT OF HAVING THEM EVEN PUTTING IN AT THAT POINT? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE PUT THEM IN. I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD BE PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT UNLESS THEY'RE DOING IT IN PHASES. BUT I MEAN, LIKE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, I MEAN, THEY, THEY BOUGHT LOTS AND THEY BUILT THE HOUSES AND, YOU KNOW, THEY IF THEY BROKE THE SIDEWALK, THEY TOOK IT OUT, THEY FIXED IT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TRADITIONALLY I'VE HELD THAT SAME OPINION FOR A VERY LONG TIME. IT WAS NOT UNTIL I WORKED IN CONWAY AND SAW HOW IT WORKED THAT IT IT IT IT WORKED. YEAH. I MEAN, IF YOU GET A SUBDIVISION THAT FILLS UP QUICKLY. YEAH, YOU HAVE TO BE FINE. YOU KNOW, YOU OPEN IT AND A YEAR LATER EVERYTHING'S BUILT. THAT'S FINE. BUT IF YOU OPEN IT UP AND IT'S LIKE THIS HOUSE BUILDS AND THEN TWO YEARS LATER, THIS HOUSE BUILDS, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT AT A TIME. YOU'RE GOING TO GET MISMATCHED LOOKING SIDEWALKS COMING TOGETHER ALL OVER THE PLACE. AND IF THERE, IF THERE'S A SLOW. THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT. IF THERE'S A SLOW ABSORPTION RATE, THAT IT IS AN ISSUE. AND I SEE YOUR POINT. IF DEVELOPER ONLY DO PHASE ONE AND ABANDON THE PHASE 2 OR 3 AND THEN THERE'S NOTHING HAPPENED, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, JUST AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU THE DEVELOPER, YOU KNOW, BUILDS A SUBDIVISION, PUTS IN THE STREETS, IF HE DOESN'T PUT IN THE SIDEWALKS, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE HIT AND MISS. BUT ON THE BUILDERS THAT PUT IT IN THERE AND YOU'RE GOING TO GET DIFFERENT QUALITIES OF SIDEWALK AND DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO THAT CAN ENSUE WITH THAT, THAT KIND OF THINKING. I DON'T THINK IT'S A I THINK IT SHOULD BE PUT IN TO BEGIN WITH. AT THE TIME. IT'S A IT THERE ARE ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES TO IT. BUT WHEN YOU DO HAVE HOME BUILDERS THAT ARE ACCUSTOMED TO DOING IT, IT WORKS. YEAH. I MEAN WITH THAT NOW, YOU KNOW, NOT EVERY HOMEBUILDERS THE SAME. THAT'S I'VE SEEN THAT. YEAH. THE OTHER THING THAT WOULD BE SORT OF A [00:25:02] NEW A NEW REQUIREMENT. OFTENTIMES ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SEE IN SUBDIVISIONS IS IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE DEVELOPMENT, THERE HAS TO BE SORT OF MASS CLEARING OF THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. THERE'S REALLY NOT A GOOD WAY TO GET AROUND THAT UNLESS YOU DO HAVE MAYBE SOMEWHERE UP HERE, SOME CREEK BUFFERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND SO ADDING A REQUIREMENT ESSENTIALLY FOR ONE TREE TO BE PLANTED AT THE TIME BEFORE CO PLANTED WITH, WITH THE HOUSE. AND SO THAT THAT THEN A FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL TREE NOT A TWIG. YEAH. IT'S BASICALLY, YOU KNOW TWO INCHES AT AT BREAST HEIGHT. YEAH. TWO INCH. NOT A BRADFORD PEAR. IS THAT TREE IN THE FRONT YARD OR ARE YOU TALKING TREE IN TREE IN THE FRONT YARD OR ON THE LOT RATHER I GUESS IS PROBABLY A BETTER REQUIREMENT LIKE CHANNEL PROPERTY REQUIRES CHANNEL ONE TREE WOULD BE ENOUGH. BUT YEAH. AND ADDITIONALLY THAT THAT'S KIND OF A MITIGATION MEASURE I'VE SEEN IN OTHER COMMUNITIES AS WELL TO KIND OF KIND OF DEAL WITH THAT PEOPLE, PEOPLE GET UP IN ARMS ABOUT TAKING TREES OUT A LOT, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THEM FOR A LONG TIME. IT'S LIKE YOU WANT TO, YOU KNOW, BUY THAT LAND IF YOU WANT LIKE THAT. IS THERE ANYTHING IN HERE ABOUT DRIVEWAY SLOPES? NO WE DIDN'T. THAT IS A BLAKE CAN TELL YOU DRIVEWAYS ARE HAVE TRADITIONALLY BEEN A A VERY, VERY HOT TOPIC. AND WE IT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ADDRESSED. IT CAN BE A SLIPPERY SLOPE WHEN THEY'RE STEEP. SO YEAH I KNOW THERE'S SOME AGAIN IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE THEY'RE IMPRACTICAL. AND IT'S JUST IT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED AT SOME POINT PUTTING A DEGREE LIMITATION ON HOW STEEP THEY CAN BE, BECAUSE IT'S THEY'RE JUST NOT THEY'RE NOT DOABLE. THIS CERTAINLY IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WE CAN OPEN UP DRIVEWAYS. AGAIN. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY DIRECTLY RELATED TO THIS BECAUSE THERE'S A THERE'S A SEPARATE SECTION. BUT IF WE WANT TO OPEN THAT, THAT THING UP AGAIN. BUT I CAN TELL YOU IT'S BEEN BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S BEEN CHEWED ON AS A LIMIT OF 18%. SO AND I MEAN, EVEN THAT'S STEEP. BUT WE'VE GOT SOME IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE WAY OVER THAT. SO THEY'RE ALMOST TO THE POINT WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE CAR GOES UP THE DRIVEWAY, THEY'RE DRAGGING EVERY TIME THEY GO UP. THEY PUT STUFF AT THE CURBS TO, YOU KNOW, LEVEL IT OUT SOME. BUT THEY'RE I MEAN, THEY'RE JUST THEY'RE TOO STEEP. AND THEN WE'VE ALSO GOT SLOPING SIDEWALK, SLOPING STAIRS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TOO. SO. IT'S LIKE IT'S LIKE A SIDEWALK THAT THEY TOOK DOWN THE STREET, BUT THEY'VE GOT A LITTLE STEP EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE IN IT, BUT IT ALL SLOPES. YOU'RE SAYING THE SIDEWALK HAS STAIRS IN IT? YEAH. IT'S NOT FROM THE FROM THE HOUSE, FROM THE STRUCTURE TO THE STREET. YOU SAY, OKAY, NOT NOT LIKE NOT PARALLEL TO THE ADA PROBLEMS. THAT'S NOT NOT PARALLEL PROBLEM. YEAH. OKAY. SO THE NEXT THING IS THERE ARE VARIOUS ADJUSTMENTS TO LOT COVERAGE AREA, PARTICULARLY ON SOME OF THE THE THINGS LIKE SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT ALLOWING A SLIGHTLY LARGER LOT COVERAGE AREA. WE'VE RAN INTO SOME ISSUES, PARTICULARLY IN IN SOME SMALLER LOT DEVELOPMENTS WHERE WE'VE WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH THAT IN THE PAST. AND SO KIND OF MOVING TO TO ADDRESS THAT, WHEN YOU SAY SMALLER LOTS, WHAT KIND OF ACREAGE ARE WE LOOKING AT? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE WITH, WITH TOWNHOMES OR WHEN YOU'RE GETTING REAL CLOSE TO LIKE 6000FT■S OR 5000FT■S, KD OF IN THAT RANGE. MORE NARROW LOTS ARE PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH. HOWEVER, WE'RE NOT REALLY NOT NECESSARILY ADJUSTING A LOT OF THE, A LOT OF NOT PROPOSING TO REALLY ADJUST A LOT OF THE, THE LOT WIDTH OR LOT SIZE REQUIREMENTS NECESSARILY IN HERE, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE, THERE ARE SOME THINGS SUCH AS WITH IN. FOR FOR EXAMPLE WITH SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED TOWNHOMES ALLOWING A A LOT SIZE DOWN TO ABOUT 2400FT■S. THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY ALLOW YOU MORE OF A NOT NOT SO MUCH AN OBLONG LOT, BUT IT DOES ALLOW FOR, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY NOT TO HAVE A LOT, A LOT BECAUSE YOU'RE HAVING SOMETHING LIKE A 24 FOOT WIDE OR 30 FOOT WIDE TOWNHOME THAT GOES HAS A LITTLE BIT OF YARD IN THE FRONT, A LITTLE BIT OF YARD IN THE BACK AS WELL. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS IN HERE THAT THAT IS DISCUSSED WITH THE WITH THE THE IDEA OF IMPOSING MULTIFAMILY DESIGN STANDARDS WOULD BE FOR ESSENTIALLY LARGE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS, ALLOWING A SLIGHTLY LARGER OR [00:30:01] HIGHER DENSITY REQUIREMENT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE OBSERVED, LOOKING AT DIFFERENT APARTMENT COMPLEXES IS IF YOU LOOK IN SOME OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES, LIKE IN IN WEST LITTLE ROCK, SOME OF THE ONES ALONG CANAL OR BOWMAN, THAT MIGHT HAVE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER DENSITY, THAT OFTENTIMES COMES WITH ADDITIONAL AMENITIES, THINGS LIKE COVERED PARKING AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS TO THE POINT TO WHERE IF YOU GOT A THREE BEDROOM APARTMENT IN SOME OF THOSE, IT'S OFTENTIMES MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THAN A MORTGAGE IS OFTENTIMES WHAT YOU SEE. AND SO PROVIDING SOME ALLOWANCE FOR SOME INCREASE IN DENSITY, UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE REQUIRING SORT OF SOME DESIGN STANDARDS THAT THEN PROBABLY ADDITIONALLY COME WITH SOME SOME HIGHER QUALITY AMENITIES AS WELL. AND THEN LET ME SEE WHAT ELSE, WHAT ELSE IN HERE. THOSE ARE REALLY THE, THE, THE MAIN THINGS WITH THAT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS? LIKE I SAID, THAT THE THE LENGTH, THE TREE PLANTING REQUIREMENTS. IT SOUNDS LIKE IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S SOME WE DON'T WANT TO MESS WITH THE THE SIDEWALK REQUIREMENTS. OKAY. I'M NOT AM I GETTING THE GENERAL. YEAH I'M THAT'S MY OPINION. I MEAN ONE ONE THROUGH A FEW SUBDIVISIONS THAT THEY JUST DIDN'T LIKE. LIKE YOU TALK ABOUT HIGHER DENSITY FOR MULTIFAMILY. BUT YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT BOWMAN AND CHANEL AND STUFF. RIGHT. BUT THE PRICE PER SQUARE FEET PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO PAY OVER THERE VERSUS TO HERE. SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT TOO. WELL, WE'VE THERE'S THE POINT ON NORTH HILLS TOO, RIGHT THERE BY TARGET ON THAT BIG APARTMENT COMPLEX. RIGHT. THAT'S SAME PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE ONES THAT ON BOWMAN. AND I MEAN, THEY'VE GOT A THEY'VE GOT POOLS, THEY'VE GOT MOVIE THEATERS. THERE'S A COOKING CLASS DEMONSTRATION COOKING AREA IN THE BUILDING. THEY'VE GOT WINE CELLARS, YOU KNOW, GRILLS YOU CAN RENT. THERE'S OFFICES YOU CAN RENT, CONFERENCE ROOMS. I MEAN, ALL THIS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF AMENITIES THAT COME WITH THOSE UNITS. I'M LOOKING FROM BOTH SIDES. IF THERE IS A DEVELOPER WHO'S GOING TO BUILD THAT, ARE PEOPLE INSURED, ARE WILLING TO RENT FOR X NUMBER OF DOLLARS, THEY'RE THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY FOR IT RIGHT THERE IN NORTH LITTLE ROCK. I WOULD THINK THEY WOULD HERE TOO, IF IT WAS A NICE COMPLEX. ABSOLUTELY. AND AGAIN, THERE'S THERE'S NOT A LOT OF AREAS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ZONED. THREE, I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF ADDITIONAL AREAS THAT ARE ZONED ZONED R4, BUT IT IS KIND OF SORT OF ANTICIPATING THAT THERE MIGHT BE REQUESTS IN THE FUTURE AND AND DEALING WITH HOW HOW WE WOULD, HOW WE WOULD NECESSARILY APPROACH THAT. NOT NOT THAT. I MEAN, IT'S NOT LET ME BE CLEAR. THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING. IT'S JUST TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING, TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS HAPPEN IN A VERY HIGH QUALITY WAY. AND THESE STANDARDS WOULD GIVE US THE ABILITY THAT IF SOMEONE WANTED TO COME IN HERE AND BUILD A HIGH END MULTI-FAMILY COMPLEX, WE COULD DO IT HERE IN SHERWOOD. YES. OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. WHICH I THINK IS IMPORTANT, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT BUILT INTO OUR, OUR SCHEME OF THINGS BECAUSE YEAH, CURRENTLY THEY'RE IN THE WAY THAT R3 IS CURRENTLY STRUCTURED. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PROTECTIONS OR REQUIREMENTS THAT EXIST WITH THAT. SO IT IT IS ESSENTIALLY ALLOWING SOME INCREASED DENSITY. BUT WITH THAT COMES INCREASED QUALITY AS WELL. OKAY. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. IS THIS SORT OF SOMETHING YOU'RE LIKE KEEP MOVING FORWARD ON THIS. GOOD IDEA. BAD IDEA? I WOULD ABSOLUTELY SAY YES. I READING THROUGH THIS, IT GOT ME JAZZED BECAUSE THIS TYPE OF STUFF MAKES US MORE COMPETITIVE ECONOMICALLY, RESIDENTIALLY. AND I'M JUST LOOKING AT LIKE DATA AND DATA IS TRUE. IT'S FACTS. AND SHERWOOD IS GROWING A LOT FASTER THAN WE SEE. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO TO PREPARE FOR LIKE 20, 50 YEARS DOWN THE FUTURE. SO ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS. GREAT JOB ON IT, JAMES. I DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE CONTRIBUTED, BUT DID ALL THE PLANNING STAFF, ALL THE PLANNING STAFF, GREAT JOB PLANNING STAFF. BUT YEAH, THIS IS A WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO CONTINUE EXPLORING THIS AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. OKAY. SO WITH WITH THAT, DO YOU WANT HIM TO BRING IT BACK WITH THE FEW THINGS WE'VE DISCUSSED TONIGHT [00:35:02] AS REVISIONS AND HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING NEXT MONTH OR YOU I DON'T THINK WE'LL BE I DON'T THINK WE'LL BE QUITE READY FOR ACTUAL FOR ACTUAL REGULATORY STUFF. OKAY. ONE OF THE THINGS WE WILL HAVE TO DO IS GO THROUGH AND DO A TOTAL AUDIT OF ALL OF THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THOSE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS AND SEE IF THERE IF THOSE CAN WOULD BE CONTINUE TO BE APPROPRIATE IN THOSE IN THOSE DISTRICTS OR NOT. ARE THERE AREAS WHERE POTENTIAL CONSOLIDATION. SO THERE'S STILL SOME EVALUATION AND CONSTRUCTION. THIS IS REALLY LARGELY IN THE, I WOULD SAY, A WET CONCRETE IDEA. YOU KNOW, THERE'S STILL STUFF WE CAN MOVE AROUND, BUT IT'S WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT A STRUCTURE TO WORK WITH. ADDITIONALLY, WE'LL BE TAKING THIS TO COUNCIL TO KIND OF GET THEIR THEIR FEEDBACK AND INPUT, SEE WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ON IT. AGAIN, BECAUSE IT'S THIS IS REALLY ULTIMATELY VERY OPEN. THIS IS AS A DISCUSSION. IT'S NOT REALLY MEANT, YOU KNOW, WE JUST SAW A PROBLEM AND ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS A PARTICULAR ISSUE. ONE THING I MIGHT SUGGEST TO IS ON THIS CHART YOU GOT ON HERE, INDICATE WHAT A, P AND C FOR I WROTE YEAH, I WROTE THAT IN MY NOTES. I HAD THAT VERY SAME. RIGHT. I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S APPROVED YOU KNOW. YES. YEAH THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE GOT. YOU GOT PLANNERS GOING INTO OUR OWN LITTLE PLANNER MODE. THE. YEAH. AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT ALL DAY LONG. YOU UNDERSTAND IT. BUT WHEN YOU HAND IT TO SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT SEEING IT, THEY'RE GOING LIKE WHAT WHAT WHAT? YOU KNOW. SO A A MEANS ACCESSORY USE OKAY C MEANS CONDITIONAL USE. SO THAT THAT IS OBVIOUSLY PERMITTED AFTER A PUBLIC HEARING BY YOU GUYS. AND THEN PERMIT THEN P IS PERMITTED BY. RIGHT. AND SO ESSENTIALLY IT'S WHAT YOU WHAT YOU NOTICE THERE IS YOU'VE GOT R-1 AND IT'S, IT'S THERE'S VERY FEW THINGS THAT ARE ALLOWED. R2 IS STILL PRETTY RESTRICTED. AND IT JUST OPENS UP AS YOU GO ALONG. AND THEN THE RT, RT VERSUS R1 IS, AGAIN, IT'S ONE THAT ADDS TOWNHOMES. BUT THEN IT ALSO YOU ALSO AGAIN HAVE THIS HIGHER QUALITY, HIGHER QUALITY REQUIREMENT THAT GOES WITH IT AS WELL. BUT THE RT AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING WHERE THE DEVELOPER COMES TO THE CITY AND SAYS WE WANT TO DO THIS. CORRECT. I'VE GOT 100 ACRES RIGHT HERE. I WANT TO DEVELOP AND I WANT IT TO BE AN RT NEIGHBORHOOD. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. SO THERE WOULD NOT BE ANYWHERE THAT WOULD BE ZONED THAT IT WOULD, THEY'D HAVE TO COME AND REQUEST IT. OKAY. AND THEN THE CITY WILL DECIDES OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION DECIDES WHAT'S THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE LOT AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND I MEAN, THAT'LL BE THAT'LL BE BAKED INTO THE, THE, THE STRUCTURE OF THE ZONING. SO IT KIND OF WHAT RESTS BETWEEN WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE IN JUST A TRADITIONAL R-1 DISTRICT AND A PUD. BUT IT'S IT'S GOT SOME ADDITIONAL BAKED IN REQUIREMENTS. IF I, IF I HAD A WAY TO DESCRIBE IT, IT WOULD BE SORT OF MORE LIKE A TRADITIONAL OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD. IF YOU CAN THINK ABOUT PARK HILL, HILLCREST, THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR WITH THAT. BUT OBVIOUSLY A NEW FORM, THINGS LIKE VILLAGE AT HENDRIX, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE ONE BY THE RIVER? I SAID, ROCK, WATER, ROCK WATER, WATER, WATER VILLAGE. YEAH. IT'S ANOTHER ONE THAT I THINK IS REALLY NICE. YEAH. OKAY. ALRIGHTY. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL THEN WE'LL WAIT FOR IT TO COME BACK. OKAY. IS THERE ANY NEW BUSINESS? SEEING? NONE. ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND. EVANS I PATEL. HI. HI. MARTIN. WILLIA * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.