May 18, 2026 City Council

[Call To Order]

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18TH AT 6 P.M. IT'S TIME FOR OUR MAY SHORT SHERWOOD CITY COUNCIL MEETING. AND THANK YOU

[1. Prayer led by Christian Assembly of God Pastor Hugh Yarbrough]

FILL THEM WITH COMPASSION AND COURAGE. LET JUSTICE AND INTEGRITY PREVAIL. SURROUND THEM WITH GODLY COUNSEL AND PROTECT THEM FROM THOSE WITH ILL INTENT. AND MAY THEIR LEADERSHIP HONOR YOU AND BRING PEACE AND PROGRESS TO OUR CITY. LORD, I PRAY YOU'LL PLACE A HEDGE OF PROTECTION AROUND OUR CITY. GUARD EVERY HOME, SCHOOL AND WORKPLACE FROM HARM. LET YOUR ANGELS PATROL OUR STREETS AND BRING SAFETY TO EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD. PROTECT OUR POLICE OFFICERS, OUR FIREFIGHTERS, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR CHILDREN AND TRAVELERS FROM DANGER. REMOVE VIOLENCE AND ACCIDENTS AND FEAR FROM OUR MIDST. WE TRUST YOU AS OUR REFUGE AND SHIELD, AND MAY YOUR PEACE AND SAFETY COVER OUR CITY ALWAYS. LORD, UNITE THE HEARTS OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR CITY. REMOVE DIVISION AND PRIDE AND HATE. LET YOUR SPIRIT BIND US TOGETHER WITH UNDERSTANDING AND LOVE. HELP US TO FIND COMMON GROUND WORKING TOGETHER TOWARD PEACE AND JUSTICE. TEACH US TO SERVE ONE ANOTHER AS NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS, AND THANK YOU FOR MAKING US ALL IN YOUR IMAGE. MAY BROTHERLY LOVE REIGN SUPREME IN OUR CITY. LORD, BLESS YOUR CHURCH IN THIS CITY. STRENGTHEN EVERY PASTOR, LEADER, AND BELIEVER TO STAND FIRM IN THE FAITH. LET THE CHURCH BE A LIGHT IN DARK PLACES AND A REFUGE FOR THE HURTING. UNITE EVERY CONGREGATION IN LOVE AND PURPOSE AND AROUND THE WORD OF GOD. MAY REVIVAL FLOW THROUGH YOUR PEOPLE AND TRANSFORM OUR CITY FOR YOUR GLORY. IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, OUR LORD AND SAVIOR. AMEN. AMEN. PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ROLL CALL, PLEASE. BROOKS. HERE. WILLIAMS. HERE. BRODERICK. HERE. THOMAS. PRESENT. WADE. HERE. MCCULLOUGH.

HERE. TOWNSEND. HERE. TREAT. HERE. IF I COULD PLEASE HAVE OUR. AMERICAN LEGION AUXILIARY

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SO AS YOU SEE THEM AROUND THE COMMUNITY, IF YOU GET AN OPPORTUNITY, PLEASE PURCHASE A POPPY FROM THEM AND PROUDLY DISPLAY IT. DONATE, DONATE, DON'T PURCHASE. JUST DONATE. I THINK THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU GUYS. THANK.

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AND THEN WE HAVE, I THINK, FIVE STUDENT ATHLETES GOING ON TO DO TRACK IN COLLEGE, AND WE'LL RECOGNIZE THEM AS WELL. SO OUR ALL STATERS KEENAN MORRIS IN THE HIGH JUMP. KEENAN IS ALSO OUR SCHOOL RECORD HOLDER. HE WENT SIX EIGHT THIS SEASON. WHO. NEXT UP IS DARIUS FOWLKES. ALL STATE TRIPLE JUMP. DARIUS IS ALSO A SCHOOL RECORD HOLDER IN THE TRIPLE JUMP. HE JUMPED 47FT SEVEN INCHES. AND I THINK JEFF HENDERSON'S OLD SYLVAN HILLS RECORD WAS 473. AND HE MIGHT HAVE GONE ON TO BE AN OLYMPIAN, SO THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. OUR 4X4 HUNDRED MEN'S RELAY TEAM, DILLON BROOKS, JACKSON DOWDY, AIDEN JORDAN AND ANTONIO REED ALL STATE 4X4 HUNDRED RELAY TEAM. ALSO A SCHOOL RECORD THREE MINUTES 24. SECONDS. YEAH, WELL, ANTONIO'S UP HERE. HE IS ALSO A SCHOOL RECORD HOLDER IN THE 800M A MINUTE 59. SKYLAR WALKER, TRIPLE JUMPER, ALL STATE. TRIPLE JUMPS. HE'S VERY CONFUSING TO. AND I DON'T THINK SHE'S HERE. BUT PARIS GILBERT IS AN ALL-STATE 200 METER RUNNER. SO I THINK WE GOT MOST OF THE SCHOOL RECORD HOLDERS

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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOU DO FOR THE KIDS. THANK YOU THANK YOU. AND IF Y'ALL GO OVER THERE SO WE CAN DO A QUICK PHOTO FOR THE SOCIAL MEDIA. COME ON. HAVE A SHORT PERSON. I CENTERED THEM UP A LITTLE. THEY'RE NOT. SO. HEY, CURTIS, COME UP HERE. COME ON. HEY. I CALLED YOUR NAME, I. WAS GOING TO COME ON DOWN. COME HERE. SHE GOT A CHALLENGE FOR. AND HE'S GOING TO HENDERSON. GOOD JOB EVERYONE. AND WE'LL GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO EXIT. YEAH, I PICKED THAT UP LITERALLY. I'M LIKE, I GRABBED IT AND AS SOON AS I MADE A STEP, IT WENT AND I WAS LIKE, I HAVE NO TALENT ON MY WAY OVER HERE. I KNOW. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S THE FUN PART OF THE MEETING. SO WE ARE GOING TO GET ON WITH THE MEETING. YOU ALL RECEIVED THE MINUTES FROM

[4. Approval of the minutes of the regular called meeting on April 27, 2026, as transcribed]

PLEASE TREAT. ABSTAIN. BROOKS. I WEIGHED I BRODERICK I MCCULLOUGH I TOWNSEND. ABSTAIN.

WILLIAMS I THOMAS I AT THIS TIME I'M ASKING THAT WE SUSPEND THE RULES AND ALLOW FOR AN ITEM TEN WHICH IS THE A RESOLUTION EXPRESSING THE WILLINGNESS OF THE CITY OF SHERWOOD SHERWOOD TO UTILIZE THE FEDERAL AID TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM FUNDS. AND I WOULD NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO DO. SO MOVED. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BROOKS AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS TREAT, I. BROOKS I WADE I BRODERICK MCCULLOUGH I TOWNSEND I WILLIAMS I THOMAS I OKAY, SO IF Y'ALL WILL PLEASE ADD THAT

[5. April 2026 Financials]

[6. Committees/Commissions]

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SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THIS UP TONIGHT. WE JUST DID THAT TO BE PREPARED IN CASE IT DID PASS SO THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE DELAYED. BUT WE PULL IT OFF THE AGENDA. YES. IT NEEDS TO COME OFF LIKE A MOTION TO PULL THAT OFF. YOU DON'T YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT. NO ACTION. PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN SHELBY THOMAS YEAH, WE DID MEET. YOU GUYS. HAVE YOUR MINUTES BEFORE YOU. ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS THE THE MUSIC POLICY.

THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION TD IT BACK TO TO SEE IF THEIR OWN JUDGMENT, AS FAR AS IF THE MUSIC IS TOO LOUD OR WHERE THEY CAN PLAY IT WELL THROUGH THE THROUGH THE NORMAL DANCE. WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT. THE AGE FOR THE SENIOR CENTER, NOT SENIOR CENTER FOR, BUT FOR BILL HARMON.

WE TALKED. WE. YES. YEAH. NO, NO, FOR BILL HARMON, BILL HARMON, WE HAD IT WAS LIKE IT WAS 50 FOR THE DISCOUNT FOR SENIOR FOR SENIOR RATE. WE. WE TOOK THAT OFF BECAUSE AFTER WE LOOKED AT, WE SPENT LIKE FOUR MONTHS LOOKING AT IT AND THERE JUST WASN'T IT WASN'T GOING TO NET ANY GAIN FOR THE CITY. SO WE JUST TOOK THAT OFF JUST SO WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IT ANYMORE. KICKING IT DOWN THE ROAD. OKAY. CAN I, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YES, I HAD AN EMAIL.

I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY GOT THE EMAIL, BUT WILL YOU PROVIDE SOME CLARITY? I HAD A RESIDENT CONTACT ME AND SHE ORIGINALLY ASKED FOR IT TO BE ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA. I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL. YEAH, BUT THIS IS MY UNDERSTANDING. SO IF YOU COULD CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THERE, THERE ENDED UP BEING A POLICY ASKING PARTICIPANTS TO USE EAR EARBUDS, EARPHONES AND NOT PLAY MUSIC OUT LOUD. SO THERE WAS IT WAS GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA FOR PARKS AND REC. SHE THOUGHT IT WAS KIND OF A NO BRAINER, SO TO SPEAK. I KIND OF DID TOO, AND I THOUGHT THE POLICY WOULD BE UPHELD. AND HER UNDERSTANDING, IF I UNDERSTAND HER, HER INTERPRETATION TO ME WAS THAT THAT IS BEING REVISED. AND SO PEOPLE CAN LISTEN TO MUSIC OUT LOUD, EXCEPT FOR ONE HOUR BETWEEN 2 AND 3. CORRECT? CORRECT. THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE CHAOS. IT'S IT'S ACTUALLY HAVING COACHED IN THERE A JILLION YEARS. IS THAT FOR UPSTAIRS TWO THOUGH? NO, THIS IS JUST THIS IS JUST POOL AIR ONLY. AND IT'S IT'S VERY DIFFICULT, AS THEY EXPLAINED, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE EARBUDS IN THOSE TYPE OF THINGS WHEN YOU'RE IN THE POOL. AND THEY TALKED A LOT AND YOU CAN SPEAK TO THAT ABOUT THE SOCIALIZATION AND WHY THAT MUSIC IS. WE DON'T HAVE THE POOL, JUST THE POOL. JUST IN THE POOL AREA. THERE WAS A GROUP THAT CAME TO SPEAK. THEY HAVE A GROUP THAT MEETS AND THEY SOCIALIZE AROUND THE MUSIC PLAYING AND SWIMMING. AND SO WHAT WE CAME UP WITH THAT THERE WOULD JUST BE HOURS THAT THEY COULD DO THAT, BUT THEN THE REGULAR HOURS WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED. AND WE'LL POLICE THAT FROM AND MAKE MODIFICATIONS AS NEEDED. POSSIBLY. WE HAD HAD ONE COMPLAINT IN ALL THESE YEARS, AND THEN WE HAD A CONSIDERABLE GROUP THAT CAME AND SAID HOW MUCH THEY ENJOY.

LOOK FORWARD TO IT. IT HELPS THEM TO MOVE AND TO TO FEEL MORE ALIVE IN THE POOL AND SO FORTH. AND WHEN YOU'RE SWIMMING, DOING LAPS, YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T YOU CAN'T REALLY HEAR A WHOLE LOT. IT'S MORE FOR THE, THE WALKERS THAN IT IS FOR LIKE THOSE WHO ARE ACTUALLY SWIMMING.

BUT I WAS, I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS A GROUP. I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION IT WAS ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO WANTED TO LISTEN TO THEIR MUSIC AND IT. I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS A GROUP. IT'S OKAY. YEAH. AND THEY. AND THEY CAME AT THE PARKS AND REC. SHELBY JUST IN. BILL HARMON WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOT OUT IN THE IN THE THORNHILL POOL FAIRWAY POOL. THIS IS THE. NO.

YEAH. INDOOR POOL. YES. OKAY. SHELBY. ADDITIONALLY, I'M SURE THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF, I GUESS, PUBLIC QUESTIONING ABOUT THE CITY'S DECISION TO GO CASHLESS. SO I'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE REACH OUT TO ME. CAN YOU HIT ON THAT? SO MAYBE WE CAN GET THAT OUT TO THE GREATER POPULATION THROUGH OUR MEETING. SO THAT WOULD THAT WAS BROUGHT UP DURING OUR MEETING AS WELL.

I'LL LET BLAKE SPEAK TO THAT. YOU KNOW, WE AND WE HAD TO MAKE AN IMMEDIATE DECISION TO GO

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AND THAT WAS DONE PRETTY, PRETTY QUICKLY. WE REACHED OUT TO THE PARTICIPANTS OF THE LEAGUE TO LET THEM KNOW. WE REACHED OUT TO THE HIGH SCHOOL COACHES TO LET THEM KNOW. WE SCRAMBLED AROUND TO GET THE SIGNS ON THE ON THE WINDOWS THAT EVERY ONE OF OUR LOCATIONS.

WE ALSO HAD TO CHANGE WHAT WE WERE DOING AS FAR AS AT THE REGISTERS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE AND LET OUR STAFF KNOW. ONE THING I WILL SAY IS I DO APOLOGIZE FOR NOT LETTING YOU ALL KNOW. I FEEL LIKE IT WAS A. I THINK EVERYBODY DOES A DECISION THAT WE HAD TO MAKE AND MOVING FORWARD WITH HOW WE'RE DOING THINGS OUT THERE. CAN YOU TELL WHY? I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY'S ASKING. WHY WAS IT NECESSARY? CAN YOU CAN YOU CLARIFY? WE WE CANNOT AT THIS TIME. EXCUSE ME. GET WE CANNOT AT THIS TIME. BUT THE CITY WILL BE MAKING A STATEMENT ONCE WE ARE ABLE TO. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS, ALEX? IT WAS JUST KIND OF STRANGE BECAUSE WE JUST HAD THIS LAST MONTH. THREE WEEKS AGO, WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND I SAID, THANK YOU FOR KEEPING THE CASH. THAT WOULD PROBABLY SHOW YOU THAT THERE WAS AN INCIDENT.

OKAY. AND THEN I WANT TO COMPLIMENT BLAKE BECAUSE HE AT LEAST WHEN THIS HAPPENED, HE CALLED ME KNOWING THAT WE JUST HAD THAT DIALOG AT THE MEETING A MONTH AGO AND SAID, JUST YOU NEED TO KNOW BECAUSE YOU WERE SO MUCH FOR THE CASH BEING INCLUDED. SO I FEEL LIKE TO I FEEL LIKE THE FASTER WE CAN LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THE BETTER, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE FROM A CITY'S PERSPECTIVE, EXCUSE ME, PERSPECTIVE, IT LOOKS LIKE A LACK OF TRANSPARENCY BECAUSE WE DID JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO, HIT ON THE FACT THAT WE DO WANT TO KEEP IT CASHLESS FOR THE KIDS SO THEY CAN TAKE THEIR $3 AND GO BUY THEIR HOT DOG OR THEIR PEPSI OR WHATEVER. SO TO HAVE SUCH A QUICK WHIPLASH OF AN OPPOSITE DECISION MADE, I FEEL LIKE THE QUICKER THE CITY CAN ADDRESS THAT, THE BETTER. AGREE. I AGREE WITH YOU, AND I THINK THAT I DO ALSO THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE ALL BEEN INFORMED INSTEAD OF HEARING ABOUT IT. BACKLASH ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS. PHONE CALLS HAVE BEEN CRAZY. I GUESS QUEEN BEVERLY GOT TO KNOW. BUT YOU KNOW, WELL, ONLY BECAUSE WE HAD THE DIALOG AT THE MEETING. I'M JOKING, I'M JOKING. BUT I DO THINK THAT IT WOULD BE BEST IF EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE BEEN INFORMED. AND THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF BACKLASH ON SOCIAL MEDIA A LOT. AND I THINK IF WE HAD GOTTEN AHEAD OF IT INSTEAD OF BEHIND IT, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER. ALEX, DO YOU WANT TO? WELL, I JUST SAY WHAT YOU CAN SAY. I WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK WE CAN'T DISCUSS THE DETAILS, OBVIOUSLY FOR NOW, ALTHOUGH I THINK ONCE WE ARE ABLE TO SPEAK FREELY ABOUT IT, SOME PEOPLE MAY BE DISAPPOINTED. HOW UNDERWHELMING THE INCIDENT WAS. NONETHELESS, IT DOES REQUIRE US TO. WHEN I WAS ASKED TO REVIEW WHAT WE DO, HOW WE DO IT, AND FOR DECADES, WHAT HAD BEEN HAPPENING IN THE CITY IN TERMS OF HANDLING CASH HAD BEEN WORKING UNTIL YOU HAD A CHANGE OF PERSONNEL AND A CHANGE OF SYSTEMS THAT TRANSACT AT THE LOCATIONS. AND IT REQUIRES NOW A A RETRAINING OF SOME INDIVIDUALS. AND BEYOND THAT, I DON'T FEEL THAT I CAN SAY VERY MUCH BECAUSE IT MAY, MAY OR MAY NOT AFFECT THEM. AND, AND I WILL SAY TOO, ONCE WE WENT TO. THERE WAS NOT IN THE IN THE HISTORY OF THE BALLPARK, NOT A WHOLE LOT OF. OVERSIGHT ON SOME THINGS THAT WERE OCCURRING OVER THERE. AND ONCE WE PUT A NEW SYSTEM IN PLACE THAT ENDED UP BRINGING SOME OF THE THINGS TO LIGHT, AND THEN. YOU KNOW, SOMETHING, OF COURSE, THAT WE CANNOT TALK ABOUT AT THIS TIME.

LET ME ASK A QUESTION THEN WHILE IT'S NOT BEING LOOKED INTO. SO JUST LEAVE IT. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE POINT OF SERVICE CHARGES? ARE WE GOING TO BE NOW LOSING MONEY? BECAUSE WHAT SOME OF THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS I RECEIVED FROM YOUNG MEN, I THOUGHT THIS WAS GOING TO BE GENERATIONAL. THE WHAT IS YOUR PHRASE? THE SENIORS, THE SENIOR CITIZENS? NO, THAT'S NOT THE COMMENT WAS THAT SO MANY OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE WERE DOING THE THE CASH AS WELL. BUT THEY SAID

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BUT YES, BUILT IN THE PRICE OF THE GOODS. OBVIOUSLY A GOOD PRICE WILL GO UP OR NO. YEAH.

GOTCHA. GOTCHA. IT'S GOT TO GO UP. OKAY. THEY JUST WISH YOU STILL HAD BOTH. DON'T DISAGREE.

THEY WERE NOT HAPPY. UNFORTUNATELY. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. AND AS WE KNOW, THIS IS FOR THE VERY SAME REASONS WHY ALMOST ALL BALLPARKS HAVE GONE THIS WAY. WHY WHEN YOU GO TO DICKEY-STEPHENS, IT'S THIS WAY. COLLEGE STADIUMS, PROFESSIONAL CONCERTS AND SO FORTH. I WISH IT WASN'T THIS WAY, BUT BUT THIS IS LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND AND AND I AGREE WITH MISS WILLIAMS BECAUSE YOU GO TO DICKEY-STEPHENS, YOU'RE PAYING $8 FOR A BEER AND $5 FOR A HOT DOG OR WHATEVER, AND YOU'RE NOT PAYING THAT OUT HERE. WHAT I WOULD ASK IS, SINCE WE ARE. I WAS NOT AWARE OF ALL THIS AS FAR AS THE GOLF COURSE AND ALL THIS. YOU'RE PAYING ALL THIS. I WOULD ASK THAT FROM NOW ON THAT WE HAVE A SEPARATE LINE ITEM IN OUR EXPENSES IS WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR THE POS FOR ALL OF OUR FEES, FOR ALL THE ALL SYSTEMS FOR FOR THE GOLF COURSE, FOR THE BALLPARK, FOR ANY OTHER EVERYTHING I WANT, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE PAY IN POS FEES FOR EVERY DEPARTMENT, FOR EVERY DEPARTMENT. WELL, IT CAN BE CREATED, BUT IT DOESN'T EXIST CURRENTLY. YEAH, IT CURRENTLY COMES. IT'S NOT. I DON'T THINK IT COMES BEING BROKEN DOWN INTO EVERY SINGLE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT AND SO FORTH. IT'S A, IT'S A LIGHT ITEM FOR THE WHOLE CITY. CORRECT. OKAY. WELL, IS THAT, IS THAT CURRENTLY LISTED ON OUR. IT IS NOT OKAY. I WOULD LIKE, I WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE ON OUR EXPENSES FOR EACH MONTH THEN. AND, AND I THINK WE. AND IF YOU CANNOT BREAK IT DOWN BY DEPARTMENT, THEN JUST PUT IT ON OUR. MAKE A LINE ITEM, A SINGLE LINE ITEM, THEN I DON'T THINK THAT WE ARE AWARE OF HOW MUCH WE SPEND IN POS CHARGES. YEP. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN EVEN TELL THAT BECAUSE IT JUST COMES AS ONE. I'LL NEED TO LOOK INTO THAT AND I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH YOU TO SEE HOW THOSE EXPENSES COME IN AND HOW THEY CAN BE PRESENTED. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE IN ORDER TO PRESENT IT IN A MONTHLY EXPENSES. AS YOU SAY, I'LL NEED TO CREATE IT IN THE SYSTEM, WHICH IT CAN BE DONE, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I'VE DONE IN THE PAST WITH OUR EXPENSES. AND SO I'LL NEED TO LOOK INTO THAT. SURE. I MEAN, JUST AND IT'S NOTHING NEW.

WE'VE BEEN TAKING CREDIT CARDS IN THE CITY NOW FOR A WHILE. AND SO THIS IS NOT BUT THE DIFFERENCE IN ALLOWING IT AND REQUIRING IT. WE ALLOW CREDIT CARDS, BUT NOW WE'RE REQUIRING THEM. ALEX, I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. YEAH. I HAD ONE MORE QUESTION. I'LL ASK MINE WHILE YOU'RE I'LL ASK MINE WHILE YOU'RE TRYING TO REMEMBER YOURS, IS THERE A REASON SPECIFICALLY WHY WE CANNOT DETERMINE WHAT DEPARTMENT. BECAUSE TO MOST POS SYSTEMS ARE DONE BY CATEGORIES.

WHAT DEPARTMENT? YES. IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE CAN'T HAVE A REPORT BASED ON THE DEPARTMENT, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE DEPARTMENTAL EXPENSES I WAS REFERRING TO? SO IT WOULD PROBABLY GO UNDER ADMINISTRATION. BUT WHAT I'M THINKING IS THAT THE EXPENSE COMES IN. IN TOTAL, THERE WILL BE A CHARGE PER TRANSACTION, BUT THEY WILL BE A TOTAL EXPENSE, WHICH WE CAN SHOW IN ANY ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS. WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT IN IN ORDER TO SHOW THAT AT A DEPARTMENTAL LEVEL, I WILL HAVE TO CREATE. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT STATEMENT BECAUSE WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DETERMINE WHAT IS PARKS AND REC, WHAT IS ADMIN? WHAT IS. PERMITS FREE? I MEAN, LIKE WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BREAK THAT OUT. I DON'T KNOW, TECHNICALLY YES, BUT WELL, I MEAN, WELL, IT WILL TAKE SOMEONE GOING THROUGH THE EXISTING CREDIT CARD STATEMENTS TO PARSE OUT WHICH ONE WHICH CHARGES BELONG WHERE. SO OUR POS SYSTEM IS NOT IS NOT SET UP TO DETERMINE LOCATION BY TRANSACTION. I DON'T KNOW, OURS

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WE, WE WILL ALSO GIVE YOU AN END OF SEASON TWO. WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THIS SO THAT YOU GUYS CAN SEE EXPENSES, PRODUCT, INCLUDING THE POS, THE NEXT STEP AND THE REVENUE THAT CAME IN. AND WE CAN ACTUALLY COMPARE THAT TO SOME PREVIOUS YEARS AS WELL, BECAUSE I KNOW GENERALLY WE LIKE TO LOOK BACK FOR, YOU KNOW, THREE, FIVE YEARS TYPE OF THING. SO YOU CAN SEE THE BIG NUMBER IS THE CONCESSION EXPENSE IS ONE LINE ITEM. YOU KNOW, THE CONCESSION CONCESSIONS REVENUE IS ONE LINE ITEM. IT DOESN'T BREAK DOWN THOSE NUMBERS. I THINK WHAT WE'VE ALSO BEEN ABLE TO FIND OUT IS THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO DO ON OUR END TO CLEAN UP WHAT WE'VE WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHAT WE'VE DONE TRADITIONALLY, BECAUSE EVERY YEAR THAT I'VE DONE THIS, THERE'S BEEN ONE LINE ITEM. AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT IS. THERE'S REVENUES.

THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THE EXPENSES. AND IT IS. THOSE ARE LARGE NUMBERS. IT DOES NOT TELL US THE STORY, AND NEITHER DOES IT TELL US THE STORY ON INVENTORY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. WE GOT A LONG WAY TO GO. I MEAN, IT WAS NEVER TRACKED. WE'RE WANTING TO TRACK IT. WE'RE WANTING TO TRACK INVENTORY, BUT WE DIDN'T RUN IT FOR YEARS. FOR 20 YEARS. NO, EVEN NO, WE WE, WE DID RUN PART OF IT. IT WAS, IT WAS THERE'S NOT SYSTEMS IN PLACE TO TRACK INVENTORY PURCHASED VERSUS INVENTORY SOLD. WE'VE GOT A LONG WAY TO GO. ALL RIGHT. THE, THE THING I WAS GOING TO SAY YOU NEED TO HAVE A PROCEDURE REGARDING NO POWER. SO HOW ARE YOU GOING TO RUN IF YOU KNOW THE MACHINES HAVE GONE OUT, YOU CAN STILL HAVE A BALL GAME ON A SATURDAY AFTERNOON.

SUNSHINE WITHOUT ELECTRICITY BECAUSE YOU DON'T NEED THE LIGHTS AND THEY CAN KEEP THE SCORE IN THE SCOREBOARD THERE. OR INTERNET. THAT'S RIGHT. INTERNET GOES OUT. SO YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE A PROCEDURE FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I MEAN, JUST DOWN HERE AT THE AT THE LOCAL NAIL SALON, I MEAN, NOT BEAUTIFUL DAY CAR HIT THE POLE.

ELECTRICITY'S OUT THERE AT 20 SOMETHING PEOPLE IN THERE. I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN PAY BECAUSE I HAD CASH AND CREDIT CARD. EVERYONE ELSE WAS CALLING PEOPLE TO BRING MONEY UP TO THEM SO THEY COULD LEAVE. I MEAN, BUT YOU GOTTA HAVE A WAY TO GET PAID. GOOD IDEA. THAT CAME FROM THE PARKS COMMITTEE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT AND THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE HADN'T THOUGHT OF. AND THAT IS LIKE PUNCH CARDS FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT COULD, YOU KNOW, PAY $20, GET A LITTLE PUNCH CARD TO COME TO THE CONCESSION STAND, SEND THEIR KIDS UP. THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE ALSO GOING TO LOOK AT. I MEAN, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT VENDING MACHINES AS AN OPTION AS WELL THAT PEOPLE CAN USE. WE'VE GOT A LONG WAY TO GO. OKAY. THIS IS THIS IS JUST THE START. JUST AS A KIND OF A PUNCH CARD IS A GOOD IDEA. THERE WAS A REASON FOR IT AND WE JUST CAN'T GET INTO THAT. SO I GUESS HERE'S A FAIR QUESTION IS WHEN CAN WHEN CAN THE COMMUNITY EXPECT TO GET AN ANSWER FROM THE CITY ON THIS? WHAT'S A FAIR TIMELINE, CHIEF? GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. MONICA. GOOD QUESTION. SORRY, I'M ON VACATION, I CAME BACK. I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE, CHIEF. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO THERE WAS A SO SO I'LL I'LL TELL YOU THIS. THERE WAS A THERE WAS AN INCIDENT WHERE THERE WAS SOME MONEY THAT WAS THAT WAS MISSING. AND WHEN WE FOUND OUT ABOUT IT, THE MAYOR CALLED ME AND WE INITIATED AN INVESTIGATION. AND, AND THAT'S NOT A SECRET THAT THE INVESTIGATION IS NOT A SECRET.

I MEAN, I'M NOT I THINK THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO. I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO TO PROTECT THE INVESTIGATION. BUT THAT'S I'M FINE WITH WITH Y'ALL KNOWING THAT. SO WE DO NOT BELIEVE AT THIS TIME. WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS ANY CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. WE DON'T BELIEVE ANYBODY STOLE ANYTHING. WHAT WE THINK WAS, IS THAT IT WAS JUST SOME FAULTY. AND I'M NOT GOING TO SAY ACCOUNTING BECAUSE ALEX AND HIM DO A GREAT JOB. BUT I THINK THAT WE WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE A GOOD SYSTEM IN PLACE. AND THE WAY THAT THAT MONEY WAS COUNTED DOWN WITH THE REGISTERS AND STUFF. AND THAT'S PRELIMINARY. I MEAN, WE DON'T WE WON'T KNOW FOR SURE UNTIL WE'VE, WE'VE WE'VE COMPLETED THAT INVESTIGATION. AND IT'S NOT IT'S NOT LIKE LIFE CHANGING MONEY THAT WAS MISSING, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE FELT LIKE WE NEEDED TO, WE NEEDED TO INVESTIGATE AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS NOT THEFT INVOLVED. AT THIS TIME, WE DON'T SEE ANY INDICATION THAT IT WAS THEFT. BUT BUT THAT'S THE THAT'S THAT'S WHAT'S THAT'S WHAT PROMPTED THIS. THE AND LOOK, YOU KNOW, AND I'LL SAY THIS, AND I'M NOT A I'M I DON'T SELL THINGS. I'M NOT A POINT OF SALE PERSON. SO I DON'T HAVE A CASH REGISTER IN THE BUILDING. SO IT'S EASY FOR ME TO SAY THIS, BUT WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR TAKING IN FUNDS AND ALEX CAN SPEAK TO THIS BETTER THAN ANYBODY. BUT WHEN YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR TAKING IN FUNDS, YOU HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S IN THERE. YOU HAVE TO ACCOUNT

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THERE'S NOT CONSISTENCY AT THAT. ONE PERSON'S AT A REGISTER ALL NIGHT. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A NUMEROUS PEOPLE THAT WORK THESE REGISTERS. THEY'RE NOT ALL, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT ALL PROBABLY PROPERLY TRAINED ON, ON THE USE OF THAT. AND THESE ARE JUST SOME THINGS THAT HAVE COME OUT OF THE INVESTIGATION THAT WE'RE LOOKING INTO. I THINK THAT THE IMMEDIATE, YOU KNOW, CALL TO GO TO THE CASHLESS SYSTEM WAS ONE THAT WAS MADE BASED ON BLAKE BLAKE'S EXPERTISE ABOUT WHAT OTHER CITIES DO, WHAT OTHER BALLPARKS DO. YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF COMMON PRACTICE. AND I THINK THAT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO WE'RE TRYING TO BE EFFICIENT AND WE'RE TRYING TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WITH THOSE FUNDS. AND AND I WILL TELL YOU THIS, AND THIS IS A CONCERN THAT I HAVE. WE HAVE UNDERAGE PEOPLE, MINORS THAT WORK UP THERE. AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT CONCERNING TO ME THAT WE HAVE CASH INSIDE. YOU KNOW, THE CONCESSION STANDS GOT BROKEN INTO THE OTHER NIGHT AND NO MONEY WAS STOLEN BECAUSE THERE WAS NO MONEY IN THERE.

BUT, BUT THERE WAS SOME DAMAGE DONE. AND IT CONCERNS ME THAT IF WE HAVE CASH IN THERE, THAT IT MAKES, YOU KNOW, LATE IN THE EVENING, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT ARE PART TIME EMPLOYEES UP THERE, I DON'T WANT TO PUT THEM IN DANGER. BUT THERE BEING CASH IN THERE, THAT'S THAT'S MY THOUGHT ABOUT IT. BUT I THINK OF THINGS IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, SAFETY AND SECURITY. I DON'T LOOK AT THINGS AS FAR AS CONVENIENCE. AND SO BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT WITH IT. AND, AND LIKE I SAY, AS OF NOW, WE HAVE SEEN NOTHING THAT WOULD INDICATE TO US THAT THERE WAS THEFT. IT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, SOME AND I KNOW BLAKE AND HIM WERE TRYING TO GET THOSE SYSTEMS IN PLACE AND, AND POLICIES DONE. AND, AND I THINK WHAT WE HAD WAS FOR YEARS AND YEARS, WE HAD THE SAME PEOPLE UP THERE AND THEY HAD A WAY OF DOING IT. AND IT WORKED. AND, AND THAT WAS FINE. BUT WHEN, WHEN THAT CHANGEOVER HAPPENED, ALL OF A SUDDEN IT GOT A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING. SO THAT'S THE BEST I CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION.

I HOPE THAT AND THANK YOU FOR SAYING BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN ASKED NOT TO. YEAH. SO SPEAK ON IT UNTIL THE INVESTIGATION IS COMPLETE. BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN. IT GETS BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT WE HAVE MONEY, THAT WE'RE SOMETHING IS REALLY OFF AND WE ARE BEING ASKED AS A CITY THAT I MEAN, IT IT IT'S JUST DO YOU CONTINUE DOWN THAT PATH WHERE WE COULD BE GOING DEEPER DOWN THAT HOLE? OR DO YOU TRY TO DO THE RESPONSIBLE THING THAT WE HAVE BEEN EXPLAINED TO YOU IS MORE OF A BEST PRACTICE OF NOT PUTTING THESE KIDS IN SITUATIONS WHERE NOW THEY HAVE TO BE INTERVIEWED AND. YOU KNOW, AND SO FORTH WITH IT. SO IT'S WE I WILL TELL YOU THAT AUSTIN BEING AT THE BALLPARK, HE'S A DAD AS WELL AS AN EMPLOYEE AND HE'S BEEN OUT THERE. AND THIS IS NOT THIS IS NOT UNUSUAL. THIS IS THE WAY I MEAN, CERTAINLY UP AT SCHOOLS ARE NOW GOING THIS WAY. AND IF THERE IF YOU HAVE APPLE PAY AND IT'S ATTACHED TO YOUR DEBIT CARD, THERE IS NO POS. NOT EVERYTHING GENERATES A POS, JUST THOSE THAT ARE THAT GO TO CREDIT CARD. BUT CERTAINLY WE WILL DO A FULL EVALUATION AT THE END AND WE CAN MAKE A BETTER STATEMENT ONCE EVERYTHING'S BEEN FULLY INVESTIGATED. RIGHT. ONE OTHER THING IF WE COULD, AND I'M LEAVING THE MONEY, BUT I THINK MISS BROOKS AND I BOTH RECEIVED SOME PICTURES REGARDING SOME PARKING AND SOME OF THE PLAYGROUND AREAS THAT PEOPLE ARE BEING ALLOWED TO PARK ON THE SOFTBALL FIELDS OR THE TEE BALL FIELDS AREA, AM I IT'S UP AT THE SOFTBALL CONCESSION STAND. THERE ARE PEOPLE ARE BEING ARE COMING UP THE BACK ROAD UP, UP. DJ HUDSON YES. AND THEY'RE PULLING ALL THE WAY UP. MY PARENTS. YES. PEOPLE WHO DRIVE CARS, NOT THE SIX YEAR OLDS. IT'S I MEAN, IT MAY NOT BE PARENTS, IT MAY BE COACHES.

IT COULD BE COACHES. WELL, THERE WAS A WHAT FIRST YEAR I HAD TO REMOVE PEOPLE FROM PARKING OUT THERE. WE'LL GET THOSE GATES BACK. THEY SHOULD BE LOCKED EVERY EVENING. I KNOW THEY THEY TRAVEL THROUGH. WE GOT GOLF CARTS AND STUFF. SO THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO NAVIGATE THAT BETTER. SO I'VE HAD TO REMOVE I'VE REMOVED PEOPLE BEFORE. WE'LL WE'LL WE'LL GET WE'LL GET THAT. THANK YOU. YES. IT'S YOU'LL GET SOME PEOPLE WANT THEM OPEN BECAUSE IT'S

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[7. An ordinance sunsetting the benefit granted to certain elected officials and amending ordinances 840, 1014, 2001, 2236 and 2530 (READ 2nd time as amended at April meeting) (Council Member Brooks) ]

IF THE CITY COUNCIL OF 1988, NEARLY 40 YEARS AGO, BELIEVED THIS, THIS WAS A WELL DESERVED BENEFIT. I DO NOT I DO NOT SEE HOW THE CITY COUNCIL OF 2026 SUDDENLY DISAGREES. THIS BENEFIT IS NOT JUST SYMBOLIC RIGHT NOW. IT COST APPROXIMATELY $46,000 A YEAR OUT OF A $34 MILLION GENERAL CITY BUDGET. THIS IS APPROXIMATELY 0.135% OF THE CITY'S TOTAL BUDGET. IT'S A SMALL, WELL DESERVED INVESTMENT INTO THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH OF OUR CITY GOVERNMENT. I ALSO BELIEVE THIS BENEFIT SERVES AN IMPORTANT PURPOSE IN RETAINING EXPERIENCED LEADERSHIP AND ENCOURAGING FUTURE LEADERSHIP. CONSIDER A COUNCIL MEMBER WHO'S ALREADY SERVED TWO TERMS OR EIGHT YEARS. THEY MAY BE ON THE FENCE AS TO RERUNNING. IT MAY BE TAKING TOO MUCH TIME AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILY. THEY MAY BE WEIGHING THE SACRIFICES THAT COME WITH SERVING ANOTHER FOUR YEARS TIME AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILY, TIME AWAY FROM THEIR CHILDREN'S BALL GAMES, ETC. THIS BENEFIT MAY ENCOURAGE THEM TO RUN A THIRD TERM, KNOWING THAT AFTER 12 YEARS OF SERVICE AND REACHING THE AGE OF 55, THEY WOULD QUALIFY FOR THIS RETIREMENT BENEFIT THAT COULD ABSOLUTELY INCENTIVIZE THAT PERSON TO CONTINUE SERVING.

THAT MEANS OUR CITY KEEPS EXPERIENCED, KNOWLEDGEABLE LEADERSHIP AND LEADERS WHO UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF OUR RESIDENTS AND THE OPERATIONS OF OUR CITY GOVERNMENT. LIKEWISE, THIS BENEFIT CAN ENCOURAGE A YOUNGER GENERATION TO STEP INTO LEADERSHIP ROLES, KNOWING THERE IS A LONG TERM VALUE PLACED ON THEIR SERVICE AND SACRIFICE. I'M ALMOST DONE BECAUSE SERVING OUR CITY IS FAR MORE THAN SIMPLY SHOWING UP ON A MONDAY NIGHT. IT MEANS ANSWERING CALLS, EMAILS, CONCERNS FROM RESIDENTS. IT MEANS LISTENING TO PEOPLE WHEN THEY FEEL UNHEARD. IT MEANS ANSWERING FOR DECISIONS, SOMETIMES EVEN DECISIONS WE DON'T MAKE THIS EVENING CORRECT.

IT MEANS SEEING PEOPLE AT THE GROCERY STORE, AT THE BALLPARK, GETTING FACEBOOK MESSAGES, AND THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY EVERY SINGLE DAY. WE ARE THERE TO STAND UP FOR THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF SHERWOOD. WE ARE ACCESSIBLE, VISIBLE, AND ACCOUNTABLE TO THE PEOPLE WE SERVE. WE ARE THEIR VOICE. I RAN FOR CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE SENSE OF THINGS THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE. AND RESPECTFULLY, THIS DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. IF I VOTED THREE SHORT MONTHS AGO TO ADD

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THANK YOU. OKAY. THE REASON WHY THAT I CAME UP WITH THIS IS BECAUSE MY TWO COUNCIL LADIES TO THE LEFT WERE NOT IN FAVOR OF IT, AND THEY SPOKE OUT AGAINST THE WHOLE PROCEDURE WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THIS. AND THEY GAVE ME SOME VERY VALID REASONS BECAUSE THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T RUN FOR THE BENEFITS LIKE THAT. AND THE REASON THAT I. WAS FOR RAISING THE RATE OR THE AMOUNT OF PAY WAS NOT FOR MYSELF OR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE, BUT FOR THOSE WHO HAD SERVED FOR YEARS AND YEARS, LIKE BECKY VASSER, WHO SERVED FOR OVER 30 YEARS, WHO DESERVE TO GET SOMETHING THAT WAS MAKING, YOU KNOW, 100 AND SOMETHING DOLLARS A MONTH FOR HER. IT WASN'T A RETIREMENT BENEFIT. IT WAS BACK THEN. IT WAS FOR INSURANCE. THEY WERE GETTING CITY INSURANCE WHEN THEY GET OFF THE COUNT. AND SHE IT WASN'T HER, BUT IT WAS PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS BEFORE HER. THEY WERE GETTING MONEY FOR INSURANCE FROM THE CITY.

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN MAYOR HARMON FOUND OUT, OH NO. FROM THE MUNICIPAL LEAGUE. YOU CANNOT ENSURE THESE FORMER COUNCIL MEMBERS UNDER THE MUNICIPAL LEAGUE INSURANCE.

YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT. SO HE DECIDED THAT MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SPONSOR AN ORDINANCE TO GIVE THESE FORMER COUNCIL MEMBERS, RETIRED COUNCIL MEMBERS, $100 OR $125 A MONTH TO HELP PAY FOR THEIR INSURANCE, WHICH BACK THEN WAS A PRETTY GOOD DEAL BECAUSE YOU COULD GET INSURANCE, WE ALL KNOW, AND YOU BEING AN INSURANCE INDUSTRY, OBVIOUSLY KNOW YOU CAN'T GET INSURANCE FOR $125 A MONTH AND 350, WHICH IS WHAT IT IS NOW. YOU SURE CAN'T GET INSURANCE FOR $350. PROBABLY EITHER, I DON'T KNOW, I CAN'T, I KNOW I CAN'T, I HAD TO GO ON COBRA AND I COULDN'T GET IT FOR THAT. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT THAT'S ABOUT. IF IF EVERYONE'S NOT INTERESTED IN I MEAN, I, WHEN I RAN FOR OFFICE, I HAD NO CLUE THIS BENEFIT EVEN EXISTED. I WAS NOT I RAN FOR OFFICE TO HELP THE PEOPLE IN SHERWOOD. I LOVE PUBLIC SERVICE.

I WAS IN THE JAYCEES BEFOREHAND. I LOVED DOING VOLUNTEERING. IT WAS NOTHING ABOUT GETTING ANY EXTRA BENEFIT. I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IF I'D BE AROUND PAST MY BACK THEN. IT WAS ONLY A TWO YEAR TERM, SO I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IF I'D MAKE IT PAST MY FIRST TWO YEARS. I HAD NO CLUE.

SO IT WASN'T ANYTHING ABOUT BEING HERE THIS LONG AND GETTING ANY KIND OF BENEFITS AFTERWARD. SO, AND IT'S NOT TO ME EITHER. SO WHENEVER I RAN, I DIDN'T REALIZE THIS WAS A BENEFIT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL RUN FOR A SECOND TERM. AND I DEFINITELY DON'T KNOW IF I'LL RUN OR GET ELECTED FOR A THIRD TERM. BUT REGARDLESS OF ALL OF THAT, I DO WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IF A LEGISLATIVE BODY IN 1988 THOUGHT THAT WE WERE WORTH $125 A MONTH IN A BENEFIT, THEN I FEEL LIKE THE LEGISLATIVE BODY OF 2026 SHOULD STAND. BESIDE THAT, INFLATION HAS ABSOLUTELY SUPPORTED THE FACT THAT IT'S $350 A MONTH NOW. AND IF YOU'RE FIGHTING FOR BECKY VASSER AND THE SERVICE THAT SHE GAVE TO OUR COMMUNITY, WHY NOT FIGHT FOR THE FUTURE? BECKY VASSER AND THE SERVICE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE TO THE COMMUNITY? THAT'S WHERE I STAND. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? I APPRECIATE MONICA'S COMMENTS. I'M IN FAVOR OF LEAVING THE BENEFIT AS IT IS. I AGREE WITH YOU THOUGH, MARINA, I YOU DIDN'T RUN AND I CERTAINLY DIDN'T RUN. I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THIS BENEFIT. BUT THIS SITTING HERE ON MONDAY NIGHTS IS THE EASY PART OF THIS JOB. AND SO AFTER YOU SIT HERE FOR A WHILE, IT DOESN'T HURT MY FEELINGS ONE BIT. FOR PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN HERE FOR MANY YEARS TO RECEIVE THIS. I MEAN, AT THAT POINT, I THINK THEY'VE EARNED IT. THEY'VE EARNED SERVING THEIR COMMUNITY. SO I LIKE THIS. I THINK IF YOU SERVE 12 YEARS, YOU'RE WELCOME TO IT. THAT'S THAT'S MY PERSONAL THOUGHT. OKAY. WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU DID. DO YOU HAVE. THANK YOU. WELL, I WAS

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THAT'S NOT A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT FOR A PART TIME POSITION. IS THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY. I MEAN, I THERE'S JUST NOT A WAY WHERE I FEEL LIKE IT'S AN APPROPRIATE OPTIC AS FAR AS WHAT IT IS AND HOW IT IS, YOU KNOW, WITH US NOT KNOWING IT'S HERE, I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE SOMEONE LOOK AT IT AND GO, OH, THERE'S AN EXTRA 350. OKAY, I'LL RUN FOR ANOTHER TERM. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I WOULD THINK ABOUT AS A REASON TO SERVE THE CITY IS THE REASON. AND SO THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT'S HOW I FEEL, WHY I FEEL THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT IT. I WANT TO I WANT TO SAY, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. THAT WAS YOU DID PUT YOU PUT YOUR RESEARCH INTO THAT. AND I, I HAVE TO SAY, I DO AGREE WITH YOU. IF THEY THOUGHT IT WAS APPROPRIATE BACK THEN, AND LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S THIS MUCH OF OUR BUDGET, WHO ARE WE NOW TO, TO COME BACK AND SAY THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO TAKE THAT AWAY? AND TO YOUR POINT, I AGREE. IF WE WE JUST VOTED TO RAISE IT. SO HOW CAN WE NOW LOOK BACK AND SAY, WELL, I KNOW WE JUST RAISED IT, BUT NOW WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT AWAY FOR, FOR THE FUTURE. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. AND I THINK I DO AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAID THERE. I'LL SAY THIS ONE IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT WAS OPPOSING OF THIS BACK IN JANUARY. MY OPPOSITION WAS FOR THE RAISE. I THOUGHT, I THINK I MADE THAT VERY CLEAR AND ALSO THE VERBIAGE OF HOW IT WAS BEING PRESENTED THAT WAS INITIALLY DONE AS A HEALTH BENEFIT. IT GOT CHANGED TO RETIREMENT, AND THE RETIREMENT PORTION OF THE RETIREMENT WORD TO ME REALLY DIDN'T SIT WELL, BECAUSE WE DO NOT RETIRE OUT OF THESE POSITIONS. YOU EITHER ELECT NOT TO RUN OR YOU ARE NOT REELECTED. THAT THOSE WERE MY BIG THINGS WAS NOT DOING THE RAISE AT THIS TIME AND MAKING SURE THAT WHAT THIS WAS INTENDED TO BE STAYS WHAT IT WAS INTENDED TO BE. MONICA, I APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH. MISS BROOKS AND I HAVE ALREADY HAD THIS CONVERSATION, BUT I AGREE, WE'VE ALREADY LITIGATED. I DON'T KNOW IF LITIGATE IS THE RIGHT WORD. WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION. IT WAS A HEAVY DISCUSSION AT THE FIRST OF THE YEAR. SO COMING BACK NOW, WHILE I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, I FEEL LIKE THIS KIND OF DEFEATS EVERYTHING THAT WE ALREADY DID BEFORE THE FIRST OF THE YEAR. SO I WILL NOT BE VOTING TO SUNSET THIS. ONE OF THE THINGS I DO WANT TO MAKE YOU GUYS AWARE OF, THOUGH, WITH THIS IS FOR CHARLOTTE'S POSITION FOR CITY CLERK, CITY ATTORNEY, AND FOR THE MAYOR. OUR RETIREMENTS ARE SET BY THE STATE, AND THIS IS ON TOP OF WHICH I DIDN'T REALIZE ANY OF THIS EITHER UNTIL THE BIG. UNTIL ALL THIS CAME TO LIGHT.

AND THEN THE PHONE CALLS OF, HEY, I SHOULD BE GETTING THAT CHECK TOO, AND I SHOULD BE GETTING THIS. SO JUST KNOW THAT THIS DOESN'T JUST INCLUDE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. THIS INCLUDES CITY CLERK, CITY ATTORNEY, AND MAYOR. AND SO. YOU GUYS CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO IN TERMS OF THAT PIECE. BUT I KNOW THAT THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN MARINA. ORIGINAL COUNCIL MEMBER BROOKS I'M SORRY, WHEN SHE ORIGINALLY WAS LOOKING INTO THIS, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT CHANGING BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, AS IT STATES, IT IS JUST ELECTED OFFICIALS. I DON'T REALLY I MEAN, YOU ALREADY HAVE STATE RETIREMENTS FOR THESE THREE POSITIONS. SO NO, NO OFFENSE, BUT I, I FEEL THAT YOU ALL MAY WANT TO AT LEAST THINK ABOUT.

OF COURSE, IT'S COMPLETELY UP TO YOU ALL, BUT AMENDING IT, IF YOU WANT TO KEEP IT FOR CITY COUNCIL, THEN. KEEP IT FOR CITY COUNCIL. ANY. VESTED LIKE THAT KIND OF TAKE THE WATER. RIGHT? RIGHT. AND SO IT WOULD BE GOING FORWARD. ANYBODY WHO'S ALREADY SAME THING AS IT WAS GOING TO BE FOR YOU GUYS, ANYBODY THAT'S CURRENTLY IT DOESN'T AFFECT IT WOULD BE FOR FUTURE. AND I KNOW

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OKAY. I LOVE YOU, GIRL. BROOKS. I WADE. NO. BRODERICK. NO. MCCULLOUGH. I. TOWNSEND. NO.

WILLIAMS. NO. THOMAS. NO. THE MOTION FAILS SIX. NO AND TWO. YES. OKAY. OKAY. MOVING ON TO

[8. A resolution authorizing execution of a memorandum of understanding between the City of Sherwood Arkansas and the City of Jacksonville Arkansas for the consolidation of 911 communication services (Mayor Heye-Townsell) ]

YEAH. WE STILL THINK YOU'RE SMART. YEAH, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THEIR TOTAL BUDGET. I CAN TELL YOU THIS. IT'S GOING TO BE LESS THAN WHAT WE'RE PAYING NOW. OKAY. SO IT'LL BE I'M QUOTING YOU. YEAH. IT IT, IT'S GOING TO BE THE, THE. SO WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS OUR EMPLOYEES WILL BECOME JACKSONVILLE EMPLOYEES. SO THEY WILL GO UNDER THEIR RETIREMENT SYSTEM. YEP. THEY'LL GO UNDER. BUT THE IT IS IT IS GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN WHAT WE WERE GOING TO BE PAYING AT NORTH LITTLE ROCK. SO, CHIEF, YOU JUST SAID THEY'LL GO UNDER THEIR RETIREMENT SYSTEM AND ALL THAT. WILL IT AFFECT WILL IT WOULD AFFECT THEIR RETIREMENT. LIKE, IS IT WOULD IT LIKE, WOULD IT BE LIKE THEY WERE STILL AT SHERWOOD? WOULD THEY START DIVESTING, START OVER OR ANY OF THAT KIND OF STUFF? NO,

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WADE. I. BRODERICK. MCCULLOUGH. I. TOWNSEND. I. WILLIAMS. I. THOMAS. THE. MOTION PASSES.

UNANIMOUSLY. A RESOLUTION. OH. I'M SORRY. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. MAYOR. BEFORE YOU GO TO THE

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PUT IT IN THE FORM OF AN EMAIL SO WE CAN TRACK IT, THAT THAT STRUCTURE WILL BE PLACED ON THIS LIST. AND THEN BETWEEN CODE ENFORCEMENT AND PAUL BROWN AND JOSH CLAY WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, OUR FIRE MARSHAL, WE WILL GO OUT AND WE WILL INSPECT THOSE PROPERTIES. AND THEN AND WE WILL LOOK TO SEE WHETHER THAT NEEDS TO GO INTO THE CONDEMNATION PROCESS OR IF IT NEEDS TO GO INTO THE COURT PROCESS. SO THE OF COURSE, WE'LL WORK WITH MR. COBB ON BRINGING THOSE TO YOU WHEN IT COMES TO THAT. BUT IF YOU WILL, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE MECHANISM WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO GIVE US THAT INFORMATION SO WE CAN PLACE THEM ON THERE. AND THEN QUARTERLY, WE'LL HAVE CALVIN AND WAYNE WILL COME IN AND THEY WILL UPDATE Y'ALL ON THE TOP FIVE STRUCTURES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE LIST, BUT THEY'LL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE TOP FIVE ON WHERE THOSE STAND. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? YES. OKAY. SO TWO OF THESE THAT MISS WILLIAMS AND I WENT AND LOOKED AT TODAY WERE BURNED OUT HOUSES. AND THOSE ONE OF THOSE HAS BEEN BURNT OUT FOR QUITE A WHILE AND IT'S IN COURT. IS THAT THE ONE ON KOHLER COLTER COLTER. IF IT'S ALREADY IN COURT THEN IT'S GOT TO REMAIN IN COURT. AND THAT ONE IS IN COURT. THAT ONE'S IN COURT. BUT THE OTHER ONE ON TRAMMELL IS BURNED AND IT'S JUST BEEN RED TAGGED. SO IT'S NOT IN COURT IF IT'S RED TAGGED AND NOT IN COURT, WHAT IS THE PROCESS ON THAT ONE, DO YOU KNOW? WELL, THE PROCESS IS THEY'LL GO IN AND IF IT'S STRUCTURALLY UNSAFE, THEN IT'LL BE MOVED TO THE TOP OF THAT LIST AND IT'LL BE COMING BEFORE YOU. THE CHIMNEY IS ABOUT THE ONLY THING LEFT AT THAT. THAT'S THE ONE ON THE BOTTOM. YEAH. AND IT'S LIKE, AND, AND THERE'S NEIGHBORS AROUND THEM. IT'S

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[9. A resolution authorizing the submission of applications for various grants; and for other purposes (Mayor Heye-Townsell, Council Members Townsend and Thomas) ]

THAT WOULD PUT THE CITY'S OBLIGATION RIGHT AT 125. I'LL NOTE TO THAT. GENERALLY, ARDOT AWARDS THESE GRANTS IN DECEMBER OF EACH YEAR AND THEN SENDS A CONTRACT TO THE CITY IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE FOLLOWING YEAR. SO THESE WOULD BE $2,027 OBLIGATED FOR THIS MATCHING AMOUNT IF YOU CHOOSE TO, TO PURSUE IT. BUT IT DOES REQUIRE FOR ARDOT TO EVEN CONSIDER THE GRANT. THEY REQUIRE THAT THE CITY RESOLVE TO PROVIDE THE MATCHING AMOUNT TO MAKE THAT COMMITMENT IF AWARDED, AND THESE ARE DIFFICULT GRANTS IN WHICH TO GET. SO THERE IS BY NO MEANS A GUARANTEE THAT WE WILL WILL GET THIS. THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO THEN APPLY THROUGH METROPLAN, WHICH TYPICALLY. THOSE ARE EASIER TO GET THAN THE. BECAUSE YOU'RE YOU'RE COMPETING AGAINST THE WHOLE STATE. YEAH. IT'S AT THAT POINT IT'S WORTH TRYING. YEAH.

TO THAT POINT, MAYOR, IF IT'S ALL RIGHT, I'LL ADD THAT THERE IS THE OPTION TO GET TAP MONEY

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OUR NEXT CONTESTANT. SO BASICALLY WHAT THIS IS METROPLAN APPLIED FOR SOME FEDERAL MONIES AND THEY WERE AWARDED. SO THESE THIS IS NOT LIKE A TAP GRANT AND SO FORTH, WHERE IT'S A YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR TYPE OF A PROGRAM. THIS IS, YOU KNOW, AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE ARE TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WITH THIS. AND SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO KIND OF SPEAK TO. YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MAYOR. HELLO, COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE LOOKING TO APPLY FOR THE CARBON REDUCTION PROGRAM GRANT THROUGH METROPLAN. AND THIS WOULD BE TO CONTINUE THE CENTRAL ARKANSAS REGIONAL GREENWAY AND CONNECT THE PICKTHORN. IT'S PICKTHORN PARK AND I BELIEVE WE CALL IT WOODLAND TRAIL OR HINSON TRAIL, ALL THE WAY TO POWERLINE TRAIL NEAR CLINTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. AND THIS IS KIND OF CLOSING THE GAP, THOSE TWO OF WHICH ARE FURTHER ALONG IN GRANT FUNDING AND DESIGN. SO SO IT'S IT'S A LITTLE COMPLICATED BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THERE IS A WETLAND AREA THAT'S INVOLVED. AND SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE TRIED TO GET, YOU KNOW, A WALKING BRIDGE, FOR EXAMPLE, TO GO OVER THE WOODRUFF CREEK TO CONNECT PICKTHORN IN THE ROYAL MANOR SUBDIVISION TO THE SOUTH. WELL, WE CAN'T SCORE ENOUGH POINTS IN ORDER TO GET THAT BECAUSE THIS PART OF THE TRAIL HAS NOT BEEN ESTABLISHED YET.

IN ORDER FOR THIS TO BE ESTABLISHED, YOU DO HAVE TO HAVE ENGINEERING AND YOU HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF THE ENGINEERING ALREADY ESTABLISHED. AND SO I KNOW THAT COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS ALWAYS WANTS TO KNOW, AND RIGHTFULLY SO. WHAT IS OUR PART? SO IT LOOKS LIKE THE ANTICIPATED COST FOR THIS IS 198,000. OUR PART WOULD BE 39,600. AND I THINK ANYTIME THAT WE CAN UTILIZE MONIES AT $0.20 ON THE DOLLAR, BECAUSE THIS IS A SECTION THAT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT. SO YEAH, TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS TO HOLLADAY TO PICKTHORN PARK. THIS IS NOT CONSTRUCTION MONEY. THIS IS PRELIMINARY DESIGN, SURVEYING AND ENVIRONMENTAL WORK, JUST TO GET LINES ON THE PAPER, REALLY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THIS IS GOING TO BE. BUT ONCE YOU DO, ONCE YOU'RE IN THAT PROCESS AND GRANT MONIES ARE INVOLVED, THEN YOU'RE MORE LIKELY TO GET MORE GRANT MONEY FOR IT, AND THEN CONSTRUCTION MONEY FOR IT AND SO FORTH. SO WHAT KIND OF DOLLAR AMOUNT WOULD THE CONSTRUCTION BE LATER? WE DON'T KNOW. WE DON'T KNOW AT THIS TIME. I MEAN, BALLPARK 6 MILLION, 1 MILLION, 500,000, LIKE BECAUSE WE'RE BEING ASKED TO SPEND 4000 AT MOST. BUT IF WE'RE SPENDING 4000 FOR A $10 MILLION CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, THAT EVEN WE GET 80%. YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN? IT'S HARD TO WE'RE COMMITTING FUNDS. BUT FOR WHAT? WHAT END LATER. SO WE HAD WE HAD PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES AT ANOTHER TIME. BUT IT'S I MEAN, THE DOLLAR CHANGES SO MUCH OVER TIME THAT IT'S JUST TOO DIFFICULT. AND IT GETS TO LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, CAN WE UTILIZE SOME OF THE LAND THAT'S ALREADY ELEVATED AT THE SOUTH PLANT AND LIKE LOCATION OF BRIDGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? IT'S LIKE, WELL, WE NEED A BRIDGE DOUBLE THE LENGTH THAN WE THOUGHT WE WOULD BECAUSE WE CAN'T CROSS HERE. WE HAVE TO CROSS THERE. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS FOR. THIS IS FOR FIGURING OUT WHERE THINGS GO. OKAY. AND SO FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN

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BUT THEY WON'T DO THAT BECAUSE OF THE STUFF THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO IT, WHICH IS THIS ENVIRONMENTAL PIECE. SO IT'S AND THEN IF YOU'VE GOT IT, IN MY OPINION, THIS IS JUST ONE PERSON WHO IS NOT A SCIENTIST, BUT I CAN DO THE MATH. IF YOU'VE GOT THE ENVIRONMENTAL PIECE, WHICH WOULD BACK UP, THEN US, WE COULD GET THE BRIDGE AND GET THE WALKING BRIDGE, WHICH WOULD TAKE US THEN INTO THE HENSON TRAIL PARK AND HAVE IT THE WHOLE THING. WE HAD BEEN TRYING TO START FROM HENSON TRAIL PARK THERE, WHICH PEOPLE SEE THE MOST OFTEN AND THEN MOVE FORWARD. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S IT'S FLIPPED. I WAS GOING TO SAY WHAT GRANDMA SAID, BUT I CAN'T SAY THAT WE'VE GOT ENGINEERING MONEY FOR THE THE HENSON TRAIL TO DO TWO THINGS.

TWO THINGS CAN WORK ON AT THE. MULTIPLE THINGS CAN WORK ON THE SAME TIME. BUT IN TERMS OF. YOU CANNOT SAFELY GET ACROSS TO EVEN GET ONTO THE THE TRAIL RIGHT NOW BECAUSE YOU'RE LIKE SKIMMING ALONG A WALL IF YOU'VE GOT CARS COMING. SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET A CUT OFF NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE TRAIL. BUT WE ALSO NEED TO ESTABLISH HOW IT'S GOING TO CONNECT TO HOLLYWOOD, WHICH IS WHERE CLINTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS. AND YOU CAN SEE IF YOU IF YOU'RE ON THAT BRIDGE, YOU WALK TO THE PAVILION, YOU CAN SEE CLINTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THE BACK, AND IT'S RIGHT THERE. WOULD THIS ALSO BE 2027 BUDGET MONEY? MOST I BELIEVE SO, YES.

I BELIEVE IT'S 2027 FISCAL YEAR. OKAY. AND YOU MENTIONED PRELIMINARY NUMBERS AND MY HUSBAND'S A BUILDER. SO I UNDERSTAND MORE THAN ANYBODY. YOU START HERE AND THEN SOMEBODY BRINGS YOU A HOUSE WITH SIX BACK PORCHES AND, YOU KNOW, 20 FOOT CEILINGS THAT ARE ALL GLASS WINDOWS. SO I GET THAT THERE'S A BIG LIKE SPAN, AND WE WON'T HOLD YOUR FEET TO THE FIRE AND SAY ON THAT MEETING, YOU SAID, BUT FOR A LIKE JUST TO GIVE US A BALLPARK IDEA, LIKE WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER BRODERICK WAS SAYING, WHAT WAS THAT PRELIMINARY NUMBER? CAN I GO FIND THAT ON MY LAPTOP AND GET BACK TO YOU ON IT? OKAY. IT IT REALLY IS. HONESTLY, IT'S IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT PART OF IT'S AN ASPHALT TRAIL, WHICH THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE ALL THAT EXPENSIVE, BUT THEN WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH UNTIL WE DO THE ENVIRONMENTAL, YOU KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO NEED LIKE AN ELEVATED BRIDGE PART? ARE WE WETLAND OUT THERE THAT IT'S LIKE, WHERE IS IT GOING TO BE MORE CULVERTS? WE FIGURE THAT OUT UNTIL YOU DO THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND THE SURVEYING. SO REALLY IT'S LIKE YOU COULD BE HERE AND HERE AND YOU CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT TO GET YOUR FOOT IN THE DOOR. NO VISIT NEXT WEEK. I MEAN NEXT MONTH. NO, IT'S IT'S DUE. IN FACT, IT'S DUE. WE WILL HAVE TO SIGN THIS AND SEND IT BECAUSE OUR DOC CAME BACK TO US AND SAID THAT THIS HAS TO WE HAVE TO INCLUDE THIS OR THEY HAVE TO PULL OUR GRANT. OKAY, HANG ON A SECOND. WHAT WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THAT THIS GRANT APPLICATION IS DEADLINES IN 15 DAYS. NO, THAT WAS THE OTHER ONE. THAT WAS THE OTHER ONE. NOT THIS ONE. OKAY. NO, THIS ONE IS ALREADY. THEY'RE HOLDING IT FOR US, OKAY? BECAUSE THEY SAID THEY CAME BACK AND SAID, HEY, WE WANT THIS RESOLUTION, I BELIEVE. YEAH. OKAY. WELL, I JUST IT'S FRUSTRATING ON OUR END. I KNOW, I'M SORRY. I'VE GOT THOSE TWO THINGS MIXED UP. IT IS THIS ONE IS DUE IN 15 DAYS. I'M SO SORRY I MISSPOKE. DAYS IS ALL I KNOW. YES, BUT WE PROBABLY SHOULD TALK ABOUT IT.

LAST MONTH IS MY POINT. SO THAT IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS. BECAUSE THAT'S FAIR. IF WE HAVE A RESOLUTION. SO IT'S A ONE MONTH. IT'S NOT A IT'S A NOT A TWO MONTH PROCESS. BUT TO BE FAIR, FINDLAY THOUGHT THAT FINDLAY THOUGHT THAT THE MEETING WAS NEXT WEEK. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF WE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HE WANTS TO GO CHECK THE LAPTOP. WELL, NO, WE NEED WE GOT TO HAVE AN ANSWER TONIGHT THAT PUTS COUNCIL IN A DIFFICULT SITUATION, IS MY POINT. I'M ALWAYS GOING TO BE A FAN OF $0.20 ON THE DOLLAR. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT WE WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF GRANT MONEY WHEN WE CAN ALSO UNDERSTAND COUNCIL MEMBER BRODERICK'S CONCERN OF WE'RE COMMITTING $40,000 OR, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER JUST TO DO WHAT'S THE TERMINOLOGY YOU USE? ENGINEERING, PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING. THANK YOU.

PRELIMINARY. SO IN AN EFFORT FOR US TO DO GOOD BY THE CITY AND MAXIMIZE TAXPAYER DOLLARS, OR AT LEAST KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING INTO, I THINK IN THE FUTURE, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE STARTING AT THIS NUMBER AND IT COULD BE BETWEEN 2 MILLION AND 4 MILLION DEPENDING ON X, Y, Z. SO I THINK BRINGING THAT TO THE COUNCIL SO WE CAN WEIGH WE'RE INVESTING $40,000 FOR AN N NUMBER THAT COULD BE BETWEEN. THIS RANGE WOULD BE BENEFICIAL.

SURE. YES. THANK YOU. WANT I GO NOW? PULL IT UP. YEAH. IT'S. AND WE WE WILL HAVE TO PAY FULL

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CORRECT? YEAH. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND. WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCCULLOUGH. ARE YOU READY FOR ROLL CALL? ROLL CALL? PLEASE TREAT I BROOKS I WADE I BRODERICK NO. MCCULLOUGH I. TOWNSEND. NO. WILLIAMS I.

THOMAS. NO. 3553. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OLD BUSINESS I HAVE TWO ANNOUNCEMENTS IN OLD

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BUT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S GOING TO TURN DOWN 1 TO $2000 SCHOLARSHIPS. AND BECAUSE EVERY LITTLE BIT ADDS UP AS MUCH EXPENSIVE. SO I JUST WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU AND RECOGNIZE THAT. AND WE HAVE A THANK YOU LETTER FROM THE COUNCIL TO THE COUNCIL FROM TURNER CHOATE. IT SAID, DEAR SHERWOOD CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT AND RECOGNITION TO ME AND MY FELLOW STUDENTS. IT HAS BEEN A GREAT HONOR AND I CANNOT EXPRESS HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE THIS TO YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART. THANK YOU AND HAVE A NICE DAY.

TURNER CHOATE. HE WAS ONE OF THE YOUNG PERSONS THAT WAS RECOGNIZED AT CITY COUNCIL MEETING. YES, LAST MONTH HE WAS THE ONE WHO WAS THE ONE WHO SPOKE AND DID THE PRESENTATION.

YES. ABOUT IT. AND JUST TO CLARIFY. IN THE PAST, JIM DAVIS EXPLAINED TO ME THAT ONCE UPON A TIME THE COUNCIL VOTED TO GIVE $500 TO GO TOWARDS THE FOOTBALL TEAM GETTING STATE RINGS. AND THAT'S WHEN IT WAS DISCOVERED, BECAUSE WE GOT DINGED BY LEGISLATIVE AUDIT

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AND I KNOW THAT WHEN I SPOKE TO THEM, I THINK THAT THEY WERE GOING TO ANSWER QUESTIONS BY SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD IN TERMS OF LIKE WHAT THEY LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEIR OUTLOOK WAS GOING TO BE FOR THE MILLAGE AND STUFF FOR LONG TERM. AND I KNOW THAT THEY WERE DEFINITELY PLANNING ON COMING BACK AT, AT BUDGET TIME AND, AND DOING A PRESENTATION. THAT WAS NOT MY UNDERSTANDING, BUT I COULD BE WRONG. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT AT THIS TIME? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS DISCUSSED, I DON'T KNOW. I KNOW IN OUR MEETING WHEN WE WENT THROUGH IT, WAS THE I DON'T KNOW, THE PROPER WORD. SO Y'ALL HELP ME HERE A SECOND. THE THE ALARM ALARM. THANK YOU. THAT THAT THEY ARE THAT THEY'RE CHARGED THE RESIDENTS THAT THE TAX I GUESS THAT GOES TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THE PART FOR THE CITY OF SHERWOOD IS ONE AMOUNT. AND THERE IS A CONSIDERABLY LESS OR A LITTLE LESS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. DEPENDING UPON WHERE YOU LIVE. OKAY. THAT. SO ONE OF THE THINGS FOR THEM TO GENERATE SOME MORE MONEY WOULD BE FOR WHATEVER PROCESS THEY NEED TO GO THROUGH TO HAVE THAT CHANGED TO LEVEL EYES. YES. BUT HAVING A GRANDSON WHO'S A FIREMAN, I WOULD, I, I MEAN, THAT EXISTING FACILITY THAT THEY'RE IN RIGHT NOW IS, IS THAT I'M VERY PROUD THAT THEY'RE HAVING THE NEW ONE BUILT BECAUSE IT TO EVEN LIVE FOR 48 HOURS IN THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE CLAUSTROPHOBIC. THERE'S, THERE'S WASN'T A WINDOW AT ALL.

I MEAN, EVERY ROOM HAS A WINDOW NOW AND THIS NEW BUILDING. SO IT WOULD BE THE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVE THE CITY NEEDS TO HAVE THAT FACILITY IMPROVED GREATLY. SO I MY HEART LEANS THAT WAY. BUT I THINK EVERYBODY FEELS THAT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO DO SOMETHING. AND I THINK THAT THAT WHEN I SPOKE TO THEM AFTER THE FACT, I THINK THAT WAS THE MAIN THING THAT THEY NEEDED IN TERMS OF THE THE TECH. THE TAKEAWAY WAS THAT THERE WOULD BE SOMETHING. YES. YEAH.

THAT WAS GOING TO SAY THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER. THEY WERE THEY WERE GOING TO PUT SOME BETTER NUMBERS TOGETHER, BRING IT TO US. BUT I THINK EVERYBODY IN GENERAL, WE WERE WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING TO HELP THEM. YES. AT BUDGET TIME. IT'S JUST WE JUST CAN'T DO IT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR. SO I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE LEFT IT. AND THEY WERE THEY IT SEEMED TO BE GOOD WITH THAT. SO YEAH. BUT I HOPE THEY WILL ALSO TAKE THAT INITIATIVE TO RAISE THEIR ALARM.

I THINK THEY ALREADY DO IT ALL AT ONCE. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, THOUGH, JUST LIKE THE COUNCIL, SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON MAYBE A PREVIOUS COUNCIL, THINGS THAT WERE SET IN MOTION 20 YEARS AGO. SO I DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY OF THEIR BOARD AND HOW LONG THOSE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE BEEN THERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE SITTING THERE TODAY, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN RAISED FOR MANY YEARS OVER TIME. AND SO NOW THIS IS THE BOAT THAT THEY'RE IN. AND I DON'T THINK. TOTALLY AGREE. THE COUNCIL GIVING OR NOT GIVING THE SAME AMOUNT THAT WE GAVE TO THE OTHER DISTRICT SHOULD BE DEPENDENT UPON THEIR AD VALOREM TAX AND WHAT RATE THEY'RE IN, ESPECIALLY NOW THEY'RE THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF INCHING THAT UP. BUT NONE OF US WOULD WANT OUR PROPERTY TAXES TO DOUBLE. YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT HAVING TO DOUBLE, BUT I THINK IT WAS THE FAIRNESS AND THAT IF YOU'VE GOT ALL THIS SECTION OF THE CITY AND THEY'RE PAYING THIS AMOUNT, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER SECTION OF THE CITY THAT'S PAYING A LOWER AMOUNT, AND THEN YOU'RE TAKING MONEY OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. THAT'S EVERYONE'S THAT'S WHERE I THINK THE DISCREPANCY KIND OF CAME FROM. AND THAT THAT DOESN'T SEEM FAIR, THAT TWO THIRDS OF THE CITY OR HOWEVER MUCH WOULD BE PAYING, YOU KNOW, QUITE A BIT MORE THAN THE SECTION THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY SERVING. SO IT

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[12. Announcement(s)]

WE'RE DOING A FOOD DRIVE AT THORNHILL AND FAIRWAY POOLS, SO THERE IS FREE ENTRY WITH A NONPERISHABLE FOOD ITEM. JUNE 13TH. WE DO. OUR EDUCATORS APPRECIATE APPRECIATION. I CAN'T SPEAK TODAY DAY, WHICH IS FREE POOL ENTRY WITH A VALID SCHOOL ID. AND THEN JUNE 18TH, WE'VE GOT OUR THIRD THURSDAY IN THE PARK CONCERT WITH COPPER FLATS FROM 7 TO 9 P.M. ONCE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE VENDOR FEST RIDES, ETC. JUNE 19TH WE CITY OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED FOR THE JUNETEENTH HOLIDAY. GARBAGE PICKUP WILL BE ON MONDAY, JUNE 22ND AND RECYCLING WILL RUN ONE DAY LATE. I KNOW THAT'S ALWAYS CONFUSING AND THAT APP, WE ALWAYS DO SEND STUFF OUT ABOUT THE TRASH. SO ON JUNE 20TH, WE'VE GOT MOVIE NIGHT AT THORNHILL POOL. IT'S GOING TO BE MINECRAFT, NOT RUDY. AND ON JUNE 21ST WILL BE FATHER'S DAY TO TO KUMI WILL BE OPENING ONE WEEK FROM TUESDAY. SO THAT'S THE RESTAURANT THAT WENT INTO ON THE BORDER. OH GOSH. TO KUMI, I BELIEVE THE RESTAURANT GOING IN ON THE BORDER, WHATEVER IT. HOWEVER, I

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